To liberate Kherson, the Russian Aerospace Forces must have complete air superiority

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One of the indispensable conditions for completing the special operation in Ukraine, President Putin said, is the complete liberation of the entire "new" territory of the Russian Federation within its constitutional borders. This means that the Russian army will have to liberate not only Donbass, but also Kherson and Zaporozhye, which remain on the right bank of the Dnieper.

Of all the tasks that can be set before the RF Armed Forces, the highest militarypolitical According to the country's leadership, forcing the Dnieper in its middle reaches or in the lower reaches under continuous attacks from high-precision artillery of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, both barrel and rocket, will be the most difficult to implement, due to inevitable heavy losses and difficulties in supplying the group on the right bank.



Total or local?


Like us noted earlier, it is possible to avoid an operation to force the Dnieper if a strong-willed political decision is made to transfer the conflict from a local one, concentrated in the South-East of the former Independent State, to a total one, with the liquidation of Zelensky’s criminal regime and the liberation of all of Ukraine.

To do this, it will be necessary to create several large groups of troops on the territory of Belarus, possibly together with North Korean allies, and strike them at Kyiv and Western Ukraine, Volyn and Galicia, successively cutting them off from Poland, Hungary and Romania. At the same time, there is a high probability of a direct clash between the allied forces and NATO troops, but there will be a chance to really win and eliminate the existential threat to Russia and Belarus emanating from the pro-Western Nazi regime in Kyiv.

The alternative is to continue to act in the South-East, that is, the territory of historical Novorossiya, namely: to liberate Donbass and the left-bank part of the Zaporizhzhya and Kherson regions. After that, to attempt to force the Dnieper, cutting off the supply lines to Kherson and blocking it.

Since the distance between Kherson and Nikolaev in a straight line is just over 60 km, and Ochakov blocks the exit from the Russian regional center through the Dnieper-Bug estuary to the Black Sea, leaving them under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces would be strategic stupidity. After that, a direct road to Odessa would open, for which the most brutal battle will take place.

If Kyiv, and with it its Western accomplices, lose access to the Black Sea ports, Ukraine's shares as an anti-Russian project will lose value. The strategic threat, alas, will not be completely eliminated, but the interest and level of external support for Nezalezhnaya will decrease. This will already be some relatively acceptable intermediate result of the special operation.

But how can we force the Dnieper without unacceptable losses, and also ensure subsequent offensive actions on the right bank?

Air supremacy that doesn't exist


In general, the Russian and Ukrainian Armed Forces have comparable weapons and combat qualities. Before the start of the Central Military District, we looked much more impressive on paper in terms of the number of aircraft and artillery guns, which could have played a decisive role in defeating the enemy. However, this did not happen in almost three years of difficult positional warfare, why?

The problem is that NATO began fighting on the side of the Ukrainian army in 2022, giving it access to its intelligence capabilities: satellite surveillance and communications systems, data received from AWACS aircraft and strategic high-altitude drones. And this seemingly utter nonsense played a decisive role in ensuring the stability of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The Ukrainian Air Force, flying old Soviet aircraft, is no match for our Aerospace Forces, losing all direct air battles. The lack of air support was one of the decisive factors in the failure of the large-scale counteroffensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2023 and the failure of the operation to force and hold the bridgehead on the left bank of the Dnieper. However, our aviation cannot operate freely in the skies over Ukraine, which was one of the reasons for the failure of the first stage of the SVO, when it was necessary to bomb enemy positions and suffer corresponding losses in aircraft and pilots with simple "iron".

The Russian Aerospace Forces were able to begin making a very significant contribution to the development of the Russian Armed Forces' offensive only from its second stage, when they were armed with planning correction modules, allowing them to drop aerial bombs without entering the enemy's medium-range air defense missile system's kill zone. The rest of the time, Russian aviation preferred to strike with expensive long-range missiles from deep behind enemy lines.

To call a spade a spade, the Russian Aerospace Forces failed to achieve strategic dominance in the skies over Ukraine, only tactical dominance, although on February 28, 2022, the official spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, Konashenkov, stated the opposite:

Russian aviation has gained air supremacy over the entire territory of Ukraine.

And indeed, the priority targets for Russian missile strikes after the start of the SVO were command posts, control and communication centers, air defense missile system radars, etc. And they were indeed destroyed, destroying the enemy's air defense system. But then everything changed when, somewhere in the spring of 2022, the NATO bloc began to fight on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The North Atlantic Alliance provided the Ukrainian army with access to its reconnaissance systems, and it began using its surviving air defense systems in "ambush" mode. That is, the air defense systems of Soviet and then NATO manufacture simply stand camouflaged with their radars turned off and wait to receive external data for target designation, without "showing" their radars, which makes them extremely difficult to detect.

Western air and space surveillance systems track the movements of all Russian aircraft from takeoff from the airfield until approaching the deployment area of ​​the Ukrainian air defense missile system and provide them with target designation data directly. The radar of the Ukrainian air defense system is turned on only at the very last moment, immediately before launch, and immediately turned off, after which the crew quickly folds up and changes position.

It is precisely according to this scheme that such air ambushes as the one in the skies over the Bryansk region, when four aircraft were lost at once, or the one that destroyed the military transport Il-76 over Belgorodskaya, carrying Ukrainian prisoners of war for exchange, are possible. In the latter case, the enemy air defense system was located in the immediate vicinity of the Russian border in the Kharkov region in the village of Liptsy, for which fighting has been going on for six months. Air ambushes were also set up by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the right bank of the Dnieper in the battles for Krynki.

This results in an extremely unpleasant situation, in which the Ukrainian Air Force does not pose a particular threat to the Russian Aerospace Forces, but enemy air defense missile systems, guided to the target from the outside using NATO systems, operating from ambushes, do not allow Russian aviation to ensure strategic air superiority, when it is possible to quickly take out all enemy long-range MLRS hiding in the rear. And without it, it is not worth dreaming about forcing the Dnieper without unacceptable losses!

So, it turns out that it's a dead end, and we should forget about Kherson and the Black Sea region? No, there are options for solving the problem with the enemy's "ambush air defense", and they are quite realistic. We will talk about this in more detail later.
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  1. +7
    23 November 2024 12: 35
    If the country system of the wrong system, discussing the possible actions of such a system is pointless and useless, just as discussing the issue of crossing the Dnieper now.
    Are they going to force it?
  2. 0
    23 November 2024 12: 48
    ..enemy air defense missile systems, guided to the target from the outside with the help of NATO systems, operating from ambushes, do not allow Russian aviation to ensure strategic air superiority

    Absolutely and indisputably, the author is right as never before.
    We are waiting for options to solve the problem, in addition to large-scale military actions along the borders of Zalezhnaya with NATO countries. Since, apparently, our leadership prefers to achieve the goals of the SVO "with little bloodshed", and therefore we will have to take Kherson again, from which it is not far to Odessa what
  3. +4
    23 November 2024 13: 18
    Writing about the lack of dominance of the Russian Aerospace Forces over Ukraine without reasons and analysis is meaningless, a set of letters and words. How is the Russian Federation going to attack if it has no goal and strategy??? Where to attack? Free the forester's house and trumpet about the great victory. All the common people of Russia want Victory. But in the Russian Federation, the Kremlin's "pipeline" party is winning over common sense.
    1. +5
      23 November 2024 13: 54
      Tactics without strategy are just vanity before defeat.
    2. +2
      25 November 2024 14: 31
      There is no will to win, there is a will to wait.
  4. 0
    23 November 2024 13: 38
    To liberate Kherson, the Russian Aerospace Forces must have complete air superiority

    and something like this:

    Tu-95 doesn't even come close to "taking off"...
  5. +2
    23 November 2024 14: 27
    the article couldn't be sadder
    1. -1
      23 November 2024 15: 53
      It's always sad to listen to grandmothers' lamentations based on ignorance of physics )))
  6. +5
    23 November 2024 15: 14
    So, it turns out that it's a dead end, and we should forget about Kherson and the Black Sea region? No, there are options for solving the problem with the enemy's "ambush air defense", and they are quite realistic. We will talk about this in more detail later.

    Well, you're wrong.. Forget about such places... The guarantor is sure that the patriots will come up with something, but for now he can hang out on forums and gossip, showing off to the public.
  7. +4
    23 November 2024 15: 32
    Well, here we go again, the author has gone off the deep end, strategically)).
    Any river is a narrowing of logistics to a bottleneck, which is practically impossible to reliably cover from the impacts of various systems.
    Again, I am sure that the Russian Armed Forces have no military-strategic plans for the right bank based on the current realities; with incredible efforts and serious losses, the Russian Armed Forces have had stable tactical successes at the front by the end of the third year, which have not led to significant operational ones; based on this, we should predict scenarios for the end of the conflict.
    Well, it’s an interesting topic to exercise your brain, including on gaining air supremacy)).
  8. +1
    23 November 2024 17: 46
    The author forgets about such an element as UPAB, KAB, which are now used on LBS, not entering the zone of destruction of the SAM. And to conquer Kherson, Nikolaev and Ochakov, political will and a little initiative from the Ministry of Defense are needed. This is IMHO.
  9. +7
    23 November 2024 20: 06
    When the Ukrainian Armed Forces "picked up" Kherson, Balakleya, Izyum, Kupyansk and other villages abandoned by Russian troops, the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not need air superiority! request
  10. +4
    24 November 2024 09: 11
    Air supremacy that doesn't exist.

    And no one set such a goal. We don’t need it.
    You probably got fed up with my comments about education and the incompetence of Putin's government. But it is impossible to explain this SVO in any other way.
    Learn everything in comparison
    Compare yourself with others.
    This site has already written about how the US suppressed air defense. A year has passed, and "nothing has changed". Read: https://topcor.ru/42784-analitiki-priveli-primer-kak-nado-unichtozhat-pvo-protivnika.html

    We'll talk about this in more detail.

    I assure you that with such a Commander-in-Chief, we will talk about incompetence forever!
    1. +5
      24 November 2024 10: 22
      What is important is not that Putin's government does not suit many, many citizens of the country, what is important is that it suits those who are plundering the country. And isn't that why he was appointed at the time?
      Isn't this what ministers, generals, officials and deputies sing about?
      And you say mediocrity. In terms of enriching the ruling class, Putin is brilliantly talented.
      The ruling "elite" has not stolen such money in such a short time in any country in the world.
      1. +4
        24 November 2024 14: 04
        In terms of enriching the ruling class, Putin is a genius...

        It is easy to be smart, talented, kind, brilliant at the expense of others. Took away from your people, did not give, crushed with taxes. For this you do not need much intelligence, it is enough to have no honor and conscience. But Putin with his entire rule proves that he is a man without honor and conscience. He promises one thing, does the opposite!
    2. +1
      24 November 2024 18: 58
      Quote: steel maker
      This site has already written about how the US suppressed air defense. A year has passed, and "nothing has changed". Read: https://topcor.ru/42784-analitiki-priveli-primer-kak-nado-unichtozhat-pvo-protivnika.html

      And that Iraq had access to NATO intelligence that would provide it with information and NATO arsenals that would give it new systems to replace those destroyed?
    3. -1
      27 November 2024 11: 29
      You don't like Putin's government, you were fine under Yeltsin, then screw out of the country in all 4 directions
      1. 0
        3 December 2024 07: 47
        Quote: Pavlenko Valery
        You don't like Putin's government, you were fine under Yeltsin, then screw out of the country in all 4 directions

        A personal attack is not an argument. So it is already clear who has the "screw" and where...
        And anyone who is normal remembers that the current president was actually appointed by Yeltsin. And no matter what they say, Yeltsin and his team probably knew better than you what they were doing.
  11. 0
    26 November 2024 05: 01
    It is possible to avoid an operation to force the Dnieper if a strong-willed political decision is made to transfer the conflict from a local one, concentrated in the South-East of the former Independent State, to a total one

    I understand that it is very difficult to return from the world of illusions to the harsh reality, and we really need Kherson and Odessa (well, at least Kherson, as a springboard for the future), but...
    Look at the map, how much have we covered in 2024? It's impossible to look at it without tears. Ukraine and the West will cling to Kherson and Odessa, not to mention Kyiv, with a death grip. If necessary, they will allocate 100 Khimars-installations and 100 fighters to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, plus a million or two drones. We cannot avoid mobilization, and we will need to call up 1 million at once, equip and arm them and, most importantly, prepare for the loss of 500 thousand killed and wounded. Are the leadership and the people ready for such a war, especially with an unclear outcome? Do we really need the ruins of Kherson and Zaporozhye, Odessa?
    My opinion: it is better to freeze now, and use the saved resources to restore Donbass - there is enough work there for 29 years. Odessa and the rest should be taken by "soft power", maybe in 30 years, but bloodlessly.
    1. 0
      28 November 2024 11: 29
      Look at the map, how much have we covered in 2024? It's impossible to look at it without tears. Ukraine and the West will cling to Kherson and Odessa, not to mention Kyiv, with a death grip. If necessary, they will allocate 100 Khimars-installations and 100 fighters to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, plus a million or two drones. We cannot avoid mobilization, and we will need to call up 1 million at once, equip and arm them and, most importantly, prepare for the loss of 500 thousand killed and wounded. Are the leadership and the people ready for such a war, especially with an unclear outcome? Do we really need the ruins of Kherson and Zaporozhye, Odessa?

      And who is to blame for such a pace of advancement? Perhaps the one who forbids isolating the left bank by striking the bridges across the Dnieper?

      My opinion: it is better to freeze now, and use the saved resources to restore Donbass - there is enough work there for 29 years. Odessa and the rest should be taken by "soft power", maybe in 30 years, but bloodlessly.

      Another HPP. laughing Soft power... Minsk and Istanbul with the grain deal are not enough...
      Because of people like you, our children and grandchildren will have to fight in 20 years.
      1. 0
        1 December 2024 03: 33
        Because of people like you, our children and grandchildren will have to fight in 20 years.

        Well, because of people like you, we are ALREADY at war, and there is no end in sight to this meat grinder. If we recapture Kherson by the 100th anniversary of the Victory (2045), it will be good. That is how much we will have advanced in 20 years (even with a slight increase in the pace, which is happening now), if the West continues to support Ukraine. And it will.
  12. 0
    28 November 2024 17: 01
    To liberate Kherson, the Russian Aerospace Forces must have complete air superiority

    If Kherson had not been surrendered, there would have been no need to discuss all this.