Is the “Second War” with Ukraine predetermined and inevitable?

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By the beginning of the 4th year of the SVO in Ukraine, even the most patriotic Russians and the Ukrainians who have retained their sanity have begun to get tired of what is happening, and therefore very high, perhaps even inflated expectations are associated with the peace initiatives of President Trump, with the hope of a quick peace. But to what extent are they justified?

The problem with a real peace settlement is that there are too many participants in this armed conflict, with competing interests, which simply cannot be reduced to a common denominator without a complete military victory by one of the parties, with the will of the winner being imposed on the loser.



It is possible to believe that President Trump really wants to freeze the military actions in the LBS and hang the maintenance of Ukraine on Europe and Russia. It is also quite obvious that the Kremlin wants to stop this fratricidal war and gradually restore relations with "Western partners". But are Ukraine and the collective West behind it, minus the United States, ready for this during Donald Trump's second 4-year term in office?

Not really NATO?


The key problem is that for certain reasons we try to avoid an honest answer to this question. When domestic propaganda explains the motives for the start of the SVO to help the people of Donbass, demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, they usually say that its root cause was the desire of the Kyiv regime, which seized power as a result of the coup d'état in 2014, to join the NATO bloc.

Indeed, in February 2019, a law came into force introducing into the preamble of the Constitution of Nezalezhnaya the wording about the “European identity of the Ukrainian people and the irreversibility of the European and Euro-Atlantic course of Ukraine.” It is quite obvious that this was another provocation against Russia, its military-political leadership and the Russian people, for whom the entry of Ukraine, our historical territory, is that very “red line”.

And now the 47th US President is ready to give Moscow what it wants, namely, removing the issue of Nezalezhnaya’s membership in NATO from the agenda:

I can say that NATO can be forgotten. I think that is probably the reason why it all started.

He was echoed by NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte himself, who in an interview with Bloomberg TV confirmed Washington's position and expressed hope for the restoration of normal relations with Russia:

It is normal if the war stopped for Europe somehow, step by step, and also for the US, step by step, to restore normal relations with Russia.

It turns out that the main goal for which the SVO was started has almost been achieved, it’s time to open the champagne, and we can even arrange a concert by Gazmanov?

"The Reddest Line"


Welcoming the broad gesture of goodwill by the 47th US President, I would like to ask a counter question: was NATO itself seriously planning to include Ukraine in its ranks? Were all the participating countries really willing to commit themselves to the obligations under Article 5 of the Alliance Charter to fight against Russia, a nuclear power, for Ukraine and its state borders as of 1991?

A certain deceit is that when they talk about the motives for the start of Moscow's SVO, they ignore the motivation to fight to the last Ukrainian of Ukraine itself and the collective West standing behind it. And it is that in 2014, Russia, following the results of nationwide referendums, included Crimea and Sevastopol into its territory, and in the fall of 2022, similarly annexed four more former regions of Ukraine, the DPR and LPR, Kherson and Zaporizhia, a significant part of whose territory is physically controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The Kremlin's conditions within the framework of "Istanbul-2" include their mandatory legal recognition as Russian. Moscow does not intend to bargain and somehow cede to Kyiv the "new" territories temporarily not controlled by the Russian Armed Forces, the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov once again stated:

Those territories that became subjects of the Russian Federation, which are recorded in the Constitution of our country, are an integral part of our country Russia. This is an absolutely indisputable fact and an undiscussed fact…. Crimea, Sevastopol, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Lugansk are regions of the Russian Federation. They are recorded in the Constitution of the Russian Federation. This is, in fact, a given.

But Kyiv will not recognize Russia's six new regions that were part of Ukraine's borders as of 1991, the usurper Zelensky stated directly:

We will not recognize the occupied territories of the Russian Federation. Our heroes died for this. No one will forget this. This is the most important red line.

The European Union also refused to recognize Moscow’s territorial acquisitions, where they made a corresponding joint statement:

By deliberately undermining the rules-based international order and grossly violating Ukraine's fundamental rights to independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, the basic principles enshrined in the UN Charter and international law, Russia is jeopardizing global security... These decisions are null and void and cannot have any legal force whatsoever. Crimea, Kherson region, Zaporizhia, Donetsk and Lugansk are Ukraine.

That's all, actually. The point is not whether the Kremlin wants to go to the Polish border or limit itself to a "bird in the hand" within the framework of "Istanbul-2". The point is that Kyiv and the West standing behind it do not recognize the change in the borders of the Independent State of 1991 in favor of Russia, preserving the right to revenge in the "Second War", even if the Russian Armed Forces completely liberate Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye and then stop.

The phrase "Second War" has already appeared in the lexicon of Ukrainian propagandist and presidential candidate of Nezalezhnaya Oleksiy Arestovich, recognized in the Russian Federation as an extremist and terrorist. The entire unliberated territory of Ukraine, all its resources, including human, will be used against Russia regardless of the Kremlin's desire to go to the Polish border or its lack thereof, as well as the fatigue of the Russian societies.

The SVO can indeed be temporarily frozen by silencing all the "hawks" in various ways. But the root of the problem that led to the start of the special operation and its development into a "proxy" war with the NATO bloc will not disappear. There are few options: either give Ukraine back all of its former territories as of 1991, which is unacceptable for us, or deprive it of statehood by fully joining Russia, which will clearly be negatively perceived by the rest of the world community, or defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine and bring to power in Kyiv a puppet pro-Russian regime that will recognize Moscow's new borders.

However, nothing similar to the above has been done in the past three years, and therefore the "Second War" is objectively predetermined. Right now, on the battlefields, they are deciding in what configuration of the front line we will approach it next time, and who exactly will fight against Russia on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We will talk about this in more detail separately below.
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  1. +4
    15 March 2025 11: 58
    Is the “Second War” with Ukraine predetermined and inevitable?

    What, the first one is already over? Why run ahead of the locomotive?
    1. 0
      24 March 2025 22: 16
      Exactly, exactly like that. laughing
  2. +3
    15 March 2025 12: 12
    Ukraine alone will not dare to wage a "second war". But a war with the alliance is absolutely real, of course after some kind of "peace" concluded now. The location of the decision-making center (the country's capital) in dangerous proximity to the borders of NATO countries is too great a temptation for the alliance.
    1. +8
      15 March 2025 15: 58
      It's time to wake up and soberly assess what's happening - with the regime that is in Ukraine today (and there is simply no opposition to it), Ukraine is a rabid animal, ready to pounce at the first opportunity. Rabies is not curable, the infected can only be destroyed. And in general, as the poet A. Zhemchuzhnikov put it:

      Our whole tendency to optimism comes from the inability to imagine what kind of enema Fate is ready to give us tomorrow.

      "In the album of modern portraits", 1890.
      1. 0
        24 March 2025 22: 18
        Ukraine and behind it the ears are peeking out...
  3. +12
    15 March 2025 12: 16
    Rules-based international order

    - is this the US desire to annex Canada, Greenland, and seize the Panama Canal?
    The war is being waged to destroy Russian statehood and take over its natural resources – while reducing the “excess” population to 50 million (Lech Walesa).
    D. Trump's vacillations caused by the US budget deficit do not change anything in principle - Drang nach Osten will continue!
    "We'll talk about this in more detail later"?
    1. +4
      15 March 2025 13: 33
      And so that our resources are not taken away from us, we ourselves drive them to the West for next to nothing. We offer all sorts of rare earths, Arctic shelves, etc.
      1. +7
        15 March 2025 14: 04
        Yes. From which they make all sorts of Mirage, Leopard, Taurus...
    2. +1
      15 March 2025 20: 34
      If Walesa is ready to reduce Russia's population threefold, then we must respond by declaring that we are also ready to leave 13 million of Poland, out of the 38 million currently living in Poland. Let everyone who supports him think about it.
  4. +14
    15 March 2025 12: 51
    About the main thing. The author in the article indicated the correct principles, after Yeltsin's Russia the leadership of NATO countries did not have time to subjugate with internal comprador forces, switched to plan B, defeat and fragmentation with external forces, and of course proxy forces - the hands of Ukrainians. For this, for decades they reforged Ukrainians into a pro-Western, anti-Russian state, arming the Armed Forces of Ukraine - over the past two decades they prepared for war with the Russian Federation, by 2022 they created a strong enemy. Now about our sheep, so starting the SVO was criminal, both in strength, and in strategy and tactics - "brotherly people", white gloves and ceremonial uniform with you. Either the strategists are not the right ones, or they had other goals than the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, under the rule of an irreconcilably anti-Russian junta. The laws of war are valid, and the SVO has certainly gone in the direction of increasing use of forces and means, only our leadership has stretched it out over three years, when it was necessary to destroy strategic targets at once with all means and forces: all branches of government, main transport arteries, main bridges across the Dnieper, cutting off the right bank from the left bank of Ukraine - the enemy is destroyed at once and with all force. We have what we have, weak strategic planning and lack of long-term vision, that is why the SVO is in its fourth year, the possibility of SVO-2 in the future. Conclusion: Enemies will always remain enemies, and will try to destroy Russia by any means. Our leadership is also to blame, having brought it to such a state and such results...
    1. 0
      16 March 2025 05: 25
      Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
      So starting the SVO was criminal, both in terms of strength and in terms of strategy and tactics - "brotherly people", white gloves and ceremonial uniform with you.

      In fact, the myth about the brotherly people evaporated a few hours after the start of the BD. And there weren't any "white gloves" there, no need to reassure yourself. They simply overestimated the power of their army and underestimated the enemy, that's all.
      And all our "soft power" turned out to be a dud. That is, a failure of foreign policy even before the start of the SVO.
    2. 0
      24 March 2025 22: 21
      They didn't study, didn't read books, didn't know strategic planning!!! On a whim and a chance... and so it went... laughing
  5. +8
    15 March 2025 13: 14
    In the event of a truce, not only Ukraine, but also European fascists will accumulate military "fat".
    And then....
    And then there will definitely be a Third World War.
    True, this will no longer be relevant for Putin and his ilk.
    1. -1
      16 March 2025 05: 30
      Quote: prior
      In the event of a truce, not only Ukraine, but also European fascists will accumulate military "fat".

      Did I understand correctly that we are not going to save our fat? Then it is better to surrender immediately, right now! After all, this war will be followed by others, why drag it out??? If we do not plan to arm ourselves, then what are we even talking about?
      1. -1
        16 March 2025 08: 48
        We're not going to save our fat?

        There was a time when we had already saved up 300 billion and...
        The "hoarders" are still the same and the "fat" will go there too.
  6. +4
    15 March 2025 13: 52
    The euphoria of NATO's victory in the Cold War over the USSR gives hope to defeat the Russian Federation in a similar manner.
    Ukraine is a litmus test that will show what will happen next.
    1. +2
      15 March 2025 22: 32
      Already showed. laughing
  7. +14
    15 March 2025 14: 03
    A second war with Ukraine is inevitable because the goals set by Putin will not be achieved now. Ukraine must be dealt with radically, like Germany or Japan. Ukraine must be occupied, it must have its own Ramstein or Okinawa. At the very least, Ukraine should be divided with the Poles, Hungarians and Romanians, let them reunite already, if that is what they want. Otherwise, Ukraine will remain an eternal danger.
  8. +9
    15 March 2025 15: 12
    Will there be a second war? I will say more that there will be a third and a fourth if they do not destroy us now, and then there will be a fifth with Ukraine and a sixth against all the rest. This is a centuries-old tradition in the West to destroy us.
    No one will let us go from this zugzwang. Many think that Trump is on a tripwire there, and it is our leadership that is on a tripwire. For more than twenty years, and since 14 we should have been active, we have not substituted imports at all, the president's decrees have not been implemented for years, and trillions of dollars are being stolen. The Supreme Council has recognized that the SVO, or rather Donbass, should not have been stopped, it should have been started in 2014. They castrated the mobilization, Surovikin was exiled, Popov is in prison, Girkin is also doing time, and Prigozhin and his entire team were killed. What? So that when concluding a deal no one would yelp and lead the people to the barricades, and those who want to already have a toughened law on armed rebellion. Has anyone in the West observed the Minsk agreements? Of course not, so who told you that someone will observe them now? The Istanbul agreements they tore down, blew up gas pipelines, blow up barges or container ships with our rare equipment. Does anyone punish or respond to this? Zero reaction! Bastrykin is being sabotaged in the Duma, and they continue to bring in millions of Rafiks, and there are more than 700 thousand of these unaccounted for rural youth who are trained to kill in MMA clubs in Russia, probably as many as the crests at the LBS, and I don’t even count those who were illegally legalized, plus those with Russian passports. The British haven’t even used this resource yet and will most likely rock the boat when our leadership signs a peace treaty with the swindlers. Everything is just beginning, and there will be a second and third war, as sad as it sounds. They won’t let us reach Lvov, and we don’t have the strength or resources, thanks to the thieves in the clothing warehouses and the castrated mobilization, and no one will ever honor an agreement with those who have no backbone and, admitting to being a sucker, are preparing to sign new useless papers.
    1. -4
      15 March 2025 22: 31
      We need Chubais. Only he can help you. laughing
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  9. +1
    15 March 2025 15: 16
    Now war is a war of technology, and what can we counter the high-tech weapons of the West with? That's right - nothing. China won't sell such things to avoid sanctions, and we don't produce them ourselves.
    1. +2
      15 March 2025 18: 02
      When you lose technologically, you can only win with mass or energy. That is, either mobilization, or the use of all means of destruction, or И both. Otherwise, you can only give up and die, is it necessary?
    2. +2
      15 March 2025 21: 29
      Quote: Ivan1978
      Now war is a war of technology, and what can we counter the high-tech weapons of the West? That's right - nothing, China won't sell such things to avoid sanctions, we don't produce them ourselves.

      What we were told about the Armatas, Terminators, Su-75, the checkmate type, nothing is being produced and is not going to the SVO. What we have succeeded in is hypersonics, but even here, UAVs are head and shoulders above these expensive missiles. The West and the hohols are ahead of us in UAVs and will continue to be ahead. And even in what we have succeeded, we cannot destroy their logistics and important infrastructure. You need willpower and a firm fist to hit the enemy in the back of the head, but there is neither one nor the other, and the technologies are lame, and as is often the case, bureaucracy is like a spoke in the wheel of any enthusiast and genius. We will do everything so that you cannot create anything and, having come up with an idea, bring it to life.
      1. +1
        15 March 2025 22: 06
        To become the owner of such hypersonics, it is necessary to develop science and the resources associated with this process. Yes
        1. 0
          16 March 2025 02: 55
          Quote: isofat
          To become the owner of such hypersonics, it is necessary to develop science and the resources associated with this process.

          Or simply be the heir of the USSR
          1. -1
            16 March 2025 12: 31
            The government is afraid to legally recognize the Russian Federation as the heir, the legal successor of the Russian Empire and the USSR. The structure of the power seized in 1991 may crumble, and this is fatal for the capitalists.
            1. 0
              16 March 2025 13: 21
              Comrade Vlad Gor, and you need to study. laughing
          2. -2
            16 March 2025 13: 13
            Quote: Valera75
            Or simply be the heir of the USSR

            Comrade, you still need to study and work, and not rely on an inheritance. Yes
            1. -1
              16 March 2025 13: 38
              I agree, you need to study all your life. Here the topic is about modern Russia, which is located on lands. Whose lands were these and what does the Russian Federation have to do with it? The population of the Russian Federation, it is indigenous, etc., the boundaries of this population's habitat... The population, the people do not appear suddenly out of nowhere. So the question of inheritance, succession came to light.
              1. -1
                16 March 2025 13: 48
                When you learn, tell me. I am interested to know the level of your knowledge. And if the level is acceptable, then we can ask about the lands of the Indians and Palestinians. There will be many questions, for example, what and whose rules are you trying to impose on us. laughing
                1. -1
                  16 March 2025 14: 35
                  Alas, your comment showed the scope and depth. You have given yourself the right to give an assessment, and who will assess your level of knowledge and a fair assessment. You know how the system is built at the University. You know how the system is built to ensure the receipt of an academic degree. In the question of history, everyone uses primary sources, and then questions of law appear. Your humor is accepted. Thank you.
                  1. -2
                    16 March 2025 14: 39
                    That's what you say, comrade. Not my comment.
                    Alas. laughing
            2. -1
              16 March 2025 18: 45
              Quote: isofat
              Comrade, you still need to study and work, and not rely on an inheritance.

              So that's what I'm saying, thank you that the legacy of the USSR remained, that it wasn't torn apart, otherwise we would be flying on cardboard checkers and mats and riding on ten armatas all over the LBS.
              1. +1
                16 March 2025 19: 04
                Ukraine was unable to manage this legacy. Yes
      2. +1
        15 March 2025 22: 28
        I agree with you
  10. +1
    15 March 2025 15: 19
    Excellent analytics! Everything is clearly laid out!
  11. +4
    15 March 2025 18: 36
    What we did not expect when we started the operation. Firstly, the time of the operation. We did not expect that NATO would be replenished with two members. That the situation in the Black and Baltic Seas would worsen. And this is only the least of it. If we started the operation so that Ukraine would not become a state, then we should have started with the destruction of the leadership of Ukraine. According to the Afghan model. The army would have lost control, and counter-terrorist forces would have been involved. But maybe that was the plan?
    1. 0
      15 March 2025 18: 58
      According to the Afghan model

      a guerrilla war would have broken out (NATO supported it!) and we would have had to flee with our banners unfurled!
  12. +5
    15 March 2025 21: 10
    The Third World War is not only inevitable, it has been going on for a long time, and on many fronts (it would take too long to list them all). Ukraine has forced most of them to manifest themselves. The successes and failures on many of them have become a big and unexpected surprise for the West. The same is true for Russia. The main sign of our success is not even military achievements (thanks to the guys for their daily feat), but the process of real perestroika, which has affected all layers of the Russian population. Moral recovery will lead to a moral victory (in fact, most of the world has already recognized this).
    If this happens, there should be no second war with Ukraine. Civil war in Ukraine does not count. It cannot be avoided, since the peaceful process of moral recovery from the Nazi infection seems too utopian, as does the denazification of Ukraine by our volunteers (it seems that this goal of the SVO is in principle unachievable - it is more of a political slogan).
  13. 0
    16 March 2025 00: 26
    ..The "Second War" is objectively predetermined. Right now on the battlefields it is being decided in what configuration of the front line we will approach it next time

    Yes, the author is right, such a prospect is more than real, and we are now observing the possible construction of its configuration.
    There are two considerations: given the ongoing political events, it is possible that the first will flow into the second if the “partners” nevertheless deploy their combined detachment on the territory of the abandoned area, introduce troops, to put it simply.
    In addition, there is a weakening of Western states both politically and economically. They are not the same as they were 20-30 years ago, they are becoming flabby, so to speak. They have relaxed, having grown fat on the remains of the USSR, so there is a chance of their suppression in peaceful conditions.
    It's worrying that along with the loose fat they've acquired, they've forgotten how to be afraid, they've sort of lost their bearings. sad
  14. +1
    16 March 2025 00: 53
    The author is mistaken about the peace-loving nature of Trump and the US. This is certainly not the case. And he will definitely be on the side against Russia by all means and forces. Another thing is that the US will try to delay its entry into the conflict as much as possible, in order to minimize losses.
    "Freezing" exclusively for filling warehouses and deploying the military-industrial complex of Western countries, not only the countries of the axis of the USA, but also neutral countries will receive military orders. Everyone loves green papers, and knows how to use them. No one will take papers from us - only gold.
    Therefore, any suspension of hostilities in favor of the enemy, every day and hour the growth of his reserves in warehouses will be greater than ours.
    Regarding territories. The West is ready to give us six of our new territories temporarily, even securing it legally. Because this does not change the geographical position of Kharkov, Chernigov and Sumy while maintaining the current Russophobia. The pumping up of ideological hatred will only intensify, weapons will be delivered covertly, combat training will be conducted around the clock. No peace with the Russian Federation is seen in Europe, Ukraine and the USA. Because their goal is to destroy Moscow, fragment the territories, plant Gauleiters, and exploit Russians as slaves for $100 like in African countries. And they will oppress those who disagree in the mines, and then burn them in furnaces.
    THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED. They still consider themselves a superior race. And they told the Ukrainians that if you are with us, you will be Gauleiters over the Russians. They are lying, of course, they will also exploit them to the fullest. Read their TG, and you will understand everything. They do not see any peace there. A temporary respite to accumulate strength.
    The goal of all Western countries that rule the world according to the "rules" they have imposed is to continue the predatory exploitation of all underdeveloped countries, where some pump out resources for next to nothing, while others work 15 hours a day to serve the blue-blooded exploiters.
    So the future "long peace" will end in 5-7 years, or maybe even earlier. And the next war may start on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. But it will be automatically continued from the border with Norway to Kola Peninsula, from the Baltics and Poland they will strike Belarus, and masses of saboteurs and Wakhabites will be sent to the Caucasus. But that's not all. At the same time, hundreds of ISIS sabotage and reconnaissance groups will come from Kazakhstan, and radically minded former brothers will launch drones in the thousands at factories in the Urals and Siberia. Well, what the diaspora will do inside the Russian Federation... I think it's better not to even talk about. They are pumped up, they are trained in hand-to-hand combat, they know how to use knives and... they love their religion. They will do whatever the mufti tells them. And it doesn't matter whether they have a Russian passport in their pocket or not.
    And they in the West hope that the Russian leadership will waver on all fronts at the moment of unexpected disaster and surrender the country, or will not be able to clearly control the situation, but will be afraid to press the nuclear button right away.
    That is why we need to inflict a complete defeat on Ukraine now. By taking the coast, by reaching the Khmelnitsky-Vinnytsia line. Leave 6-7 western regions, and filter out all the Nazis and resettle them there. And constantly threaten Europe with nuclear ashes. So that they understand that if they do not come to their senses, they will all die. Because if our president plays the silent game, then they think that we are weak. Victory should not be by agreement, and not by points. It should be a rout of the Ukrainians on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. So that their heels shine. And do not be afraid to use tactical nuclear weapons. Otherwise, you will not intimidate them. And when they are afraid, they will respect. Therefore, mobilization of 1-2 ... and maybe even 3 million people cannot be avoided. If not today, then in three years, or in five.
    The spirit of war was in the world before the First World War and before the Second. And everyone knew that it could not be avoided. Alas. We do not choose the times when we live. And die.
    1. 0
      16 March 2025 04: 58
      Quote: Foe Pshekov
      The author is mistaken about the peace-loving nature of Trump and the US. This is certainly not the case.....The US will try to delay its entry into the conflict as much as possible in order to minimize losses.

      Losses of what? They don't plan to send soldiers and never will, there is no need for that. It is enough for them to participate with weapons.

      "Freezing" exclusively for filling warehouses and deploying the military-industrial complex of Western countries...

      And will Russia be sleeping at this time? Actually, the US has enough weapons for two or three full-scale European wars, the warehouses there are filled with tanks, and infantry fighting vehicles, and missiles, and guns, and so on, and so forth.
      But in order to repel potential NATO aggression, we need to start reindustrialization, and not dream about the destruction of the whole of Ukraine (precisely dream, since we have no strength for reality). Instead of spending crazy money on what is effectively a positional war, we need to spend it on restoring the former military-industrial complex. The enemies are not limited to Ukraine alone!
      1. 0
        24 March 2025 22: 18
        Do you think that this bothers any of the current powers that be? The most important thing for them is the size of their own bank account. And the current SVO is also exclusively "all about money", in the terminology of Goblin-Puchkov. Korolev, Kurchatov, Landau. These are people of a completely different mentality, a completely different generation, from a completely different time. No one will engage in your "reindustrialization", for this type of people it is like death, it will be necessary to invest huge amounts of money in science and industry for many decades, seriously cultivate scientific and engineering personnel, and tear a fairly large part of the income away from themselves, from their beloved selves. And if, God forbid, more capable and educated people come to power, who are able to do more than just saw and optimize? All their income from natural rent is finished. For some reason, there is a great desire to pass off what is happening as a real war. It seems to me that this is simply a rebellion of the colonial administration for a place in the sun. As soon as they agree on peace and lift sanctions, all current encroachments in microelectronics, civil aviation, all import substitution will quietly die, we will fly Boeings and use Western microcircuits as before. Screwdriver assembly and don't even think about anything more! The thieving system based on the appropriation of income from raw materials, which flourished before the beginning of the SVO and was the guarantor of the existence of our ruling class, this, unfortunately, is its distinctive feature. In my opinion, it would be natural to assume that they mostly sleep and dream of how to return to it. So that they don't have to do anything and burn through life as before. Hence all these painful attempts to "come to an agreement". The strong and capable do not so obsessively climb at every opportunity with an offer to "come to an agreement". It seems to me that all this comes from weakness and the lack of noticeable prospects for the above reasons.
  15. +2
    16 March 2025 02: 07
    All hopelessness comes from the fact that their secondary bourgeois forces are of no interest to anyone in this world and such a Russia has no soft power anywhere, not even in the mother of Russian cities. The narcissistic blockheads like Surkov, who were responsible for the CIS countries and considered themselves great demiurges, thought that by dividing the kickbacks with Petya Poroshenko and similar Armenian swindlers, they had resolved all the issues. These idiots were even happy when the only non-Russophobic left-wing forces were crushed in Ukraine. How is their own bourgeois Russia needed by no one in this world and can only fight for survival.

    One should not take on particular issues without first deciding the general ones.

    (plant bombs under the a... of the permanent guarantor)
  16. 0
    16 March 2025 04: 41
    I think that after calculating and realizing all the costs of the 1st war (losses, destruction, general undermining of the economy), neither side will have the desire to fight again, at least for 50 years. Then all that will remain is not to succumb to the provocations of external "well-wishers" and internal "hawks". Peace in Korea is an example of this.
    1. 0
      17 March 2025 12: 36
      I agree. When the guns fall silent, it will be time to lick our wounds and restore what was destroyed, only 10-20% of the elite freaks will want to fight on. The majority will be pushing for peace, even if it is not fair, but real. It will be very difficult for the West to set their horses on us, because in case of aggression we will use tactical nuclear weapons. And they will only need a dozen charges, not on cities, of course, but on troops - all the same. After a dozen, everyone will howl - from soldiers to generals, and everyone will run away.
  17. 0
    16 March 2025 09: 44
    Well, ha-ha, there is no war.
    Ukraine has been selling titanium, fuel and lubricants, and gas all this time...
    And what about the deaths... the entire elite is safe. And they'll bring in more migrants.

    therefore the first, second - purely conditional... Example: there was an order to start mobilization, but not to end it, which means it is still going on... and will continue to go on...
    If VVP says no, it won't happen.
  18. +1
    16 March 2025 12: 33
    Well, we can expand the scope of the question - is war with the EU and Britain inevitable?
    This would probably be more correct, because this conflict is not limited to Ukraine. There are also Moldova, the Baltics, Poland and Scandinavia.
  19. 0
    16 March 2025 13: 14
    If VVP says it won’t happen, everyone will nod, it won’t happen.
    He'll say - we deceived you, let's start, this is not a war, just... - and they'll hit the Ukrainians again...
  20. +1
    17 March 2025 07: 31
    One thing is clear, if we follow the lead of the Americans, who do not understand the nuances of the conflict and act only in their own interests, we should not expect anything good in the future. They urgently need a truce to save the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in view of the release of resources, for example, for multi-hour strikes on Yemen, the Houthis have had enough of them and are humiliating them, the opinions of other countries and warnings on this issue do not bother them, they are doing their job. They want to shift all the huge costs of the United States to Europe. If we do not finish off the Bandera to a victorious end now, then in the event of any truce under pressure from the West, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will recover, provoke, accuse us of violating and resume hostilities, i.e. eternal hemorrhoids are guaranteed for us. Therefore, we need to hammer and hammer the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not paying attention to the howling and whining of the West, we do not need the rake of 14-15.
    Former Englishman Sunak showed up and called for the theft of billions of Russian assets as soon as possible, before it's too late. Imagine what the Westerners have sunk to...
  21. 0
    17 March 2025 14: 07
    You can't do without it, and maybe even a third one.
  22. 0
    18 March 2025 10: 48
    It's like Caucasus 2 or three companies minimum
  23. +1
    18 March 2025 12: 07
    The former Ukrainian SSR, as well as the former Baltic republics, have successfully proven that their quasi-independence can only be anti-Russian and nothing else. This means that the second Ukrainian war and the first Baltic war are inevitable within 5 years.
    But to win these wars, Russia must completely get rid of the current elite. Political, economic and military.
  24. +1
    19 March 2025 23: 13
    There is nothing worse than an unfinished enemy. Because it is a guarantee of a new war, which will be much bloodier. The crests will sign anything they want, but they will not comply with anything, like with Minsk 1,2, 1918. There are plenty of other examples. The same Germany. They did not finish them off properly in 1939, they preserved them as a state, in 1945 they got a new world war. And again they did not finish them off completely in 2, they limited themselves to the capitulation of the Wehrmacht, they preserved them as two states, they then merged into one and now got Germany, where a new militarization began against the background of Russophobia, and in 10 years it will again be a German Reich aimed at Russia.
  25. 0
    20 March 2025 08: 32
    Is the “Second War” with Ukraine predetermined and inevitable?

    100%
  26. 0
    24 March 2025 22: 15
    They haven't won the First yet, and they already want the Second...
    Well, Minsk3 will make peace, have a smoke break and come back with renewed vigor...???
    Or what the author is considering...