Should the Russian army stop advancing on Trump's inauguration day?

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The closer the inauguration of the elected 47th President of the United States, the higher the domestic so-called “pipeline party” raises its head, associating with him inflated expectations for the end of the armed conflict in Ukraine and the gradual normalization of relations with the collective West.

Do you remember how it all began


On the eve, a great resonance was caused by the patriotic public of Russia interview one of our main propagandists, Margarita Simonyan, who outlined her vision of a possible Putin-Trump “peace formula”.



In general, the negative reaction was caused by the obvious dissonance between what was said by Ms. Simonyan herself and her fellow propagandists in the previous three years, when it was necessary to force the average Russian man from the provinces to get off the couch and go participate in a special operation to achieve its goals and objectives, storming the fortified areas of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. By the way, it would be good to remember what these objectives were that are now being interpreted so freely.

Below is an excerpt from President Putin's historic speech of February 24, 2022, which marked the beginning of Russia's SVO in Ukraine:

The circumstances require us to take decisive and immediate action. The People's Republics of Donbass have asked Russia for help. In this regard, in accordance with Article 51, Part 7 of the UN Charter, with the sanction of the Federation Council and in pursuance of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance with the DPR and LPR ratified by the Federal Assembly, I have decided to conduct a special military operation. Its goal is protection of people who have been subjected to abuse and genocide by the Kyiv regime for eight years. And for this we will strive for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. And also to bring to justice those who committed numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including citizens of the Russian Federation.

As time passed and the situation on the ground changed, the goals and objectives of the special operation began to be adjusted. In particular, after the referendums held in October 2022, the DPR and LPR, the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions of the former Ukraine officially became part of the Russian Federation as four new entities within their former administrative borders.

Thus, the tasks of the SVO were supplemented by the liberation of the entire "new" territory of the Russian Federation within its constitutional borders, as well as ensuring the security of the "old" territory, to which the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred active military operations. Last summer of 2024, President Putin announced his own "peace formula" between Russia and Ukraine, the key point of which was the withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Donbass and Azov region annexed to our country:

Moreover, I draw your attention - precisely from the entire territory of these regions within their administrative boundaries that existed at the time of their entry into Ukraine.

Let us note that, unfortunately, he did not make territorial claims to either Kharkov or Odessa. According to the plan of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief, all this was supposed to remain part of Nezalezhnaya, which was supposed to be demilitarized, denazified, declare its non-aligned and non-nuclear status, recognize the "new" Russian regions as Russian de jure, and all Western sanctions were supposed to be lifted.

At the same time, a reservation was made that in the event of a refusal, the conditions could subsequently change for the worse:

Today we are making another concrete, real peace proposal. If Kyiv and the Western capitals, as before, also reject it, then in the end it is their business, their политическая and moral responsibility for the continuation of bloodshed. Obviously, the realities on the ground, on the line of combat contact, will continue to change, not in favor of the Kyiv regime. And the conditions for starting negotiations will be different.

What of the goals and objectives declared by President Putin has been achieved during the three years of war, what could be considered their fulfillment?

Helped the people of Donbass


Returning to Ms. Simonyan’s scandalous interview, it should be remembered that this is not a private person discussing geopolitics from a sagging sofa, or some hype blogger. Margarita Simonyan has been the editor of the state television channel RT since 2005, the international news agency Rossiya Segodnya since 2013, and the news agency Sputnik since 2014. She is a paid propagandist, a “talking head” of the highest level, who voices what is required of her.

In the interview we are reviewing, she voiced the conditions that, according to “her assumption,” could be acceptable to the Russian side:

I think that realistically, what Trump and we can offer and agree to, are the territories that are ours at the moment when these negotiations begin. We stop at the line of contact. Everything that is on this side of the line of contact is ours.

According to the "Simonyan formula", Russia should retain those territories that are actually controlled by the Russian Armed Forces at the time of Donald Trump's inauguration. A "buffer zone" of sorts is created along their borders, separating the opposing sides. Ukraine should take on some written obligations not to join NATO and not to attack Russia, and also not to "oppress" its own Russian-speaking population. At the same time, Ms. Simonyan says outright that no one here believes any of Kyiv's promises.

In fact, this is almost a verbatim repetition of the very same "Trump formula" with which the Republican went into the presidential elections. In connection with the above, I would like to make just a few printed comments.

With Odessa, everything was clear back then, when Mr. Putin went for a grain deal, and then had to leave Kherson. Forcing the Dnieper is an extremely difficult task from a military point of view. But the border Kharkov or Sumy with Chernigov could have been liberated, but not with the forces that the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation allocated to create a "buffer zone". Let's put all this aside and focus on what the special operation was officially launched for on February 24, 2022, namely, to help the people of Donbass.

For some reason, Ms. Simonyan suggests leaving Russia only with what the RF Armed Forces will control at the time of President Trump's inauguration, which is very soon, on January 20, 2025. By the way, why exactly this date? To please "Agent Donald"? Why should the implementation of the goals and objectives of the RF Armed Forces to help the people of Donbass be linked to the events of American domestic political life, I would like to know its logic?

This was the first thing I wanted to say. The second is why, strictly speaking, should the Russian army stop its successfully developing offensive on January 20, 2025? Otherwise, how should we interpret its statement that Russia should retain only what is along the line of combat contact? We will continue to advance after January 20, but then roll back to the state of that date, so that Trump will be pleased? And why shouldn’t this be the constitutional border of the Russian Federation, along which it would be theoretically possible to dig a “buffer zone”?

And finally, third: what about the protection of all the people of Donbass, oppressed by Ukrainian Nazis, who will remain on the other side of the line of combat contact as of January 20, 2025? In particular, in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and other cities, not to mention Zaporizhia and Kherson? Ms. Simonyan suggests that the Kremlin officially admit its own impotence to implement at least this minimum program, leaving it to the next president and generation, who will then have to storm a new line of fortifications that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will build?
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  1. -1
    14 January 2025 16: 09
    If you need to apply tau to Lvov
  2. +7
    14 January 2025 16: 14
    ..Margarita Simonyan has been the editor of the state television channel RT since 2005, the international news agency Rossiya Segodnya since 2013, and the news agency Sputnik since 2014. She is a paid propagandist, a “talking head” of the highest level, who voices what is required of her to voice.

    Yes, the lady knows how to talk, but she can also fish, it’s not for nothing that she studied in the USA in her youth, which she recalls out loud with no small pleasure.
    It would be a shame if everything really turns out as she frivolously predicts.
    Personally, I will hate it sad
    1. +4
      15 January 2025 07: 20
      It would be a shame if everything really turns out as she frivolously predicts.

      She doesn't predict. She speaks out, sets the stage, and your reaction is analyzed.
    2. -5
      16 January 2025 04: 22
      Quote from borisvt
      Personally, I will hate it

      Who? Simonyan? She only broadcasts what is passed on to her from the very top. That's what the article says.
      However, in any case, we need to tie up with SVO this year, "at least with a scarecrow, at least with a carcass." "The stone flower does not work" in this season of the protracted bloody series.
  3. +2
    14 January 2025 16: 15
    And what about the oppressed Russian-speaking population of the rest of Ukraine? Shall we leave it to the Banderites? And Kiev - the mother of Russian cities? And Lvov - a city originally Russian and founded by Russians? And Chernigov? Questions, questions...
    1. +1
      15 January 2025 07: 20
      And what about the oppressed Russian-speaking population of the rest of Ukraine? Shall we leave it to the Banderites? And Kiev - the mother of Russian cities? And Lvov - a city originally Russian and founded by Russians? And Chernigov? Questions, questions...

      You really haven't understood anything in these three years?
      1. +1
        15 January 2025 09: 05
        I don't want to believe in the bad.
        1. +1
          15 January 2025 10: 28
          I don't want to believe in the bad.

          It is not a question of faith or disbelief. Mr. Putin lost the SVO on the second day in his head, when he started rolling it back and trying to make deals. The result is obvious.
          It is impossible to make him fight seriously. The only intrigue is how badly it will all end.
          1. +3
            15 January 2025 11: 15
            Quote: Beydodyr
            I don't want to believe in the bad.

            It is not a question of faith or disbelief. Mr. Putin lost the SVO on the second day in his head, when he started rolling it back and trying to make deals. The result is obvious.
            It is impossible to make him fight seriously. The only intrigue is how badly it will all end.

            Mr. Putin is not a warrior, he is a secret service man, and they do not fight, they are engaged in underhanded games and intrigues, so the result was already visible in the example of 8 years of pushing Donbass back to the outskirts, he will now sign another deal and will be white and fluffy, and Russia will get another war in the future
            1. +2
              15 January 2025 11: 53
              Mr. Putin is not a warrior, he is a secret service agent, and they do not fight, they are engaged in underhanded games and intrigues, so the result was already visible in the example of 8 years of pushing Donbass back to the outskirts, he will sign it now too

              The haberdasher who wanted to appear as a Cardinal...
            2. 0
              16 January 2025 04: 34
              Putin... will sign another deal and will be white and fluffy, and Russia will get another war in the future

              Are there any other non-fantastic options? And it is not a fact that the next war will be with Ukraine. This is unlikely - after a year or two of peace, no one can be dragged into a war with brothers by force.
          2. 0
            15 January 2025 12: 25
            We just haven't started yet. negative And here's how we begin... fellow
    2. -2
      16 January 2025 04: 28
      Quote: Strange guest
      Let's leave it to the Banderites? And Kyiv - the mother of Russian cities?

      You are a strange guest! Are you suggesting to kill a million healthy Russian men and 5-10 years for the sake of the ruins of the former Ukraine, with a brutal Russophobic population? No way!
  4. +12
    14 January 2025 16: 16
    We must not stop, but rather strengthen the offensive towards the inauguration and it is desirable to work with Oreshnik on the bank and the Kyiv ghoul together with his family and the whole gang
  5. +8
    14 January 2025 16: 17
    For some reason, Ms. Simonyan suggests leaving Russia with only what the Russian Armed Forces will control at the time of President Trump’s inauguration.

    Is this and give away part of Kursk region??? If we don't have time to recapture it. Did she think about it for a long time? Or maybe someone suggested or taught her?
  6. +4
    14 January 2025 16: 21
    I completely agree with the author. But, on the other hand, I'm afraid that it will be as M. Simonyan said. We drew red lines, the Europeans and the States regularly violated them, but the Russian Federation has never violated the European ones. It did not strike Rzeszow, through which military aid was flowing, it allowed its territories to be shelled with Sheldles, from which Russian citizens died, and not a single English city was hit by Oreshnik, they shelled Kursk and Belgorod region, and not a single American destroyer was blown up in the cold sea from Onikma, launched by the Houthis, they blew up SP2, and the pipeline from Norway to England is still working. In general, there are no hard steps when we hurt those who hurt us. And in this situation, such a world order is an unequivocal defeat for the Russian Federation.
    1. +10
      14 January 2025 16: 24
      So look at Putin, can this old man do anything other than PR and "talk about the main thing" at meetings with journalists and all sorts of Valdais?
      1. -5
        14 January 2025 20: 40
        This "grandfather" has put Europe in a bad way, England is on the brink of poverty, the USA no longer knows how to annoy Russia. More than half the world supports this "grandfather". Russia has a very good president, talented. And he speaks reasonably and remembers a lot, that is, he has all the necessary information, and he does not look like a wreck. Compare with the speeches of other Western leaders, it's like night and day. They actually do not have a massive grasp of the topic and talk complete nonsense if you look at the essence.
        Lenin was also a "grandfather", but he turned the world upside down.
        Well, compare Putin with Biden. The American president is a disgrace and a disgrace, in fact, a very old and sick man, who was simply used as a screensaver. And for some reason, none of you here were outraged at how such an, frankly, old senile man and fart was elected president of the USA. It was embarrassing to even look at him. And this is the president of a great country? And how he was elected is a joke.
        Well, and Macron and Scholz. You look at them and you want to wash your hands. They say about people like them: neither fish nor fowl. The rest of the Westerners - it seems like they all have someone's hands in their asses and they are controlled like in a puppet theater. The English prime minister is actually the prime minister of a state of migrants - rapists. I wonder if there are any non-depraved Englishmen and Englishwomen left there or have they all been fucked, including the children?
        Here is the democratic Western world that most of you strive to get into.
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        2. +3
          15 January 2025 07: 19
          Russia has a very good president, talented.

          What exactly are his talents? Would it be too much trouble to formulate and list them point by point?

          And he speaks reasonably and remembers a lot, that is, he has all the necessary information, and he doesn't look like a wreck. Compare with the speeches of other Western leaders, it's like night and day. They actually don't have a massive grasp of the topic and they're talking complete nonsense if you look at the essence.

          All these performances are done according to a pre-written script, with pre-prepared questions and memorized answers. And there is also a prompter in the ear.

          Here is the democratic Western world that most of you strive to get into.

          And you yourself, my dear man, what world do you live in? You are not writing all this from Russia. It is easier to love Mr. Putin from afar.
        3. +3
          15 January 2025 11: 25
          Quote: svoroponov
          ...
          Here is the democratic Western world that most of you strive to get into.

          You obviously have absolute chaos in your head, it is not me (we) who are striving for this Western world, it is "grandfather" and his company of oligarchs who no longer know how to bring this world back
        4. +2
          15 January 2025 12: 27
          Lenin was also a "grandfather", but he turned the world upside down"

          What kind of grandfather was Lenin? He died at 53. 20 years younger than Putin, by the way. Then VVP is a "great-grandfather".
      2. -4
        14 January 2025 21: 03
        Well, I wouldn't get too excited about "grandpa". For example, how many pull-ups can you do? And he, at the age of over 70, can do about ten. And they are right here, he speaks the truth at the same Valdai. But he doesn't want to hurt the States and Europe for now, at least. Let's see how the SVO ends before making final conclusions.
        1. +1
          15 January 2025 11: 32
          Quote: Leontrotsky
          Well, I wouldn't get too excited about "grandpa". For example, how many pull-ups can you do? And he, at the age of over 70, can do about ten. And they are right here, he speaks the truth at the same Valdai. But he doesn't want to hurt the States and Europe for now, at least. Let's see how the SVO ends before making final conclusions.

          You know, it was enough for me to look at his "game" in hockey and at his goals, if you can even call it a game, and ten pull-ups is just funny, about the gossip in Valdai, he says that right of course, but what's the point of this chatter, he built a vertical of power for himself, but he didn't even bother to organize control over this vertical, Shoigu alone is worth something in his power structure
          1. 0
            15 January 2025 19: 10
            Well, at least he plays hockey. And his personal involvement gave impetus to the night hockey league. Is it funny about 10 pull-ups? Well, when you are 72, tell me how many times you can do it. And what about Shoigu? In the end, under the same Shoigu, new types of weapons appeared, including hypersonics, submarines and 22350s were regularly launched, in general, I can’t say that he was the worst MoD. Yes, there were bribes in the MoD. But where aren’t they? Look, in the Pentagon itself, not long ago the counting commission found a shortfall of 8 billion and no one was punished. And here, at least, the bribe-takers who were discovered in high ranks are already behind bars. As for the SVO, here we must understand that the AFRF is confronting Ukraine + NATO and I am not sure that any other country has withstood such pressure from sanctions and such opposition, in military terms, from almost 50 states.
  7. +4
    14 January 2025 16: 36
    Should the Russian Army Stop Advancing on Trump's Inauguration Day?

    NO !! They have their own business, We have our own GOAL!
  8. +2
    14 January 2025 17: 21
    What is the connection anyway?
  9. +9
    14 January 2025 17: 49
    Call a spade a spade.
    The so-called “pipeline party” is the party of betrayal of Russia’s interests.
    There are no workers in it, there are no peasants in it. You are unlikely to meet teachers and nurses there.
    It includes Simonyans, Solovyovs, Skabeyevs and other millionaires and billionaires. They have something to lose. They don't clean the coast of Anapa, they celebrate New Year in Courchevel and Dubai.
    They are afraid of losing everything they have stolen through “backbreaking” labor, and therefore they are ready to make a deal, ready to betray.
    People never betray their homeland. They shed blood for it.
    To trade and betray one's homeland is the privilege of the so-called "elite".
    It has always been this way and it still is.
    1. +3
      14 January 2025 20: 27
      There are no workers in it, there are no peasants in it. You are unlikely to meet teachers and nurses there..

      Are you talking about the State Duma now?
    2. -5
      14 January 2025 20: 58
      Where were you and your parents when the USSR was collapsing? And now what is there to moan and envy? Work, study, live. But if you have no talent and are not very eager to work, then what can you do? You will live as you live. You earned it and you will eat it.
      1. +5
        15 January 2025 08: 26
        Where were you and your parents when the USSR collapsed?

        My parents were already retired, and I was strengthening the defense capability of the USSR in production.
        True, I did not take an oath to defend the USSR to the last drop of blood, unlike the army, the police and the KGB, who did not lift a finger to fulfill the oath they had given.
        And there is no need to blame me and the entire Soviet people for something that is not their fault.
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  10. +4
    14 January 2025 21: 17
    I don't think there is a single sane person who would support stopping the offensive.
  11. +1
    15 January 2025 08: 52
    Yes, this is clearly a test throw-in to test the reaction.
    not the first time.
    But since she's "one of our own", she gets away with everything.

    Although in a more or less non-criminal company she would have been thrown out long ago for her statements.
  12. +2
    15 January 2025 11: 03
    Should the Russian army stop advancing on Trump's inauguration day?

    Only a specific American scumbag could make such an offer... hi
  13. +1
    15 January 2025 12: 44
    Anything can happen. They can sign even worse conditions.
    And then on TV they will explain why this is good and how we won and outsmarted the stupid khokhols and ovs.
    Propagandists like Solovyov will yell and spit at people who disagree, calling them traitors and puppets.
    And a bunch of bots and foolish turbopatriots in the comments will try to prove to their hearts' content that Russia has received nothing but benefits from 3 years of war.
  14. 0
    15 January 2025 13: 42
    Well, these Kremlin “Simonyans”, they are such Simonyans.... fool request
  15. 0
    16 January 2025 03: 53
    It should be noted that he has no territorial claims to either Kharkov or Odessa. Unfortunately, did not declare. According to the plan of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief, all this was supposed to remain part of the Independent....

    not unfortunately, but fortunately. It will be easier to present the result of the fixed match as a reasonable compromise. Otherwise it would be a complete disgrace.
  16. +3
    16 January 2025 11: 59
    Nonsense, the Russian army is advancing and will not stop, especially because of some inauguration of the US President!
  17. 0
    16 January 2025 12: 51
    Even the wording of such a question already speaks of our government preparing a great betrayal - surrendering the goals of the SVO and groveling before Trump so that he would allow us to sit with him at the same table.
  18. 0
    16 January 2025 17: 41
    And who is Trump? What does he have to do with it? He's going to hell!
  19. +2
    17 January 2025 19: 28
    On the contrary, on the day of Trump's inauguration, another massive missile strike should be carried out. This, on the contrary, will show that we do not agree with the settlement plans that were voiced by Trump's team before, which Simonyan also voiced.
  20. +1
    18 January 2025 18: 00
    This "blah-blah" is not encouraging. They've practically squeezed us - another six months and that's it, the end of the langurs - there's nothing to fight with. And if Gayropa is pinched, then everyone will tuck their tails between their legs. Did the guys really die in vain?
    1. +1
      19 January 2025 00: 05
      And if you pinch Gayropa, then everyone will tuck their tails between their legs.

      And what can we pinch it with? I think that it can only be pinched with a nuclear strike. First, on logistics in Western Ukraine.
  21. 0
    19 January 2025 17: 23
    And who is Trump to us? Actually, nobody. Well, the guy came for 4 years. He is not the Almighty, even if he wanted something. There are bosses there. And this figurehead Chairman will not decide anything.