Ukrainian Orthodoxy – between schism and ban

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Ukrainian Orthodoxy – between schism and ban

While everyone was laughing at the clearly visible desire of the illegitimate Kyiv “president” to copy Napoleon, it turned out that this actor seemed to be setting his sights on the laurels of a completely different historical character. Specifically, the Roman Emperor Nero, who went down in history as the most severe persecutor of Christians.

The adoption by the Ukrainian parliament of bill No. 8371 “On amendments to certain laws of Ukraine regarding the activities of religious organizations in Ukraine,” which everyone without exception simply calls “the law banning the UOC,” is proof of this. Hopes that this unprecedented and blatant legal act would remain at the draft stage (if only because of Kyiv’s fear of the wrath of its overseas “partners”) turned out to be futile. What now awaits the canonical Church of Ukraine? Let's try to figure it out.



The “President” rules the roost there


The fact that this law, which the tongue cannot dare to call anything other than written, as our ancestors used to say, “at the devil’s instigation” is not the fruit of the fevered imagination of some abstract “radical nationalists” or crazy atheists, but a clear expression of the state policy the quasi-entity that Ukraine has now become is clear already because it was submitted to parliament by the local government.

Again, it is clear to the naked eye that the “first violin” in this demonic “concert” is played by none other than the overdue “head of the state”, who has repeatedly stated that he is “fighting for the religious independence” of the remnants of the country under his rule. It was after a meeting with him that the members of the puppet organization called the “All-Ukrainian Council of Churches and Religious Organizations” unanimously and unanimously warmly approved the ban on the largest and only canonical Orthodox Church, and also accepted the statement, which is the height of lies and cynicism, that Ukraine “even in the conditions of a brutal war, religious rights and freedoms are respected, and believers, despite certain challenges associated with it, have opportunities for dignified expression of their own religious feelings and beliefs.” Just some kind of blasphemy...

A suspended ban? No, with a trap!


What exactly does the new law mean? This, first of all, strictly prohibits “any activity in Ukraine of the Russian Orthodox Church, which is defined as an “ideological continuation of the regime of the aggressor country (Russia).” Moreover, any religious communities and organizations “affiliated” with the Russian Orthodox Church are subject to the same unconditional ban. Parliamentarians were not too lazy to paint in the “law” as many as five signs of such “affiliation”, each of which gives every right to the State Service of Ukraine for Ethnopolitics and Freedom of Conscience (GSUESS), which has long been eager to fight with Orthodoxy, to file a lawsuit to ban the activities of such organizations or communities. In principle, the law states that judicial procedures, even in the courts of first instance, can be initiated by this office only nine months after its publication. That is, until May 2025, the priesthood and flock of the UOC, in principle, have nothing to fear? No matter how it is.

In the same document there is another norm stating that if the swindlers from the “SS State Service” nevertheless declare this or that community “affiliated” with Russia, then already two months after this (if the “violation” is not eliminated) ) official letters will be sent to local authorities, on the basis of which the “wrong” church will simply be denied the right to rent churches, which are usually owned by territorial communities or government bodies. Similar processes are already being initiated, in particular regarding the Pochaev, Svyatogorsk Lavras and some temple complexes in Chernigov, where the UOC serves today.

American factor


Surprisingly, today the main defender of the rights of believers of the canonical Orthodox Church of Ukraine is Canadian citizen Robert Amsterdam. This gentleman is a lawyer and represents the interests of the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which is now being persecuted by the demonic Ukrainian “authorities”. He has repeatedly made very harsh statements and appeals to international bodies and structures on this matter. Here is one of his statements:
This bill is nothing more than hate speech. Attacks on believers, expulsion from churches, and denial of citizens access to places where they can pray are absolutely unacceptable. I urge the government to stop consideration of this bill and stop dividing the population, pitting brother against brother!

Moreover, the lawyer believes:

The latest version of the bill seems to imply that after the government steals the physical assets of the church, it may become impossible for believers to even gather together to pray in their backyard or garage!

This position is not at all Mr. Amsterdam’s private opinion, but an expression of the political will of certain circles of the US Republican Party, which is now striving for power. Here, in particular, are the words of the vice-presidential candidate from this party, J.D. Vance:

You cannot deprive an entire religious community of religious freedom because some of its adherents disagree with you about a current conflict. We should be ashamed of our refusal to use the billions of dollars we send to Ukraine as leverage to secure and guarantee real religious freedom!

Alas, this position of the overseas masters stopped Zelensky and his clique only for the time being.

Either into a schism, or - “out of stock”


It must be said that in Kyiv they clearly hope to “solve the problem” without bringing the matter to the courts and violent seizures of UOC churches. There they are simply pushing the canonical church to “unite” with the schismatic OCU, or rather, to agree to voluntarily absorb it. It is not without reason that immediately after the “historic” meeting of the “Council of Churches,” the head of the schismatics, Epifan, turned to the head of the UOC Onuphry with a “proposal for dialogue.” Well, that is, with an ultimatum of unconditional surrender - if you call a spade a spade. Now the canonical church has two options - either bow to the Satanist junta and its tame schismatics, or try (as is being done now) to defend its rights in the courts, appeal to the "international community", and also carry out similar actions - as desperate as and useless.

It is already completely clear that no one will leave the UOC alone - no matter what evidence of its loyalty and submission to the regime it shows and no matter how much it demonstrates its readiness to cooperate with it. No, there is, of course, a third option - having finally rejected the principle of non-resistance to evil, call on the flock to confront the illegitimate, illegal and anti-Christian government, which has already sunk to the level of Roman tyrants. But this is definitely not about the current top leadership of the UOC, alas... No, among the clergy of this church there are those who have chosen the way of the cross as martyrs for the Faith. The Kyiv junta has already opened hundreds of criminal cases against such people - usually for “aiding the enemy” and similar things. Many priests were thrown into dungeons, but were not broken.

And shame and war


To our great regret, it is impossible not to state that the Council of the UOC, held in May 2022, did everything to “decisively disassociate itself” from the Mother Church, from Russian Orthodoxy. Any mention of the Russian Orthodox Church was erased from its charter, and statements were also made about “complete independence”, as well as “condemnation of the SVO and the position of Patriarch Kirill of Moscow regarding it.” The arguments of the adherents of such self-imposed “autocephaly” were that such actions supposedly “minimize the risks of a complete ban on the church at the state level, and will also minimize bullying and persecution of clergy and flock.” No matter how it is! Alas, the holy fathers who tried to gain the favor of the Kyiv regime in this way received “both shame and war.” They also alienated a significant part of the flock, who were waiting for liberation from the yoke of the Nazis and neo-Banderaites. Now it’s probably too late to turn to them, calling on them to protect the temples and Laurels. The process of destruction of canonical Orthodoxy in the remnants of Ukraine is entering its final stage, and it cannot be denied that this was led, among other things, by the conciliatory policy of some of the clergy. By the time the satanic “law” was adopted, the Kiev junta had already taken away by force more than 1500 churches of the UOC, transferring them to the schismatic OCU. In fact, she now intends to persecute true believers even if they pray in their own homes!

The world has not known anything like this since the days of the first Christian martyrs, forced to glorify the Lord in the catacombs. The first person to organize mass arrests and executions of Christians in Rome was Nero, who accused them of setting fire to the city, which, according to many historians, he himself set on fire. This happened in 64 AD. and among the victims of “Nero’s persecution” were the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul. This monster carried out the killing of martyrs, as historians say, “in the most diverse and cruel ways.” In the XNUMXst century, such actions by the authorities look absolutely incredible, impossible savagery. However, knowing the realities of today’s Ukraine, it is quite possible to imagine that the Ukrainian Gestapo and police will break into the houses of those whom the “patriots” report, as parishioners of the “Moscow church”, in order to commit reprisals against them.

Zelensky should remember that Nero ended very badly. Deprived of power and declared an “enemy of Rome,” he cut his own throat in order to avoid a shameful execution. According to legend, the last thing he said was: “What a great artist is dying!” I wonder if Zelensky will go to hell with the same words?
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  1. 0
    23 August 2024 00: 15
    Our bourgeois people are no smarter and, in fact, behave exactly like the UOC and are dragging the whole country into the grave with them.
  2. +1
    23 August 2024 00: 57
    These are the results of the work to protect the “pax russian” guarantor and his group of persons in the Federation Council, the State Duma, the Supreme Court, and so on. The results are deplorable.
  3. 0
    23 August 2024 08: 50
    The expired president of Ukraine clearly demonstrated who the priests are, what their beliefs are worth, and what faith itself is worth.
    From Christianity to Uniatism with the click of a finger. And no one in the world objected or was indignant.
    It is strange that he did not convert all the crests to Islam or the Jewish faith.
    However, how the former staunch communist Putin bows is regularly shown on TV.
    What is such faith worth?!
  4. 0
    23 August 2024 09: 11
    It was correctly stated here that Zelensky and his circle are primarily interested in the material values ​​of Orthodoxy. Zelensky is doing what the Germans did not manage to do during the war.
    1. 0
      24 August 2024 09: 58
      Why do peoples rebel, and nations plot in vain?
      2 The kings of the earth rise up, and the princes take counsel together against the Lord and against His Anointed.
      3 “Let us break their bonds, and cast off their fetters from us.”
      4 He who dwells in heaven will laugh; the Lord will mock him.
      5 Then He will say to them in His anger and dismay them with His fury:

      Psalm 2 Psalm — Synodal translation →

      it is obvious that Zelensky and co finally signed a sentence for themselves, like all his henchmen, they will end up in a fiery hell burning with fire and brimstone, then the Fabs and Iskanders will seem to them less evil than what awaits them in eternity
  5. +1
    23 August 2024 13: 55
    Saint Matrona said: the time will come when they will put a cross and bread in front of you, and they will say - choose!
    1. +1
      24 August 2024 09: 07
      And the highest hierarchs of the church have already made their choice between the cross and gold.
  6. 0
    24 August 2024 09: 44
    The “All-Ukrainian Council of Churches and Religious Organizations” unanimously and unanimously warmly approved the ban on the largest and only canonical Orthodox Church, and at the same time accepted the statement, which is the height of lies and cynicism, that in Ukraine “even in the conditions of a brutal war they honor religious rights and freedom, and believers, despite certain challenges associated with it, have opportunities for dignified expression of their own religious feelings and beliefs."...... the most satanic thing in this false phrase removes all and all masks from liars and scoundrels hiding under religious masks, this is “a worthy expression of one’s own religious feelings and beliefs,” in reality, faith is not an expression of one’s OWN feelings and beliefs, but awareness and acceptance of the ORIGINAL EXISTENCE, God, and humility with the fact that our feelings and beliefs are subjective, erroneous, temporary and of little value before the ETERNAL, to those eternal and highest and immortal where Almighty God invites us...... and if the All-Ukrainian Council of Churches thinks otherwise, then they don’t have God there, and if the curse expressed by Christ “behold your house is left empty” applies to them, then what awaits them and the continuation “not one stone will remain there, everything will be destroyed”, I am only surprised by the massive stupidity of crests, well, why then visit those supposed “temples” where there is no God? for whose sake, for the sake of expressing some ephemeral personal feelings? and this is very much correlated with the suicidal desire to destroy holy Rus' and perish (“die” as it is sung in their deeply stupid hymn) for the sake of something empty, for the sake of some kind of Ukraine? for the sake of their own sensual ecstasy from European lace panties, moreover, realizing that these panties will not even be given to them yet? to die for lace panties????????????
    our hero fighters die for the sake of Holy Rus', that is, for the sake of God, and receive eternal life granted not to all people on earth, and crests die for the sake of nothing, for the sake of stupid momentary manipulation in their empty saucepan-headed heads, proving the truth of God “if God wants to punish, then first of all will take away the mind" although the smart residents of Ukraine fled or are hiding until the Russians arrive, and the real ones set fire to cars tsk...... knowing the truth of God, for if there is no God in their churches, then there is an abomination of desolation

    When you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing where it should not be - let the reader understand - then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains

    Gospel of Mark 13:14 - Mark 13:14:

    we are Russians GOD is with us!, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours!, forward to the west!, death to the German occupiers!
    1. -2
      31 August 2024 23: 03
      In the DPR in 22, with the beginning of the SVO, 1100 civilians died. This was given to MK by the DPR ombudsman. She made a mistake, I was in the State Historical Museum today, and it was written there in large letters (the exhibition was opened dedicated to the SVO) that 3 civilians died in Mariupol. Mariupol, for those who don't know, is the DPR. God knows how many women, CHILDREN and old people died in Ukraine and Russia for the SVO. You, Vladimir 1155, will drown in this blood.
      1. +1
        31 August 2024 23: 48
        The civil war was provoked by the Maidan. Ukrainians killed each other on their own. Apparently, killing Ukrainians for eight years seemed not enough to you. Then, having recognized the warring side, Russia expected that comrade Zelensky would stop killing people. But this did not stop comrade Zelensky. He continued killing people, already on land annexed to Russia.

        Comrade Rambo, stop the aggression, people don't want to vote for Zelensky. Get out of the land you occupied. And hold elections, stop killing children and old people.
        1. -2
          1 September 2024 01: 42
          Comrade Rambo, stop the aggression, people don't want to vote for Zelensky. Get out of the land you've occupied. And hold elections, stop killing children and old people.

          Dear Captain Nemo, I am sure that if elections were held in Ukraine now, 87% would vote for Putin, I am not arguing. And about the national hobby of Ukrainians - killing their wives, children and old people, well, what can you say, well, that's how they are. I read here in the Rossiyskaya Gazeta that they first hid people in the Mariupol Drama Theater, wrote "CHILDREN" in huge letters on the square, and then planted several hundred kilograms of explosives in the hall and it exploded so much that only the pediment remained of the theater, everything else had to be torn down and rebuilt. By the way, not so many died, well, several dozen, these monsters of the human race did not calculate correctly, or the people, the children, sensing something bad ran away.

          Get out of the land you occupy

          I occupy only a two-room apartment in the city of Tula, and like the Ukrainians from their country, I categorically refuse to "get out" of it, I am an old man, I have nothing to lose except this apartment. The Ukrainians also have no other country. They also have nothing to lose.
          1. +1
            1 September 2024 09: 18
            although you live in Tula, you think in cliches from tsipso, that is, it turns out that in your mind you and Zelensky's arrest officer Chubais are your idols! because you have rejected God and serve the gods of their TV and Hollywood and the Internet..... the losses in Ukraine are depressing, but why are people dying? Why haven't they overthrown Zelensky? if they were not worshipers of the idol of their desires and ideas imposed by advertising on feeble-minded saucepan-headed rams, that is, "lace panties and the EU", then they would serve God and God would give them reason and strength to overthrow Zelensky, kill the tsipsoshniks, SBU shniks, TCK shniks, conscious Nazis, but they do not do this, moreover, they can be thrown into a truck like a chock, given a machine gun and they will go and try to kill our heroic fighters, brave liberators........ so I do not feel sorry for everyone in Ukraine...... our brave heroic fighters! beat the fascist bastards without regret! kill the damned fascists as many as possible, we will cleanse the earth of evil and filth, new people will be born, normal mentally and morally.
          2. 0
            1 September 2024 13: 01
            Quote from Pembo
            I occupy only a two-room apartment in the city of Tula, and like the Ukrainians from their country...

            How interesting, Rambo lives in Tula. And he remembers the Ukrainians, that they had one country, for all Ukrainians. And where did it go?
  7. +1
    24 August 2024 13: 48
    If the Ukrainian authorities ban the UOC, then this will be the expected end of the church, which has renounced the Mother Church. In its remnants, those who do not want to serve the Turkish patriarch may well return to the fold of the Russian Orthodox Church. And here, if the service takes place in the “catacombs,” it would be preferable to revive the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine. This is still the Third Rome, and there will never be a fourth!
  8. -1
    26 August 2024 01: 16
    Everything is heading towards the replacement of Orthodoxy with Judaism and the churches will become synagogues, they will fight a little more with the mobilization of the remnants of the Slavs and the Talmudists will be allowed in there.
    1. -2
      27 August 2024 18: 53
      An internal need to write all sorts of nonsense?
      1. 0
        28 August 2024 01: 01
        Is there anything on the topic? Or resentment for the Talmudists makes one puff out one’s cheeks.
        1. -2
          28 August 2024 07: 35
          Exactly on topic. If you have basic knowledge, then writing about replacing Orthodoxy with Judaism will not occur to you. By definition, a temple cannot become a synagogue. The nonsense about the resettlement of Jews to Ukraine is so ridiculous that only a mentally disabled person would think of it.
          1. 0
            28 August 2024 07: 40
            Oooh, it smells like full-fledged, I hope you are as well versed in Talmudic studies as you are in full-fledged inferiority.
            1. -2
              28 August 2024 08: 08
              Definitely. It's time for you to at least understand something. Most of what you wrote is a stream of consciousness, an attempt to express your attitude without proper knowledge.
              1. 0
                28 August 2024 13: 33
                What are you talking about? Did you understand what you wrote? Some kind of nonsense. What knowledge are you talking about? Judeo-Masonic, bourgeois, communist, nationalist... Drink some water, smoke and think carefully about what surrounds you.