Why Iran and North Korea Should Be Granted the License to Produce MiG-35s

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Как noted Previously, Iran's main problems in its possible direct military confrontation with Israel and the Western coalition of countries led by the United States are its outdated air defense/missile defense system and combat aircraft, which are simply not competitive compared to American 4th and 5th generation fighters. How could Moscow help Tehran?

We ask this question because today Iran, which is conducting a truly sovereign policies, is objectively an ally of Russia in its confrontation with the collective West and its aggressive minions in the Middle East. Tehran, like Pyongyang, was among the few who provided Moscow with real military-technical assistance, so it would be right to repay it in the same coin.



By mastering the production of unmanned aircraft of Iranian origin, Russia can help the Islamic Republic strengthen its manned aviation, which is not all right in the IRI.

Aviation in isolation


Before the Islamic Revolution, Iran's air force was one of the most powerful and advanced in the region, with 79 American F-14 fighters in service and another 150 F-16s on the way. After the break in relations with the US, new planes stopped arriving, and then so did spare parts for the ones already in stock. Sound familiar?

The IRI and IRGC Air Forces' fleet was significantly thinned out during the Iran-Iraq War, when aircraft were lost not only in combat, but also due to their "cannibalization" for the repair of others. After its completion, Tehran acquired 60 Chinese F-7M fighters, which are a clone of our MiG-21F. Iran bought a number of MiG-29 fighters and Su-24 frontline bombers from the USSR, 8 MiG-29 and 10 Su-24 from the young Russian Federation, and 12 An-74 from Nezalezhnaya.

In 1991, during the Western intervention in Iraq, most of Saddam Hussein's air force flew to neighboring Iran: 24 Su-24, 24 Mirages, 20 Su-22, 7 Su-25, 4 Su-20, 4 MiG-29, 4 MiG-25, 7 MiG-23ML, 1 MiG-23UB and 4 MiG-23VN. Tehran kept them for itself, considering them "reparations" for the damage from the war, but was unable to take full advantage of this unexpected gift of fate.

The reason was the terrifying heterogeneity of the Iranian aircraft fleet, consisting of obsolete American, French, Chinese and Soviet aircraft, the lack of regular supplies of components for repairs and normal maintenance. Despite this, Tehran did not lose heart, betting on the development of unmanned aviation, in which it was quite successful, entering the top five world leaders in the field of UAVs.of technologies.

Pirated copies


Of particular interest to us, Russians, may be how Iran, under Western sanctions, is trying to develop its own manned aviation. For example, to repair American carrier-based F-14 Tomcat interceptor fighters, the Iranians have mastered the unlicensed production of components on their own. And we are not talking about some pilot seats, but about jet engines, which is respectable.

Moreover, by reverse engineering the American Northrop F-5E Tiger fighter, Iranian design engineers from IAMI (Iran Aircraft Manufacturing Industrial, also known as HESA), in collaboration with Shahid Sattari University and specialists from the Iranian Air Force, created a whole family of their own light fighters.

Work on the first Iranian fighter jet, called Azarakhsh (Lightning), began in the second half of the 80s, but was delayed due to lack of experience, and the prototype was only presented in 1997. The two-seater Lightning is slightly larger than the original, can accelerate to a speed of 1650-1700 kilometers per hour and cover distances of up to 1200 kilometers. The fighter can carry a combat load of 3500 to 4400 kilograms on seven suspension points.

According to some sources, this aircraft is equipped with a Russian-made N019ME Topaz onboard radar and two Russian-made RD-33 turbojet engines with a maximum thrust of 8300 kgf. It is possible that the small series of Iranian Azarakhsh fighters and their subsequent upgrades is due to the dependence on imported components.

The next generation of the aircraft was named Saeqeh (Sakih - "Lightning Strike"). Its weight was slightly reduced, which allowed increasing the maximum speed to 2050-2080 km/h, and the range - to 1400 km. The power plant, avionics and weapons did not undergo any fundamental changes. In total, it was planned to assemble up to 24 fighters of this type.

The most modern fighter jet of national production in Iran is considered to be the Kowsar, presented in 2018 and named after the heavenly river Kausar mentioned in the Koran. Its exact tactical and technical characteristics are not disclosed, but objectively the aircraft is a further modernization of the Molniya and Udar Lightning. It received a ballistic computer and a multi-purpose radar, a digital cockpit with LCD displays, as well as new ejection seats created on the basis of the Russian K-36.

The actual combat capabilities of these obsolete aircraft in the event of a collision with American or Israeli aircraft are assessed as extremely low. However, Tehran's very desire to gradually develop its national aircraft industry is commendable. Until recently, Russia's ability to begin supplying Iran with modern weapons was limited by the international sanctions regime, but now they have expired.

"Wink" to allies


Even before the start of the SVO, we voiced the proposal to negotiate a mutually beneficial exchange with Tehran: in exchange for the 4++ generation Su-35 fighters, to receive Iranian drone production technologies, did not arouse enthusiasm among the jingoistic public. As is known, in the end, everything came to the purchase of Iranian reconnaissance and attack drones. Perhaps, if this decision had been made in advance, many things during the special operation could have gone differently.

I would like to say a few words about the choice in favor of the Su-35. Indeed, this is a modern fighter, super-maneuverable and multi-purpose, which can fight on equal terms with American and Israeli aircraft. The only question is their quantity, which Russia will actually be able to supply to Iran. Two dozen Su-35 will not allow winning an air war against an entire international coalition, and the Russian Aerospace Forces themselves need aircraft of this type in commercial quantities against the backdrop of the prospect of a direct clash with the NATO bloc. The main workhorse of Russian combat aviation is the product of the Sukhoi Design Bureau.

Perhaps it would be more rational to offer Iran, and with it its allies from the DPRK, to establish licensed production of the light fighter of the 4++ generation MiG-35? It is equipped with a modern radar with AFAR, avionics and avionics, which will allow it to be competitive with aircraft of a potential enemy of the corresponding class. The Iranians, conducting experiments with ersatz aircraft carriers, may also be interested in the MiG-35 as a carrier-based aircraft, since it is based on the carrier-based MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB.

At present, a strange situation has developed in which our country has everything necessary for the production of MiGs: factories, engines, components and tooling, but the MiG-35 aircraft themselves are out of business due to the de facto monopoly of Sukhoi. So why not set up their assembly in Iran and the DPRK, while simultaneously loading our own capacities with orders?

For our allies, the transition to the MiG-35 will be a huge step forward in increasing the combat capability of their Air Forces, and at the same time will not allow the MiG to finally die. This would be a very reasonable and mutually beneficial decision.
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  1. 0
    21 September 2024 11: 46
    The article is another unrealizable fantasy.
    And here is the reality:
    https://www.uecrus.com/products-and-services/products/
    1. -5
      21 September 2024 11: 53
      Why not, we need to quickly transfer all MiG-29s to Iran and S. Korea, and we need to set up production of MiG-35Ms there, and things will go well, and we need to transfer Tu-22M3Ms to China, maybe they will come to their senses and stop working for the Pin.dos. drinks
      1. +5
        21 September 2024 12: 02
        Quote: Dmitry Volkov
        Why not, we need to quickly transfer all MiG-29s to Iran and S. Korea,

        Why do they need junk? They have their own, the same if not better in terms of avionics.

        Quote: Dmitry Volkov
        and we need to set up their production of MiG-35M, and things will go well,

        These mantras about the MiG-35 have been going on for years... like in that proverb about halva: no matter how much you say it, it doesn't get any sweeter in your mouth. It won't be there. Yes, it's quite possible that military products are not listed openly on the UEC website, but at the same time, there are no other sources about the RD-33MK being produced, except for simple links to the manufacturer JSC "V.V. Chernyshev MMP", where it is listed in the product list. And it is unclear how MiG can ensure that the contract is executed on time if it is concluded. By the way, it has seriously damaged its reputation on this.

        Quote: Dmitry Volkov
        China needs to be given the Tu-22M3M, maybe they'll come to their senses and stop working for pin.dos.ov

        Seriously? They'll just go and exchange their main trading partner, compared to which the Russian Federation is a drop in the bucket, for a used plane from half a century ago? So far, they've successfully cut off payments from the Russian Federation for their own Yuan. Wake up, China is no longer a friend, but a contender for world domination just like the US, which will trample a competitor if it benefits it and nothing will happen for it.
      2. +1
        21 September 2024 12: 14
        Today, our weapons are being used to kill Russian citizens in the SVO in Ukraine. No one has any indication that this could happen again. There is a war going on, Russia is burning, and the profiteers are thinking about profit. There is a shortage of everything in the Russian Federation: planes, pilots, missiles, and UAVs.
      3. +2
        21 September 2024 13: 05
        Iran does not need the MiG-35 because it has outdated avionics and weapons. Iran can buy the more advanced Chinese JF-17 (FC-1), but does not want to because both are inferior to American aircraft.
        The DPRK has about 30 MiG-29s and about 10 years ago the FSB stopped an attempt to buy a fuel pump for the MiG-29 for a price 10-20 times higher than the factory price. It was stolen from a warehouse and, in addition, the sale was prohibited by UN Security Council sanctions. Maybe they would have bought it for spare parts and to replenish the fighter fleet. They would not have refused (?) the joint production of the MiG-35. They would have used it to protect airspace and as a carrier of cruise missiles (6,5-7 tons payload). Now it seems that the MiG-23 is used as a carrier of anti-ship missiles.
        Now the DPRK is developing dynamically and can invest in the development of aircraft. Before Covid, the Koreans offered to pay half the costs of launching the Tu-214 into production, but Manturov did not need the Tu-214. As is known, the Tu-214 has now been launched into production and certain hopes are pinned on it.
        I don't know if China needs the Tu-22M3M, but they are connected with the US not only by the trade exchange that everyone insists on. China is afraid of losing access to Western technologies because in this case they are afraid of becoming a laggard instead of a catch-up and overtaking one. In addition, the Chinese have quite close ties with the US. So the US wanted to cut off China's access to AI technologies, but it turned out that although China is second only to the US in terms of the number of TOP developers in the field of AI, 70% of them are Chinese. China has overtaken South Korea in the number of students studying in the US and took 1st place. If you recall history, the US helped China in the war against Japan and even sent volunteer pilots to help.
        1. +4
          21 September 2024 13: 30
          Iran does not need the MiG-35 because it has outdated avionics and weapons. Iran can buy the more advanced Chinese JF-17 (FC-1), but does not want to because both are inferior to American aircraft.

          And so he will proudly fly planes from the 70s of the last century? Don't you find it funny?

          The DPRK has about 30 MiG-29s and about 10 years ago the FSB stopped an attempt to buy a fuel pump for the MiG-29 for a price 10-20 times higher than the factory price. It was stolen from a warehouse and, in addition, the sale was prohibited by UN Security Council sanctions. Maybe they would have bought it for spare parts and to replenish the fighter fleet. They would not have refused (?) the joint production of the MiG-35. They would have used it to protect airspace and as a carrier of cruise missiles (6,5-7 tons payload). Now it seems that the MiG-23 is used as a carrier of anti-ship missiles.

          Okay, so. The DPRK wouldn't mind a MiG-35, but Iran, which is two minutes away from a war with high-tech opponents, doesn't need cruise missile carriers and air defense systems? Where's the logic?
          1. +2
            21 September 2024 14: 34
            Okay, so. The DPRK wouldn't mind a MiG-35, but Iran, which is two minutes away from a war with high-tech opponents, doesn't need cruise missile carriers and air defense systems? Where's the logic?

            I will repeat and decipher what was written earlier.
            The DPRK MiG-35 would be useful as a strike aircraft - a carrier of cruise missiles and an interceptor of cruise missiles. It cannot gain air superiority due to the qualitative and quantitative superiority of the enemy.
            Iran is also unable to gain air superiority with either the MiG-35 or the Su-35; it can use 2 dozen Su-35s as strike aircraft against the AUG or to strike Israel.
            And, excuse me, I don't understand why Iran has a high-tech enemy, but the DPRK doesn't? Israel and South Korea are armed with the same American F-16, F-15, F-35.
          2. 0
            22 September 2024 11: 12
            Quote: Beydodyr
            And so he will proudly fly planes from the 70s of the last century? Don't you find it funny?

            No, it's not funny, because no matter how you stretch the owl, he won't get the MiG-35, even throwing all his efforts into production, the first units will be formed in 3-4 years. And he needs it now. For now it's either to Sukhoi or to the Chinese.

            Quote: Beydodyr
            cruise missile carriers and air defense systems are not needed? Where is the logic?

            Winged on the MiG-35? There is only one sane one - the Kh-59MK2, which is updated, and even then it is a big question whether they will give it. And what air defense systems does the MiG carry?))) 300? 400? Or maybe a couple of Pantsirs?))
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      4. +7
        21 September 2024 15: 08
        I agree with Iran and S. Korea! But handing over the Tu-22M3M to China is treason! China has NEVER been our friend, is not today and will NEVER be in the future! Since China is our neighbor, we must live well with them. Whose drones are the Banderovites using to kill our soldiers? Guess in one try? And when it comes to fighting Russia, they go out of their way, they went out of their way on Damansky, they went out of their way in Afghanistan, they drowned the spirits with money, weapons, and instructors! But they won’t even lift a little finger to help Russia! This is an axiom, and anyone who doesn’t understand this is mentally retarded.
      5. 0
        25 September 2024 14: 23
        Iran??? He started a policy of reconciliation with the Americans.
        1. 0
          5 October 2024 18: 47
          Iran??? He started a policy of reconciliation with the Americans.

          I thought so myself, but it seems that everything is not so simple. Maxim Shevchenko, a very knowledgeable expert on the Middle East, believes that this is a new strategic policy of Iran. The new president does not want the West to accuse Iran of aggression and create an anti-Iranian coalition as in the case of Iraq. If you are interested in this topic, it is better to watch the latest videos of M. Shevchenko on his channel.
    2. 0
      21 September 2024 23: 19
      Dear Editor!
      Maybe better - about the reactor?
      There, about your favorite moon tractor?
      After all, it’s impossible! - year in a row
      That scare plates -
      Say, vile, fly,
      Then your dogs bark
      That ruins say!
  2. +4
    21 September 2024 11: 53
    Iran needed planes yesterday. And how long will it take to organize licensed assembly until at least 50 planes are produced? Fifteen years?
    1. +1
      21 September 2024 12: 54
      Iran needed planes yesterday. And how long will it take to organize licensed assembly until at least 50 planes are produced? Fifteen years?

      If Iran or the DPRK were given the right to localize 50% of the components, they would quickly assemble them themselves.
    2. -2
      21 September 2024 18: 45
      China has been asking for the Tu-22M for decades, and why is this a betrayal? They gave us the Tu-16, they didn’t bomb us, I think this is not a betrayal, but a necessary agreement, yes, China will reach a new level, engines, only ours, they themselves will copy for another twenty years, now the probability of a conflict with Tram is very high, and China needs a supersonic strike bomber hi
  3. +3
    21 September 2024 12: 09
    How sweet it is to decide for someone (of course, for the benefit of the unreasonable)... But maybe we should first ask Iran and the DPRK if they need this "happiness"?
    1. +2
      21 September 2024 12: 53
      Do they need this "happiness"?

      Do you really think that the MiG-35 is such a terrible horror that it is better for them to fly what they have now? Or is there a whole line of people wanting to share technology?
      1. 0
        21 September 2024 13: 03
        Quote: Beydodyr
        Do you really think that the MiG-35 is such a terrible horror?

        The MiG-35 is yesterday's plane, today's maximum, and you have to be a sad-minded person to invest in organizing its production (buying some quantity is another matter, but there is no such quantity, alas, alas... and it is not expected anytime soon, and not soon makes no sense)
        But the options with the Su-75 (in the manner of the F-35 program) could be discussed to mutual benefit.
        1. +2
          21 September 2024 13: 28
          The MiG-35 is yesterday's plane, today's maximum, and you have to be a sad-minded person to invest in organizing its production (buying some quantity is another matter, but there is no such quantity, alas, alas... and it is not expected anytime soon, and not soon makes no sense)

          What makes sense? Iran is squeezing the maximum out of a 70s aircraft. This is the maximum of its own competence. There are no willingness to transfer modern technology to Iran.
          So what exactly do you see as an alternative for the Iranians?
          1. 0
            21 September 2024 13: 32
            Well, everything is written, you just need to read to the end and not get distracted
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        2. +1
          21 September 2024 14: 09
          The whole world flies on planes from yesterday, today, and even the day before yesterday.
          1. 0
            21 September 2024 14: 14
            Quote: faiver
            actually

            Actually, don't you think that this is a bit off topic?
        3. 0
          2 October 2024 19: 26
          Mark, is it okay that the US produces its own F-15????
  4. 0
    21 September 2024 12: 41
    According to principle

    Here you are, God, what is not good for me

    with the allies they do not. It would be necessary to carry out deliveries of Su-35 to Iran and the DPRK on a priority basis, subject to their consent and real payment. And at the factories from under the MiGs to expand the production of Su-57 for the VKS.
    1. +1
      21 September 2024 14: 11
      Didn't your grandma tell you that you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket?
    2. +1
      21 September 2024 16: 08
      What are you writing? The Su-35 will start taking off in N. KOREA, and at an altitude of 3 km it has already ended and S. Korea has begun... :))
      They would like to have more light aircraft in the MiG-21 class, in a new modern design...
      1. +1
        22 September 2024 08: 28
        You probably confused North Korea with Armenia?... In terms of area, it's only 700 km to the coast of Japan in one direction! And you propose to chase deck aircraft from American AUGs in a gentlemanly manner, without hitting aircraft carriers? And let Japanese destroyers approach the coast to launch cruise missiles up to the radio horizon line of coastal radars?... For the Koreans, the Su-35 is the best option as an interceptor, reconnaissance and attack aircraft. Otherwise, they will have to operate three different aircraft in these competencies.
  5. 0
    21 September 2024 12: 50
    More fantasies. Arguments in the comments above.
    To set up production there, we need to give them factories and specialists, but we have almost none of them ourselves.
    Drawings? They won't make them themselves, but the Jews will steal them.
    1. +1
      21 September 2024 14: 13
      The Jews have already stolen it, so is it worth worrying about?
  6. 0
    21 September 2024 16: 06
    Why transfer the license for the MiG-35 to Iran and North Korea?
    Can't we ourselves produce and sell MiG-35s to these countries or exchange them for other types of weapons?
    The Nizhny Novgorod Sokol can produce a combat aviation regiment per year, plus the same aircraft plant in Lukhovitsy, in 6-7 years the complete rearmament of the Air Forces of S. Korea and Iran.
    In extreme cases, it is possible to supply machine kits there, and set up screwdriver assembly on site, let them imagine themselves as great aircraft manufacturing powers, as was previously the case with the Su-30MKI for India.
    1. +4
      21 September 2024 23: 26
      can release and could release - two very big differences!
  7. -4
    21 September 2024 16: 37
    Israeli F35s will tear apart MiG35s like a dog would a hot water bottle from a distance of 150 km. The MiG won't even see it before the missile launch. Why does Iran need a modernized 45-year-old aircraft?
    1. +2
      22 September 2024 19: 36
      And if Iran wants to install an AESA radar on the MiG-35, then it won’t be so “blind and toothless”...
    2. +1
      2 October 2024 19: 24
      Gunship, the Israeli F-35s won't even have time to reach the MiGs. They'll either break down or be cleared out with AFARS and R-77s.
  8. +1
    21 September 2024 16: 38
    Quote: faiver
    The whole world flies on planes from yesterday, today, and even the day before yesterday.

    Those who fight against the rebels armed with AKMs may be
  9. +1
    21 September 2024 16: 41
    Quote: mark1
    Quote: Beydodyr
    Do you really think that the MiG-35 is such a terrible horror?

    The MiG-35 is yesterday's plane, today's maximum, and you have to be a sad-minded person to invest in organizing its production (buying some quantity is another matter, but there is no such quantity, alas, alas... and it is not expected anytime soon, and not soon makes no sense)
    But the options with the Su-75 (in the manner of the F-35 program) could be discussed to mutual benefit.

    What, the Su75 wasn't made of papier-mâché? Tell me.
  10. -3
    21 September 2024 16: 47
    Quote: Dmitry Volkov
    Why not, we need to quickly transfer all MiG-29s to Iran and S. Korea, and we need to set up production of MiG-35Ms there, and things will go well, and we need to transfer Tu-22M3Ms to China, maybe they will come to their senses and stop working for the Pin.dos. drinks

    There are practically no flying Mig-29s left in Russia. Due to their venerable age, they began to fall apart in the air and about 15 years ago they were quietly left standing in the corner of airfields. For the mid-70s, this was a good machine, but it is long outdated.
    Its updated contemporary F16, in addition to new weapons, today has a data exchange channel with ground and air complexes. Such technologies were not even dreamed of by the MiG developers in their most erotic dreams...
  11. -3
    21 September 2024 18: 20
    Of course, it's worth conveying. Russia itself can't even properly assemble without Western components - maybe the ayatollahs and Kims will do better.
    1. 0
      25 September 2024 08: 29
      Here you go, God, what is not good for us.
  12. -2
    21 September 2024 18: 27
    Tehran's desire to gradually develop national aircraft manufacturing is respectable

    Results, not aspirations, should command respect. And the results, as you can see, are nonexistent. No country, including the US, will be able to develop any modern industry without participation in broad international cooperation. Especially in isolation. But Iran and Russia will succeed, with the prayers of the priests.
  13. +3
    21 September 2024 18: 54
    Quote: baltika3
    No country, including the United States, can develop any modern industry without participation in broad international cooperation.

    The USSR succeeded.
  14. 0
    21 September 2024 19: 30
    It would be better to have Su-57 or Checkmate. And let's keep Su-35 for ourselves. Yes, we can also add Armata to the bargain.
    1. +4
      21 September 2024 23: 23
      Yes, yes, and add the AN-3 to the bargain, otherwise it’s not funny at all!
  15. +4
    22 September 2024 10: 44
    The Soviet Union armed Soviet Ukraine as it armed itself.
    What do we have today? A war between Russia and Ukraine.
    Today we transfer weapons to an ally, but what will happen tomorrow, the day after tomorrow?
    You never know what "Ivan Ivanovich and Ivan Nikiforovich" might quarrel about.
  16. +1
    22 September 2024 22: 05
    Iran won't have time to do anything, they'll soon have a revolution or something similar, the cunning ones of the whole world have already taken them on...
  17. +4
    23 September 2024 10: 28
    No, why sell licenses? We need to build planes in Russia and sell the finished product.
  18. -1
    25 September 2024 02: 28
    Quote: Pafnuty Pakhomovich
    It would be better to have Su-57 or Checkmate. And let's keep Su-35 for ourselves. Yes, we can also add Armata to the bargain.

    It needs to be like in North Korea. Put a papier-mâché Checkmate on a trailer and roll it around the square. And thunderous applause from the faithful disciples of Marxism-Leninism. Those who clapped poorly are immediately thrown against the wall.
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  20. 0
    7 October 2024 10: 07
    And shouldn't we give them the keys to the apartment where the money is? We don't give them out 'on Fridays'!
    Although the transfer of such technologies and production is even worse than giving away money and an apartment!
    The Persians, look, recently declared that they condemn us on the outskirts! And the Chinese are even worse.