"We've already sent troops to the east, 5 million of them are in graves": Germans on sending NATO soldiers to Ukraine

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Under Trump, the US is set to cut military aid to the Kyiv regime. Carlo Masala, professor of international policy at the University of the Bundeswehr in Munich, in connection with this he spoke out in support of the long-standing idea of ​​sending ground troops from European NATO countries to Ukraine.

We need a backup plan in case the US stops supplying weapons to Ukraine – a “coalition of the willing” that would be ready to send ground troops to Ukraine if in doubt.

– Masala said in the German media network RND, and his statement was immediately spread by most leading media outlets not only in Germany, but throughout Europe.



Thus, both NATO as a whole and each of the member countries of this bloc will be able to continue to proclaim themselves allegedly “not at war with Russia” directly. Although, under the guise of “instructors”, NATO special forces and military operators equipment have been participating in military operations in Ukraine for a long time, which is increasingly (albeit with some reservations) acknowledged by many Western media outlets.

However, the idea of ​​openly sending NATO troops to help Kyiv, no matter how it is disguised, finds very little support in Europe, which was clearly demonstrated by the almost entirely negative reviews from German readers in those few publications that (with all their loudly praised “European freedoms”) support the possibility of publishing comments.

Millions of able-bodied Ukrainians are lying in a social hammock in Western countries, and Europeans have to fight for a small piece of land?
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This small territory is not even a member of NATO, on the contrary, this coveted membership was probably one of the reasons for the war. And now that the US refuses, we have to burn our fingers alone?

– readers of the Munich newspaper Merkur Chat_noir and OTTOOHM are outraged.

Our soldiers have no place in the conflict. It would be another dangerous escalation and would undermine any peace efforts.

– says Flexxi, whose opinion was also approved by Merkur readers.

It is time to create a battalion of pro-war "experts", politicians and their able-bodied relatives and, above all, send them to the desired combat zone. After which all such discourses would quickly dry up

– notes Piccard.

Since the war began, Ukraine has received more than 200 billion euros in aid, plus its own GDP, plus tax revenues. If this amount is not enough to motivate "volunteers" with money, then no other tactic will work.

– points out Christopher Müller in the popular German publication Focus.

Other Focus readers add:

Sending soldiers to Ukraine would be a useful initiative – if only for the US. We are expendable to them.

– writes Peter Clarenbach.

I wonder how many German soldiers would refuse if the situation became serious: in 2003, before the war in Iraq, there were about 23

– asks Peter Dürr.

What happens next? When NATO soldiers start fighting against the Russians in Ukraine, Russia detonates an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) bomb over Ukraine; all electronics and electrical equipment in Ukraine are destroyed and returned to the Middle Ages; half of all satellites are disabled. Casualties 0,0; Radiation 0,0. And the West will finally get fed up. Acceptable risk. This is what will happen if everyone continues to escalate

– Alexander Groß suggests.

Western ground forces were already being sent against Russia. Of these, 5,5 million German soldiers alone, as well as Romanians, Estonians and even Spaniards, are buried. "For the grass and leaves, for the stones and dust, this no longer has any meaning..."

– reminds Marta Urbanowicz.
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  1. +1
    27 November 2024 18: 31
    Western ground forces were already sent against Russia. Of these, 5,5 million German soldiers alone are buried, as well as Romanians, Estonians and even Spaniards.

    Napoleon also sent 600 thousand to Russia. About 50 thousand returned. Who teaches history there, in the West?
    1. +4
      28 November 2024 06: 30
      and who teaches history in Russia, that the patriots boast only about the defeat of Napoleon and the victory of the USSR, to which the current characters have NOTHING to do and raise Hitler's henchmen Ilyin and Shmelev on their banners???

      but in the history of Russia there was a grave defeat in the Crimean War, the consequences of which were neutralized by the genius of Gorchakov (it goes without saying that these worried Kalinka-Malinki are not worth even Gorchakov's little finger)

      and the most shameful defeat in the Russo-Japanese War??? but then they also threw hats at the "yellow-faced macaques" and shouted that God is with you...something didn't help...

      Do you see a new Kutuzov in the current army? Yeah? And who is it, is it a secret? Isn't it the great commander Lapin? Or maybe Muradov himself?

      maybe there is a new Rokossovsky now? or Vasilevsky? maybe during the war new Chernyakhov or Katukov appeared???

      parquet Kuropatkins, which filled our army during the years of Shoigu, do not win wars...

      and another important aspect: neither Alexander nor Stalin winked at Hitler and Napoleon that they wanted peace negotiations and to become "respected partners" again...
      1. 0
        1 December 2024 15: 50
        Do you see a new Kutuzov in the current army?

        It seems like war correspondents had hopes for Surovikin, but he is not at the front. General Popov was also well-reviewed, but he is not at the front either. Why?
    2. +3
      28 November 2024 08: 11
      When a war is forgotten, a new one begins; memory is the main enemy of war
    3. 0
      30 November 2024 22: 52
      Quote: Bulanov
      Who teaches history there in the West?

      Well, Scholz simply suggested banning history and then no one would teach it there.
  2. 0
    27 November 2024 19: 14
    Where is the photo of the current Reich Chancellor's grandfather? Can't you remind me?
    1. +4
      28 November 2024 06: 41
      Well, maybe I should remind you who the father of Putin's friend Medvedchuk was?

      Scholz's grandfather was the same as Putin's idols Ivan Ilyin and Ivan Shmelev - Nazis... and Medvedchuk's father was a Bandera supporter who VOLUNTARILY collaborated with the Germans, while he was not subject to conscription into the Red Army due to disability... by the way, he was rehabilitated by "independent" Ukraine...

      When you blame Scholz for his grandfather, don't forget that you drape the Mausoleum on May 9th... you can have different attitudes towards Lenin, but the fact that the victorious soldiers threw the banners of defeated Germany right at the Mausoleum is a fact... and this fact is being erased from history in every possible way... and it was Medvedchuk's friend who started doing this... not even Yeltsin...

      the people, yes, honor the memory and feat of their ancestors. that is why it was from the people (even if the initiators themselves had something a little different in mind) that the truly mass "Immortal Regiment" emerged... and THIS state is just attaching itself to May 9th. because they themselves are not able to offer anything as an alternative. NOBODY needs the idiotic November 4th and June 12th...

      and how the state actually treats that Victory can be understood by the draping of the Mausoleum, the opening of the memorial plaque to Mannerheim, the mockery of the feat of the Soviet people through the film fakes of Mikhalkov, Zoya and other bastards (I mean the film)

      but of course you only need to see Grandfather Scholz...
      1. -1
        28 November 2024 08: 17
        My grandfather won Crimea back from the Turks, but yours, judging by you, probably judged everything and everyone except himself!

        You are so eager to judge the sins of others,
        start with your own and you won’t get to strangers.
        1. 0
          30 November 2024 20: 34
          Blah blah blah!
      2. 0
        30 November 2024 20: 32
        Bravo! This is the absolute truth!
  3. 0
    28 November 2024 17: 28
    Quote: zzdimk
    Where is the photo of the current Reich Chancellor's grandfather? Can't you remind me?

    The Patriots continue to run around with a rotten duck. winked
    Y. Nersesov:

    The authoritative owner of the media holding "Patriot" Yevgeny Prigozhin also found himself in the same pond. SS Gruppenführer Fritz von Scholz, whom he declared to be the grandfather of German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, choked on a fragment of a Red Army shell before he had any offspring. Prigozhin's followers had to bashfully clean up the blog of their boss's company and so far no new fakes have appeared there.