Nuclear cruiser Admiral Nakhimov is ready and heading out for testing

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Nuclear cruiser Admiral Nakhimov is ready and heading out for testing

One of the longest-running projects to modernize the combat surface fleet is entering the home stretch. Today, the cruiser Admiral Nakhimov began its factory sea trials.

Today, the warship will begin to undergo a winding-free demagnetization station at Sevmash. A number of important technological measures will be taken here to increase the cruiser's stealth. After demagnetization, the main program of sea trials will begin. During the events, the parameters and operating modes of the main power plant, steering gear, navigation aids, and other units and elements of the Admiral Nakhimov will be checked.



The cruiser has been undergoing repairs and modernization for almost 15 years, with real work beginning in 2013. According to initial plans, the ship was to be commissioned into the Russian Navy in 2022. Judging by the trials that have begun, Admiral Nakhimov will be commissioned next year.

As a result of the modernization, the ship will significantly increase its striking power, primarily due to the placement of the Zircon ship-based hypersonic missiles on it. The cruiser should also receive the most modern air defense systems and other cutting-edge equipment.
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  1. Vladimir Tuzakov
    Vladimir Tuzakov
    +2
    6 December 2024 19: 22
    They renovated an expensive long-term construction project, now they hide it far away, to Kamchatka, not closer... Conclusion: Anecdote:

    In the kindergarten, - children, let's buy an elephant. All together, - let's bring an elephant to our kindergarten. And so do our strategists: give us one mammoth.

    (cruiser)...
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39
    +6
    6 December 2024 19: 56
    These cruisers served and serve in the Northern Fleet, they will be based there and there is no need to carry "nonsense". They modernized, yes, it took a long time, yes, they poured in money! But, the result is the same - they got a powerful combat unit, which will become the center of the KPUG!!!
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov
      Vladimir Tuzakov
      -5
      7 December 2024 00: 05
      Well, yes, it will become the center, but only of what and whom. The surface composition of the formidable KPUG, from what?, - a lonely mammoth on a long journey...
      1. JD1979
        JD1979
        +5
        7 December 2024 02: 28
        Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
        What does the formidable KPUG surface composition consist of?

        1. Freshly painted Wunderwaffe - 1 pc.
        2. Tanker - 1 pc.
        3. Tugboat - 1 pc.
        4. 636 - 1 pc
        5,6, etc. - any exhibits of the Pacific Floating Museum.
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39
          +1
          7 December 2024 11: 38
          Another "all is lost". For the blind and deaf. The Northern Fleet consists of 3 frigates 22350, 1 destroyer 956,3, 1155 large anti-submarine ship 1, 1164 cruiser 1. Modernization into a frigate is being completed XNUMX large anti-submarine ship "Admiral Chebonenko".
          1-2 submarines (the fleet consists of 8 operational boats). These are the ships that will be part of the KPUG.
          1. JD1979
            JD1979
            +2
            7 December 2024 13: 00
            Quote: Sergey39
            These are the ships that will be part of the KPUG.

            It doesn't matter what goes in there. This "iron KaPUT" can and will find only problems for his iron Z. There can be no other reality of the Russian toy fleet.
            If you doubt it, you probably missed the latest Russian blockbuster "Escape from the Navy Base 2 - From Syria with Love")))
            P.S.: 1155 - Trash. No air defense. 1164 - Trash. No air defense. 956 - Trash. No air defense. Only 3 pieces of 22350 remain, which if they leave together with Orlan, KUG for normal stability need at least 3-4 guided missile ships, then the base can be closed, and the rest of the trash can be welded to the pier. Without land-based air defense, they are defenseless.
            1. Ales
              Ales
              +2
              8 December 2024 15: 31
              In my understanding, any fleet is funny if it is fighting a trained enemy. Where have you seen the US fleet in a confrontation with a serious enemy? And here there is only one criterion, and that is whether there is a will to fight the enemy fleet. We, without fear (and with the support of NATO) are resisted quite effectively. And we do not even try to put the US fleet in a state of retaliation, even with the use of intermediaries.
              1. JD1979
                JD1979
                0
                8 December 2024 19: 42
                Quote: Ales
                In my opinion, any fleet is funny if it is fighting against a prepared enemy.

                So what kind of enemy should it actually be? Any fleet and the ideology of its staffing should be based on the fact that the enemy will be prepared, otherwise the expectation of a freebie can lead to what happened to the Black Sea Fleet.

                Quote: Ales
                Where have you seen the US Navy in a confrontation with a serious adversary?

                So they have a task that they successfully carry out: the US Navy must be superior to any fleet.

                Quote: Ales
                And here there is only one criterion: is there the will to fight the enemy fleet?

                Well, this is a criterion for either suicides or a hopeless situation.

                Quote: Ales
                We are being confronted quite effectively, without fear (and with NATO support).

                And what is there to be afraid of if they understand perfectly well that the entire floating madhouse is nothing and can do practically nothing to attackers, neither destroy the delivery vehicles nor the weapons themselves. And the calibers that the entire Ministry of Defense jerks off to are dangerous only for stationary ground targets and ships))) Well, since neither the delivery vehicles nor the weapons themselves are related to the first, and they actually don't have the second, then what is there to be afraid of?
                This is what makes the Russian Navy funny - a defenseless club that is also senselessly useless.
                1. Ales
                  Ales
                  0
                  8 December 2024 23: 42
                  We have the means to destroy US ships, but our fleet has no means to combat the ghost fleet - the backs. And coastal anti-ship systems are not our specialty - we did not plan to seize land.
                  1. JD1979
                    JD1979
                    0
                    9 December 2024 22: 02
                    Quote: Ales
                    We have the means to destroy US ships, but our fleet has no means to combat the ghost fleet - the Backs.

                    Rather, we have no modern means of combating anti-ship missiles, unmanned combat vehicles, and submarines, with the exception of a few modern ships.

                    Quote: Ales
                    And coastal anti-ship systems are not our specialty - we did not plan to seize land.

                    And what does this have to do with coastal anti-ship missiles (which, by the way, are a purely defensive system), which are our specificity, since they are some of the best in our country and the seizure of lands?
                    1. Ales
                      Ales
                      0
                      10 December 2024 01: 04
                      So what was Moscow sunk with? Neptune.
                      1. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        +2
                        10 December 2024 23: 45
                        Quote: Ales
                        So what was Moscow sunk with? Neptune.

                        Well, where was it sunk? Off whose shores, ours or Ukraine's?)) The BRK is a 100% defensive weapon. Against attack ships, against landing troops and simply for controlling the water area. And the fact that the Black Sea Fleet flagship was posing as a target off foreign shores is not a problem with the classification of weapons, but a problem with the brains of those who decided to send the ship there.
            2. Sergey39
              Sergey39
              +1
              10 December 2024 19: 57
              Garbage in your head, against the backdrop of a blockbuster.
              Amateur! Study the performance characteristics of all ships and their purpose. Look at the years of modernization.
              1. JD1979
                JD1979
                -1
                10 December 2024 23: 40
                Quote: Sergey39
                Amateur! Study the performance characteristics of all ships and their purpose.

                I studied, watched, what next? They still aren't trash. If you're burning up, take some valerian and go through the 5 stages of accepting reality))
              2. Vladimir1155
                Vladimir1155
                0
                14 December 2024 10: 00
                The performance characteristics of all ships can be classified into categories
                1 useless troughs intended for cutting up budgets and provisions, 1135 956 Varangian Kuzya
                2 submarine ships (frigates, corvettes of all types of small anti-ship missiles) have the purpose of submarines around submarine bases, but for some reason they are located where there are no submarines, which means that all frigates, corvettes in closed seas can be safely classified as the first category of useless troughs, targets prepared by admirals for disgrace in Tsushima, although they could be useful on the ocean
                3 mrks, which turned out to be conceptually outdated against the background of the capabilities of coastal missiles, aviation and drones
                4 minesweepers are needed, but there are almost none
                5 submarines are the main force of the fleet, it needs to be developed
                6 Ustinov that has undergone modernization... will serve for a few more years and will move into the first category of unnecessary tubs
                7 Peter is scheduled for decommissioning, most likely not combat ready
                8 Nakhimov - will serve for 20 years as the only cruiser and first-rank UAV ship in the Navy, for parades, for pictures, for anti-aircraft and anti-aircraft defense in the Barents Sea
            3. Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155
              0
              14 December 2024 10: 25
              1155 is not garbage, they are modernizing, their goal is plo, they are doing it under the cover of coastal aviation or under the umbrella of Nakhimov air defense
              1. JD1979
                JD1979
                0
                14 December 2024 14: 55
                Well... let's figure it out.

                Quote: vladimir1155
                his goal is plane, he carries it out under the cover of coastal aviation or under the umbrella of Nakhimov air defense

                So you are saying that a 1st rank ship, i.e. its operational region is the open ocean, sits under the cover of coastal aviation and the only Nakhimov?))) And is Nakhimov enough for all 1155s?)) Well, that is, you yourself confirmed that this is TRASH.)) A 1st rank ship that has on board only self-defense systems, and the Kinzhal (with missiles from the Thor) and the ZAK 630th - to fight off weapons, but in no way to destroy anti-ship missile carriers, is absolutely defenseless against the main striking force of our opponents, whose aviation will, as in exercises, fire anti-ship missiles from a distance of 100+ km, until it sends the ship to the bottom.
                1. Vladimir1155
                  Vladimir1155
                  0
                  14 December 2024 15: 25
                  Dear Dmitry, let's figure it out, in the north where Nakhimov there are only 4 of them, we consider one always in the remotnet, that is, three, it turns out a submarine, a cruiser and three 1155s, and you forgot about coastal aviation, the difference between the ocean and the Black, Baltic and Japanese seas is that it cannot be reached by coastal missiles, but .... so that foreign ships can approach Petropavlovsk or Murmansk at 100-300 kilometers, I will say more at 1000 kilometers, ... our radars see them and coastal MRA aviation is needed, and it sinks any ship that enters the 1000 km zone from the submarine base, and it is in this zone that our frigates and corvettes submarines operate safely, aviation is an umbrella for our frigates, including 1155 ... there and Nakhimov is not really needed if there are daggers and coastal aircraft
                  2 enemy submarines are dangerous of course in the same zone 1000 km from the base for their search and destruction, frigates and corvettes submarines, submarine aircraft (almost none left) and underwater tracking systems are needed... all these means are called upon to ensure the safe exit of submarines into the open ocean, where they can no longer be found and, consequently, an unexpected nuclear strike from under the water on a potential enemy encroaching on our sacred land, it is for this most important task that all frigates and corvettes uselessly dangling in closed seas, defenseless targets, need to be brought out to the oceans
                  1. JD1979
                    JD1979
                    0
                    14 December 2024 20: 52
                    Quote: vladimir1155
                    let's understand

                    Well, let's go)))

                    Quote: vladimir1155
                    in the north where is Nakhimov

                    Yes, even 20 Nakhimovs and 1155x + 10 Kuz)))

                    Quote: vladimir1155
                    you forgot about coastal aviation, the difference between the ocean and the Black Sea, the Baltic Sea and the Sea of ​​Japan is that it cannot be reached by coastal missiles, but.... in order for foreign ships to be able to approach Petropavlovsk or Murmansk at 100-300 kilometers, I would say more at 1000 kilometers,...

                    I never forgot about...))) school geography lessons and that we live on planet Earth and not on the globe of Ukraine))) forgive Russia, where it is like Atlantis alone in the boundless ocean and from unknown distances ships from a distant, distant galaxy sail to it for thousands of kilometers)))
                    Dude... Where the Russian coastline ends, the coastlines of not only NATO countries begin, which have UPS!!! They have their own coastal missile systems, their own aviation, their own AWACS and ELINT aircraft, electronic warfare, tankers, anti-submarine warfare, etc. And we are not even talking about 1000 km from the base, it would be good if they don't sink you before leaving the 20-mile zone. What kind of beast is coastal aviation? Naval aviation flies over the seas, which we don't actually have, there are Su-33s from Kuzya and a hodgepodge of Su-30s together with Su-27s without tankers, without AWACS and ELINT.

                    Quote: vladimir1155
                    all these means are designed to ensure the safe exit of the submarine into the open ocean, where they will no longer be found, and therefore an unexpected nuclear strike from under the water against a potential enemy encroaching on our sacred land,

                    What nonsense ....
                    1. Vladimir1155
                      Vladimir1155
                      0
                      14 December 2024 21: 34
                      Quote: JD1979
                      a hodgepodge of Su-30s and Su-27s

                      with a range of 3000 km? is that enough

                      from the coastlines of Kamchatka to the Aleutian Islands is really close, but there are no naval bases and airfields there and the Aleutian Islands themselves can be hit with the destruction of American tracking systems, so the ocean is big and from Murmansk to the nearest NATO base Setermoen Olaversen is also far from the enemy, though less than 1000 km, so I think the fleet should be moved closer to Arkhangelsk, naturally the Norwegian bases are also hit, aka the Aleutian ones, because it turned out that their main Patriot air defense system is worthless, are you really sure that the war will take into account economic territorial and other legal boundaries at sea? if these are closed sea areas, where it is really close to the enemy's naval bases, then the fleet is not needed there at all ... your nonsense about sea borders and economic zones in war reminded me of the movie

                      1. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        0
                        14 December 2024 21: 53
                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        with a range of 3000 km? is that enough

                        One way?)) kamikaze style?

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        from the coastlines of Kamchatka to the Aleutian Islands is really close, but there are no naval bases or airfields there and the Aleutian Islands themselves can be hit with the destruction of American tracking systems

                        Why the Aleutian Islands when there are large air bases in Alaska?))

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        Naturally, the Norwegian bases are also hit, aka the Aleutian ones, because it turned out that their main Patriot air defense system is no good,

                        Well, who argues, they are amazed, but they are burned exclusively by Kinjads and other super-fast, because the "worthless" Patriot (and what other ones are there?) suddenly works very well on targets that fit into the range of intercepted targets)) and these are calibers, X-s, and other slow-moving targets. Especially if it is tied to an AWACS aircraft, which gives it a targeting designation for low-flying targets, which Ukraine does not have. But our analogous S-400 begins to work on the same targets like some kind of Pantsir from a little over 30 km. and quite calmly intercepts with its radar and launchers another missile that has overflown the guidance channels.

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        Are you really sure that the war will take into account economic, territorial and other legal boundaries at sea?

                        Are you really sure that it is not? At least its beginning and the debut now actually decides the outcome. Or are you again solving the spherical problem about the knight and the vacuum?))) where everything appears suddenly and mixed up?)))

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        your nonsense about sea borders and economic zones in war reminded me of a movie

                        watch it again)) and reread what you wrote))) your vision of reality is further from reality itself than star wars))
                      2. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155
                        0
                        14 December 2024 22: 00
                        if you are exchanging nuclear strikes, then the submarines should already be patrolling in the areas of California, Washington and the Arctic Ocean, and not going to deployment areas.... and how wide do you think the Pacific Ocean is from Alaska to the Rybachiy Peninsula? Is it really that close? I'm not an expert on the reliability of the Patriots, I just see how ours wiped them all out.... you seem to blindly bow to the West, and I saw the vaunted Abrams burnt out and all their weapons are crap IMHO... and we'll sink all their aircraft carriers, let them just stick their noses in, we're not Serbs or Libyans...
                        https://yandex.ru/video/preview/478114591405540387
                      3. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        0
                        14 December 2024 22: 22
                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        nonsense!

                        I agree)) you're delirious, get off whatever you're sitting on

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        if you are on the exchange of nuclear strikes then the submarines for this should already be parachuting in the areas of California Washington and the Arctic Ocean and not entering the areas of expansion.... and how wide is the Pacific Ocean from Alaska to the Rybachy Peninsula in your opinion? Is it really that close?

                        oh my god, what kind of substance is in your head... it's like 2024... okay, skip the nonsense of this last one and get back to what I meant when I wrote about the borders. Dear person from the moon, mars or wherever else you are from... it just so happened that on our Earth you can't feed us honey, but let us shoot at each other, but since everyone understands everything, they delay using every possible means the use of the last argument of kings if... there is no way this argument has been knocked out of the enemy. So, for almost a century now, all the same conventional means have been used, and sudden blindness and super-elastic red lines appear in response to seemingly obvious casus belli. And therefore, with 1000% probability, the next conflict will begin with... a dispatch of conventional aircraft and all kinds of missiles to say hello to potential victims. And what is our very likely scenario in the same north? Well, if it will be like in Kursk, when the intelligence sat with their eyes closed. That is, from a distance not of 1000 km but much closer, about 400, from the Rovaniemi airport, wizards will fly in and cover Vidyayevo and Severomorsk and Gadzhiyevo and Murmansk and the entire Northern Fleet to boot. And even if the takeoff is detected, it will still be of little help. Because it will be presented under the guise of exercises. And how we can intercept low-flying targets can be told by the Black Sea Fleet headquarters. Of course, they know about it))) hypersonic is hypersonic, but a mass attack of cruise missiles at low altitude can only be disrupted by echeloned air defense together with AWACS and nothing else, there are already enough examples of how it was otherwise. And you continue to believe your nonsense about 1000 km and that the Russian fleet is something other than floating targets.
                      4. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155
                        0
                        14 December 2024 22: 26
                        Quote: JD1979
                        A massive low-altitude cruise missile attack can only be thwarted by layered air defense together with AWACS

                        apart from this true statement, everything you wrote is nonsense, it is necessary to naturally create echeloned air defense around submarine bases, no one doubts it
                      5. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        0
                        14 December 2024 22: 28
                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        apart from this true statement, everything you wrote is nonsense,

                        that is, you admit that there is no air defense and I am right)) but you continue to try to make black look white and nonsense))) rewatch the film)))
                      6. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155
                        0
                        14 December 2024 22: 35
                        You are writing nonsense! Unbelievable! Where did I write that there is no air defense, electronic warfare, or air defense? I wrote that it is important and needs to be developed and improved! Don't distort things, if you lose in a fair dispute, don't stoop to obvious lies! Better double down
                      7. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        -1
                        14 December 2024 23: 36
                        Dude, you're really getting on my nerves with the fact that you don't know anything and simply forget the essence of the dialogue and who wrote what. That's where your problems with "nonsense, delirium and fantasies" come from. This is all yours and not mine.
                      8. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155
                        0
                        15 December 2024 19: 01
                        it is clear, you perished in an unequal struggle, your arguments dried up before my indisputable arguments and correctness, my teaching is omnipotent because it is true, there are only two opinions: mine and the wrong one tongue
                      9. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155
                        0
                        14 December 2024 22: 41
                        Quote: JD1979
                        And therefore, with 1000% probability, the next conflict will begin with... sending conventional aircraft and all kinds of missiles to say hello to potential victims

                        nonsense, you yourself are entangled in your lies!

                        you wrote it

                        at least its beginning and the debut now actually decides the outcome. and

                        so explain when you wrote a lie and when it was real?

                        1 var start conventional
                        2 var sudden disarming nuclear strikes
                        from two values ​​you need to choose one and sort out the mess in your head and your contradictory ideas
                      10. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        -1
                        14 December 2024 23: 35
                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        nonsense, you yourself are entangled in your lies!

                        you wrote it

                        sir, you are lost... in everything)) time, space and your own delirious fantasies. you can't keep up with your thoughts)))
                        Where I wrote about:

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        war sudden disarming nuclear strikes

                        This is your nonsense)))
                        Before you make a clown of yourself, ask Google, Yandex or GPT what DEBUT is, ok? Because for example, the debut of the SVO was the landing in Gostomel, yeah!))) and where are your nuclear strikes?)))
                2. Vladimir1155
                  Vladimir1155
                  0
                  14 December 2024 15: 33
                  Quote: JD1979
                  ship of the 1st rank, i.e. its operational region is the open ocean

                  Where did you get that from? Yes, the ocean, yes, open, but only no further than 1000-3300 km from the base under the umbrella of coastal aviation
                  1. JD1979
                    JD1979
                    -1
                    14 December 2024 20: 43
                    Quote: vladimir1155
                    Where did you get that from? Yes, the ocean, yes, open, but only no further than 1000-3300 km from the base under the umbrella of coastal aviation

                    Seriously?)))) No further? And 1000 than coastal, or rather not coastal, but very much naval aviation, which... oops no. will be able to help fly in an hour to photograph the wreckage?) I don't even know what's in your head... only spherical horses in a vacuum. Buy yourself a globe or something and draw on it what is where.
                    1. Vladimir1155
                      Vladimir1155
                      0
                      14 December 2024 21: 04
                      why in an hour, ? enemy planes and ships are visible from radars and satellites for 3000 km, planes take off on a mission in 5 minutes and hit the enemy before he meets the frigates of the submarine... there are also missiles
                      1. JD1979
                        JD1979
                        0
                        14 December 2024 21: 13
                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        why, after an hour, enemy planes and ships are visible from radars and satellites 3000 km away,

                        When did they cancel the radio horizon))) and the Earth became flat?)))

                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        the planes take off on a mission in 5 minutes and hit the enemy before it meets the frigates of the submarine... there are still missiles

                        How so?))) Teleportation was invented? Or Harry Potter will fly in on a broom with a magic wand?
                      2. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155
                        0
                        14 December 2024 21: 43
                        Quote: JD1979
                        When did they cancel the radio horizon))) and the Earth became flat?)))

                        the earth is flat only in your MZGU and the radio horizon was cancelled when enough satellites were launched, the A100 was invented, especially since it is unlikely that a lone frigate will attack our coastal waters, and the slow-moving armada of the OUT is tracked in real time, without it, American planes will not reach us.... the air defense between Murmansk and Norway can be made quite effective because this is our land with the S-400, the Pantsirs, so it is difficult for the enemy to hit the ocean bases of the Navy, this is not Baltiysk, where the admirals prepared the entire Baltic Fleet for an inglorious death, and not Vladivostok... so we must control the water area of ​​1000 km around the submarine bases and not build all sorts of Kuzis... the speed of American planes is no greater than ours B52 are generally slow-moving, which means that if they are detected 2000 km away, they can be met 1000 away if your arithmetic is bad there is no way to help I can, and I don't approve of your ideas about teleportation, and ships are generally slow compared to aircraft, an airplane will arrive faster and protect them from the Arleigh Burke destroyers
  3. GN
    GN
    +19
    7 December 2024 02: 48
    And what about the cruiser "Moscow"? Has anyone answered for this? And where is the entire Black Sea Fleet? Why do we need a fleet that cannot defend itself? Why does Ukraine still sell grain and receive weapons via the Black Sea? And there are a ton of such questions. But that is of course different!
    1. dvv1951
      dvv1951
      +2
      7 December 2024 14: 03
      Moscow Center in NATO since 1985
    2. Ales
      Ales
      0
      8 December 2024 15: 40
      Where are the Poseidons? Why aren't they on enemy submarine routes, with automatic detonation when the enemy passes over a Poseidon in ambush. What's wrong? It happens. It's just a situation that got out of control, and a British SSBN on combat duty was destroyed, and the submarines at their deployment sites can catch up.
  4. anyname
    anyname
    +7
    7 December 2024 04: 51
    And did they place machine guns and small artillery on it to humiliate the non-armored soldiers? Or will the soldiers again become smarter with their butts?
  5. sidorov
    sidorov
    +9
    7 December 2024 06: 18
    To the terror of the enemy, the Russian Federation now has two missile cruisers...
    Can fire "Zircon" at Europe. Up to 1 thousand km.

    But you can fire like that from a land-based base, and it is dangerous for this miracle of technology to sail far. After all, God forbid it happens like with the "Moscow"....
  6. AC130 Gunship
    AC130 Gunship
    0
    7 December 2024 06: 39
    A project from the distant 70s.
    Years pass, military doctrines change. "Solo Voyage" was a good action movie from the early 80s
  7. Dmitry Volkov
    Dmitry Volkov
    -1
    7 December 2024 06: 46
    It would be better to build 10 small missile ships, but these cruisers are no longer relevant, as are large aircraft carriers, and what will it sail in the ocean? We need to protect the borders am
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155
      +2
      7 December 2024 22: 08
      MPCs are even more irrelevant, they have already been re-laid down, having realized the pointlessness, submarines and coastal aircraft are needed, minesweepers are very much needed
      1. Dmitry Volkov
        Dmitry Volkov
        0
        8 December 2024 08: 52
        I agree, we need more diving corvettes with missile-gun armament, kamikaze drones have arrived, dived deeper, it's a pity the topic of diving ships was closed, we really need them, on the basis of submarines of the Som and Bukki type or Varshavyankas we can create a good modern fleet hi
        1. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155
          0
          8 December 2024 17: 46
          diving... all submarines can not only dive but also stay under water for a long time, so I support your idea
  8. Madrover
    Madrover
    +3
    7 December 2024 07: 03
    Another slow-moving target!
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452
      0
      7 December 2024 12: 53
      Well, the enemy drone pilots need something to train on.
  9. twice-born
    twice-born
    0
    7 December 2024 13: 01
    Most likely, as a result, everything was completely replaced there. Only the old name was left. Probably, during this time and the money that it was "modernized" it was possible to two,
    or even three of these new and modern cruisers should be built.
    I hope they have placed large-caliber machine guns and cannons around the perimeter against surface and air drones?! It is not visible from the photo.
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155
      0
      7 December 2024 22: 06
      with all the high cost of modernization, when converted to Soviet money for which it was originally built, it turns out that a new one would cost 4 times more than a modernization, not everything was replaced there, the hull, the reactor, the old ones, mainly the electronics and weapons were changed, and not everything,
  10. Yyrp
    Yyrp
    -1
    7 December 2024 14: 08
    Yeah, on Alang, they are already waiting for it with impatience. Russia is not the Soviet Union, here they only know how to break things, not build. We in the Union built it in five years. The keel was laid on May 17, 1983, the launch was on April 25, 1986, the acceptance certificate was signed on December 30, 1988. The new cruiser joined the Northern Fleet on April 21, 1989. I worked on it from 86 to 88.
    1. Yyrp
      Yyrp
      0
      8 December 2024 20: 24
      Bro We are not building it, we are repairing it. And repairs cannot be finished, repairs can only be interrupted.

      (Sorry, I have seasonal personality disorder)
  11. strange guest
    strange guest
    -2
    7 December 2024 15: 02
    Will go to the landing of troops in Odessa Yes
    The leader of the Communist Party of Ukraine. Or the Communist Party of Ukraine. soldier
  12. Victor19
    Victor19
    +2
    7 December 2024 15: 09
    A relic of a bygone era. In modern conditions, only a target. But we like to cling to the old with teeth and claws. The time of armored columns and battleships, even with missiles, is gone.
    1. sidorov
      sidorov
      +1
      9 December 2024 09: 33
      The US has two dozen of these "relics". And nothing, in capable hands and with smart heads - power.
      And tanks don’t necessarily have to be assembled in columns.

      For some, the wind is always at their backs, while for others, even their own balls are in the way, not to mention missile cruisers.
      1. Victor19
        Victor19
        0
        9 December 2024 21: 11
        I don't know anything about the wind, which way it blows. But regarding armored columns, you should go to LBS and tell some people that tanks shouldn't be assembled in columns. Because they still do it.
        And the fact that the US has a dozen relics, or even a hundred of such relics! In a real conflict they have nothing to count on, and the cruiser Moskva demonstrated this well. But Moscow had good air defense.
        1. sidorov
          sidorov
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          10 December 2024 06: 50
          Quote: Victor19
          But regarding armored columns, you should go to LBS and tell some that tanks should not be assembled into columns. Because they still do it.
          And the fact that the US has a dozen relics, or even a hundred of such relics! In a real conflict they have nothing to count on, and the cruiser Moskva demonstrated this well.

          Who did you show it to? The Americans with their missile cruisers?

          Are you writing about my words that "tanks do not necessarily have to be assembled in columns"?
          Do you have problems with perception? It was you who claimed that if there are tanks, then "in columns"... So it's time for you to go to the LBS with explanations on how best to fight. It seems that they've been waiting for you there.

          And as for the fact that the fate of the "Moscow" is a lesson for the Americans, it's cleverly thought out. hi Once again I advise you to go to LBS and now put your head on the line - as a lesson for the USA... .....I see that you are a real original!
        2. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155
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          14 December 2024 10: 21
          Moscow's air defense system has not worked since it was built, it existed only on paper, they didn't know how to use it, google at least one exercise 1164 using air defense? Only isolated shootings of volcanoes
  13. Yan Yanov
    Yan Yanov
    +1
    7 December 2024 16: 49
    Another victim. They will devour him, and the enemies will not choke.
  14. Dormidontov_Dormidont
    Dormidontov_Dormidont
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    7 December 2024 18: 53
    In my opinion, this cruiser should be transferred to the Pacific Fleet, where there is plenty of space for it. And in the Northern Fleet, the cruiser faces significant threats in the form of NATO coastal anti-ship missiles and a swarm of drones.
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155
      +1
      7 December 2024 22: 14
      if I were the commander-in-chief of the navy, I would transfer the entire surface fleet to Kamchatka and the north, and the north in the broadest sense from Arkhangelsk to Murmansk, on mine there are only third-rank ships, and on the Black Sea Fleet and in the Sea of ​​Japan you can still land
      1. Ales
        Ales
        +1
        11 December 2024 01: 16
        From Murmansk to Arkhangelsk is about 500 km.
      2. Mongolor
        Mongolor
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        14 December 2024 04: 25
        Kamchatka is a lousy port like Port Arthur and has no railway connection with the mainland... the history of the 1st Pacific Squadron will repeat itself
        1. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155
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          14 December 2024 09: 39
          Russia has restrictions on access to seas and oceans, we are a land power, all seas are closed and controlled by potential enemies, for example, the first Pacific squadron was trapped in Vladivostok and Port Arthur, and could not act, the situation is no better in the Baltic, Black Sea, Russia has only two exits to the ocean, these are the Barents Sea and Kamchatka, Russia keeps all the main forces of the Navy in these inconvenient, as you correctly put it, places for only one reason, there are no other options, communications with Murmansk are no better than with Kamchatka there is a single-track railway but it is not a big problem to cut it, moreover, Murmansk is under fire from Norway, Kamchatka is cut off from the mainland ... no, that's all! there are also US facilities located close by, the navy does not control the ocean there to the proper extent, there is only one airfield and that is half civilian..... but there is NO other place to locate nuclear submarines so that they can go out to the ocean, which means that it is precisely in these two points that all naval forces need to be gathered, creating weapons and food depots, air defense and air support, ... the Black Sea Fleet has a railroad, so what? It turns out that the sea is closed and can be shot through by coastal weapons..... unfortunately, the admiralty traditionally does not care about simple issues of the fleet's combat readiness and maintains completely meaningless Baltic, Black Sea, Caspian and Sea of ​​Japan fleets, which, according to the admiralty's plan, should share the fates of both the first and second Pacific squadrons, Tsushima, is this what admirals dream of?
          1 transfer all second rank ships to the oceans
          2 create (revive) naval bases, dispersing them from Murmansk to Arkhangelsk
          3 transfer all small ships and submarines from Vladivostok to the Soviet harbor (and large ones to Kamchatka)
          4 create a port in Ust Bolsheretsk and connect it with Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky by a reliable railway or road
          5 withdraw the remnants of the Baltic fleet to Kronstadt (and the larger ones to the north) because both Baltiysk and Kamchatka are not connected by rail to the mainland
  15. Victor19
    Victor19
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    10 December 2024 12: 59
    Quote: sidorov
    Quote: Victor19
    But regarding armored columns, you should go to LBS and tell some that tanks should not be assembled into columns. Because they still do it.
    And the fact that the US has a dozen relics, or even a hundred of such relics! In a real conflict they have nothing to count on, and the cruiser Moskva demonstrated this well.

    Who did you show it to? The Americans with their missile cruisers?

    Are you writing about my words that "tanks do not necessarily have to be assembled in columns"?
    Do you have problems with perception? It was you who claimed that if there are tanks, then "in columns"... So it's time for you to go to the LBS with explanations on how best to fight. It seems that they've been waiting for you there.

    And as for the fact that the fate of the "Moscow" is a lesson for the Americans, it's cleverly thought out. hi Once again I advise you to go to LBS and now put your head on the line - as a lesson for the USA... .....I see that you are a real original!

    No, this is a lesson for us - the Cold War mastodons will be eliminated by a large number of missiles and drones. You can clown around as much as you like, but this will not change the reality. When you say that the Americans have dozens of such mastodons, you think that they are right. Well, why do our people worship the Americans and Westerners?
  16. polar bear
    polar bear
    +1
    13 December 2024 12: 05
    The cruiser can only be ready after passing tests, eliminating all identified faults, signing the act of completion of repairs, and after returning from repairs to the training base and handing over tasks.
  17. Ruslan Smorodin
    Ruslan Smorodin
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    13 December 2024 15: 53
    A disgrace to the whole world! They have several active carrier groups and the same number in reserve for maintenance.
  18. Mongolor
    Mongolor
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    14 December 2024 04: 23
    7 feet under keel
  19. Borrisych
    Borrisych
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    14 December 2024 10: 35
    Until we sink the aircraft carrier "Great Britain" in the most furious, ruthless and demonstrative way, there will be no sense. The Anglo-Saxons are doing us the most shameless dirty tricks with Bandera's hands. And we are inventing this and modernizing that, and it's all in vain. They blew up the floodplains, destroyed the Black Sea fleet, shot down all our drones, and are hitting long-range detection. We, with almost strategic missiles (not equipped), are delivering useless blows to their sheds, and they don't care. It doesn't concern them. With our toothlessness, we have led to direct aggression on our territory, to the enemies making plans to occupy Russia. Things are heading inexorably toward a nuclear war. And the more we try to prove that we are white and fluffy, that we are for peace, that we do everything according to the charter, the faster we will get worse. Alexander Nevsky, our saint, slaughtered entire cities of dissenters. His own. Only decisive actions can achieve results. God knows how much they modernized the Nakhimov, and they will sink it with a three-kopeck drone. "Zircons", air defense... If the Anglo-Saxons planned to blow up one of our large ammunition depots, they will blow it up. They wanted to bomb the plant in Taganrog - they bombed it. And no air defense will save them. It is time to make serious decisions, and not indulge in complacency by using unarmed hazelnuts, etc. and spending incredible amounts of money on nothing.