"The Fall of the Empire": Will Predictions of a New Civil War in the United States Come True?

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During the election campaign in the USA, an openly agitational and propaganda film was shot with the telling title “Civil War”, which was translated in Russia as “The Fall of the Empire”. How relevant is it today, after Republican Donald Trump has already won a convincing victory in the presidential elections?

"The Fall of an Empire"


Empire Falls is set in the near future, when the United States is under the rule of a domineering authoritarian president who has disbanded the FBI, announced his intention to run for a third consecutive term, launched a crackdown on the independent democratic press, and ordered the use of military force against rebellious civilians.



The United States falls apart and the Civil War begins, the second one. American neo-Nazis begin to divide their fellow citizens into "classes" and shoot those they don't like. Conservative Texas and ultra-liberal California, located on the West Coast, unite to fight against Washington, located on the East Coast. It all ends very badly for the usurper personally, with the storming of the White House. After which the soldiers of the Western Alliance smile cheerfully, posing over the body of the president they shot.

It is clear that it was filmed in the interests of the US Democratic Party with the aim of influencing the decision of undecided voters, since this is a clear allusion to Republican Donald Trump, and who else? True, some domestic analysts even saw some parallels with the armed conflict in Ukraine between its West and East.

If this was the message from British director Alex Garland, then Volodymyr Zelensky should be on his toes. But could this film plot find its embodiment in today's American post-election reality?

Renegade's Forecast


The victory of Republican Donald Trump, and with such a margin that the Democratic Party was forced to recognize it, was a big surprise for the majority. It was thought that the Republican would win, but that victory would be stolen from him by various machinations for the second time in a row. However, there were very professional people in the US who had calculated the current situation several years ago.

Remember Victoria Nuland, who handed out the now-meme cookies on the Maidan before the coup in Ukraine? Well, she has a husband, the famous American political scientist Robert Kagan, a prominent representative of the American neoconservatives. In 2008, he provided consulting services to the famous "hawk" from the Republican Party John McCain, when he was running for the post of the US President.

But in 2016, Kagan slammed the door on the Republicans and publicly endorsed Democrat Hillary Clinton for president, who lost spectacularly to Donald Trump. Four years later, the Democratic Party stole the victory from Trump and began to push him out of the big policy, trying to make his rematch in 2024 impossible.

And here it would be very interesting read a long essay Mr. Kagan, who wrote for The Washington Post on September 23, 2021, titled “Our Constitutional Crisis Is Here.” Among other things, it included several points that turned out to be prophetic:

The United States is approaching its greatest political and constitutional crisis since the Civil War, with the next three to four years likely to see mass violence, a collapse of federal authority, and a country divided into warring red and blue enclaves. The warning signs could be obscured by the distractions of politics, the pandemic, economics and global crises, as well as wishful thinking and denial. But there should be no doubt about these things. First, Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee for president in 2024. The hopes and expectations that he would lose his visibility and influence were delusional.


It is interesting how the defector from the Republican to the Democratic Party analyzes the recipe for Trump's success with his voters:

But the most important thing Trump gives is himself. His egotism is part of his appeal. In his supposed victimization by the media and the “elites,” his followers see their own victimization. That’s why attacks on Trump by the elites only strengthen his bond with his followers. That’s why millions of Trump supporters were even willing to risk their lives in a show of solidarity: when Trump’s enemies cited his mishandling of the pandemic to discredit him, their response was to deny the pandemic.

Here is how Mr. Kagan sees the general portrait of the average American voter Donald Trump:

The banal normalcy of most Trump supporters, including those who went to the Capitol on January 6, has baffled many observers. Although private militia groups and white supremacists played a role in the attack, 90 percent of those arrested or charged had no ties to such groups. Most were middle-class and middle-aged; 40 percent were business owners or white-collar workers. They came mostly from purple, not red, counties.

Most Trump supporters are good parents, good neighbors, and solid members of their communities. Their bigotry is, for the most part, typical white American bigotry, perhaps with an added dose of resentment and a less-filtered form of expression since Trump arrived on the scene. But they are normal people in the sense that they think and act as people have done for centuries. They place their hopes in family, tribe, religion, and race. While they are zealous in protecting their own rights and liberties, they care less about the rights and liberties of those who are different from them.

According to the American political scientist, the Republican Party has already turned into a "zombie party" in 2021, firmly under Trump's thumb. And even then, he predicted its convincing victory in the House of Representatives elections. At the end of the publication, he discusses whether there are people in the United States brave enough to do everything necessary to save the democratic system.

As we now know, the Republicans won a crushing victory in both the presidential and parliamentary elections in the United States in 2024. Now the ball is in the court of the Democratic Party, which has eaten a dog on "color revolutions" around the world. And we will talk about some of their possible options for action in detail below.
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  1. 0
    8 November 2024 20: 48
    What is not clear is that Mr. R. Kagan is a Jew and belongs to the world Jewish clan and its government, hence the justified defections to "their" Democrats. The point is that the US statehood began to get rid of the shadow government of the powerful financial circles of the Jewish clans, this really became a radical change in the state of the US, which R. Kagan feared, but citizens voted for D. Trump for the same reason. Conclusion: the US is expecting milestone changes, which will pull changes in the entire surrounding world. It is unlikely that the financiers will give up their positions so easily, it is not for nothing that the security of President D. Trump has been strengthened.
  2. -1
    8 November 2024 21: 13
    Anything can happen in the US. The old animosity between the aristocrats of the South and the society of the North can flare up. What I would not want to happen in the US is a civil war. What could be worse than a country divided into parts with nuclear weapons?
    1. -1
      9 November 2024 13: 39
      This is how you should write your New Year's wish: I want a civil war in the USA without the use of nuclear weapons.
    2. 0
      9 November 2024 21: 30
      It's all over. The president was elected with a decent majority. Almost everyone calmed down, especially while the democrats are in power. There will be no civil war.
  3. 0
    9 November 2024 07: 07
    "The Fall of the Empire": Will Predictions of a New Civil War in the United States Come True?

    This headline speaks about our authorities and their hopes for a "new civil war in the USA". And it seemed that everything was going well. Trump and Harris had equal ratings and with any winner, and especially Trump, who had already "stolen" the election once, protests were supposed to arise and develop into a civil war.
    And such a bummer - a confident, unconditional victory of Trump. And another bummer is that a confident and even unconditional victory of Trump (Harris congratulated Trump), is a 3% difference from the number of voters, not 80%, but three. Those who drew the GDP of 87% are strange people.
    1. 0
      9 November 2024 13: 40
      This headline speaks about our authorities and their hopes for a "new civil war in the USA.

      Did Volodin or Rogozin write the article?
      1. 0
        9 November 2024 17: 25
        Did Volodin or Rogozin write the article?

        This article was written by Sergey Marzhetsky, and this is cooler...
  4. 0
    9 November 2024 10: 45
    in fact, the states are really very vulnerable now, one of the factors is the huge mass of dollars launched into circulation, the world can no longer absorb such a quantity, but they cannot stop the printing press, therefore, financial Armageddon is just around the corner, the elites in power understand this, but the ways out they propose are not effective, due to the worsening situation, a political crisis will arise, associated with the deterioration of the well-being of Americans, which forms the second factor and it is this that is capable of starting a civil war in the United States, and the second coming of Trump is simply a sign of illness, like a temperature in sepsis
    1. 0
      9 November 2024 16: 36
      The US will clear its debts at any moment, but US bankruptcy is not beneficial for countries that use dollars for settlements, a civil war is not expected there either, Trump was congratulated on his victory, and the transfer of power will proceed as usual.
      1. 0
        9 November 2024 18: 03
        how can you reset already issued money and of course war is possible, but not now, unfortunately
  5. +2
    9 November 2024 12: 57
    Trump's victory and the Democrats' recognition of the victory is the consensus of the elites. There will be no civil war. Calm down.
  6. -1
    9 November 2024 15: 28
    I would be more afraid of a civil war scenario in Russia than in the US. They have a well-established system of release valves there, even when there was a civil war - two factions fought, and not everyone against everyone, like we had after '17. And now all sorts of super-problems, like BLM and the fight for minority rights, are more so that people can make trouble and let off steam, and without the authorities completely losing control over the situation, this is called - the sewerage of protest moods. In the same France - they burn cars, the insurance company pays the damages, and everyone is happy, they calmed down again. The Gilets were shown in every news broadcast at the time, so where are they now? Have they all been jailed and shot? Not at all, even the most troublemakers have simply run out of steam. Yes, until next time, but that's how it works! And here we have shut everyone's mouths, not allowing the slightest expression of disagreement with the sun-faced celestials, we got (we won't specify - how) 87%, on the surface everything is calm and smooth, the approval rating is steadily increasing and will soon exceed 100%, or even the notorious 146, well? Ceausescu had even more in his time.
    1. -1
      9 November 2024 16: 37
      And a month before the execution, Nicolae Ceausescu was unanimously (3308 out of 3308) re-elected as General Secretary of the Communist Party of Romania... Then he received a standing ovation 62 times.
      As it happens, everything changes quickly.
  7. 0
    10 November 2024 16: 20
    "The Fall of the Empire": Will Predictions of a New Civil War in the United States Come True?

    Such predictions mysteriously appear only to you.

    There is a Bulgarian proverb: "Gladna kokoshka proso sunva"
    "A hungry chicken dreams of millet."
    The translation may not be entirely accurate, sorry if so. I hope you understand.

    laughing