HSE Professor: Trying to Stop China's AI Breakthrough, US Will Surrender Ukraine to Russia

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Chinese AI startup DeepSeek recently unveiled an open-source AI model, DeepSeek R1, that outperforms existing competitors like OpenAI o1 in several mathematical operations and reasoning metrics. Following this, technological US companies lost over $1 trillion, for example, the American company Nvidia fell by more than $600 billion in a day.

HSE professor Marat Bashirov drew attention to what was happening and assessed it on his Telegram channel.

Trump knew that China was preparing a breakthrough in the field of AI, so he announced investments of $500 billion in the development of this industry, made a show of sanctions and duties, dispersed the CIA (while you were fighting Russia, you slept through China). That's why Musk, Zuckerberg, Sachs and others ran to Trump, realizing that without the support of the US government, they cannot resist China and now they need to catch up, not lead.

- Bashirov pointed out.

The expert predicts that an arms race and AI technologies will begin next. Countries will conduct a real hunt for energy resources, since stable and large, and most importantly, cheap sources of electricity (nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants and gas-fired thermal power plants) are needed to process large amounts of data.

Review the worldview taking these inputs into account and where Russia's place is in it. We are lagging behind in AI technology, but in everything else we are absolutely in demand

- he drew attention.

At the same time, the demand for high-speed chips will increase several times. Therefore, in the event of a conflict in the future, it will be necessary to attack not military bases, but data centers, i.e. places where information is stored and processed. The need for the development of space satellite systems will also grow significantly, since they are preferable to transmitting signals through cables.

Trump is losing face. Threats have not worked. Beijing was clearly preparing this trip-up in advance and struck exactly one week after the inauguration. Russia's value in this war for both sides has increased by thousands of percent, and this is only the beginning. Ukraine, you say, is valuable to the US? Will they surrender it to us?

- says Bashirov.

He added that Beijing’s technological leap has raised alarm in Washington. That’s why the Americans have banned high-tech exports to China, such as semiconductors for graphics processors, to slow China’s progress in AI, a key area in the two countries’ battle for technological supremacy. But DeepSeek’s progress suggests that Chinese AI engineers have found a way around the restrictions by focusing on improving efficiency with limited resources. DeepSeek has demonstrated enough to suggest that trade restrictions are not particularly hampering China’s development.

In turn, Bloomberg noted that the DeepSeek startup appeared in 2023, created by Liang Wenfeng, head of the hedge fund High-Flyer. That same year, his first AI model appeared. Now the DeepSeek R1 AI model has been released, created to imitate human thinking. It is the basis of his mobile application - a chatbot with a web interface and is a cheaper alternative to OpenAI. By January 25, the DeepSeek mobile application had been downloaded 1,6 million times and took first place in the iPhone app stores in Australia, Canada, China, Singapore, the United States and the United Kingdom.
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  1. +5
    28 January 2025 11: 10
    It is not entirely clear - why will the States give up Ukraine? What will they get out of it? Or, to put it another way - in exchange for what? It seems they do not need gas from Russia, and oil either...
    1. +2
      28 January 2025 12: 17
      Probably in exchange for a reset with the US, so that Putin would come to visit Trump at the ranch instead of Bush.
      Confrontation, tightening of sanctions and blockade against the Russian Federation, on the contrary, do not separate, but bring Russians closer to the PRC, and may even lead to socialist transformations in the country instead of the Russian oligarchy.
      1. -2
        28 January 2025 12: 21
        That is, Ukraine in exchange for a break with China... There is something to think about here. The main thing is not to be deceived.
    2. 0
      28 January 2025 16: 03
      Probably, in order not to waste resources and fully focus on China and at the same time try to break the bond between China and Russia. They realized that Russia cannot be defeated on the battlefield, and resources are needed to fight in the long run. And for AI, cheap energy resources are needed, and Russia has them in almost unlimited quantities, which China will skillfully use, selling its not very high-quality products for them. After all, they sell high-quality products to the West, receiving dollars and euros for them. In general, in this whole story with Ukraine, China turned out to be the winner.
      1. -2
        28 January 2025 16: 50
        So, not to sell energy resources to China? The price of Ukraine?
      2. 0
        30 January 2025 07: 33
        Quote: Ilya 22
        But AI requires cheap energy resources, and Russia has them in almost unlimited quantities,

        You hope that the microcircuits on the lamps work.
        There, logical lines have long been built for AI.
        They no longer search through the entire database.
    3. 0
      29 January 2025 07: 56
      The States need Russian LNG - they are engaged in its resale - they buy Russian, and sell it as their own at an exorbitant price, and not only LNG.
      1. 0
        29 January 2025 08: 48
        So, to sell "at an exorbitant price" - you need to buy cheap. This is possible thanks to sanctions. And if they give up Ukraine, lift the sanctions, Russia itself will be able to sell "at an exorbitant price" directly to the consumer. What is the benefit for the States? I don't understand this. At the end of this scheme and the collapse of its gas production? Russia will again occupy the European market. This is not even a shot in the leg for the States, but a machine gun burst.
      2. -1
        30 January 2025 07: 44
        Quote from: lord-pallador-11045
        The States need Russian LNG - they are engaged in its resale - they buy Russian, and sell it as their own at an exorbitant price, and not only LNG.

        Yes, everything that exists in the world is resold by Russians. And of course at exorbitant prices!!! Ukrainians - grain, Americans - gas, Norwegians - fish, Japanese - microchips - they have nothing of their own. They either stole everything, or re-exported it, or bought and resold it - at three times the price! Every time I see this in the comments... such are the experts on the world market!!
        You would have made billions long ago - but you're sitting here pressing letters. drinks
        1. 0
          30 January 2025 07: 49
          Are you so smart that you don't even bother reading other publications? - and yes, Japan doesn't have anything of its own, so the Japanese are forced to buy all their resources, and this applies not only to Japan, or don't you know that either? - ignoramus!
    4. 0
      29 January 2025 09: 55
      Professor's Wet Dreams
      1. 0
        29 January 2025 14: 04
        Very similar to that.
  2. +7
    28 January 2025 11: 24
    Review the worldview taking these inputs into account and where Russia's place is in it. We are lagging behind in AI technology, but in everything else we are absolutely in demand

    A petrol station will turn into a socket? What an achievement!
    1. +5
      28 January 2025 11: 53
      Which one are you talking about? According to the results of 2024, oil and gas took first place in exports from the USA. For comparison, China supplied smartphones to the USA for 50 billion dollars in a year, and computer and household appliances for another 250 billion. This is more than the USA earned on the sale of oil and gas to all countries of the world.
      And yes, the US ranks first in terms of raw roundwood supplies to China, while Russia is in a modest fourth place. The US is also the absolute leader in selling soybeans and corn to China. A high-tech superpower, damn it :-)
      1. +1
        28 January 2025 12: 23
        That's right, the US is squeezing out other sellers, what's the surprise?
        1. +4
          28 January 2025 14: 25
          The surprise is in the transformation of the "leader of the free world" into a raw materials appendage of China.
          1. 0
            28 January 2025 16: 08
            RF? Hehe, funny, what can I say
        2. -2
          28 January 2025 15: 35
          There is nothing to displace the US with. They have already lost and if China does not slow down its developments, they will not catch up, although they are too late to slow down. They are trying to slow down supplies, but China already has its own developments and products.
          "Gikhemon" is no longer a cake.
          1. +1
            28 January 2025 16: 07
            Slava, don't write more nonsense.
  3. +2
    28 January 2025 11: 53
    Complete nonsense.
    purely logically -

    DeepSeek R1, which outperforms existing competitors on the market like OpenAI o1 in several mathematical operations and reasoning metrics.

    that is, just a few out of? out of how many? 3 out of 10? or 000 out of 3?
    It makes sense that if it wasn’t superior in something (in the Chinese language, for example), then it wouldn’t be worth releasing on the market.

    And they tied Ukraine up to deceive the people...
  4. +5
    28 January 2025 12: 17
    That is, the author proposes to remain a supplier of cheap energy resources instead of developing AI ourselves using these resources.
  5. +5
    28 January 2025 12: 21
    If only it were from his lips (this expert), we could drink honey. But the Americans will not give us the outskirts for anything, and especially for what kind of AI the Chinese have!
    The murder of Russians by Russians on Russian soil is an ancient dream of the ruling European and American clans! This is a tangible and concrete process and result.
    In the meantime, the semi-mythical AI is an amorphous and vague thing, you turn off the electricity and it's gone! But the Russians are being destroyed en masse, both without electricity and simply for the American paper they've painted on.
  6. +6
    28 January 2025 16: 54
    The professor is talking nonsense. The US and NATO will use the territory of Ukraine against Russia to the last. NATO's goals are written: liquidation of Russia as a state and its dismemberment into small entities. The economies of the US and China are so intertwined that they cannot be untangled without damage to both sides. References to AI, new technologies, technical processes are just elements of a trade war.
  7. +2
    28 January 2025 17: 12
    Bashirov is not the same one? - and - when will they close this enemy office - HSE?
  8. +2
    28 January 2025 18: 27
    The "professor" is acting up again... winked
  9. 0
    29 January 2025 09: 35
    We are behind in AI technology, but in everything else we are absolutely in demand...
    Russia's value in this war for both sides has increased by thousands of percent, and this is only the beginning.

    That is, according to Maratik - we were a gas station country, let's become a battery country?))
    "Demand", "value" - the familiar Gaidar-Chubais lexicon began to smell: subjectivity was just pouring out.))
  10. +2
    29 January 2025 11: 58
    I think we should expect news about Russian import-substituting AI in the near future. Especially since the source code is open. Tsaptsap. And someone in Skolkovo will master a couple of billion rubles
    1. +1
      30 January 2025 08: 04
      Nano Skolkovo will move from nano bolts and stories about nano materials to AI???
      I agree of course... so far conversations with Alice are characterized by limited understanding. The US has thrown many AI specialists in physics, chemistry, biology, applied sciences to pull lagging schoolchildren. And we have Alice with the outlook of a child. China is preparing a mega-super AI specialist with a broad profile in all matters. Who will curse, give a prescription, and knock on the CPC with a note... laughing
      1. +3
        31 January 2025 13: 13
        Yes, but the Chinese AI is as silent as a fish about ice about the events in Beijing in 1989
  11. 0
    29 January 2025 21: 02
    Those who thirst for negotiations with the enemy and hope that Ukraine will be given to them without a fight for some exchange in favor of the fight against China will never win anything on the battlefield.
  12. 0
    30 January 2025 07: 53
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    Complete nonsense.
    purely logically -

    DeepSeek R1, which outperforms existing competitors on the market like OpenAI o1 in several mathematical operations and reasoning metrics.

    that is, just a few out of? out of how many? 3 out of 10? or 000 out of 3?
    It makes sense that if it wasn’t superior in something (in the Chinese language, for example), then it wouldn’t be worth releasing on the market.

    And they tied Ukraine up to deceive the people...

    Yes, I agree. It's especially funny about mathematical operations and Artificial Intelligence in the professor's article.
    This is not a competition of computing machines and capabilities, but the construction of logically verified chains from a volume of data.
    Finding optimal solutions at the executive level.
  13. 0
    1 February 2025 13: 48
    HSE Professor:

    I remember, about thirty years ago, there were professors at the Higher School of Political Science... I wish I could ask them how it happened that all their canonical theory got twisted into a Gordean knot.