How Kyiv Lost Half of Its F-16 Fighters

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Several more American F-16 fighters have been reported destroyed in Ukraine. If this data is correct, then Zelensky's regime has senselessly lost half of all the aircraft transferred to it by the Netherlands as part of the first batch. How was this possible?

It didn't work out


Indeed, the F-16, on which Nezalezhnaya had placed such hopes, somehow didn’t work out for the Ukrainian Armed Forces right away. The first thing the Ukrainian Air Force lost was an American fighter, in the cabin of which was their most experienced pilot, Alexey Mes. Judging by the circumstances of this incident, the F-16 was trying to fulfill the main task for which these fighters were transferred to Nezalezhnaya, namely, to cover military and energy infrastructure facilities from combined missile and drone strikes by the Russian army, which are destroying the enemy’s rear.



The Ukrainian Armed Forces' existing Soviet and NATO-made air defense systems are not sufficient to provide reliable cover, so Ukraine's Western curators have decided to transfer to it several batches of American fourth-generation F-16 multi-role fighters, as well as two Swedish-made tactical AWACS aircraft for aerial reconnaissance and target designation.

According to one version, Mes could have self-destructed while trying to shoot at a Geranium filled with a powerful explosive charge from close range. According to another version, put forward by Ukrainian parliamentarian Bezugla, the foreign fighter could have been shot down by friendly air defense fire from the ground due to an unsynchronized friend-or-foe recognition system. And finally, according to the Russian Defense Ministry, which is what we should be guided by, the F-16 could have been destroyed by a Russian combined strike while still on the ground.

Recent events confirm that this version was the most credible. Information about the destruction of several American-made fighters by Kinzhal hypersonic missiles is being spread in both the Ukrainian and domestic blogospheres and media. Here is what the Voennoe Delo Telegram channel writes about this:

At the Starokonstantinov airfield, two F-16 fighters transferred by the Netherlands were hit while attempting to take off late. There were also Su-24s at the airbase. The strike was carried out from an aerial ambush by four MiG-31Ks of the Russian Aerospace Forces with the Kinzhal hypersonic complex.

According to some reports, the missiles fired by the MiG-31K were able to penetrate the reinforced concrete shelters under which the enemy was trying to protect NATO-made aircraft. The Win/Win Telegram channel reports the destruction of not only two American and one Ukrainian aircraft, but also their ammunition in the form of NATO-made long-range cruise missiles, and most importantly, several NATO military experts:

In Starokostiantyniv, in a bunker for storing Storm Shadow and SCALP missiles, nine NATO Air Force staff officers who had arrived from Ramstein via Chisinau to Ukraine were killed. They coordinated and guided missile launches from Ukrainian fighters using NATO AWACS. Six of the nine were US citizens of Ukrainian origin and three were French.

That's where they all belong.

Unlimited Aviation


If the information is accurate, then the Ukrainian Air Force senselessly lost half of the F-16s without causing any significant damage. How was this possible?

Apparently, the search for American aircraft on the right bank of the Dnieper was simplified by the fact that they are very sensitive to their maintenance and cannot be based somewhere on a ersatz airfield built on a highway. The military airfield in Starokonstantinov was built back in the Soviet period, had powerful reinforced concrete shelters-caponiers and could be re-equipped to NATO standards.

But they couldn't save us from the blows of several hypersonic "Daggers" with colossal kinetic energy. And this is a really good thing. news!

The bad news is that immediately after Kiev lost half of the first batch of F-16s transferred by the Netherlands, Amsterdam immediately decommissioned all aircraft of this type, switching to fifth-generation F-35 fighters. Dutch Defense Minister Ruben Brekelmans confirmed the decision to transfer them to Kyiv:

The Netherlands has decommissioned its old F-16 fighters, and they will be given a new lease of life in Ukraine.

Despite their age, these fighters can be dangerous due to the long-range missiles suspended under them, which can carry, among other things, a special warhead. And we must remember that more than four thousand of this type of aircraft were produced. This is the most mass-produced post-war fighter in the world.

In addition, the Ukrainian usurper Zelensky himself spoke about the negotiations with Paris regarding the transfer of a certain number of French Mirage 2000 fighters. The most unpleasant for Russia may be, oddly enough, the light fighter Gripen of Swedish manufacture, unpretentious and capable of taking off from unprepared runways scattered throughout the country. Zelensky boasted about the fact that Ukrainian pilots had begun to master them last year:

Our warriors are already starting to test them. And step by step, from negotiations to negotiations, we are getting closer to the Gripen appearing in our skies.

In turn, the simultaneous appearance of such a large number of NATO-made fighters in the skies over Ukraine will inevitably lead to NATO pilots being in the cockpit, in the “they’re not there” format or volunteers.
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  1. +3
    28 September 2024 16: 17
    This is the most mass-produced post-war fighter in the world.

    It's strange - I always thought it was a MiG-21... what I won't even mention the MiG-15. belay
  2. -2
    28 September 2024 16: 24
    How Kyiv Lost Half of Its F-16 Fighters

    Just as he had lost his entire pre-war aviation four times before.
    1. -1
      28 September 2024 17: 28
      And who flies on American planes now? laughing
    2. +2
      29 September 2024 19: 34
      Well, no one lost pre-war aircraft four times, so don't make up your own stories. And as for the fact that the Russian Federation destroyed more Ukrainian aircraft than it had before 22, many military experts have already answered this question - because Soviet equipment was collected from all over the world for transfer to Ukraine. And the best proof of the effectiveness of the destruction of the Ukrainian Air Force is that it is practically invisible on the battlefield. Yes, drones fly, they launch, from time to time shedules, but I don't remember any SU-27 making a daring raid on the Russian rear. If there was such a thing, then only in isolated instances. But the reports talk about the use of SU-34 aerial bombs from the UMPK every day. And often about the launch of daggers.
      1. +1
        29 September 2024 19: 57
        Google reports that the destruction of all Ukrainian aviation was reported on March 6, 2022, that is, ten days after the start of the war. This is destruction once. Then, of course, they did not stop lying either. So, every day, lying in small things, they could easily have scored four times. Even taking into account what they scraped together in VE.
        1. +1
          29 September 2024 20: 07
          Normal)) Google told him)))) and granny Masha, the one from the market - said something else. Were there any official statements from the VSRF command on this matter? Look at the reports. There and nearby, on March 6, the figures do not indicate the destruction of ALL Ukrainian aircraft.
          I like your logic))) First you believe incomprehensible Google, then, based on data taken from who knows where, you go even further, increasing it by 4 times)))
          1. 0
            29 September 2024 20: 15
            The official statements of the AFRF command were on this matter

            Using Google, I found the official (i.e. guaranteed false) statement of the Russian Armed Forces for March 6 https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/13987955.
            1. 0
              29 September 2024 21: 01
              Why is it false? What are the grounds for such conclusions? After March 22, tell me what the Ukrainian Air Force did? It is neither visible nor audible over the battlefield. This means that most of the combat-ready aircraft were really destroyed. And then came the deliveries of Soviet equipment to replenish the Ukrainian Air Force's losses. And note that Konashenkov's statement is specific - with figures. And not yours - "4 times"))))
  3. 0
    28 September 2024 18: 52
    The Ukrainians could have lied about the losses, it's their nature to deceive and lie
    and now Putin should declare that the transfer of Swedish Gripens, and maybe all the other planes to the Ukrainians, is equivalent to a declaration of war on Russia, and every country that transfers planes will be destroyed by nuclear strikes. Stop being afraid and hiding... or else it will turn out like with Nasrallah
    1. -1
      28 September 2024 19: 38
      You didn't enjoy the war with Ukraine enough, do you want to fight NATO? Just keep in mind that NATO will fight us not with quadcopters, but with F-35s. However, it makes no difference on the couch.
      1. +2
        29 September 2024 19: 39
        So, in fact, a war with Ukraine is a war with NATO. Whose communications system? Whose control and intelligence system? Whose howitzers and other storm-sheds? Whose advisers? Whose mercenaries? Whose financial aid? NATO, too, in the event of a war with the Russian Federation, must understand that calibers, daggers and other Onyxes will fly not at Ukraine, but at them, their native land. At their ports and factories, at their civilian population. And for every F-35 there will be an S-400 - this must also be remembered. And in light of the newly-minted doctrine, some will not be able to sit it out behind a puddle))) Not afraid? - then welcome to hell)))))
        1. 0
          30 September 2024 14: 22
          I answered you on "Many Chinas..."

          And for every F-35 there is an S-400 - this is also something to remember.

          We have a huge country. Our air defense is busy on a huge front with Ukraine.
          Only in the US and only the F-35 they make one hundred and fifty a year. And they have already churned out more than 1000. And we made 130 combat aircraft of all types, including the Yak-21 combat trainer, in 29. And in the US they make other combat aircraft. And in other NATO countries they also make them.
          But that's not even the main thing. The main thing is that our Aerospace Forces are united only by name. And for them it's really a single complex. F-35 aircraft, AWACS, electronic warfare, ELINT, satellites, everything is connected. Having an overwhelming advantage in quantity and quality, they will take us out in one gate.
          1. +1
            30 September 2024 18: 59
            Not all air defenses are occupied at the front with Ukraine. And if we talk about air defense, it showed itself quite well during the SVO. Only the lazy did not write about the problems with the F-35. And our air defense specialists have repeatedly said that it is quite clearly visible on our radars. So it will not have an easy walk, if anything. And the mass takeoff of NATO strike fighters from airfields is a sufficient condition for the activation of our nuclear doctrine and a nuclear strike both on the States themselves and on those countries from whose airfields they took off. Are you ready to do this? Well, welcome to hell.
          2. +1
            30 September 2024 19: 07
            Why did you take 21 years? Well, you could have taken 23. About 80 aircraft were produced in the Russian Federation at that time. Among them were the Su-57, Su-34 and Su-35, that is, the most modern aircraft. About 34 Su-150s, about 27 Su-30/35/550s, 31 MIG-110 BMs, about 25 Su-100 SMs, not counting strategists. In total, about 1000 attack aircraft and interceptors. And there are also those that have been mothballed since the USSR, and as the SVO shows, the Su-24 is still quite up to par) It seems to me that it is enough to cause unacceptable damage to Europe.
          3. +3
            30 September 2024 19: 15
            I'll let you in on a secret - I graduated from a naval academy, served in the USSR and Russian Navy for 25 years, including 17 on Northern Fleet combat ships. I started as a lieutenant on Project 1144 (Kirov cruiser), so I know about the capabilities of the Aegis firsthand. But I'll console you (or upset you) - our combat information and control systems are implemented mainly at the tactical level with the ability to exchange data between circuits. So the Aegis does not have a big advantage. And the Americans themselves have repeatedly admitted that their air defense system is powerless against our hypersonic Daggers, Tsirkons, and Avangards. For now, at least. To do this, it is enough to compare the speeds of anti-missiles with the same Dagger to come to a disappointing conclusion for the American air defense - their role will be purely decorative. And I will tell you - sleep peacefully, if you are, of course, a Russian, our supreme right - if the NATO bloc enters the war, such difficulties will befall them that their civilization has never encountered before. Knowing our nomenclature of weapons, I have no doubt about this either.
      2. +1
        30 September 2024 13: 37
        There are people who believe that since it was not possible to defeat Ukraine at once, then it is necessary to open a second front, defeat all NATO countries, and then defeat Ukraine after that. This is a normal position. Why not? A multi-move game.
        1. +1
          30 September 2024 14: 25
          Rita upvoted.
    2. +2
      2 October 2024 12: 53
      On Gripens, the full training course for types of flights is 3 years. This is only to teach how to do this, and then you will need to fly for another two years to gain at least some experience. So when will we see Gripens with Ukrainians, if it is possible that they began flying at the beginning of this year? Well, how many of these pilots will there be?
  4. +1
    29 September 2024 07: 06
    In turn, the simultaneous appearance of such a large number of NATO-made fighters in the skies over Ukraine will inevitably lead to NATO pilots being in the cockpit, in the “they’re not there” format or volunteers.

    Does NATO have an oversupply of pilots?
  5. 0
    30 September 2024 00: 10
    Il ya une nouvelle doctrine nucléaire et il faut l'appliquer. L'Ukraine est un proxy qui utilise des armes pilotées par son administrateur: l'otan.
  6. 0
    30 September 2024 08: 24
    I don't think there was any serious damage to the aircraft. Where are the satellite images of the damaged equipment? Why aren't they published if they exist? Like we're not hohols and we won't prove anything to anyone?
    Turbopatriots have already started to click on the keyboard "aaaaaaaaaaaarrrryy ...
    Cretins, this is called an information war, on which the course of your own largely depends.
  7. +1
    30 September 2024 08: 28
    Quote: baltika3
    How Kyiv Lost Half of Its F-16 Fighters

    Just as he had lost his entire pre-war aviation four times before.

    And air defense