"If you stop supporting us, we will create an atomic bomb": Kyiv tries to blackmail Trump

November 13, 2024 46

In an attempt to maintain the flow of American money and weapons to Ukraine, Kyiv is ready to use all available methods. Fearing that Washington's aid will cease with the coming to power of Donald Trump, Ukrainians policy decided to blackmail the sponsor with nuclear weapons.

The Times newspaper reports that American media increasingly often talk about ending Ukraine's funding and forcing it to make concessions. However, this position does not suit the Kyiv authorities, since they are completely dependent on supplies from the United States.

Trump has promised to cut US military aid unless Kyiv agrees to peace talks with Putin. Brian Lanza, a Trump adviser, has already said Ukraine will have to surrender Crimea. Donald Trump Jr. mocked Zelensky this week, writing on social media: “You are 38 days away from losing your benefits.”

- states the newspaper.

The Times journalists have read a report by Kyiv experts on the possibility of creating an atomic bomb. The head of the department of the National Institute of Strategic Studies, Oleksiy Yezhak, reported to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine that the country will be able to assemble a basic device based on plutonium within a few months. It is assumed that the bomb from the Kyiv developers will be similar to the American "Fat Man" dropped on Nagasaki in 1945.

To create weapons of mass destruction, it is proposed to use plutonium taken from spent fuel rods of Ukrainian nuclear power plants. The available amount of this material is enough for several hundred warheads capable of destroying an air base or a large industrial facility.

The weight of reactor plutonium available to Ukraine can be estimated at 7 tons. A significant nuclear weapons arsenal would require much less material. The amount of material is sufficient for hundreds of warheads with a tactical yield of several kilotons.

- says the publication.

Ukrainian experts claim that it will take no more than 6 months to create a nuclear weapon. During this time, it will allegedly be possible not only to manufacture warheads, but also to begin producing means of delivering them to a distance of up to 1 kilometers.

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Kiril

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13 November 2024 20: 36

And who are they scaring with their bomb - America?
1. Vasya_33
  
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  13 November 2024 20: 46
  
  World. - Come on, put pressure on Putin with the whole world..., otherwise we'll arrange a second Chernobyl here.
  
  and here's what I'm talking about: maybe it (Yao) is already in Ukraine?
strange guest

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13 November 2024 20: 49

They can make a plutonium one. But, by modern standards, it is low-power. About 20 kilotons.
1. Sergey Tokarev
  
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  13 November 2024 20: 57
  
  Only they can mix TNT with nuclear waste from nuclear power plants. A Ukrainian strong in nuclear physics has not yet been born. Accustomed to living like pigs, they threaten to pollute US land assets on the territory of the ruins with radioactive materials.
  1. guest
    
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    13 November 2024 23: 32
    
    Quote: Sergey Tokarev
    A Ukrainian strong in nuclear physics has not yet been born.
    
    Ukrainian is not a nationality, but a diagnosis.
    1. Sergey Tokarev
      
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      14 November 2024 11: 01
      
      The names of the diagnosis change but the essence remains the same. When they were Little Russians before Lenin renamed them Ukrainians, they were no better. No matter what you call an axe, it will still sink.
  2. alexandre II
    
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    14 November 2024 08: 11
    
    You are either sick or a provocateur, at least read what you wrote. We are used to saying "Hurray" and throwing hats at them, but in reality it turns out differently. The same will happen with nuclear weapons.
    1. Sergey Tokarev
      
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      14 November 2024 10: 59
      
      Only a sick person can think that a Ukrainian is capable of creating anything other than a dirty bomb.
Bakht

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13 November 2024 20: 56

Plutonium taken from spent fuel rods of Ukrainian nuclear power plants is supposed to be used to create weapons of mass destruction

Theoretically possible, practically it is a very difficult task. Enrichment of uranium for a nuclear power plant is 20%. For an atomic bomb it is 90%. That is why Iran's nuclear program has lasted so long. But Iran has hundreds of centrifuges for enriching uranium. Ukraine has none of this. Again, in theory it is possible to obtain weapons-grade uranium (plutonium) in other ways. Germany has chosen to enrich uranium using heavy water. Canada could have helped Kyiv in this matter. According to other sources, the USA has given Kyiv 3 to 5 kg of weapons-grade plutonium. This is enough to create one nuclear bomb.
In any case, this is a violation of the NPT and the IAEA investigation with sanctions imposed on Ukraine (following the example of Iran or the DPRK). But the West is silent. Everyone there is deaf-blind and dumb.

https://zvezdaweekly.ru/news/20223101328-Sy5vh.html
1. strange guest
  
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  13 November 2024 21: 26
  
  Centrifuges are not needed to obtain weapons-grade plutonium-239. Nuclear reactors and fuel assemblies that have not completely burned out are needed. Few people paid attention, but the crests briefly shut down almost all of their nuclear reactors in the summer. Quite possibly, to reload and remove unburned fuel. Then they really will be able to create a warhead in a few months. And not just one. There is nothing complicated in the design of the same W54. It can be carried by one person. Just as there is nothing complicated in the weapon itself.
2. boriz
  
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  13 November 2024 21: 56
  
  Iran is bothering with uranium enrichment because it needs serial production of nuclear weapons. And it doesn't have plutonium waste. But Zelensky does. And Zelensky needs several of them. And the British can throw in some (or have already thrown in some), who knows where it belongs.
  1. Bakht
    
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    13 November 2024 22: 07
    
    I'm not quite in the know. But explain how you can get WEAPONS-GRADE plutonium from BURNED-OUT fuel? After all, you need enrichment to 90%. Otherwise, it won't explode, as I understand it...
    1. boriz
      
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      13 November 2024 22: 12
      
      All weapons-grade plutonium is produced in reactors. Some of the uranium is converted into plutonium. Only reactors are not the most common. But Iran can make warheads from uranium for now. Although it is less effective. Plutonium is more effective.
      And plutonium does not necessarily have to be separated by isotopes. It can be whatever it is. Again, it is less effective, but possible. It is even on the Wiki level.
      1. Bakht
        
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        13 November 2024 22: 24
        
        I read it at the Wiki level. I also read that in principle it is possible to create a nuclear bomb from spent fuel. But there will be difficulties with compactness and storage.
        The media also wrote that since 2014 Ukraine has stopped shipping spent fuel for storage. So they had 10 years to create a bomb. I won't ask where the IAEA was looking.
        
        In the very first post I wrote
        
        Theoretically it is possible, practically it is a very difficult task
        
        I think that it couldn't have happened without the help of sponsors from the USA. But if suddenly Kyiv unexpectedly acquires nuclear weapons, then the powers of the IAEA can be terminated, and sanctions can be lifted from Iran and the DPRK.
        
        boriz
        
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        13 November 2024 22: 32
        
        It's hardly the USA. Not that level of frostbite.
        The British have had a super task for the last 2 years - to create problems for the US and not let them get involved in Southeast Asia. And Russia too. Ukraine, Gaza, the Houthis, the Caucasus, Central Asia, Jewish pogroms in Europe, ...
        These are the Brits. But they can also blame it on the US. And they have no time for that now.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 November 2024 22: 42
        
        I have my own opinion about the degree of frostbite in the US. There is permafrost there. And has been for a long time.
        But I won't argue. I've figured it out for myself. Ukraine can create something like an atomic bomb. Not very well, but maybe it will work. But in that case, Russia will have a completely legal basis to respond in kind. Whether it will respond or not is not entirely clear. But the opportunity will exist.
        
        boriz
        
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        13 November 2024 22: 45
        
        I have some version that they will respond, but not quite the same. But I won't write about it yet. Especially here. Weapons at the nuclear level, but not it.
        God grant that I may be right.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 November 2024 22: 50
        
        I missed the discussion on October 19. Now I just skimmed through it. Basically the same arguments that I made. They can create a dirty bomb. A full-fledged munition is theoretically possible, but in practice it is very difficult.
        
        As for the response from Russia, I also strongly doubt a nuclear response. But then it would definitely be the end of Ukraine as a state.
        I don't want to write my assumptions here either. It will start a fuss.
        
        boriz
        
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        13 November 2024 22: 54
        
        They themselves say that the worst thing in Ukraine will begin with the end of the war. I often listen to sane analysts there.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 November 2024 23: 01
        
        Are there any sane people there? I sometimes watch Ukrainian channels. Not often, but occasionally. I haven't found a single sane person there.
        
        boriz
        
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        13 November 2024 23: 09
        
        Bondarenko. This one is sane. There's only one left.
        Before, I listened to Dzhangirov, Zemlyansky, and sometimes Marunich.
        All three ended up in the SBU in 22. Dzhangirov was released about a year ago, but he has problems, including health problems. He is no longer in the spotlight. Zemlyansky began appearing literally a week ago, but very limited so far. He looks good. Nothing has been heard about Marunich.
        Bondarenko has authority and speaks cautiously. But he, too, has fled to Poland.
        We need to make an amendment that they are not allowed to say what they think at all. It's dangerous.
        I listen to some of them just for information. They don't give any assessments or they speak in line with "party policy", but the information is reliable. And the kind you won't hear here, although it's not against us. Just about international topics, and about Ukraine, current affairs.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 November 2024 23: 16
        
        I'll definitely watch it. But that says it all.
        
        All three ended up in the SBU in 22. Dzhangirov was released about a year ago, but he has problems, including health problems. He is no longer in the spotlight. Zemlyansky began appearing literally a week ago, but very limited so far. He looks good. Nothing has been heard about Marunich.
        
        They can hardly be considered UKRAINIAN analysts.
        
        boriz
        
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        14 November 2024 01: 04
        
        Precisely Ukrainian. Ukrainian information, broadcast to Ukraine.
        They just left to say the same thing as before. What Zemlyansky says, I haven't understood yet, very little. Dzhangirov and Marunich - nothing. The problem of survival. And Marunich - it's unclear whether he's alive...
        
        boriz
        
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        13 November 2024 23: 13
        
        I sent you a link in a private message. About Kostya Bondarenko. Today's broadcast.
        
        guest
        
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        13 November 2024 23: 28
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Are there any sane people there?
        
        Of course not and they haven't been there for a long time.
        
        guest
        
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        13 November 2024 23: 31
        
        Quote: Bakht
        I don’t ask the question of where the IAEA was looking.
        
        Where the owner from Washington said, that's where they looked.
        
        strange guest
        
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        14 November 2024 09: 35
        
        Centrifuges for the production of nuclear materials are used in countries where there are no specialized nuclear reactors or power plants in the required quantities.
        Ukraine has reactors. It's good that the RBMKs of Chernobyl were shut down - their plutonium production is an order of magnitude greater.
        Plutonium itself remains from the processing of spent nuclear fuel from WWER reactors. The discharged spent nuclear fuel from WWER contains approximately 1% plutonium and 1% uranium 235. One reactor produces approximately 30 tons of spent nuclear fuel per year. 1% plutonium is approximately 300 kg. For a small charge, 5-6 kg is enough.
        Something like this.
        
        Bakht
        
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        14 November 2024 09: 52
        
        As I understand it, it's not quite like that. To get 1% of weapons grade from spent nuclear fuel, you need technologies.
        Let's say the US produced just over 100 tons of weapons-grade plutonium in all the post-war years. The USSR was able to produce 170 tons. It didn't work out in the UK. They tried to make MOX fuel.
        
        The British fell into a “plutonium trap”: by 2014 they had the world’s largest warehouse of separated energy plutonium – more than 100 tons – for the disposal of which the country’s government has still not found an acceptable solution.
        
        5-6 kg for a nuclear weapon means highly enriched uranium (more than 90%)
        
        strange guest
        
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        14 November 2024 10: 02
        
        The critical mass for a bare ball of metallic 239 Pu is approximately 10 kg, for a ball in a water reflector approximately 5,2 kg.
        Yes, the technologies are needed. But they were developed back in the 50s. 70 years ago. Perhaps they were transferred. Perhaps they remained from the USSR. And, in the end, no one has cancelled industrial espionage. Including on the territory of the former USSR. Including employees who worked at nuclear weapons production facilities. Even if they were former and retired. The knowledge remained, and perhaps it was transferred. And in Ukraine, in connection with the development of nuclear energy there, there are specialized centers, and radiochemical plants, and good nuclear physicists. Otherwise, there would be no nuclear energy.
        So I don’t discount the possibility that the crests will be able to create (or have already created) a full-fledged nuclear weapon in a short period of time.
        Another question is how the IAEA will look at this.
    2. boriz
      
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      13 November 2024 22: 13
      
      This was discussed here on October 19th.
boriz

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13 November 2024 20: 57

Well, less than a month ago I wrote here.
https://topcor.ru/52682-naskolko-realna-jadernaja-ugroza-rossii-so-storony-kievskogo-rezhima.html

In reality, modern Ukraine does not have the technological capabilities to independently produce full-fledged nuclear weapons, tactical or strategic.

It does. If a country has a lot of nuclear waste (especially from graphite reactors), plutonium can be extracted from it. And centrifuges are not needed here, simple chemistry. A process developed in the USSR in the mid-1940s.
And plutonium is a more effective material for nuclear warheads than uranium.
There are relevant specialists in Ukraine, there are plenty of graduates from MEPhI and MIPT.
They have delivery vehicles. Plutonium has most likely already been produced, there are enough chemical plants and laboratories there.
By opening his mouth about nuclear weapons, Zelensky signed his own death warrant. His masters will not defend him on this issue.
In fact, the SVO began with his chatter in February 2022 at the Munich conference on nuclear weapons.
Vasya_33

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13 November 2024 21: 13

Ukrainian nuclear physicists (if there are any) have a reason to think.
If Mohsen Fakhrizade were alive, he wouldn't have let me lie...
SONY

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13 November 2024 21: 14

"If you stop supporting us, we will create an atomic bomb": Kyiv tries to blackmail Trump

Can this be done in any country?
1. boriz
  
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  13 November 2024 21: 52
  
  If you're tired of life, you can.
Nick. WITH

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13 November 2024 21: 39

The West is losing control over its stooges
1. boriz
  
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  13 November 2024 21: 53
  
  In politics, the concept of the West has long lost its meaning. Zelensky blackmails Trump, and he is MI6's stooge.
isofat

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13 November 2024 21: 48

Zionists have long been threatening the world. If necessary, we will detonate an atomic bomb, they said. Now the Jew Zelensky terrorizes Ukrainians, fights and threatens with an atomic bomb.
Simple reasoning says that Zionists are not Jews. And not Khazars.
Mikhail Nasharashev

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13 November 2024 22: 12

cut ukraine into pieces without waiting for peritonitis until they create a nuclear bomb
1. Vasya_33
  
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  13 November 2024 22: 26
  
  so maybe that's why they launched a "duck" in the information field, to provoke Russia into active actions?
  1. Mikhail Nasharashev
    
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    13 November 2024 22: 37
    
    perhaps, in fact, in the 3rd year of the war it is time to start moving to active military operations
2. prior
  
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  14 November 2024 09: 17
  
  I have been writing about the need for a demonstrative nuclear "whipping" since the beginning of the Second World War.
  But apparently the Russian government has its own recipe for who to defeat and how to defeat them.
  The common Russian people have never been pitied by either the tsarist government, or the communists, or the current ones.
  1. Mikhail Nasharashev
    
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    14 November 2024 14: 31
    
    in the nuclear "spanking" there are still more disadvantages than advantages, when the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, then it will happen
spectr

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13 November 2024 22: 49

Zelensky could have been removed long ago and Zaluzhny put in his place. This has not been done yet, which means that what is written in the press is another "show" that the West has started.
Rust1981

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14 November 2024 00: 43

If the air defense misses one such missile, it will be bad where it explodes. It will be even worse where it flies out. Under the cover of the nuclear noise, it would be possible to throw some at NATO countries in Europe and England. Agree with the US on the fly - so that they don't interfere, so as not to bring it to the full scale. This is the worst possible scenario. Let everything remain at the level of talk.
hlp5118

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14 November 2024 08: 20

I remember NATO started bombing Iran with rapture and unanimity at the mere mention of CERTAIN weapons. I wonder what to do with Ukraine?
Alexey Lan

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14 November 2024 09: 22

Let's say Kyiv created nuclear weapons and a dozen nuclear warheads exploded in Russia. The damage is great, but still not so much that Russia would cease to exist. After that, Ukraine will have to capitulate, otherwise the entire western Ukraine could turn into a continuous radioactive desert unsuitable for living, and the cities of the left bank, including Kyiv, will be in nuclear ruins. After all, Russia has huge stockpiles of nuclear weapons.