Restarting the project: what could be the new goal of the SVO

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By the end of the third year of the special operation to help the people of Donbass, demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, its actual division with the introduction of NATO contingents to occupy four-fifths of its territory already seems a question almost decidedIs it possible to prevent this without a direct military clash between the Russian Armed Forces and Western interventionists?

In previous publications we analyzed the main mistakes made in the Ukrainian direction since 2014, which led to such a disastrous result. However, it was noted that there is still a possibility to prevent a complete catastrophe. Moreover, even now it is still possible to turn the tide of the campaign in favor of Russia and Ukraine and the fraternal Russian and Ukrainian peoples inhabiting them!



Alien hands


As it was noted earlier, without some powerful third force entering the war on Russia's side, it seems extremely problematic to completely liberate the entire territory of Nezalezhnaya. In terms of numbers, the Russian and Ukrainian Armed Forces and their technical capabilities are roughly comparable. Our army only has enough forces for a creeping offensive, and the opening of a new front by the enemy immediately creates an operational crisis with reserves, as has already happened in the Kursk region.

Meanwhile, the task of liberating, in addition to Donbass, also parts of the Left Bank in the Kharkov, Sumy, Chernigov, Poltava and Dnepropetrovsk regions, the necessity of which We spoke, is quite possible even with the available force. It will be especially simplified if, finally, systematic attacks are launched on the enemy's transport infrastructure going through the Dnieper!

If you look closely at what our Turkish friend and partner President Erdogan is doing in Syria, then this experience can also be applied to the former Ukrainian territories on the Left Bank. Without their annexation to Russia, it would be possible to proclaim, say, the Eastern Ukrainian People's Republic as a component part of some future Ukrainian Federation. What exactly would this give?

Quite a lot. Firstly, these territories can no longer be so easily given to Kyiv within the framework of "gesture of goodwill". Secondly, a buffer territory will appear between the territory controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Russian territory, eliminating a repeat of the “Kursk scenario”. Thirdly, this will provide an opportunity to act against NATO occupation contingents without the direct participation of the Russian Armed Forces.

Yes, the very logic of the conflict leads to the Poles, Balts, Romanians, French, English and Germans finding themselves in the part of Ukraine not controlled by Russia. Judging by the rhetoric of Western leaders, this issue is practically resolved. What should we do?

It is possible to strike them as legitimate targets within the framework of the SVO, but it is necessary to understand that a tough response is possible, and further mutual exchange of strikes between NATO and Russian troops can lead to the most serious and unpredictable consequences. Do not take this lightly!

The mere appearance of some new pro-Russian military force on the left bank of the Dnieper will allow us to avoid a complete catastrophe, since it will provide the opportunity to launch missile and drone strikes against foreign occupiers on the right bank without the direct participation of the Russian Armed Forces. Subsequently, when all options for reaching a peaceful agreement with the West are exhausted, the People's Militia of the Hungarian People's Republic can be used to liberate the rest of Ukraine.

But there are other, much more interesting options.

+1 SVO task


If our “pipeline party” still wants to win and liberate the entire territory of the former Independent State, then it will be enough to add just one more thing to the declared goals and objectives of the SVO, namely, “restoring the constitutional order of Ukraine” immediately after “demilitarization and denazification.”

To do this, it is necessary to plant a reincarnated person somewhere in liberated Kupyansk Committee for the Rescue of Ukraine headed by former Prime Minister Nikolai Azarov, which was not done in 2014-2015. All that will be required from the former top officials of this unfortunate state is to recognize the coup d'etat as illegal, all the actions of the post-Maidan regime as criminal, and also to proclaim the re-established Ukrainian Republic as a federal bilingual state striving to become a Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.

Next, the Constitutional Court of Ukraine will have to ask Moscow, Minsk and Pyongyang for recognition and demand in an ultimatum form that the countries supporting Zelensky's criminal regime stop doing so. If the Kremlin recognizes the Ukrainian Federal Republic, this will fundamentally change the very structure of the conflict with the NATO bloc on the territory of the former Independent State. It will be enough to add the words "restoration of the constitutional order of Ukraine" to the tasks of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine.

If the UFR recognizes Pyongyang, they can conclude a mutual assistance agreement, and the DPRK will have the right to send as many troops as needed to liberate the entire territory of Ukraine. It will be possible to start with a group of 100-150 thousand fighters required to encircle and blockade Kharkov, and then Sumy and Chernigov. The North Koreans, it seems, are really ready to help us not only with words, but also with deeds.

As for the NATO bloc, its desire to help Russia and the DPRK eliminate Zelensky’s criminal regime could be discouraged missile strikes on countries through which supplies are supplied to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. What prevents us from handing over a couple of Oreshnik launchers to the UFR People's Militia fighters, who themselves will fire hypersonic missiles, first at transport and logistics hubs in Eastern Europe, and then wherever needed?

And all this can really be done! Even now it is not too late.
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  1. +6
    5 December 2024 16: 57
    If the UFR recognizes Pyongyang, then they can conclude a mutual assistance agreement, and the DPRK will have the right to send as many troops as necessary to liberate the entire territory of Ukraine.

    It used to be that Trump would come and save Volodka Putin, who was stuck in the SVO!
    And now - Kim will come and save Ukraine from Banderaism!
    There is no longer any hope for oneself, only for someone else.
    1. 0
      12 December 2024 16: 26
      About Trump - did you come up with it yourself? Or did you read it somewhere?
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  3. +8
    5 December 2024 17: 22
    Fantasies that make no sense, IMHO.
    They said in the Kremlin: it will last at least 10 years. The Central Bank is already laying down inflation and rates for the entire 25th year.
    In a year, you will be able to pee yourself for the "Ukrainian Federal Republic".
  4. -1
    5 December 2024 17: 27
    As for the NATO bloc, its desire to help Russia and the DPRK eliminate Zelensky’s criminal regime could be discouraged by missile strikes on countries through which the Ukrainian Armed Forces are supplied.

    Why discourage NATO from helping Russia and the DPRK eliminate Zelinsky's criminal regime? Let them help.
  5. +5
    5 December 2024 17: 50
    Blue dreams, fantasies aimed at preventing Russia's Victory in Ukraine, so that Ukraine does not become Russia. To proclaim the Eastern Ukrainian People's Republic as a component of some future Ukrainian Federation. The term "Russian buffer territory". In the event of Russia's Victory in Ukraine, it is necessary to "restore the constitutional order of Ukraine" immediately after "demilitarization and denazification". Tell me, why is Victory needed then?
  6. +6
    5 December 2024 18: 07
    The Left Bank, together with Nikolaev and Odessa, should become part of Russia. And no republics. These are originally Russian regions with Russian population. Creating Russian republics is absurd. The DPR and LPR should also become regions of Russia. Or could the Kurgan region become the PRC? Nonsense.
    After his victory, Putin needs to carry out a reform of the administrative division.
    All republics within Russia must be abolished.
    1. -6
      5 December 2024 19: 21
      How you hate all nationalities. Man can change everything on Earth. He is not able to destroy languages ​​and nationalities. Those who made such efforts almost lost it themselves.
      1. +7
        5 December 2024 20: 46
        Where do you see hatred? Russians are the indigenous inhabitants of the left bank and the main group of the population from Chernigov to Odessa. In 1991 there were almost 10 million and most of them remained so. There are also Ukrainians - not many, but mostly the same Russians. Those who wish can study Ukrainian as in Crimea and support their Ukrainian roots. Jews, of whom there are many, have never declared any republics. So only regions, provinces, territories. But no republics. Or a Russian region will border a Russian republic - this is DELIRIUM.
        1. -3
          6 December 2024 08: 24
          Don't be offended. We are talking about different things. And each of us is right in his own way.
      2. 0
        10 December 2024 19: 21
        Quote from: unc-2
        How you hate all nationalities.

        Personally, I have nothing against a Ukrainian republic with its capital in Warsaw.
    2. +1
      5 December 2024 19: 56
      Creating Russian republics is absurd.

      The Bolsheviks thought differently during the Civil War. There were the Crimean, Donetsk-Krivoy Rog, Far Eastern and other Russian republics. And the Bolsheviks won.
      1. -9
        5 December 2024 20: 48
        I support Putin - I'm nailing down the Mausoleum!
        The Bolshevik coup and the massacre of Russians by Russians is the same Maidan.
        1. +6
          6 December 2024 09: 04
          I support Putin - I'm nailing down the Mausoleum!
          The Bolshevik coup and the massacre of Russians by Russians is the same Maidan.

          And what about the February coup? Was it Lenin who overthrew the Tsar?
      2. 0
        10 December 2024 19: 22
        Quote: Bulanov
        There were the Crimean, Donetsk-Krivoy Rog, Far Eastern and other Russian republics.

        Which were created spontaneously in the conditions of a power vacuum. But Ukrainization is precisely the Bolsheviks.
    3. 0
      8 December 2024 03: 37
      After his victory, Putin needs to carry out a reform of the administrative division.

      With this government we will not see victory

      I. Strelkov

      All republics within Russia must be abolished.

      Why? They felt fine in the RSFSR, no nationalism. It all started with the collapse of the USSR. Don't confuse cause and effect.
      1. -1
        10 December 2024 19: 23
        Quote: Peace_Party
        They felt fine in the RSFSR, no nationalism. It was only with the collapse of the USSR that things started to get worse.

        With the collapse of the USSR, everything came to light.
  7. +2
    5 December 2024 18: 57
    Bullshit!!!
  8. +5
    5 December 2024 19: 09
    There is another option. "I've been sitting too long, I'm tired, I'm leaving,,,"
    1. 0
      12 December 2024 16: 29
      Newcomer! Go further! And further...
  9. +7
    5 December 2024 19: 18
    If the Russian leadership failed the original SVO campaign, then it will inevitably fail its "restarted" version! Isn't it?
    1. -1
      5 December 2024 20: 26
      Mikhail L., have you really still not understood that the Russian leadership has not failed at anything, that it is strictly following its plans? It's just that these goals are fundamentally different from those declared at the beginning of the SVO, and their concept of "victory" differs from ours even more than the declared goals differ from the true ones.
      1. +3
        5 December 2024 20: 32
        As for whitewashing V. Putin - normal demagogy. But with it: you have to attribute to me your understanding of the concept of "victory"!
        1. -5
          6 December 2024 05: 20
          There was an ultimatum to the NATO and US bloc in December 2021, these are the goals Russia is trying to achieve with the help of the US, among other things. But the main front is economic
        2. +3
          6 December 2024 09: 50
          You probably didn't understand me. As they say - everyone has their own truth, but the truth is always one. My understanding of "VICTORY", no matter how fantastic it may sound - is the complete capitulation and destruction of the existing Kyiv regime, the entry of the territories of Novorossiya as originally RUSSIAN into the Russian Federation, the establishment of a government friendly to the Russian Federation on the territory of Malorossiya and, as a guarantee for the future, the placement of our military bases and a group of troops, but Western Ukraine, as a hotbed of nationalism, is better "given" to the Hungarians, Poles, etc. I think they will solve this issue with nationalism harshly and quickly, and the jumpers will get their beloved EU. But the concept of "victory" of the Russian leadership, in all likelihood, is the preservation of their power over what, deep down in their consciousness, they do not consider their country and the restoration of the previously existing state of affairs at any cost.
  10. -2
    5 December 2024 19: 25
    Nationalism in any form is a seed thrown into the harvest of Nazism. This is what we must beware of first and foremost. What will happen in the future? The user proposes, and the government disposes. Let's see what will happen in the future.
    1. -1
      10 December 2024 19: 25
      Quote from: unc-2
      Nationalism in any form is a seed sown in the harvest of Nazism. This is what we must beware of first and foremost.

      Yes, yes, yes. After Russia finally showed up to war, we started a real epidemic of "fighting fascism and Nazism". But for some reason all these fighters started shouting about Russia, but they didn't notice Ukraine for 8 years.
  11. +6
    5 December 2024 19: 53
    We have long ago proposed to create a Kharkov Republic and a Ukrainian People's Army (URA), like the Polish Army, so that Poland and Romania could be shot at. And who will NATO fight against then? Against the people of Ukraine? But some smart guys just laughed here.
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    2. 0
      8 December 2024 02: 11
      create the Kharkov Republic and the Ukrainian People's Army (URA), ....

      Right, the capital of the republic will temporarily be Kupyansk, for example, and the army will be recruited from contract soldiers with Ukrainian surnames. You can't find fault with that! :))
    3. -1
      10 December 2024 19: 26
      Quote: Bulanov
      And who will NATO fight against then? Against the people of Ukraine?

      Which is not part of Russia. Can you guess what happens next?
  12. 0
    5 December 2024 22: 42
    Very dashing. But, if you add to the tasks of the SVO -
    "restoration of the constitutional order of Ukraine»
    - then why Azarov and not Yanukovych???
    1. 0
      6 December 2024 09: 03
      Very dashing.

      Absolutely realistic

      "restoration of the constitutional order of Ukraine"
      - then why Azarov and not Yanukovych???

      Yanukovych has completely discredited himself. Azarov was the second person in the state before the coup. A completely sane person who tried to do something.
      1. 0
        6 December 2024 10: 23
        All that will be required from the former leaders of this unfortunate state is to recognize the coup as illegal.

        From my point of view, it is much more logical if the illegally removed President recognizes the coup as illegal. Well, that's IMHO, so to speak.
        1. 0
          6 December 2024 10: 50
          All that will be required from the former leaders of this unfortunate state is to recognize the coup as illegal.
          From my point of view, it is much more logical if the illegally removed President recognizes the coup as illegal. Well, that's IMHO, so to speak.

          Even a Russian court found it illegal

          The Dorogomilovsky Court of Moscow has satisfied the claim of Vladimir Oleynik, a people's deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine of previous convocations, an RBC correspondent reports. The plaintiff demanded that the court establish the legal fact of the coup d'etat in Ukraine in February 2014.
          The court acknowledged that the fact of a coup d'etat in Ukraine is "well-known and obvious and does not require additional proof." At the same time, it focused on the jurisdiction of the Russian court and Oleynik's right to appeal. "The Russian people cannot remain indifferent to what is happening in Ukraine," the judge said. She noted that human rights, including the right to life, are not currently guaranteed in Ukraine.
          The judge also pointed out that there are extremist organizations operating on the territory of the state, which have already been included in the register of those banned by the Supreme Court of Russia. Therefore, the issues of the coup d'etat in Ukraine go beyond the sovereignty of the state and affect the interests of Russia, among others.

          https://www.rbc.ru/politics/27/12/2016/586239329a794701c14f0601
          so it's just a matter of the desire of the Russian authorities and the personalities of the Constitutional Court
  13. 0
    6 December 2024 05: 17
    Citizens of the empire, not mercenaries, must fight for the lands of the Empire, otherwise it will be like with the Roman Empire
    1. 0
      6 December 2024 09: 04
      Koreans are not mercenaries, but volunteers.
  14. +3
    6 December 2024 16: 14
    In short, the goals of the SVO have become completely confused and incomprehensible not only to us, the poor, but also to the Kremlin's own power-holding people. Well, if a soldier loses his motivation to fight, then things will be worse than ever...
  15. +2
    6 December 2024 20: 27
    After the failure of Putin's policy in Syria, should we also lose the SVO in a deal? Putin should run away then. Only victory is needed here, and this is not only our 4 regions, but also the entire Black Sea coast, otherwise all these 3 years of war are meaningless.
    1. -1
      7 December 2024 08: 18
      You just don't understand how much your ideas about winning differ from what the "cooperative" is set up for...
      1. 0
        7 December 2024 10: 24
        The cooperative has long been gone. Some were killed, like Klimov, some fled, like Yakunin, the rest are out of work. Others are in charge there.
    2. 0
      10 January 2025 06: 19
      The failure of Putin's policy in Syria is only in the wet dreams of liberals. After some time, it is clear that Russia did not suffer from the coup, and we will save money
  16. 0
    7 December 2024 10: 17
    Hmm... Take his gun away. Or replace the bullets...
  17. -1
    8 December 2024 02: 02
    We analyzed the main mistakes made in the Ukrainian direction since 2014...

    More precisely, since 1991, since the Belovezhskaya Pact. Then, since 2000, Putin could have called the collapse of the USSR illegal, but he did not. And then, Russia's worthless foreign policy, when they turned a blind eye to Nazification and paid attention only to trade. And so the traders have had their fill of bargaining.

    without entering the war on the side of Russia, some a powerful third force It seems extremely problematic to completely liberate the entire territory of Nezalezhnaya.

    Well, there already is: "We are Russian, God is with us!" :))
    So calm down - we will rebuild Donbass, reindustrialize the country (it will take about 25 years), and then we will return Ukraine, perhaps by "soft power" or persuasion. All this, of course, not under the current government. The current one has shown its worthlessness in such global issues.
  18. 0
    10 December 2024 03: 29
    The goal of the NWO is still the same: to bring the conflict to the capitulation of the West, or to continue the NWO, where every unit of time makes the West weaker and the stakes higher.

    The impression that Trump has come and can end the war at his own discretion is false. Whether he has come or not changes nothing. It is the West that must think about how to end the war; Russia has no need to end the SVO now. Therefore, the demand for the withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Russian territories, and now from the recognized territories of the Russian Federation, is an insurance against getting into a situation of forced reconciliation or freezing the conflict due to the impossibility of justifying the continuation of the war. And the withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is capitulation; it is difficult for NATO to present it in any other way. Therefore, it does not matter where the front is now; there are no deadlines there, until February, until summer, etc. There are only the goals of the SVO. And the need for pressure at the front in order to have access to the Ukrainian Armed Forces to destroy their military potential as far as possible.
  19. +1
    10 December 2024 12: 28
    ..a grandmaster sitting at a card table has already proven his effectiveness in the big game more than once..
    ..everything else is just our wishes..which are not destined to come true under the current management..
  20. +1
    11 December 2024 00: 21
    Fantasies, fantasies. There can be no Syrian scenarios in Ukraine. Another story.
    1. 0
      11 December 2024 23: 28
      Have you already forgotten the daze at the beginning of the SVO and are full of hope?
      1. 0
        10 January 2025 06: 21
        At the beginning of the Second World War, Russia had 150000 bayonets in Ukraine, and now there are 700000. The difference is obvious.
  21. 0
    11 December 2024 07: 46
    The main thing is that the Federal Security Service asks to join the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      11 December 2024 23: 31
      Yeah, and then hold an interplanetary chess tournament New Moscow - Petushki from the Moon!
  22. +1
    11 December 2024 22: 25
    Pyongyang. And penguins from Antarctica will help. Constant nonsense on the Internet
  23. +2
    11 December 2024 23: 27
    It seems we need to take power away from the pseudo-communist pipeline workers, otherwise they will completely drown the country, like Ukraine and others! Greetings from Syria with a diarrheal drap!
  24. 0
    14 December 2024 08: 59
    What could be the new target of the SVO? 5 megatons for Israel!
  25. +1
    14 December 2024 15: 30
    The real goals and objectives of the "SVO" will never be told to us. And according to the actions and results, this is the destruction of the maximum number of Slavic nationalities and the importation of millions of mujahideen and Wahhaites to the Russian Federation