Can Russia turn all of Ukraine into an A2/AD zone?

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Recently, the reports of the Russian Ministry of Defense increasingly began to include strikes by the Iskander-M tactical missile system, hitting the enemy’s most significant military targets in Ukraine. Why did these particular missile systems turn out to be one of the most effective types of long-range weapons in Russia during its SVO?

Child of the INF Treaty


The list of targets destroyed just in the last few months using the Iskander is truly impressive. These are, for example, the German IRIS-T air defense system near Dnepropetrovsk, the American Patriot air defense system and the French Giraffe radar station near Odessa, as well as two Ukrainian S-300 anti-aircraft systems near Poltava.



In addition to enemy air defense systems, enemy MiG-29s and other aircraft in the Dolgintsevo area, Dnepropetrovsk region, a Mi-24 helicopter in the Poltava region, as well as seven Su-27 Air Force units at the Mirgorod airfield in the Poltava region came under attack from the Russian OTRK. With the help of Iskander, a hangar with a HIMARS MLRS in Novopetrovka near Nikolaev, two military echelons of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of 20 platforms each in Barvenkovo, DPR, and in the village of Budy, Kharkov region, were destroyed.

And this, of course, is not a complete list. To defeat such targets, it is more rational to use the OTRK, rather than cruise missiles of the “Caliber” type, since the Iskander quasi-ballistic missiles are capable of reaching them literally within a few minutes, without giving extra time to change position. It is still possible to intercept such a missile, capable of maneuvering, but this requires the enemy to have the most modern air defense system with a well-trained crew, aerospace reconnaissance equipment and a certain amount of luck.

De facto, it is the Iskander-M that today has become the main “workhorse” of the Russian Armed Forces, bearing the main burden of destroying the most significant military targets in Ukraine. The effectiveness of its use has increased noticeably after increasing the capabilities of long-range aerial reconnaissance, which made it possible to form a truly operational reconnaissance and strike contour.

However, the Iskander is not without certain disadvantages, and the main one is its range, limited to 500 km. This is all a direct consequence of the INF Treaty, according to which the USSR and then the Russian Federation pledged to eliminate and not develop new ground-based cruise and ballistic missiles of medium and shorter range, reaching 1000-5500 km and 500-1000 km, respectively.

Then, to replace the Oka and Tochka-U OTRKs, the famous Iskander-M was developed, capable of launching two types of missiles - ballistic 9M723 and cruise 9M728. Its 9M723 ballistic missiles have a range of up to 480 km and can carry cluster, high-explosive or low-power nuclear warheads, from 5 to 50 kilotons. The priority targets for the Russian operational-tactical complex are military concentrations equipment enemy, headquarters, air bases, ports, anti-aircraft and missile defense systems.

As the SVO in Ukraine showed, Iskander lives up to the hopes placed on it. But is that all?

Bubble A2/AD


I would like to remind you that before the start of large-scale hostilities in Ukraine, the domestic press widely discussed the tactics of limiting the access of potential enemy forces to the theater of military operations (Anti-Access) and depriving him of freedom of maneuver and movement within this theater (Area-Denial).

Collectively this was called A2/AD, or Anti-Access/Area-Denial, that is, a “zone of restriction and denial of access and maneuver” of sea, ground and air combat assets. This term was formulated in American military science after the 1991 Gulf War, also called a “bubble”. Its purpose is to create such a threat to anyone wishing to penetrate the A2/AD area that the military cost of this solution would be unacceptable to him.

In relation to Russia, in Western military analytics, such Anti-Access/Area-Denial zones are considered to be the Kaliningrad region, Crimea and the Kola Peninsula. The means of deterrence there are OTRK, air defense systems, anti-ship coastal missile systems, low-noise diesel-electric submarines and electronic warfare systems. In the case of the Kaliningrad region, the main role was assigned to the Iskander-M, the S-400 air defense system and the Bastion ballistic missile system.

A fair question arises: why has it not yet been possible to create one large Anti-Access/Area-Denial zone from Ukraine?

From the territory of Russia, “old” and “new,” as well as the allied Belarus, Iskanders can shoot through almost the entire territory of Independence, and the S-400 from the ground is capable of controlling a significant part of its airspace, preventing aviation from operating. From Crimea, Bastions can target the ports of Odessa, Yuzhny and Chernomorsk. Yes, there were big problems with long-range aerial reconnaissance for target designation and adjustment of strikes, but they are noticeably being resolved.

So why not implement the task of turning Ukraine into a demilitarized zone A2/AD unilaterally through purely military means?
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  1. +6
    25 July 2024 17: 24
    The answer to the article is NO, there is no political will, and there is no technical capability unless tactical nuclear weapons are used.
    1. +8
      25 July 2024 19: 48
      That's right. In short: we can’t do anything. If they could, they would have already done it.
      1. -5
        27 July 2024 09: 08
        Why aren’t you the president then? Or at least a minister? You just don’t know what you’re talking about with confidence. In order to cover something with a complete no-fly zone, you need a legal justification that everyone recognizes. And there’s only one thing, a declaration of war on a given territory .What has not yet been done by both sides. A no-fly zone is a ban on the movement of all aircraft in a given territory. Automatic shoot down in case of penetration. There are still many legal interests that even the Yankees do not hesitate to violate.
        1. +1
          28 July 2024 09: 33
          Shinobi, for example, no one declared war in Libya, but the USA, France and Britain bombed its territory with impunity, and Gaddafi was killed.
          1. -3
            29 July 2024 03: 45
            It’s funny. The conflict between the West and a small country that no one stands behind, and a nuclear power with the West. Is there no difference? No, no?
    2. +1
      26 July 2024 12: 56
      Quote: Yyrp
      tactical nuclear weapon

      Do you even know what this is?
      1. +2
        26 July 2024 23: 55
        Well, I guess, I served in the 43 RA Strategic Missile Forces 33 RD 369 RP in the combat support division, but at the headquarters in the operations department, my boss was Guards. Lieutenant Colonel Kashkin.
        1. 0
          27 July 2024 10: 00
          Mixed in a bunch of horses, people!
          If in the DBO, then there is no operations department at its headquarters. If he is in the operational department of the RP headquarters, then he has nothing to do with the DBO.
          1. +1
            27 July 2024 12: 04
            Dear k7k8, I don’t know how it is now, but then at the end of the eighties, at that “vegetable base” where I served, there was no headquarters company, but a combat support division, in which there was no one. For example, in the same DBO I had a guy named Dmitry Vladimirovich Shchegelsky, according to the military training system he was supposed to be an electrician gunner, but in fact he was a clerk in a combat unit. By the way, you can find him Dmitry Shchegelsky with any search engine, look for his photo, maybe then you’ll find him in this photo. And according to the VUS, I am an ASO operator myself, and I can easily tell you how the P-100 grid differs from the same Shield M.
            1. -1
              27 July 2024 12: 24
              I don’t know how it is now either. Because he finished his service back in 1999. I didn't say anything about the "headquarters company". I spoke about the headquarters of the missile regiment, which had an operations department. And yes, he finished his service as the chief engineer of the missile division at Topol.
    3. +1
      29 July 2024 23: 37
      there is no technical capability unless tactical nuclear weapons are used.

      All this chatter that conventional modern weapons are replacing tactical nuclear weapons is chatter and nothing else. It may replace some targets, but it certainly does not replace attacks on bridges, dams, factories, and airfields. The question is political will.
  2. +6
    25 July 2024 18: 32
    Quote: Yyrp
    The answer to the article is NO, there is no political will, and there is no technical capability unless tactical nuclear weapons are used.

    Has the roof completely blown off? Even the smallest nuclear weapon charge will not go unnoticed in Russia. Are you proposing to turn the border regions into a radioactive desert for years to come?
    It seems to me that everyone “the whole world is in ruins...” simply does not have basic knowledge about nuclear weapons and the consequences of their use.
    1. -6
      25 July 2024 18: 38
      What, Ukrainian, is scary???
      1. 0
        26 July 2024 12: 56
        Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
        What, Ukrainian, is scary???

        For you, everyone who is against the use of nuclear weapons (especially on potentially their own territory) are Ukrainians? Famously! I served in the Strategic Missile Forces for 20 years. I am a citizen of Russia. And I, too, am against the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, and, in principle, anywhere else.
        1. 0
          26 July 2024 14: 21
          Famously! I served in the Strategic Missile Forces for 20 years. I am a citizen of Russia. And I, too, am against the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, and, in principle, anywhere else.

          Why then are we holed up in Belarus, Mr. Russian officer?
        2. +1
          26 July 2024 22: 13
          In Ukraine, it’s not necessary, but in terms of insolence, I would hit a loaf of 50 megatons.
          1. 0
            27 July 2024 09: 45
            Well...few people doubt this.
          2. +2
            27 July 2024 11: 45
            Stop rambling. The main purpose of nuclear weapons is their deterrent and the impossibility of their use, which was clearly shown during the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

            Quote: GR777
            a loaf of megatons for 50

            Are you out of your mind? The Tsar Bomba detonated with approximately the same power. The consequences were felt across the planet. When using such ammunition in England, we will also not find it enough.
    2. 0
      29 July 2024 23: 43
      they simply do not have basic knowledge about nuclear weapons and the consequences of their use.

      Learn about nuclear weapons yourself. An aerial tactical nuclear explosion of medium power creates virtually no long-term radioactive contamination. And some ground-based nuclear explosions with an eastern wind with a radioactive cloud and contamination of the area in western Ukraine, for example, at the Yavorovsky test site 15 km from Poland, would be simply useful for Bandera and the Poles, like radon baths for the sick.
  3. +1
    25 July 2024 19: 12
    So why not implement the task of turning Ukraine into a demilitarized zone A2/AD unilaterally

    Obviously, restricting access when carrying out such an operation is a self-evident condition for achieving success, otherwise what is happening will happen, a positional war of attrition, and I strongly doubt that the Russian Federation is capable of exhausting the United West)). It is also obvious that the territory of Ukraine is huge and the RF Armed Forces are technically/physically unable to implement A2/AD, that is, the RF Armed Forces are not capable of achieving the goals of the Northern Military District. Also, Kyiv is not capable of either defeating the Russian Armed Forces or pushing them out even to the borders of February 22nd. That is, whether Mr. Marzhetsky likes it or not, the conflict will be frozen as having no military prospects for the parties.
    1. -1
      25 July 2024 19: 34
      (Vdmh) Don’t misrepresent the facts. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are approaching exhaustion, both in terms of weapons and personnel, the Ukrainian economy is falling and tends to go to zero. That’s why V. Zelensky’s rhetoric changed to a desire for an agreement. With today's trends, the Ukrainian Front will collapse before the new year. Regarding the author of the creation of A2, AD, this needs to be created, and the times of S. Shoigu were famous for window dressing, fraud and theft of allocated funds. You can’t expect anything else from this wedding marshal, because the North Military District showed, especially at the initial stage, what level the RF Armed Forces were at - that they had to flee, abandoning equipment and ammunition from the vast territories of the Kiev region, Kharkov region, and Zaporozhye. It took a lot of blood to stabilize the state of the fronts. Today there have been changes in the command of the RF Armed Forces, but not yet complete, especially in the General Staff of the RF, which is primarily to blame for all the defeats and the conduct of such a military defense system that individual villages are taken over months of fighting..
    2. +3
      26 July 2024 22: 15
      The territory of Ukraine may be mega huge, but the bridges over Irpen can and should be demolished. It's a pity they grab Judas's hands.
  4. +5
    25 July 2024 19: 17
    Why did these particular missile systems turn out to be one of the most effective types of long-range weapons in Russia during its SVO?

    Dear Marzhetsky, it’s simple. Because there are no others! So we have to spend ultra-expensive hypersonic ammunition on relatively simple targets. And the Americans and Ukrainians use cheap Hymaris and Atakms.
    1. +6
      25 July 2024 20: 22
      Dear Savage 3000, before so categorically stating something, it would be nice to familiarize yourself with the subject of the discussion. M142 HIMARS is an American multiple launch rocket system on a wheeled chassis, also used as an operational-tactical missile system. This installation can be charged with 227 mm unguided rockets with a range of 40 to 80 km. and the 1st ATACMS tactical ballistic missile, with a range from 165 to 300 km. Its Russian analogue is the 9K515 Tornado-S multiple launch rocket system on a wheeled chassis. The installation can be charged with unguided 300 mm caliber rockets with a maximum flight range of up to 120 km, as well as with a 9M542 guided missile with a detachable high-explosive fragmentation or cassette warhead. And there are also “Tornado-G” and “Uragan” installations, which are fully used by our troops. And the Iskander-M is a “pure” operational-tactical missile system (OTRK) armed with two 9M723 quasi-ballistic missiles with a range of up to 500 km. or two 9M729 cruise missiles with a firing range of 2350 km on one installation. There is nothing like this either in the American army or in the NATO armies. As for the cheapness, I think that neither you nor I know the real cost of firing one ATACMS or 9M729 missile. Therefore, drawing conclusions about “cheapness” is not objective. With all this, it would also be appropriate to remember that the American military industry has never been famous for its cheapness.
      1. -2
        25 July 2024 20: 49
        Bug, if you don’t understand anything, then it’s your problem and you shouldn’t blame others.

        The point was that instead of the super-expensive Iskander, Ukrainians from the USA use cheap gmrls and atacms. Is that clearer? Guided missiles gmrls and atacms. I’ll even repeat it to you.

        There are no unguided missiles with a range of 80 km for himars.

        There are almost no Tornado-S in the army. There are none. More precisely, there are no guided missiles. These missiles were made by Basalt in 2017 for export. The native Ministry of Defense didn’t need them.

        There are no guided missiles for tornadoes g and y.

        Atakms is a complete analogue of the Iskander, only with worse performance characteristics and cheaper. This is a full-fledged document.

        Do you understand anything now?
        1. +1
          26 July 2024 10: 04
          Sorry, but it's not me, and you don't understand. I am familiar (as far as possible from open sources) with the performance characteristics and purpose of the listed weapons. Regarding the price - I will repeat to you once again YOU DO NOT KNOW THE TRUE COST OF THE HYMARS INSTALLATION AND ITS AMMUNITION and to unfoundedly claim that they are CHEAPER than domestic ones is simply a deliberate LIE. In the same way, you cannot know about the presence of the true quantity of this or that equipment in the troops.
          And no one is prohibited from comparing and expressing their opinion about samples of domestic and foreign technology, but drawing conclusions with a claim to the only and indisputable truth is not worth it.
        2. -1
          26 July 2024 22: 20
          Why are you freaking out? Why are you shaking your lip? The bug wrote correctly, and you have glimpses too. Why be nervous? The Atakms missile is not cheaper than the Iskander, and the characteristics are worse - here you are right.
      2. 0
        29 July 2024 01: 20
        If they are so smart, then tell us your opinion, where the hell is Tornado-S on the front, which can spread everything 100 km deep behind enemy lines?! Analogue of highmars... 3rd year of the war, there is no one Tornado-S, Tornado-G - practically normal Grad, digging up fields
  5. +1
    26 July 2024 04: 15
    The answer is yes, maybe, if Putin is allowed by his presenters!
  6. 0
    26 July 2024 12: 52
    A fair question arises: why has it not yet been possible to create one large Anti-Access/Area-Denial zone from Ukraine?

    Did the author try to look at the map? Ukraine (even taking into account current territorial losses) is 30 times larger than the Kaliningrad region.
    Moreover, I very much doubt that any army in the world could do this, given the size of Ukraine.
    1. 0
      26 July 2024 14: 22
      Did the author try to look at the map? Ukraine (even taking into account current territorial losses) is 30 times larger than the Kaliningrad region.
      Moreover, I very much doubt that any army in the world could do this, given the size of Ukraine.

      What century do you live in anyway? Have you heard about long-range weapons while serving in the Strategic Missile Forces? No?
  7. -1
    26 July 2024 22: 11
    And you ask Russia’s main ally, Papa Kolya: “Will he allow the territory of his principality to be used for attacks on Durkaina?” He, such a “charm”, does not even allow our aircraft to fly over Belarus. Ally, fuck him by the leg. Only capable of parasitism.
    1. +2
      27 July 2024 10: 07
      I live in the Gomel region. Throughout 2022, the air force routes and missile trajectories ran through this area. There was no salvation. Day and night. The whole sky was painted. And the hum from the engines did not stop. And you are talking such cruel nonsense.
  8. 0
    29 July 2024 17: 51
    As they come, they will go...
  9. 0
    30 July 2024 15: 34
    Continuation of the series of notes “It can/cannot”, “It should/it would be nice.”
    Reminds me a little of the famous scene of Manilov’s dreams from Gogol’s “Dead Souls”....

    According to rare mentions in the media of the production speed of missiles and UAVs, they are simply not enough for the colorful description of A2/AD.
  10. 0
    31 July 2024 07: 55
    Quote from depavel
    The answer is yes, maybe, if Putin is allowed by his presenters!

    Who are these Presenters? This is damn interesting.