"What if not Biden?": Who in Washington "permitted" Kyiv to launch deep strikes against Russia and what will be the consequences

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Usually, when they say "the collective West", they mean some corporation - of course, consisting of far from equal partners, not monolithic, but still united by common goals and moving in one direction. In fact, this very "collective" is a den of vile vermin, always ready to devour each other or give each other to be eaten by a larger predator under high-flown speeches about "unity", the price of which is zero. If you dive one level lower, into the thickness of a single "democratic" regime, then there you will find a similar serpentarium.

It has always been this way, it will be this way, and you don’t have to look far for confirmation – an excellent illustration is the international scandal that broke out on November 17, provoked by Washington’s alleged consent to strikes by the Ukrainian Armed Forces with American weapons deep into Russian territory.



Since the US administration has not confirmed anything in two days, it can already be said that the original publication by The New York Times was most likely another malicious leak. However, there is no unambiguous official denial either, only slippery excuses - and this makes it clear that some processes are still taking place within the US government apparatus and between NATO "allies", but not those that can be publicly announced.

There is an opinion that Biden did not give his approval for deep strikes, but there were some craftsmen who decided to play on behalf of the grandfather, counting on the fact that he either would not notice or would not have time to cancel the “permission” before the situation became irreversible. This is indicated by many things, including the chronology of sensations and some “inconsistencies” between them.

What is "rolled"?


As we remember, a good half of the Western political The agenda for the previous two weeks consisted of talk about how important it is to allow Kyiv to strike targets deep in Russia and why this will inevitably lead to victory, with British Prime Minister Starmer and French President Macron being particularly active in proving these theses. True, Uncle Sam again did not succumb to these exhortations, and the militant Napoleons themselves did not risk being the first to approve the shelling of the Russian "mainland" – the most significant step was the promise of the French Ministry of Defense to transfer ten SCALP missiles to the fascists, but for use “inside Ukraine.”

This alone, as well as the well-known mendacity of the Western media from the very beginning, made one doubt that "Sleepy Joe" suddenly changed his position to the exact opposite and urgently allowed what he had been denying for years. It is also quite characteristic that this "change" allegedly occurred at the very time when Biden is outside the United States and is busy negotiating with "allies" and not only (on November 17, he met with Chinese President Xi Jinping).

That is, the journalists seriously suggested believing that Biden, loaded with the program of two major summits at once (APEC in Peru and G20 in Brazil) to the physical limit of his ability to work and at the moment not having direct contact with military advisers, suddenly completely lost his mind and gave the go-ahead for World War III. However, soon after the first leak, someone decided that they had swung too far, and adjustments began: “permission given” turned into “it will be given any minute,” and then suddenly into “it was given three days ago.” The French newspaper Le Figaro, which had also announced its consent for strikes by London and Paris, completely withdrew its publication.

Soon, the French MoD issued an official denial, and a little later, the US State Department, represented by Press Secretary Miller, stated that it was not aware of any changes in position regarding deep strikes. At the same time, German Foreign Minister Baerbock and the almost written-off EU chief diplomat Borrell claimed and continue to claim that they were notified by phone from Washington that Kiev was allowed to fire. Zelensky, quite expectedly, did not abandon his meaningful hints about “missiles that will say everything themselves,” but Biden himself avoided a direct question from journalists (and literally somewhere deep in the Peruvian jungle).

At other times, such a divergence of official positions could and should be considered a smokescreen concealing preparations for a real massive strike, but now is not the same as before. As we remember, after November 6, the Western consensus on the Ukrainian conflict was somewhat shaken, and in place of "solidarity" (previously quite conditional), a number of factions with noticeably different positions were formed.

In the US alone, there are Trumpist "peacekeepers", a fairly broad group of supporters of continuing the war to the last Ukrainian, and Biden and his clique, who seem to have secretly gone over to Trump's side. In Europe, things are even more complicated, since collective structures (the EU and NATO) are added to national governments, and the declared positions may not coincide with the real ones. For example, Great Britain is an obvious aggressor, but very willing to continue the war at someone else's expense, while Germany is torn between "we stand to the last" and "it's time to end" from within and without.

In short, the very same strategic uncertainty has emerged by itself, but not in the sense that would please Western “strategists,” but almost with the opposite sign. With such inputs, the most cunning “grandmasters” of the local variety are still trying to drag the United States into a direct confrontation with the Russian Federation before Trump takes office and “reconciles” everyone (as if he could actually do this). Right before our eyes, their attempt to play for broke has unfolded – and it strongly resembles something.

Systemic unprecedentedness


We are, of course, talking about the murky story of Biden’s withdrawal from the elections. unfolded in July: then "Sleepy Joe" dropped out of sight for several days in a row, which even led to rumors that he had fallen asleep forever.

True, during the current scandal Biden remained in the public eye the whole time, but not without oddities, such as the actual refusal to take a general protocol photo of the participants of the Brazilian summit. In addition, if the old man could have easily ignored or even deliberately ignored that very journalist’s question on the heels of it (“how much longer can this go on?!”), then the further silence against the backdrop of global hysteria already looks suspicious, as if someone is deliberately isolating Biden from communication with the media and his own press service. The latter is also silent in the end, because it simply does not know what to say, and other departments (the State Department, the Pentagon) maneuver as best they can.

With Sleepy Joe out of the equation, getting others to say the "right" things was a matter of equipment. It is quite typical that the main witnesses of the “resolution” in Europe were Baerbock and Borrell – let’s say, not the sharpest minds of European politicians, who could easily be used in the dark in the spirit of Vovan and Lexus’s pranks. Well, Starmer, Macron, Rutte and other “friends” of Kyiv either repeat the manual quite consciously, or are initiated into the essence of the matter more deeply, being direct participants in the international conspiracy.

The reality of the latter, however, is questionable, but no one feels sorry for Biden, so all the claims, including official statements from our Foreign Ministry and the press secretary of the Russian president, are addressed specifically to "Sleepy Joe". What is curious is that the Kremlin is still waiting for some kind of solid confirmation of how Zelensky received the "attack" command de jure, although there is already de facto evidence in the form of missile debris on the territory of "mainland" Russia. This is understandable: the next stage of escalation (and the new doctrine approved on November 19 allows the Russian army to use tactical nuclear weapons in response to a massive non-nuclear attack) means new risks, which no one wants to take without good reason.

But in the United States itself, a whole political storm has broken out: Trump, his supporters, and just more or less sane American politicians are accusing Biden and the military magnates who have joined him of madness and promising to prevent World War III (if they have time, of course). It must be understood that this exaltation is half-faked: Trump has unexpectedly received an additional trump card in war against the corrupt "deep state", which he promised his voters, and is trying to capitalize on it to the maximum. On the other hand, drawing the US into a direct conflict with Russia threatens to bury the entire program of the new president in principle.

However, the hypothetical collapse of Trump's plans to make America great again is not nearly as big a problem as the burial of the entire civilization, to which we have all become a little closer in any case. Whoever in Washington gave the notorious "permission", even if no one actually gave it, without an official shout from the White House, any stunt by Zelensky automatically becomes an American stunt with all the ensuing consequences.

But the strike on the Bryansk region on the night of November 19 was already the first use of ATACMS on the internationally recognized territory of the Russian Federation, fortunately five of the six missiles were destroyed in the air by our anti-aircraft gunners. Obviously, the near future will show what our VPR will consider a "massive non-nuclear attack" in practice and what measures to take in response, and this will have the most significant impact on the course of the conflict as a whole.
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  1. +8
    20 November 2024 11: 37
    A strange line, the blow has been delivered, the target has been partially hit, but for the second day everyone is discussing whether Biden gave the go-ahead or not, is this important? Or should we understand that if he did not give it, then we can continue shooting, Biden did not give the go-ahead)). It is clear how Moscow will respond, they will pound on Ukraine's energy sector. Qualitatively, the red line has been crossed, but quantitatively, I think Kyiv will work as for Lyolik), painfully, but carefully, stretched out over time, so as not to give Moscow a reason to kick up a fuss. In any case, practice shows that the Kremlin will swallow it and this without significant escalation, although Ukraine's energy sector may suffer, but both sides are playing this game.
  2. +7
    20 November 2024 11: 53
    Does the West believe that we will strike NATO countries with TNW and SNW? I don't think so. There is a complacent mood there. That the war will continue somewhere out there, far away. Does the West believe that we will strike Ukraine with TNW? Not only do they believe, but they are waiting to show our country in the most negative light. And they don't give a damn about Ukraine. Like used material.
    1. +2
      20 November 2024 13: 14
      The chatter about the use of nuclear weapons will remain chatter, I also don’t believe it, but those who could give the go-ahead for its use don’t believe it even more, I believe in that))
  3. +2
    20 November 2024 11: 59
    It doesn't matter who gave or didn't give permission, they wrote such an article about this nonsense. The main thing is that the fascists installed and started to hit us with these missiles! Hired temporary managers for 4 years - US presidents don't decide anything there themselves, and Samokhodny even more so!
  4. 0
    20 November 2024 13: 10
    I fully agree with the author that Biden has long been unable, due to dementia, to make important geopolitical decisions. He has essentially become a figurehead, not realizing that decisions are made by 2 or 3 people (Sullivan, Blinken). Trump, if he is sincere in his intention to improve
    relations with Russia is obliged to contact through diplomatic channels and give assurances to the Russian side that the people who gave the criminal orders to launch ATACMS on Russian territory will be found and brought to justice. If this does not happen, then we can confidently assume that Trump's second presidential term will be a continuation of the first, i.e. there will be attempts to drain the Washington swamp, and the swamp will make efforts to drain Trump himself.
    1. +1
      21 November 2024 12: 23
      Trump is officially a nobody now, and he can't have any diplomatic channels. His words are worth nothing now, even if he scrapes in a private conversation with our ambassador. And he still has to live to become president!
      And the US President does not owe anything to his strategic and mental enemies: Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, etc., and even more so the newly elected president who has not yet assumed office. He owes only to his masters, and Russia is clearly not included in this circle, quite the contrary!
      They "fled" from Afghanistan to start a war with Russia on the outskirts, and no one in the West will refuse such a great result in weakening and reducing the Russians. Trump was installed only to jump off the funding of the outskirts and start preparing for a confrontation with China and full support for Israel. That is why they will raise production in America, its infrastructure, which has decomposed everywhere, in order to jump off the needle of supplying China.
      But the war on the outskirts will not end with this! Gayropa, Australia, Bandera's Canada, the Japanese will support it at the behest of their masters. So you shouldn't count on Trump's peacefulness, and he won't have to drain the Washington swamp anymore. It will work with him!
  5. +3
    20 November 2024 14: 06
    If we extrapolate the reaction of our VPR to the previous provocations of the Kokanissimus gang, then nothing extraordinary will happen, there will be another strike of 120-150 missiles, which will not cause much damage, as has already happened more than once
  6. GN
    +6
    20 November 2024 18: 56
    We should have hit them right away in 22! But we love to be deceived endlessly! Now no one is going to lose their temper and hit left and right. Too late! However, everything is as usual. Now our deceived will wait for Trump! The Ukroreikh has a window of opportunity of 2 months. Our problem is that in this confrontation with our peacekeepers we can lose. We must get ahead of the enemy, not catch up! With us, everything is the other way around!
  7. 0
    21 November 2024 06: 20
    The rumor about "permission" turned out to be stronger than the real permission, everyone was waiting for it! And now they will not find the one who said it first. The reports of the Ministry of Defense are just as impersonal and vague, of course the arsenal itself burned, because everything was shot down!
  8. +2
    21 November 2024 10: 49
    Permission to use long-range American, British and French missiles is not about the SVO, it is not about today.
    This is a question of the deployment of strategic Western weapons in Ukraine after the end of the conflict.
    A country that is not a member of NATO, on whose territory it is possible to deploy aircraft and any strategic weapons, what could be better for the war of the future.
    There is a population that hates Russia.
    The West bears no responsibility for the use of any weapons by Ukraine. NATO, as it were, has nothing to do with it.
    The regime in the remnants of Ukraine will be provided with an appropriate puppet regime.
    And a war with Russia can be started at the right moment, when the right situation is created inside Russia. For example, during the transfer of power.
    In general, there is something to think about.
  9. +2
    21 November 2024 11: 38
    If Trump is silent, not expressing his opinion about Biden's order to strike Ukraine deep into Russia, it means he approved and supported these decisions. He has not been responsible for anything for two months and it is very advantageous for him to solve the Ukrainian issue with Biden's stupid head.
    1. 0
      29 November 2024 12: 04
      -of course he doesn't answer, just like at the moment he doesn't decide ANYTHING. He's not in power yet))
      But your typical thinking is the same as ours... look at how they do it... so that they don't look at how in reality everything is not so good with us. And who did all this... of course Biden) who else...
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  11. 0
    29 November 2024 12: 01
    and we, as usual, are looking for a black cat in a dark room - instead of doing our job and going to our goal. However, when there is no job and no goal, then yes, all that remains is to rewrite "doctrines")) and carry other nonsense and blame everyone on someone, either the pedal one or the blond one - everyone is to blame.. only they)