100 upgraded Tu-214s to be manufactured for Russian airline

20 September 2024 21

The United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) and Siberia Airlines (S7) signed a memorandum of mutual cooperation. The basis of cooperation will be the issue of expanding the airline's fleet.

According to the memorandum, the Kazan Aircraft Manufacturing Plant will supply the airline with 100 upgraded Tu-214 passenger aircraft. The production of 2030 such models is planned for 115.

The medium-haul Tu-214 can accommodate up to 210 passengers. The maximum flight range is 6,5 thousand kilometers. From the very beginning of production in 1996, these aircraft were manufactured for control by crews of three people. However, now there is an obvious demand for models with only two crew members. Thus, Aeroflot stated that the company does not need other models.

Meanwhile, the Kazan Aviation Plant named after S. P. Gorbunov has prepared production for the installation of new equipment – a high-tech machine designed for processing long aircraft parts. The portal 5-axis milling machining center with a Russian-made vacuum table will make it possible to manufacture components from aluminum alloys with a maximum size of 24 meters. The equipment should be delivered to the plant in early 2025.

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AlOrg

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20 September 2024 16: 49

Everything is in the future again, nothing in the present. Write when they do it.
vlad127490

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20 September 2024 17: 43

Maybe it's enough to feed us with promises. Specifically, tell us that 2025 Tu-12 aircraft will be produced in 214. If the production plan is not met, Manturov, Savelyev, Mishustin will be sent to Kolyma for correctional labor; the people will understand and approve of this approach.
1. vik669
  
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  22 September 2024 13: 43
  
  That's true, but what did Kolyma do wrong and before whom that it is being turned into a garbage dump!
  1. vlad127490
    
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    22 September 2024 16: 32
    
    Then all that remains is to deport everyone to Israel.
faiver

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21 September 2024 08: 54

We'll see how many different memoranda there have already been...
1. vik669
  
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  22 September 2024 13: 39
  
  "how many different memoranda have there already been..." - well... it's not like lifting sacks!
Pembo

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22 September 2024 05: 16

What's going on! The reporter's commentators demand not promises, but actions!
prior

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22 September 2024 10: 50

The problem with the third crew member is a far-fetched one.
On the presidential plane, the service...
And nothing, it flies. No one counts the savings and won't even try.
And how many assistants does each of the deputies have with hefty salaries! Who cares?!
1. faiver
  
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  22 September 2024 13: 46
  
  How can you? They think only about the people day and night.....
2. VladimirNET
  
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  22 September 2024 16: 06
  
  Quote: prior
  The problem with the third crew member is a far-fetched one.
  
  The problem is the HIGH salary of the pilots, which will have to be paid, and also apparently the management is not designed for only two (a lot of extra equipment - which also weighs a lot).
  
  P.S. For the military, on the contrary, it's a plus, because the result in flight is important:
  and if the plane can be used for the military, then why not use it for civil aviation: there are only advantages everywhere.
  1. vlad127490
    
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    22 September 2024 23: 43
    
    It seems that the issue is deeper. These officials are doing everything to ensure that Russia does not have its own aviation industry. They believe that it is more profitable for them to buy planes in the West. The issue of kerosene and the third crew member is resolved at the government level simply and quickly. The state subsidizes the difference in kerosene consumption and pays the salary of the third crew member. Thus, the carrier receives compensation from the state for using the Tu-204/214. What is difficult about this? We can go further. Create a state-owned enterprise, an air carrier, and transfer all Russian-made aircraft to this enterprise. Private companies will have a state competitor.
    1. VladimirNET
      
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      23 September 2024 15: 58
      
      Quote: vlad127490
      We can go further. Create a state-owned enterprise, an air carrier
      
      Aeroflot's main shareholder is Rosimushchestvo (51,2%), another 4,5% is owned by the subsidiary Aeroflot-Finance, and 3,3% is owned by the state corporation Rostec.
      
      Thus, the owner of Aeroflot is the state.
      1. vlad127490
        
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        23 September 2024 16: 27
        
        You don't like a state-owned enterprise, an air carrier, where all Russian-made aircraft are in the hands of the state?
        A state-owned enterprise is a unitary state enterprise founded on the right of operational management of the property assigned to it.
        Such enterprises act on behalf of the state in the interests of ensuring the defense and security of the Russian Federation, the functioning of various types of transport, and the achievement of other strategic goals of the Russian Federation.
        Pouring government money into Aeroflot is tantamount to putting government money into the pockets of oligarchs.
        State-owned enterprises are not accessible to oligarchs.
        There will be a state air carrier that will compete in the air transportation market. The development and production of domestic aircraft will not depend on the wishes of oligarchs. We have only advantages for the state and citizens of the Russian Federation.
        
        VladimirNET
        
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        24 September 2024 18: 42
        
        Quote: vlad127490
        You don't like a state-owned enterprise, an air carrier, where all Russian-made aircraft are in the hands of the state?
        
        I like it, but there are no planes for ALL of them, especially since you are suggesting that the cost of the planes (in this government campaign) be covered by the state, that is, by you and me.
        
        My option is simpler and cheaper: if Aeroflot refuses to purchase the Tu-214:
        1. Change the management of Aeroflot, since the Russian Federation owns 51% of the shares.
        2. After the change - make a decision about the purchase, that's all. :)
        
        Quote: vlad127490
        Pouring government money into Aeroflot is tantamount to putting government money into the pockets of oligarchs.
        
        That's right. And let the oligarchs (including Aeroflot) pay for the Tu-214 planes themselves, not the state.
        
        vlad127490
        
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        25 September 2024 00: 10
        
        In the Russian Federation, all business is built - the state bears the costs, the oligarchs receive the income. The shareholders in Aeroflot are officials, oligarchs. You are proposing a difficult path, which is not feasible under the current government. It is easier to create a state enterprise "Aviation and Aeronautics" and concentrate everything that is produced in the Russian Federation in it. There will be no influence of business on it, less money will go, since it is a state enterprise, there will be direct management and financing. There will be a link between production and operation. This enterprise will also have transport aircraft. Now there is a war, the state enterprise will fulfill military orders. You will not be able to force business if there is danger, or low income.
        
        VladimirNET
        
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        25 September 2024 05: 21
        
        Quote: vlad127490
        You can't force yourself to do business if... your income is low.
        
        Business, where the state's share is 51% - it is possible, I have already given an example. By the way, I doubt that there is even one, completely state-owned enterprise. Give EXAMPLES (if they still exist in Russia), except for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the State Duma and others - not earning money.
        
        P.S. Everything that was - sold, partially or completely - what percentage of them is still in the hands of the state - is indicated here:
        https://bcs-express.ru/novosti-i-analitika/kompanii-s-gosudarstvennym-uchastiem-skol-ko-ikh
        
        As for your idea - to shift all low-income expenses to the state: the idea is so-so, no amount of money will be enough, because then the salaries at these enterprises will ALSO have to be subsidized from the budget (there is no income). THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.
        
        Because then, for sure, the oligarchs will take over the high-income industries, shifting ALL the low-income expenses there to the state.
        
        vlad127490
        
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        25 September 2024 13: 11
        
        As for your idea - to shift all low-income expenses to the state
        
        I have not proposed this and will never propose it. My proposal is to create an air carrier, the state-owned enterprise "Aviation and Aeronautics", and to concentrate all the aircraft produced in the Russian Federation in it. This enterprise will also have transport aviation.
        Benefits:
        - the influence of business and officials on this enterprise will be minimal;
        - the profitability of such an enterprise will not be lower than commercial;
        - it will cost less money, since it is a state-owned enterprise;
        - the issues of three crew members and kerosene consumption will fade into the background, since the strategic task of the Russian Federation is being fulfilled, which is to ensure air transportation of citizens and cargo on the territory of Russia;
        -there will be direct management and financing;
        - there will be a link between the production of aircraft and their operation;
        - planning will work;
        - there will be a competitor in air transportation, in the person of the state;
        - orders from the Ministry of Defense will be carried out by this enterprise.
        Why do you think this proposal is bad???
        
        VladimirNET
        
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        25 September 2024 15: 04
        
        Quote: vlad127490
        Why do you think this proposal is bad???
        
        I think "not quite so", or rather - this solution is not quite good. Reasons:
        1) aircraft development - financed by the state.
        2) You propose that the purchase of ALL aircraft (100%) also be paid for by the state.
        
        Your main idea is to prevent oligarchs from making money. But the company selling these planes is ALREADY private, so no matter how you look at it, the state will only lose more. In order to produce more planes, now we need to finance not the purchase, but EXACTLY their production: the construction of NEW factories or the renovation of old ones.
        
        Examples: this is what China does in car production, and it has already overtaken the EU and the US (in electric cars for sure).
        
        vlad127490
        
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        25 September 2024 16: 20
        
        My main idea is to develop the Russian aviation industry. The strategic task of the Russian Federation is to provide air transportation of citizens and cargo on the territory of Russia. Based on this, the creation of an air carrier, the state-owned enterprise "Aviation and Aeronautics" was proposed. Above, I showed the positive aspects of creating such a project. Nowhere in the world does business deal with solving the strategic tasks of the state, this is the prerogative of the state. Suggest your own solution to this issue, put it up for discussion here. Let the readers themselves determine what is good and what is bad. Your criticism without real proposals does not look very good. If you do not have a real proposal, then I suggest stopping here.
        
        VladimirNET
        
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        25 September 2024 16: 36
        
        Quote: vlad127490
        Nowhere in the world does business engage in solving the strategic tasks of the state
        
        Except for the case when such enterprises have already been created. In the Russian Federation, Aeroflot is such an enterprise. WHAT SPECIFICALLY do you not like - the purchase of aircraft by this company?
        
        P.S. Your idea that "otherwise you can earn EVEN MORE" - somehow sounds unconvincing, because this "EVEN MORE" is at the expense of the state, which is also waging a war, and the planes are civilian.
Rhetorical Rita

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23 September 2024 10: 29

First things first - planes...