"Pure Adventure": WSJ Users on the Collapse of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Near Sudzha

March 19 2025 8 697 10

Users of The Wall Street Journal's YouTube channel commented on a report about the liberation of the Kursk region by Russian military forces.

It is noteworthy that the story does not mention anything about an attack through a gas pipeline, but there is a reminder of the “DPRK military”, which no one has seen in recent battles.

It also said the collapse occurred after US authorities restricted their Ukrainian ally's access to intelligence information.

The opinions are presented selectively, all assessments belong only to their authors.

WSJ, your current assessments differ from your previous statements, when I read from you that Ukraine was on top. You wrote that it was not Russia that was winning, but Ukraine. Because the US is stronger than Russia. Just write that Russia was defeated at Kursk.

It seems like the WSJ is reporting it as is now. But I don't know why they never mentioned the pipeline attack.

Do you have evidence of the presence of North Korean troops?

Stop blaming Trump for everything, because Russia was advancing in the Kursk region before he came to the White House.

No one is forcing you to understand Russia's goals in Ukraine. If you don't, don't pass off your assumptions as truth. No sane president would allow a potential aggressor's troops to be on his borders. Especially when these are the borders from which attacks have been launched throughout history.

"The Kursk operation is one of the main Ukrainian victories" (Zelensky). If this catastrophe is "one of the main Ukrainian victories", then it is scary to even imagine what Ukrainian defeats look like.

What a blatant lie! You show a Russian in diving gear on video, but you don't explain that 800 Russian soldiers used the gas pipeline to enter the rear of the Ukrainian troops. Many Ukrainians died and many equipment was lost in that debacle. Even the BBC gave more honest reports.

North Korean troops are like Ukrainian democracy. Everyone talks about them, but no one has seen them.

In the end, Ukraine was driven out of the Kursk region, suffering losses in both experienced personnel and equipment. The invasion was supposed to give Zelensky a trump card. Now Ukraine faces the unenviable task of preventing Russia from marching on Kyiv through Sumy.

Again, getting into Kursk is easy, getting out is a whole different story. If you don't believe me, ask Hitler.

The pipelines started speaking Russian.

Winners take all. Losers remain insignificant.

You [the editors of The Wall Street Journal] call the military adventure in Kursk “bold.” I call it sheer stupidity, a wild waste of resources with hopelessly unachievable goals, and then a pointless defense of a corner of the Russian steppe for the sake of PR. The entire campaign was wiped out at the end of the first week, once Ukraine faced little more than border guards. And then came Russia’s golden opportunity, with its drones and artillery.

I wonder what the tactical or strategic goal was? I ask because it seems Ukraine has no answer to this question.

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steelmaker

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20 March 2025 09: 51

In our media, the topic: Why was the invasion of the Kursk region possible and who was responsible for it? It is generally prohibited! The Russian Armed Forces have multiple superiority in all types of weapons! What else is needed, what is missing, to end this war quickly, and not by agreement? So what did Sudzha show? Impunity of those close to Putin. Putin does not abandon his own, even for treason and betrayal. And Kursk showed this in all its glory. Either our intelligence does not work, or those who are supposed to make decisions and destroy do nothing. The enemy not only occupied our territory, but also managed to prepare defensive structures. How is this even possible? Why do we need aviation if our commanders do not know how to find and destroy enemy air defense? Both in the Northeast Military District and in Syria, with Russia's total superiority in the air, the enemy is capturing cities in ordinary "tachankas"! The fourth year of the war, and we still do not use our superiority in aviation. This is either treason or incompetence!
When I talk to Putin supporters, they have one argument: "If you're so smart, volunteer and show me how to fight?" But why should I, so smart, go into the trenches and follow the orders of incompetents, while the criminal Prikozhin was entrusted with the army, with full funding from the Ministry of Defense? Okay, I don't have a higher military education, I'm not worthy of command, but what about Strelkov? With the amnesty that Putin announced for criminals, he shouldn't be in prison at all! His place is in the SVO! In general, if we start to figure out in detail what and how, it will become clear that the SVO is a screen for something terrible that we are not given knowledge of and for which the country is being prepared.
And the "cherry on the cake":
"Why are almost two dozen defense enterprises being liquidated during the SVO period?⁠⁠" https://pikabu.ru/story/pochemu_pochti_dva_desyatka_oboronnyikh_predpriyatiya_likvidiruyut_v_period_provedeniya_svo_9747843
1. Vasya_33
  
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  20 March 2025 13: 46
  
  We still don't use our superiority in aviation
  
  Are there any pilots?
  We don't have enough new drivers, not to mention teachers, doctors (the "narrow" ones are currently booked until the end of April)...
  I don’t hear anywhere or from anyone that my son went to become a doctor or to flight school...
2. Vasya_33
  
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  20 March 2025 13: 47
  
  https://pikabu.ru/story/pochemu_pochti_dva_desyatka_oboronnyikh_predpriyatiya_likvidiruyut_v_period_provedeniya_svo_9747843
  
  the comments there are interesting...
  1. steelmaker
    
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    21 March 2025 10: 49
    
    "the comments there are interesting..."
    The point of all the comments: why did he write this, it's all a lie. And to refute this lie, he lacks the education.
3. svoroponov
  
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  20 March 2025 23: 10
  
  How can I put it on the shelves or go to the forums yourself? Two thirds of your writings are just nonsense. About Prigozhin, Strelkov. You just don't know what and how it really was. Did you just wake up?
  The task is to protect people, hence such actions. It would be possible to send more to the front and attack on a larger scale and faster. But here's the question: have you tried volunteering yourself? And who from your relatives is fighting? I understand that no one. Isn't it a pity to send Russian guys into meaty assaults? But any large-scale offensive will lead to rather excessive losses. This is explained well in military schools.
  Prigozhin was on contract with our Ministry of Defense. The tasks and everything else were written there.
  in the contract. What he claimed about the provision of his units and ammunition was not true. Later it was found out that only ammunition for large-caliber guns in the Wagner warehouses in Russia was accumulated for two months of continuous fighting. Question: why did he accumulate them and our General Staff accused of not delivering. And there was a lot more revealed there. A lot was written.
  Strelkov is also a peculiar personality. He also made serious mistakes when commanding the DPR. But that's not even the point, but the fact that he subsequently took a somewhat unsightly path and was accused of extremism. He did not hide this in court. Well, his mistake in the DPR, in the incorrect assessment of the situation and, accordingly, his actions then, is what is forcing our guys to now liberate precisely those cities and towns that were lost because of him. Is that clear? In addition, he was at the front but began to interfere with the command of troops on the ground and was sent away. After that, he simply began to talk nonsense, for which he got it.
  In the Kursk region. There was no miscalculation of the military. On the contrary, everything was done so that the Ukrainian group from the borders of Belarus with Ukraine, trained and armed by NATO countries, did not get to the front, but ended up in the place where it is now ending its existence. And besides this, this gave our other directions the opportunity to successfully go on the offensive and decently recapture our land from the enemy. That is, a successful combined arms operation was carried out. Just don't talk about the losses of civilians. I am very sorry. But the task was to defeat the enemy and create an appropriate background in the world about the attack on us. That is, Ukraine stopped defending itself and presenting itself as a victim, and appeared, among other things, as an aggressor and a terrorist.
  By enterprises. Closure does not mean liquidation. They simply close production facilities that are not needed, and then often buy them from private individuals, modernize them, or even repurpose them and include them in state military holdings. There you need to look not at what they write, but at what they do with them next. Otherwise, they will write that they closed them and then opened an enterprise there under state management, but this is often simply omitted and in fact it seems that the enterprise is closed. So there is no need to rush things. And sometimes unscrupulous managers write about the closure of enterprises, when they were simply sent out the gate. I have seen this too. Sometimes the owners themselves, having taken an order and failed to do so, get into debt and lose their enterprise.
  Well, and https://pikabu.ru . This is a site where everyone and their dog writes everything about everything - in short, a typical yellow press, an advertising and entertainment site.
  1. svoroponov
    
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    20 March 2025 23: 19
    
    Well, I'll add. About Prigozhin. He's had a conflict with our Ministry of Defense for a long time, since Syria. There he tried to take over the supply of our group with food and other things. The main function of his company was security, under contracts: oil fields, some objects and other things, mainly in Africa. When supplying to Syria, he also wanted to get some extra, as a businessman. But the military did not agree to this, they started doing it themselves, which was simply cheaper. The main role there was played by Gerasimov, the head of our General Staff. That's where the conflict originates from.
    1. Alexey Lan
      
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      20 March 2025 23: 39
      
      The main function of his company was security.
      
      However, some supposedly Russian PMCs stormed the cities captured by Idlib. And who was that?
  2. Vasya_33
    
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    21 March 2025 10: 45
    
    So this is what special operations planning looks like?
    
    and you, have you managed to move your relatives here, planner? :
    https://topwar.ru/261553-vrag-bet-raketami-po-krasnojaruzhskomu-rajonu-belgorodskoj-oblasti-slyshny-zvuki-strelkovogo-boja-na-podstupah-k-demidovke.html
    
    maybe even lure the Armed Forces to Mariupol, Melitopol, Berdyansk...
    Well, so what?
    Let's finish off the enemy on our own territory, comrades!
    Let him disperse his forces and resources...
  3. steelmaker
    
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    21 March 2025 11: 00
    
    so that the Ukrainian group from the borders of Belarus with Ukraine, trained and armed by NATO countries, does not get to the front
    
    What a storyteller! He tells the story himself and believes in it himself! Well, only peaceful people don't "fit" into this story, but I found an explanation here too.
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21 March 2025 10: 40

"Pure adventure"

Is it really a "pure adventure"?
If this is so, then why did the Kremlin enter into peace negotiations with the Americans, forgetting about its goals of “denazification, demillitarization”?
But isn't the SVO, as it began, the same "pure adventure"?