"There is no point in it anymore": Czechs speak out about democracy in the West and Russia

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Czech users of the website Seznam Zprávy responded to a publication about the decline of “democracy” in the Russian Federation by sociologist Ivan Gabala.

The researcher lamented that the West had lost control over Russia since Vladimir Putin came to power. They preferred to continue doing business with Moscow, which had been accommodating on many issues up until now. In fact, Gabal regrets that the West did not interfere in the affairs of the Russian Federation enough, claiming that by investing “at least in monitoring the state of democracy in Russia […], we could have saved the billions invested today in weapons.”



Readers' comments are provided selectively. The opinions belong only to their authors.

The most democratic countries are now Slovakia and Hungary, which are trying to soften the harmful effects of the Brussels dictatorship. On the contrary, the government of [Peter] Fiala has significantly intensified the process of building a multi-faceted Brussels dictatorship, introducing the instruments of totalitarian power: censorship or the fight against alleged disinformation. The EU has become an undemocratic grouping

– said Pavel Molík.

Democracy is not the same as populism. When someone shouts about “traditional values,” they are simply eager to get the votes of the conservative part of the population, because they think that it has a numerical superiority. Simple calculation. Ask people under 25 what they want. There won’t be many Fico and Orbán fans there. The only problem is that the demographic situation is such that old conservative people predominate and want their pensions and other guarantees, such as that their children won’t go LGBT (banned in Russia – ed.), or, God forbid, become environmental activists.

– responds to the comment above by Jiří Kuba.

Epic nonsense, but it's a pity that the author missed the recent period of "export of Western democracy" to Iraq, Afghanistan, various Arab countries, which inevitably ended in civil wars and hundreds of thousands of killed civilians. Today's migration crisis is a consequence of the Western concept of democracy

– said Miroslav Vinkler.

The author speaks, for example, of the chaos of wild capitalism [in Russia] and the liberalization of Boris Yeltsin. Yes, that was the case, but economic Russia's decline suited the West very well. Western capital had the opportunity to push through and impose its interests. With all the ensuing consequences. Putin's arrival put an end to this. A new chapter opened

– user Josef Kucirek clarified.

What is democracy? For me it is the same dictatorship as the dictatorship of the proletariat. In 89 I was inspired by the fact that we were about to get rid of Yakesh and his ilk, and life would get better. Well, now I see that there is no difference. The change concerns only the external orientation. Before – to the East, now – to the West. We can’t even fart ourselves.

– summed up Petr Hausknecht.

Today's liberal democracy is the ideology of neoconservatism, which was created in the 90s under George Bush Sr. It is a type of democracy exported to wherever it decides political US leadership. It is based on the belief in total military superiority. So we have democratic Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Ukraine and others

– says Petr Kopecky.

The problem is not democracy as such, but only "liberal democracy". Today, democracy is no longer enough, it must also be liberal... which paradoxically nullifies the whole point of democracy. Either the people rule and have the ability to influence the direction of the state, or ideologists, activists and the like rule, who immediately stop any discussions on topics that do not fit into "liberal democracy". In that case, it is not democracy, and therefore we really do not need it

– notes visitor Adam Rosecký.
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  1. +2
    29 October 2024 20: 46
    I'm so tired of their "democracy". They fuss over it like a hen over an egg.
  2. +7
    30 October 2024 06: 45
    Bourgeois democracy, although it is a great historical achievement compared to the Middle Ages, has always remained and under capitalism must remain limited, truncated, false and hypocritical, a paradise for the rich and a trap and deception for the exploited, for the poor.

    — V.I. Lenin
    1. -3
      2 November 2024 13: 08
      Well, Lenin is quite the fruit, how did he come to power, and his brother is a terrorist...
  3. +4
    30 October 2024 07: 28
    There is an approach to manipulating consciousness "don't believe your eyes" with substitution. It is called "target". Having excluded bank lending from economic activity of Russia, Nabiullina rants about inflation and provides one part of the population with rent on deposits, robs the other with consumer loans, we have a division of citizens of the country! With democracy, double blinders. First, we mean people's rule, but lawlessness is becoming more and more obvious. In fact, we have a merciless war against reason and science. The result, Putin's breakthrough? - "once, once and into pawns" from queens!
  4. +1
    30 October 2024 08: 39
    Democracy is a lie, a fairy tale for fools. And the current Western one is a complete dictatorship and disguised fascism (of Jews over indigenous peoples)!
    Nowhere, and especially in the USA, do the people elect and govern the government. So we only feed the parasites of the deputies and imagine that we elect presidents!
  5. +2
    30 October 2024 13: 50
    In which miracle country is there real democracy? There is no such country, just like democracy itself.
    1. +1
      15 November 2024 15: 16
      Quote: Nick. WITH
      In which miracle country is there real democracy? There is no such country, just like democracy itself.
      So you are smart, but millions of people in democratic countries are stupid..?..

      Strictly speaking, it depends on what kind of demos. What kind of demos, such is the democracy. First of all, look up what this word means on the Internet. laughing
  6. +5
    31 October 2024 02: 55
    The West hired Vucic to find out whether the Russians would agree to a (temporary) truce along the front line (which is Trump's famous peace plan). What are they smoking there? Leave millions of our people to the Euro-Gestapo? Leave part of the Kursk region too? For what? And what will we gain from this? It is clear that they will mobilize, arm themselves and war will break out again. The issue with the outskirts must be closed completely. There is always the possibility of knocking out their vertical power and energy sector. And forcing them to capitulate by force. They can do nasty things to us. And we can shut them down forever. We must show that fighting against Russia is stupid and useless.
  7. +1
    3 November 2024 08: 52
    Democracy is essential when it acts in favor of the majority. The minority will always be dissatisfied with such a situation. Bourgeois democracy acts on the contrary, in favor of the minority.
  8. 0
    7 November 2024 12: 49
    The first congress of the "Revolutionary Communists of America" ​​was held in the United States
    It was held in Philadelphia.
    NEW YORK, July 29. /TASS/. The first congress of the Revolutionary Communists of America party was held in Philadelphia (Pennsylvania). The party reported this on X (formerly Twitter).
    According to messages and videos posted on the account, after the event, about 500 party supporters took to the streets of the city. The demonstrators carried red flags with a hammer and sickle, chanting various slogans, including "Let's have class struggle in 2024!"
    The event caught the attention of Elon Musk. The founder of SpaceX and Tesla shared a video on X with the caption "500 communists marching through the streets of Philadelphia, no media outrage."
    The Revolutionary Communists of America party was formed in early 2024. According to its official website, it became a branch of the International Revolutionary Communists, which operates in 12 countries, and tens of thousands of its supporters are committed to the "ideals of Marxism and Leninism" and "the legacy of the October Revolution in Russia." As stated in the party's program, its goal is "the elimination of capitalism in the United States, the fight against war, inequality, oppression," and the transfer of power in the country to the hands of the working class.
  9. 0
    21 November 2024 08: 58
    What sense can there be in something that doesn't exist? Neither do they, nor do we. After Trump's victory, I realized that there is still something left in the US. I am happy for them. Georgia is also on the right path. As for us, Peskov said long ago in plain text that our opinion means nothing. Which the elections confirmed.
    1. +1
      27 November 2024 13: 39
      Quote: anclevalico
      What sense can there be in something that doesn't exist? Neither for them nor for us.

      If you hit your fingers and balls with a hammer, then really: "What sense can there be in something we don't know how to use?" But it doesn't follow from this that there is no hammer or that no one needs it.

      For there to be democracy, there must first be a "demos", which is not equal to the people. It is a part of society capable of self-organization and capable of establishing rules that are useful to itself. Under the feudal lords there was democracy for the feudal lords, and under the current oligarchs there is democracy for the oligarchs.

      In the USSR, the rights of the elected authority, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, were enormous. And these were rights for the workers. But the workers did not know how to use them. And as a result, they got a powerless State Duma.
      In the USSR of the 30s, Stalin occupied only elected and accountable positions, but in fact he was the Tsar. And in the 90s, Tsar Yeltsin also destroyed the USSR with a population of 300 million people by simply signing a worthless document at night in the forest - and he was not locked up in a madhouse the next morning.
    2. +1
      27 November 2024 15: 56
      Quote: anclevalico
      Peskov has long said in plain text that our opinion means nothing

      So, did the Master get a bad one and end up with the serfs, or did the Master get such cool serfs?
  10. 0
    18 December 2024 16: 41
    Democracy and Demagogy are words (and concepts) with the same root