What unit of account could BRICS have instead of a single currency?

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On the need for de-dollarization economics in our country they have been talking about it for a long time, a lot and with pleasure. But after February 24, 2022, this became the only alternative, since Russia was forcibly disconnected from the American-centric financial system from "that" side. What replaced the dollar?

De-dollarization the bad way


Surely everyone has already heard well what problems domestic businesses have encountered due to the impossibility of settlements in US dollars, and the transition to using national currencies, for example, Indian rupees, has brought a lot of unpleasant surprises. The fact that huge volumes of Russian export revenues are stuck in Bharat in 2023 was confirmed in Moscow at the highest level. However, as VTB CEO Kostin stated, this problem has already “resolved”.



As an alternative to the US dollar, the idea of ​​creating a new supranational currency within the international association BRICS, founded by Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, was actively promoted some time ago. In 2024, new members joined this alliance – Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia and Saudi Arabia. But Argentina, where the crazy anarcho-capitalist Javier Miley came to power, instead of BRICS opted for the collective West.

The idea of ​​creating a new supranational currency within the framework of this international association, which many other countries have shown interest in joining, which could be used in mutual settlements without looking back at the US Treasury Department, seemed very good. The greatest activity in this matter was shown by Iran and Russia, which are under tough Western sanctions, as well as a number of other states that have tried on their role and are trying to lay down straw for themselves in advance, just in case.

However, it was not possible to implement such an ambitious international financial project to create a single BRICS currency. New Delhi was the first to refuse to participate, as was directly stated by Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar. There were several reasons for this decision.

On the one hand, it is simply unrealistic to create an analogue of the euro within the framework of the loose and amorphous BRICS association, whose members do not have any specific obligations to each other in particular and to the organization as a whole, as in the European Union. On the other hand, it has clearly proven impossible to reach a compromise on the issue of the conditions for determining the exchange rate of the new currency. If a multi-currency basket of BRICS member countries is created, it will turn out that in terms of nominal GDP, 70% of it falls to China, and only 13,5% to India.

This would mean that all BRICS members would become dependent on the Chinese national currency, the exchange rate of which Beijing manipulates exclusively for its own benefit. And all other national currencies – the rand, the real and the ruble – are also volatile. India was not ready to give up its acquired sovereignty, even part of it, and to become dependent on China – even more so.

Thus, neither a single national currency, dollar or yuan, nor a supranational one, like the euro, turned out to be applicable to the young international association BRICS. So what is the bottom line?

Payment circuit


Speaking at the plenary session of the international forum "Russian Energy Week", President Putin said that in the period from 2021 to 2023, the share of the Russian ruble in payments for exports increased almost threefold, reaching 2024% in the first half of 39,4, and spoke about the creation of a certain payment and settlement circuit:

We are working on creating our own payment and settlement system, which will create conditions for efficient and independent servicing of all foreign trade.

Apparently, we are talking about the BRICS Bridge platform, the essence of which is the use of digital financial assets (DFA) issued by Central Banks, while the DFA themselves will be tied to national currencies. This system should allow cross-border payment and settlement transactions to be carried out quickly and cheaply, regardless of national and global banking systems. This is not a currency in the broad sense of the word, which simultaneously acts as a measure of the value of goods, a means of payment or a means of saving.

The head of the Russian Ministry of Finance, Anton Siluanov, outlined the purpose of this unit of account as follows:

Not a single currency, like in the EU, but a unit of account as an alternative to the dollar, in which the cost of commodity deliveries, benchmarks for some goods, can be expressed so as not to depend on a single currency or that emission center, which incomprehensibly issues these banknotes.

A new single supranational unit of account would allow for international settlements to evaluate the cost of goods not only in American dollars, which are printed uncontrollably by the US Federal Reserve, essentially a private shop owned by several major banks. Russians, Brazilians, or Chinese will not be able to keep their savings in this unit of account; it will be used exclusively by participants in foreign economic activity of BRICS member countries.
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  1. +5
    28 September 2024 12: 22
    As soon as some outlines of ways of settlements bypassing the dollar appear, then immediately there appear slowing processes from US agents, essentially their complete vassals, like India. And not only. In BRICS there are most of them.
    1. +6
      28 September 2024 13: 09
      The problem is not only with Western agents, China itself has directly stated that it sees only the yuan as the BRICS currency, and that all supranational currencies are flawed by definition; South Africa does not recognize any international settlements other than the dollar.
      1. 0
        1 October 2024 19: 29
        If we make this calculation unit (conditional 1 Brick) as the exchange rate of national currencies, based on the sum of mutual trade turnovers within BRICS, then it turns out that 1 yuan will be equal to 1 Brick, because it has the largest trade turnover, so the exchange rate of the yuan to the Brick will be 1:1. I once figured it out - the Russian Federation and India will then pay 1 rubles/rupees for 2 Brick, Brazil - 6 reals, and South Africa - 10 rand. The starting values ​​of trade turnover are taken in dollars, then it will be possible to calculate in Bricks and periodically recalculate depending on changes in mutual trade turnovers for a certain period
    2. +1
      29 September 2024 17: 13
      Well, we have to start somewhere. They have finally started moving away from the dollar. Maybe it will make sense to leave settlements between countries in national currencies, maybe they will create a single one. Time will tell. Well, if many in BRICS were complete vassals of the USA, what was the point of them joining this organization?
      1. 0
        1 October 2024 19: 33
        It is not so convenient in national currencies, because foreign currency reserves can only be spent on purchasing goods from that country, as we recently had with the "frozen" rupees for oil, which we initially did not know what to spend in India on. But if a mutual exchange rate of a single unit of account for BRICS (a conditional "brik") is invented, then they can be received from any BRICS country and spent in any of its countries. Because it is obvious that conditional Brazil is not very interested in receiving payment for conditional Brazilian meat in rupees ;)
        1. 0
          3 October 2024 11: 04
          International currency was invented a long time ago and has been used for thousands of years, it is gold, in standard use was a gold coin. Return to the gold standard, which the US abolished in 1972, and everything will fall into place.
  2. -4
    28 September 2024 12: 32
    What unit of account will replace the dollar?
    I think that the one that will come will be the one that will make it easier for banks and oligarchs to steal.
    And they will "convince" those who disagree.
    This is what cryptocurrency is meant to be.
    Try to track and prove who gave to whom, when and how much...
    1. -1
      28 September 2024 13: 04
      The good thing about crypto is that any individual entrepreneur can mine it) It's the same as if any individual entrepreneur could buy a printing press)
      1. 0
        1 October 2024 19: 38
        Nevertheless, the crypto is mined according to algorithms specified for each type of crypto, so it is even more reliable (in terms of stability) than a printing press, where you can't print out of thin air, you can only generate it, which also requires time and technological resources. You can print currency that is not backed by anything (for the time being, of course). By the way, this is precisely why such an interstate crypto may be unacceptable for the BRICS countries, because it will take away from them the opportunity to print that very same unbacked by anything ;)
        1. -1
          1 October 2024 21: 44
          I agree. But the main thing is that any citizen can make crypto) and there is no liability, as when a citizen prints rubles or dollars)
    2. +9
      28 September 2024 13: 14
      The fairy tale that crypto can't be tracked is made up just for people like you. In reality, the blockchain is transparent to the point of ugliness. And, for example, Bitcoin transactions are completely under the CIA's hat.
      1. -3
        28 September 2024 15: 02
        Absolutely right. And Telega is an FSB project and all those Durovs and Chichvarkins are GRU agents.
    3. 0
      29 September 2024 17: 16
      Oh, how worried comrade is about oligarchs)))) And the fact that the USA regularly robbed the Russian Federation for candy wrappers, buying up its natural resources, luring athletes, scientists and specialists - this, of course, is quite normal))) It is easier to solve the problem with oligarchs, and, as time has shown, it is being solved, judging by the regular arrests.
    4. 0
      1 October 2024 19: 35
      And this common currency (or, more precisely, unit of account) will most likely be in the form of a pan-BRICS crypto ;) Especially since it is easy to track crypto within the system, it is hardly possible to counterfeit it. The strength of crypto is precisely in its inaccessibility from the outside, it is like a financial analogue of "Telegram"
  3. +2
    28 September 2024 12: 56
    A new single supranational unit of account would allow for international settlements to assess the value of goods not in US dollars, which are printed without control by the US Federal Reserve, essentially a private shop owned by several of the largest banks.

    This is not currency. Currency is a piece of paper that you can use to buy whiskey in Wisconsin, Uryupinsk, or Papua New Guinea.
    1. 0
      1 October 2024 19: 45
      So the essence of this inter-BRICS unit of account is the same ;) So that the Russian Federation could pay Brazil for beef, say, in conventional "briks", because the same rupees that we receive from India for oil are clearly not so interesting to Brazil ;) At the same time, we will be able to sell oil to India for brks, and buy microelectronics in China with them, say. Convenient. The only downside is that it will only be possible to buy those goods that are produced in these countries without the direct use of the dollar. For "parallel import" from unfriendly countries, "briks" most likely will not work (or will work to a limited extent), so complete de-dollarization, apparently, will not happen yet. Even with a brik
      1. 0
        1 October 2024 21: 05
        White beard. What strange conclusions??? The more countries sell their goods for bricks, the sooner we will be free of the dollar.

        Why did you come up with country restrictions for brick????
      2. -2
        1 October 2024 21: 45
        It's like a transferable ruble. But it's not a currency.
  4. 0
    28 September 2024 13: 28
    Firstly, we need to come up with the right name for the currency, online referendums of all BRICS countries, secondly, we need to determine its value in gold or oil or semiconductors or water or something else, thirdly, there must be a digital equivalent, which is also backed by something significant, well, gallium, or silicon, and after that there will be a nuclear war, and the US will simply disappear in a civil war. And this currency will then become global, but everything must be spelled out to the comma,
    1. 0
      28 September 2024 14: 01
      Well, in the event of a nuclear war, the last thing we need to think about is currencies. lol
      1. +1
        28 September 2024 14: 30
        Currencies will exist both during and after the war:

        X 7,62 39
        0.5 x 40%
        16-18 x XX
        1. -1
          28 September 2024 15: 45
          And a crust of bread. And even 7,62 won't help fight off the Chinese when the European part of Russia becomes uninhabitable and the population decreases by 4/5. But that's not what we're talking about here.
    2. +1
      28 September 2024 23: 57
      Quote: Dmitry Volkov
      First, we need to come up with the right name for the currency, online referendums of all BRICS countries,

      It's all happened before!

      Transferable ruble — an international unit of account that was introduced on October 22, 1963, by the governments of the member countries of the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance (CMEA).

      The transferable ruble was used for settlements on export-import, trade, credit and other transactions between participating countries.

      This currency had no real form and existed in the form of entries in the accounts of the International Bank for Economic Cooperation and the International Investment Bank.

      Settlements using the transferable ruble were made from January 1, 1964 to 1990 inclusive. The reason for the termination of the use of the transferable ruble was the political crisis.

      Call it a transferable yuan, nothing will change.
      BRICS is a swan, a crayfish and a pike!
    3. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 13
      It will most likely initially be completely digital for non-cash transactions and a digital intermediary for the private exchange of one national currency for another, bypassing the dollar, for tourism, for example.
      As for the name - it should obviously be "brick", with an NFT link to the traditional shape of bricks or similar building blocks of each country))
      But the equivalent could be the sum of trade turnovers between the BRICS countries - initially in dollars, and then recalculated in BRICS at certain intervals. Then China will initially exchange yuan for BRICS as 1:1 (since it has the largest trade turnover within BRICS at the moment and that, in fact, will satisfy its condition about the yuan as a single BRICS currency)
  5. +7
    28 September 2024 13: 40
    The fact that huge volumes of Russian export revenues were stuck in Bharat in 2023 was confirmed in Moscow at the highest level. However, as VTB CEO Kostin stated, this problem has already “resolved.”

    Well, well, it's gone away (facepalm). Russia had to invest more than 40 billion dollars that India owes Russia for oil in India's infrastructure, because the Indians categorically refused to pay in dollars, and their rupees are of no use to anyone, and according to their legislation, they cannot be used to pay for international contracts. In any case, this money is lost for our country, as well as those same 300 billion. Glory to our efficient managers! Hooray ...
    PS. But they didn't stop supplying oil to the Indians - the mice cried, pricked themselves, but continued to eat the cactus.
    1. 0
      28 September 2024 23: 33
      Somehow they withdrew part of it through crypto.
    2. -1
      29 September 2024 17: 22
      Well, it's not a fact that 300 billion were lost. The Russian Federation received significant dividends from their "loss", but the West lost more by pocketing these billions.
      1. 0
        30 September 2024 21: 40
        The Russian Federation received significant dividends from their "loss"

        I wonder what "dividends" are? The ones that the EU is now using to finance the purchase of weapons for the hohols? (facepalm)
        1. 0
          30 September 2024 22: 05
          Well, let's start with the fact that before the SVO, some of the enterprises in strategically important industries were in the hands of foreigners. Leaving them with them would be a recipe for trouble. It was not hard to foresee that with the start of the SVO, they would leave the country, disrupting the supply chains. Taking the first step themselves would mean giving the West a reason to shout to the whole world that the Russian Federation is violating the sacred rules of trade and has set its sights on the sacred right of private property. And so... leaving 350 billion as bait on the hook and guessing that the West would not hesitate to swallow it (it had frozen assets before, remember Iran), the Russian Federation became a beneficiary. The West bears (and still bears) reputational costs, and the same Russia directly accuses it of theft. And judging by the number of people wishing to join BRICS, many agree with this. The Russian Federation, now, as a countermeasure, puts its own state manager in charge of the necessary enterprises and takes them under control, while also pretending to be offended. Plus, a blow is dealt to the dollar and trust in it as a means of the world reserve payment system. As a countermeasure, the Russian Federation stops paying deductions of compensation to patent owners (that is, the Russian Federation is one foot out of the Western patent system, which regularly brings billions of dollars to the West), and in response, according to Siluyanov and Volodin, it froze another 500 billion in Western assets. And what is left for the West? Utter nonsense. Not these 350 billion at all, but only the interest income, and they are given to Ukraine. If this did not happen on its own, but was thought out ... well, then I simply take my hat off.
          1. 0
            30 September 2024 22: 35
            Totally unconvincing. The bait of 300 billion - where is there to laugh? Forgive me, but such an interpretation of a complete misunderstanding of international events is for the weak-minded. The explanation is simple - until the very end they hoped that this money would not be stolen and there would not be another "knife in the back". Well, of course, "we are partners, the right of ownership is inviolable, they will not dare" etc. etc. And at the same time completely forgetting that the Anglo-Saxon world has always spat on international treaties and laws when it is advantageous for them.
            But here is another question (just don't talk about "bait" anymore, it's really funny) - why wasn't this money withdrawn, seeing that the situation is heating up and heading towards a direct clash? By the way, it almost happened in the spring of 2021. Who is to blame for this and who was responsible for this grandiose financial and political pro...uh, I wanted to say, embarrassment? Nobody.
            And the West doesn't give a damn about "reputational losses" - he who pays the piper calls the tune. And they pay. Including interest from those same 300 billion. How much weapons and ammunition can be bought for those same interest of 5-10-15 billion dollars? And how many of our guys will die from this multi-move "bait" - have you ever thought about it? I have no words, only thoughts, and even those are obscene.
            And to finance hostile states, pouring your own funds into their economy, you have to be a mega-brain. Or not love, not respect your own country and people at all and not see yourself here. You know what such people are called among the people...
            1. 0
              30 September 2024 23: 51
              Well, okay.. let it happen by itself. All the same, the advantages for Russia from this event significantly outweigh the disadvantages. The money for the shells would have been found anyway (is it difficult to turn on the press and print another 10 billion?) Nationalization of industry, withdrawal from Western patent law, freezing of assets in the amount of 500 billion (which, I note, is more than 350), and a reason to accuse the West of theft. And the West does not care about reputational losses. And BRICS is a witness to this. Who and what countries joined it? Even those that are big players in the oil market. And this shrinks the dollar space, especially in terms of petrodollars. And therefore undermines its status as a world reserve currency. And this is precisely what the power of the West is based on. I seriously doubt that it does not care about this))
    3. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 14
      I don't know about investments (although, perhaps, some of it was invested in Indian government bonds), but it is known for sure that they bought cotton for 5 billion, which is a very popular commodity for our country ;)
  6. +7
    28 September 2024 14: 59
    If Russia wanted to have its own strong ruble, it could have tied it to the same barrel of oil. Like, one barrel is ten thousand rubles, and it would have accepted only rubles as payment for its oil.
    But in fact, it turns out that until recently Russia sold its goods for any currency, but not for rubles. And if the issuing country itself does not need its own currency, then who else in the world might need it.
    Until recently, the Russian ruble was needed only for payments to public sector employees, basically, to make it easy to manipulate internal expenses, like, too much is spent on public sector employees - let's devalue the ruble by as much as we want. At the same time, income was received in hard currency.
    The people in power are all billionaires, there probably aren’t even any millionaires.
    1. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 18
      It is quite strange to receive payment for an exported product entirely in rubles, when the country needs currency (one or another) to buy something that is not produced domestically - this is logical without any malicious intent. It is just that the more different and high-tech things are produced in the country, the less such foreign currencies are needed. But for now - they are very much needed, in this sense it does not even matter whether it is a dollar or a conditional brick
  7. +2
    28 September 2024 15: 53
    The supranational unit of account is gold. Since there is a war going on now, Russia was attacked by a bloc of NATO countries, we should trade with everyone only if they will pay for our resources in gold or barter. You need gas, oil, fertilizers, wheat, fish, timber, etc., please pay in gold or barter. Why give away your resources for free for glass beads or for promises of support that are cheaper than the paper they are written on.
    1. +1
      28 September 2024 21: 55
      nonsense. try to buy gold with your salary (it's quite possible). and then try to start paying with this gold - for food at Pyaterochka, for entrance to the metro, for utilities. now that's fantastic:)
      1. -1
        28 September 2024 22: 29
        I'll translate what we're talking about. The supranational unit of account is gold. It's the currency of trade between states. Within Russia - the Ruble. What metro station do you live near?
        1. +2
          29 September 2024 00: 30
          I understood perfectly "what you are talking about". But you stubbornly do not want to think about it. I gave you the simplest example of how inconvenient it is to use gold even on the territory of our country, where we have much more opportunities to "push through" this decision than in settlements with legal entities of other countries. Why do you think that forcing a conditional oil refinery in China to pay us in gold will be easier than forcing a Chinese clothing merchant to accept gold on the Russian clothing market?
        2. +1
          29 September 2024 00: 52
          I'll try with numbers. I googled it and found some news: in August 2024, compared to July, China increased its oil imports from Russia in physical terms by 25,6%, to 9,37 million tons, and in monetary terms by 20,6%, to $5,38 billion. So, $5 a month. An ounce (about 380 grams) of gold now costs about $000 thousand. That is, in order to pay for our monthly oil exports, "China" (and in reality, various Chinese legal entities) must give us (apparently physically transport us across the border?) 30 million ounces of gold, that is, 2,5 tons. I also googled it and found that China's (the state's) gold reserves are estimated at 2,15 tons. That is, in 64 month chinese oil refineries should buy up 2200% of the country's gold reserves and ship them to us. easy? i don't think so
          1. 0
            29 September 2024 01: 15
            You will agree that the Russian Federation also buys a lot of things from China, and this is already barter, only the equivalent is not a dollar, but an ounce of gold. There will not be many problems with China, since there is an exchange of goods. For example, if there was trade with India through gold, then $30 billion would not lie dead. If you are an economist, then tell me how to trade when everyone wants to deceive you.
            1. +3
              29 September 2024 02: 32
              As an economist, I tell you responsibly
              1. "to deceive", but in fact to get a benefit (to sell more expensive, and to buy cheaper) although everything and always. it is in human nature - to want to live better. so throughout its history mankind has been trading in precisely such conditions.
              2. It was not for nothing that humanity abandoned barter in favor of money. It is a more advanced form of payment. I gave you examples, suggested that you think about it, realize it using simple examples from your life that are understandable to you. You stubbornly try to fantasize about some mega solution to incomprehensible "big" problems, ignoring the obvious difficulties using the example of your specific everyday problems. There is no "Russia" and "China" that export oil, import cars, etc. There are thousands of legal entities that employ millions of living people, and barter is not convenient for them. I suggested that you think about it using the example of gold - you don't want to, but you dream that if instead of one compact and valuable commodity (gold) you start using an unimaginable number of other goods (barter), then the situation will somehow become simpler. Well, try to imagine that your salary was paid in equal shares in gold, rice, and T-shirts, the price of which was determined "through the equivalent of an ounce of gold" (in the best case, this is the same price of gold in dollars). For fun, imagine that there are two different types of T-shirts and two different types of rice. You can then imagine yourself in the place of a hypothetical country R, ​​to which country K gave all of this in exchange for barter. And you need to get your car fixed this month. Don't want to? Well, try to imagine that you are Rosneft, you sent 1 million tons of oil, received 1 million tons of rice + 10 Abibas T-shirts and a lawn mower. And you are Lukoil, you also sent 1 million tons of oil, received 0,5 million jeans and 0,5 million sneakers. Then you make plans for the next month. As Rosneft, you want to increase oil sales by 10%. Do you want to give more rice or T-shirts in return? They offer T-shirts, but you haven't sold the last 10 yet - half of them are defective. They should be returned to the manufacturer, of course, but what can you demand from them - oil back?
              1. -1
                29 September 2024 08: 22
                Brilliant! Clear and humorous. I applaud!
              2. 0
                29 September 2024 13: 05
                You write beautifully, clearly, the language is easy, there are many arguments, but do not write how the Russian Federation should be in general. The BRICS currency is from the realm of fantasy, because BRICS is an international club of interests, and what currency can there be in a club? The dollar and the euro are dangerous, NATO prohibits everyone from trading with the Russian Federation in their currency. Yuan, but China is following the path of the United States, they depended on the dollar, I would not like to change the dependence to the yuan. To trade with each country in its currency, but there is an example of India. Previously (2000) it was convenient for everyone, there was an international currency dollar, now Russia has been crushed by sanctions. Huge European and North American markets have been closed to us for 20 years. In fact, the situation with the SVO in Ukraine has led Russia to a new economic, political and military reality, now the question has arisen that we need to learn to survive and develop our country. Having our own industry and being self-sufficient, like the USSR and modern China, this may happen in 25 years, when Russia will have a different system and government. As I see it, in the coming years the economy of the Russian Federation can be raised by expanding the internal economic space, i.e. by expanding the territory of Ukraine, its economy and population. A quick end to the war, all of Ukraine is Russia, the borders of the Russian Federation, as in 1975, this is the best way out, but here everything again rests on our system and government. A dead end. How can the Russian Federation trade on foreign markets, an open question???
                1. +1
                  29 September 2024 14: 02
                  I don't have any pleasant answers to your questions. The problem with currency and payments is only one of the problems. I haven't studied the USSR issue in depth (it's enough for me that it collapsed - which means it's a bad example), but I have serious doubts that even the USSR was "self-sufficient" at some point. This clearly wasn't the case before the war, when we were industrializing with foreign aid, nor during the war when we received lend-lease, and certainly not in the late 80s when the collapse was obvious. I can't say what it was like in the 50s-70s, but I doubt it. In any case, the Russian Federation isn't even the USSR. The shrinking population is only 140 million (this is both a narrow demand market and a relatively small labor market), there are huge gaps in industry that require not just workers, but qualified specialists to fill. we will neither be physically able to produce everything we need (there aren’t enough hands), nor will we be able to economically ensure that what we produce ourselves is economically profitable (a conventional Boeing produces hundreds of airplanes a year, and even if we could, we wouldn’t even need that many, and hence, a unit of a complex product from us would be significantly more expensive than the same unit of a complex product from them, because they spread their costs over a larger number of units that are sold to all 7 billion people on earth).
                  1. -1
                    29 September 2024 16: 29
                    The EU followed the path of the USSR, the USSR had federalism, the EU built a confederation. If we evaluate the USSR, then for me life in the USSR was better than in the Russian Federation. The collapse of the USSR is not connected with its economy. There was a coup d'etat in the USSR, its dismemberment into small entities with the direct participation of NATO. Do not rush to draw conclusions, the government will change and a lot will come to light, how, who and how much money the USA + spent on the destruction of the USSR. To orient oneself, to take an example from the development of the metropolitan country, this is obviously wrong. It is bad when specialists do not know what to do.
              3. 0
                29 September 2024 18: 43
                Well, I can answer you with your words. There was trade between countries before Bretton Woods and the problem of mutual settlements was somehow solved. They will solve it now.
                1. 0
                  2 October 2024 09: 15
                  I didn't say that the problem is unsolvable. I was talking about the inefficiency of the solution under discussion. Understand the difference. They rode in carts and plowed with a plough. The question is in the ratio of costs and results for you and your competitors.
        3. 0
          1 October 2024 21: 03
          Vlad, stop talking nonsense! Gold won't provide trade turnover even between China and Russia. Not to mention the whole world. That's why it was cancelled. What kind of kindergarten is this?
          1. 0
            1 October 2024 23: 16
            You don't like precious metals. The dollar and the euro are dangerous, you can't buy anything with them, the US and the EU will try to take them away from you. Switch from the dollar to the yuan, you'll become dependent again. India has $30 billion stuck in rupees, but nobody needs rupees. A good example is exchanging oil for shredded paper. That's kindergarten for you. You'd better suggest how to trade, and there's no need for much intelligence to criticize. The tsar had a gold ruble, it's still valuable.
            You economists know better which currency is better.
            1. +1
              2 October 2024 19: 31
              Vlad. You are going against reality. The volume of international trade is 25 trillion dollars. There is not so much gold in the world!

              But we need to create a single world currency. Yes, it's difficult. Yes, China is nuts and doesn't want it. But we should have started 25 years ago, and not kissed Schroeder and Merkel on the gums.
              1. 0
                2 October 2024 20: 10
                Everyone knows the word "need". But how to do it? I don't know how to make a single world currency and, as a techie, suggested gold. I know for sure that for a state, its own developed industry, its own bread, water, land are worth more than gold. Self-sufficiency, whether you want it or not, but everyone strives for this, no one wants to be someone's colony, to depend on the whim of the owner. The Soviet Union was an independent state, it is clear that it bought something, Now China has come to economic independence. Russian economists talk about a world currency, and I have a question for them. How much does the Russian state, not the oligarchs, need this world currency? What will happen to the Russian Federation if it stops selling gas, oil, ..... resources abroad???
    2. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 22
      Gold is a good resource (like other precious metals), but not everyone produces it or has it in sufficient quantities to pay for goods. There are other valuable resources. But if you pay with it directly, it turns out to be barter, which is inconvenient, and at the same time it still needs to have a clearly expressed value equivalent. Now gold has it in dollars. Within BRICS, it could be a "brick". But the value of gold in it also needs to be calculated somehow
  8. 0
    28 September 2024 18: 05
    And what is on everyone's lips? "Give us this day our daily bread." This brings us back to the history of the origin of money, but "daily bread" is from 100 thousand to 10 million items from the annual GDP or GDP per person per day. The Ministry of Finance's nonsense did not really find any contradictions in 2016. The conclusion is that our president is arrogant, but in the dollar issue, let's remember 2013, he is like diapers, the influence of fellow intelligence officers from the CIA and other promises. Isn't that so? The proof is in Nabiullina, who was appointed head of the Central Bank!
  9. ksa
    +1
    28 September 2024 22: 32
    The article is vague. I read the comments... But I have a different opinion about the content of the article. Due to the fact that it is not possible to agree on a single supranational currency (this point is described in detail), it was decided that the central banks of all countries will issue their own currency (digital financial asset), which will be tied to the rate of the currency used in the state, but will be used only for interstate settlements. Well, approximately like the "transferable ruble" was used in the CMEA countries. It was used only for settlements between the CMEA countries. True, it was a single transferable currency of the CMEA. And in BRICS, as I understand it, both the "transferable ruble" and the "transferable yuan" and the "transferable rupee" will be used, etc.
    Hmm... The comment also turned out to be unclear.
    1. 0
      29 September 2024 06: 55
      Hmm... The comment also turned out to be unclear.

      Well, the topic is murky! And it is not a fact that there will not be adjustments during the process of putting the system into operation. But, in my opinion, you have most fully felt the issue.
    2. -1
      29 September 2024 08: 24
      And the rate of the currency used in the state is tied to the dollar rate... And in China, not by market means... Like gold.
    3. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 27
      No, actually everything is clear)) It's just that "transferable yuan" into, say, "transferable ruble" should be converted at some rate ;) And how to determine it - that's exactly the question. For example, I suggest calculating it as a proportion of the sum of mutual trade turnover of the BRICS countries. Then, for example, the conditional 1 Brick will be equal to 1 yuan, rubles and rupees, as far as I remember from the estimates, will be either 2 or 3 for 1 Brick, Brazil will give 1 reals for 6 Brick, and South Africa will have to pay 10
  10. +2
    29 September 2024 09: 14
    Allowing Siluanov and Nabiullina to participate in resolving the issue of settlements within BRICS is a guaranteed result for the failure of the search for a solution. No competent leader of any BRICS country will allow "specialists" who contributed to the theft of part of Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves, directly and indirectly, to their currency.
  11. 0
    29 September 2024 09: 52
    Baku, of course, does not carry any semantic load, because a buck is a buck even in Africa
  12. +1
    29 September 2024 10: 48
    In general, as always. What's there to argue about?
    "single currency" BRICS - kaput. No stranger to it. For example, Naftogaz got the same thing for rubles.

    "unit of account"? maybe, maybe not. good wishes... it's almost the same as a supercurrency, just a different name
    1. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 49
      Rather, it is a measure of conversion of one national currency into another ;) But how exactly to set this rate is a question. For example, I propose to appoint it depending on either the total trade turnover or the size of the trade balance between the BRICS countries. Initially, it will be calculated at dollar prices, and then, during periodic recalculations (balances also change) in the "BRICS" themselves. This will be a good reflection of the mutual role of states within the BRICS, respectively, the more significant the participant, the more trade it has with other BRICS members, and the stronger its domestic currency will be to the "BRICS" - say, the yuan will be 1:1 to the BRICS
      1. 0
        1 October 2024 23: 23
        The offer is certainly good.
        But then the poor will be fleeced.
        If Honduras can't trade much, it means it will give everything to China on the cheap...
  13. 0
    1 October 2024 18: 52
    Marzhetsky, you are one of those authors who writes strange things.

    What? None. China and India don't need this. They want their own currencies.
    1. 0
      1 October 2024 20: 55
      So national currencies will be preserved - this conditional "common currency" will only be a settlement rate for converting one national currency into another, and a universal one at that. Only a reasonable and fairly fair conversion rate needs to be developed. And this can be done, say, on the proportion of the amount of trade turnover of each country with all other BRICS countries. Then, let's say, for the yuan this rate will be 1:1, for the ruble and rupee, if I remember my calculations correctly, between 2 and 3 rubles and rupees per unit of the single currency, Brazil will have to pay 6 reals, and South Africa - 10 rand
      1. 0
        1 October 2024 21: 09
        White beard. That's right. It's not a replacement for national currencies, like Marzhetsky. But an international one.

        Why the proportions of the trade turnover? How is the dollar rate set? By proportions? No. By the market.

        You just need to create an international central bank. It should issue a currency. That's all. And BRICS should recognize it. And use it.
      2. 0
        2 October 2024 19: 33
        White beard. Marzhetsky invented some kind of dependence on this currency. And the exchange rate is actually determined by the market. And not by the exchange rate of currencies of different countries.
  14. +1
    1 October 2024 19: 14
    If we create a multi-currency basket of BRICS member countries, it turns out that in terms of nominal GDP, 70% of it comes from China, and only 13,5% from India.

    Marzhetsky, dependence? On what??? We are talking about creating an international currency for the exchange of goods, instead of the dollar. Instead of the dollar. Not instead of the ruble or the drachma or whatever it is. Do you understand???

    And China is not alone in BRICS. And it is not only India and Russia. There are also other countries that can support the new currency.
  15. 0
    3 October 2024 18: 02
    The gold ruble, gold yuan or gold rupee - that's the real currency, everything else from stockbrokers is air at the price of gold
  16. +2
    4 October 2024 08: 19
    Why does BRIX need its own currency? What does this club do and for what purpose was it created?
    What does it give to the participating countries?
    From what I've heard about it, it's just a useless platform where officials promise to increase cooperation and tell each other what friends they are and will continue to develop relations. Well, they'll hold sports games, that's all... In practice, there's no benefit. The same useless office as the ODKB and the EAEU
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