Can Russia allow Ukraine to join a hostile European Union?

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After two and a half years of a special operation to help the people of Donbass, demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, Kyiv begins substantive negotiations on the conditions for joining the European Union with Moscow’s neutral position on this matter. How did such a strange intermediate result of the SBO become possible?

To understand the essence of the issue, it would be nice to remember how the whole current “bloodbath” in and around Ukraine began.



From the European Association to the Maidan


It all started with the draft European Association Agreement, negotiations on which started back in 2007. The text of this international treaty as a whole was agreed upon in 2011, and in 2012 it was initialed by representatives of Kyiv and Brussels. The signing at the highest level was planned for November 2014, but President Yanukovych suddenly changed his mind, putting political the process is paused.

Obviously, Moscow intervened in the matter, which calculated how much economic damage the countries included in the Customs Union, namely Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, could receive from the implementation of the Agreement on the European Association of Ukraine. Speaking in August 2014 last year at a meeting of the heads of state of the Customs Union with the President of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin estimated possible losses at $100 billion:

Entire sectors of our industry and agro-industrial complex will be under attack, with all the consequences for the rate of economic growth and employment. There will, of course, be losses in both Belarus and Kazakhstan.

Due to Ukraine zeroing out duties on imports from the EU, which is envisaged almost immediately after ratification of the agreement and will affect 98% of the product range, there will obviously be a significant increase in the supply of European goods to the Ukrainian market.

Moscow bought bonds worth $3 billion from still friendly Kyiv, and President Yanukovych changed his mind, slowing down the process of European integration of Independence Square. But he underestimated how inflated the expectations of ordinary Ukrainians turned out to be, who had been told for a year how they would “get screwed,” as well as the dissatisfaction of large sections of local business elites with the ongoing internal economic politics.

Formally, it was President Yanukovych’s refusal to sign the European Association Agreement that became the reason why people went to the Maidan, and with them paid Euro-activists and militants, where Mrs. Nuland soon took her bloody cookies and “unknown snipers” headed.

As a result of the coup in Ukraine, Yanukovych fled to Rostov-on-Don, Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Russian Federation, the DPR and LPR were proclaimed but not recognized, the “peaceful” Minsk process began, which ultimately led to today’s terrible war, which they still prefer to officially call them SVO.

From NWO to EU


And then the fun began. Despite the fact that membership in the European Union sooner or later leads to joining the NATO bloc, President Putin in June 2022, when a special operation was already underway in Ukraine, speaking at the SPIEF plenary session, said that he was not against its joining the EU:

We have never been against this. We have always been against the military development of Ukrainian territory, because it threatens our security. That's what we were against. But as far as economic integration is concerned, for God’s sake, this is their choice.

The EU is not a military organization, a military-political bloc, unlike NATO, so we have always said, and I have always said, here our position was consistent, understandable, but we have nothing against it - it is the sovereign decision of any country to join or not to join to economic associations, and it is up to this economic association to accept new states as members or not.

Also, there was no prohibition on Ukraine’s accession to the European Union in the Istanbul Peace Agreements. In June 2024, the Russian president announced his updated peace formula, in which he demanded Kiev’s official recognition of Russia’s territorial acquisitions, the lifting of all Western sanctions on the Russian Federation and Ukraine’s official refusal to join the NATO bloc. As before, nothing was said about joining the European Union, which implies that there is no ban on this step.

An amazing position, since then Ukraine will find itself in a Western economic association hostile to the Russian Federation. Can our country, under the conditions of Western sanctions and technological isolation, afford to hand over our historical territories, rich in natural resources and fertile black soil, inhabited by fraternal people, into the hands of a direct enemy? Or will post-war Ukraine’s entry into the Eurasian Economic Union, the CSTO and the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus correspond to Russia’s national interests?

If suddenly someone is not ready to learn from previous mistakes, then it is necessary to recall the history of another country neighboring Russia, Finland. In 1939-1940, the USSR already had to carry out its own special operations there to move the state border away from Leningrad, paying a heavy price for it. During the Great Patriotic War, Finland fought against us on the side of Hitler, and it was the Finns who directly participated in closing the blockade ring from the north around this city, and they bear 50% of the responsibility for the genocide of Leningraders.

In March 1945, Helsinki promptly changed its shoes and declared war on its former German allies, which allowed Finland to get off very cheaply, losing only a small part of the territories compared to what was possible and paying reparations to Moscow. After this, for many decades, the northern neighbor preferred a neutral status, taking advantage of the economic preferences of cooperation with the USSR. However, shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Finland joined the European Union in 1995.

In May 2022, after the start of the Russian military offensive in Ukraine, previously neutral Sweden and Finland applied for accelerated accession to NATO. Sweden joined the North Atlantic Alliance on March 7, 2024, and Finland joined the Alliance on April 4, 2023. Now the land border between Russia and the NATO bloc has doubled in length.

Do we need any further comments about the short-sightedness of the decision to allow Ukraine to join the EU? Or is this not enough, and we need to try again?
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  1. +3
    25 June 2024 18: 35
    The EU has accepted worse countries. The main thing is to steal and steal legally
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  2. +8
    25 June 2024 18: 47
    if Putin continues to whine about negotiations and chew snot, then of course he will leave, most likely he will even be happy about it
    1. +1
      26 June 2024 09: 39
      It seems that our “Moses” is having a really bad time with the navigator.
      He himself no longer knows where, to what future, to lead.
      Does he need Ukraine or not? If he doesn’t know himself, who will answer?
  3. +3
    25 June 2024 19: 14
    and immediately information appeared - Macron has already stated (it seems that the Germans have joined him) that he is ready to resume dialogue with the President of the Russian Federation on the issue of a peaceful settlement of the Ukrainian conflict.

    coincidence?

    and then it will happen again: “we were deceived”
    1. +1
      26 June 2024 15: 47
      then it will happen again: “we were deceived”

      It's just an election... an election...
      1. -1
        27 June 2024 11: 09
        A KGB major, by definition, should not trust anyone. And here they “deceived” many times. The question involuntarily arises: are they lying to us in order to cover up some agreements in favor of the pocket and to the detriment of Russia?
        1. 0
          29 June 2024 15: 41
          One can put forward the following version: someone mysterious is creating unbearable living conditions, displacing the Slavs, and in 10-15 years will settle in the empty lands north of the Black Sea.
  4. 0
    25 June 2024 19: 15
    It is more difficult to join the EU than BRICS. Türkiye has been trying to join this union for decades. And it’s all in vain. It’s always easier to promise than to keep. A country at war will not be accepted into this union. And when peace comes... So, by that time either the donkey will die, or the EU will tell you to live long.
    1. 0
      27 June 2024 23: 40
      Quote from: unc-2
      Türkiye has been trying to join this union for decades.

      So why is Turkey there, it is already in NATO, and the EU is only a temporary substitute for NATO, into which all EU countries are sooner or later drawn.
  5. +4
    25 June 2024 19: 32
    and I agree with the first commentator. and so as not to give up the outskirts to the “villain” Putin at any cost and you won’t do anything like that...
    and NATO troops can be safely brought in.
  6. +4
    25 June 2024 19: 41
    In the title of the article does the author imply a question? "Can Russia afford it?" At least that's what I understood. If the state of Ukraine remains on the political map of the world, it will not ask Russia. We are not yet talking about the destruction of the state system of Ukraine, at least this is no longer heard from the mouths of top officials. We are already silent about denazification and demilitarization. There is no need to divide the skin of an unkilled bear; first you need to kill it, at least mortally wound it. We can decide what will happen later.
  7. +7
    25 June 2024 20: 18
    Can Russia allow Ukraine to join a hostile European Union?

    An accurate interpretation is needed here, since the article is about the top leadership of the Russian Federation.
    Can Russia's top leadership allow Ukraine to join a hostile European Union?
    All of Ukraine is historically Russia and only the entire people of Russia can allow it to leave through a referendum. All other actions to “leave” are not legal and not legitimate. Like the state of Ukraine itself, it is not legitimate.
    1. -1
      27 June 2024 23: 42
      Quote: vlad127490
      All of Ukraine is historically Russia and only the entire people of Russia can allow it to leave through a referendum.

      This should have been discussed back in 1991.
  8. +8
    25 June 2024 20: 23
    Hmmm...The Most Special Special Operation in the World can bring many more surprises to the people of Russia...! However, in the title of the article I would ask Not

    can Russia allow Ukraine to leave...

    a - Can Russia Win with such an attitude towards war!? And the fact that this is precisely a War, and not some kind of Special Operation that is vague in essence and unclear in Content, has not yet been fully realized in the political leadership of the country! This can be seen in many ways! In addition, there is an obsessive desire for Negotiations from the series “well, start negotiations with us, at least someone!” And it seems that when such negotiations are proposed, Russia will not only agree, it will run to them! Only a blind person can fail to see such aspiration! Then, another next question is asked - what was all this for? I foresee many disadvantages, but I’ll survive, somehow! I understand that the awareness of the horror of what is happening has not yet begun to reach the bulk of the population! The only trouble is, no matter how late it is, like during the First World War!
    1. 0
      25 June 2024 20: 35
      What nickname are you on VO?
      1. 0
        25 June 2024 20: 58
        You don't need to know this information at all)))))
  9. 0
    25 June 2024 20: 48
    This is how it all started with the desire of the Ukrainian oligarchs to join the EU.
    !0 years of blood and death, and here we go again...
  10. GN
    +8
    25 June 2024 21: 33
    Ukraine is Russia! And period! But under this comprador government, Russia may disappear from the world map! How could 300 billion be placed in enemy banks? Or they cheated again! So much for the cook in power! Now 300 lard of Russian money will be used to make weapons for KILLING Russian people!! How do you like this arrangement! Thanks to the Tsar and his guardsmen! You won't be able to imagine something like this!
  11. +5
    25 June 2024 21: 45
    Ukraine's accession to the EU did not upset Moscow very much. After all, Russia itself successfully traded with EU countries. The problem was different. It was impossible to be in the EU and CU (Customs Union) at the same time. Even Merkel understood this. Therefore, both Putin and Merkel stated that Ukraine must choose one thing.
    The oligarchs of Ukraine were for the EU (selling the Motherland is in their blood). But the Union of Industrialists of Ukraine was categorically against joining the EU. Their production was destroyed.

    And for the purposes of the CBO there was never any mention of the EU.
    1. -1
      26 June 2024 08: 02
      And for the purposes of the CBO there was never any mention of the EU.

      There were no Kherson and Zaporozhye regions

      Ukraine's accession to the EU did not upset Moscow very much. After all, Russia itself successfully traded with EU countries.

      And now he doesn’t trade. Now the EU is a direct enemy of Russia.

      The oligarchs of Ukraine were for the EU (selling the Motherland is in their blood). But the Union of Industrialists of Ukraine was categorically against joining the EU. Their production was destroyed.

      Ukraine must go to Russia. We won’t last long in isolation; we need expansion.
      1. +5
        26 June 2024 09: 29
        Ukraine's annexation to Russia only means expansion. Isolation becomes permanent.
        1. -1
          26 June 2024 09: 34
          In conditions of permanent isolation, the only way is expansion in the post-Soviet space. USSR-2.0
          1. +4
            26 June 2024 13: 04
            What exactly does the extension do? First you need to decide what is the root of the problem? Lack of territory and resources, or isolation?
            USSR-2.0 is of course good, but I bet even on the ethos forum you will find a lot of opponents.
            1. +1
              26 June 2024 15: 02
              Lack of territory and resources, or isolation?
              USSR-2.0 is of course good, but I bet even on the ethos forum you will find a lot of opponents.

              Isolation for a long time. And to be honest, I don’t care about local opponents and their opinions, since these people don’t decide anything.
            2. 0
              27 June 2024 00: 03
              Before asking the question “What exactly does the extension provide?” you need to read what sustainable independent development of the state is, the necessary criteria and parameters. Then you will understand everything. There are two dozen parameters. Briefly, Russia will be able to become a developed state if its territory consists of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, the entire Caucasus, Kazakhstan, followed by the political system. The Soviet Union met all the parameters of a developed state; it had a great future. What lies ahead for the Russian Federation with such leadership, guess for yourself. The USSR was in History as the first socialist state on Earth, citizens could not appreciate and preserve it, they were not yet ready for life in a socialist society. An example now is the citizens of Central Asia, who do not understand how to live without Bai. Everyone is building China, North Korea, Vietnam, not knowing what will happen, because everything is clear with capitalism, imperialism, with the liberal government and its institutions, but socialism, communism, the people's state causes misunderstanding and irritation. We need to build a Greater Russia.
              1. +1
                27 June 2024 05: 18
                Don't tell me what to read. And what to understand.

                Your very first thesis is given without any justification. Who told you that

                Russia will be able to become a developed state if its territory consists of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, the entire Caucasus, and Kazakhstan

                Why not include in this list Mongolia, Afghanistan and further, right up to the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean? Then we can add Poland and further, right up to the Atlantic? And then build “Greater Russia”. Something vaguely reminds me of “Greater Germany” and the thesis of “living space”.
                When you understand what a stable state means, maybe you’ll stop writing all this nonsense
                1. +3
                  27 June 2024 13: 22
                  Recommending and teaching are different concepts. If you don't want to study, that's your right. The science of state development and the management system is 2500 years old, it is constantly evolving, there are general criteria, and there are private ones, specific for a given time and for an individual state.

                  The state is an organization of public power that acts in relation to the entire population on the territory assigned to it, using the law and a special apparatus of coercion.

                  General signs of the state:

                  territory;
                  population united into a people;
                  public authority;
                  right;
                  law enforcement agencies;
                  army;
                  taxes;
                  sovereignty.

                  A developed country (or industrialized country, high-income country, more economically developed country (MEDC), developed country) is a sovereign state that has a high quality of life, a developed economy, and an advanced technological infrastructure compared to other less industrialized countries.
                  What exactly is needed for Russia to become a developed, prosperous country, decide for yourself.
                  1. +2
                    27 June 2024 13: 35
                    you must read the

                    This is not a recommendation, but an instruction. So no need to teach me. Based on our previous exchange, for some reason I think I know enough.
                    You wrote a lot of smart words from different sources. But they never answered where in your constructions it is written about the expansion of territory as a necessary condition for the sustainable development of the state. And to create a developed state, the Russian Federation must be included in its composition... You have a large list there.

                    So you have a huge gap in knowledge about nation-building. You, my friend, need to study. This is a HIGH recommendation, if anything...
                    1. +2
                      27 June 2024 14: 02
                      There is no need to use the word “picking”; you don’t want to humiliate your interlocutor. Regarding “studies”, thank you, my whole life, if you count my school years, is connected with this word, in order to teach, to create something, you have to study a lot, a lot every day. You are right about gaps, the more you know, the more gaps you have - these are not my words. Regarding the territory of Ukraine, I wrote earlier. Sign, territory.
                      There is such a parameter “Territory of Comfortable Living”, and so in the Russian Federation only 16% is comfortable for living (most of the territory of the Russian Federation is permafrost, swamps, taiga, mountains, hills, cold zone), in Ukraine 82%, in Belarus 83% (estimated data). Based on this parameter alone, it is necessary to return the republics to the Fatherland. There will be territories, there will be people.
                      In the future, cooling in Europe and Russia is predicted, it will be similar to the Little Ice Age. Everyone and everything will move to the South.
                      There are other development parameters, but this is a different topic.
                      1. 0
                        27 June 2024 20: 24
                        "Picking" is not an insult.

                        in an allegorical sense it is playfully ironic, but non-sarcastic, communication between interlocutors who respect each other’s opinions and do not allow themselves to be rude and angrily ridicule their opponent.

                        The territory of comfortable living has nothing to do with the sustainability and development of the state. This is an advantage or disadvantage of a given territory.

                        Based on this parameter alone, it is necessary to return the republics to the Fatherland

                        Are you proposing to seize territories? I'm telling you, it smells like Lebensraum.

                        What about the return, for example, of Ukraine with its people imbued with Russophobia? Or Central Asia. Will you build mosques throughout Russia?
                      2. +2
                        27 June 2024 21: 57
                        The term "lebensraum" cannot be used to refer to post-Soviet territory.
                        If you have used it, then justify it and show it to everyone, maybe others will appreciate it. Someday you will still have to give information on the events of 1991-1993. legal answer, but everything is sad there. The Germans were also hateful towards the USSR. In 1945, all their hatred disappeared into bile; they are still sick of the war with the USSR. You criticize, all suggestions are bad, but you don’t have your own or you’re afraid to show them.
                      3. +1
                        28 June 2024 07: 36
                        Why can’t this term be used for the post-Soviet space? You are talking about the annexation of the territory of other independent states to Russia. That is, to expansion OUTSIDE the Russian Federation. And you justify this by the fact that for the development of the Russian state, some territories need to be annexed. Hitler said the same thing. I am precisely against this statement. What exactly should I justify?

                        So it is you who must justify YOUR thesis

                        Russia will be able to become a developed state if its territory consists of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, the entire Caucasus, and Kazakhstan
                      4. +1
                        28 June 2024 12: 16
                        You are talking about the annexation of the territory of other independent states to Russia. That is, to expansion OUTSIDE the Russian Federation. And you justify this by the fact that for the development of the Russian state, some territories need to be annexed.
                        My difference in views with you is that you recognize the coup d'etat in the Soviet Union and its dismemberment as legitimate and legal. In my opinion, this is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations. All states formed in the post-Soviet space are not legitimate, not legal.
                      5. +2
                        28 June 2024 20: 57
                        You forgot to put a quote in your first paragraph. It's not me who says this, but you.

                        So, what is next? Will you accept the Law that all these countries are illegitimate and they will immediately dissolve their parliaments and government bodies and join the Russian Federation in orderly ranks?

                        I do not recognize or legitimize anything. This is again your speculation. I didn't say a word about it. We are talking about how you are going to annex these states to Russia? Will you write a complaint to Sportloto or will you send in troops?

                        I thought that only Zelensky was on coke.
                2. -3
                  27 June 2024 20: 38
                  You wrote it correctly! The citizen is raving about the great war. I also included the Baltic there.
                  1. +2
                    27 June 2024 22: 08
                    I would like to ask you, what Great War are you writing about and with whom??? Did you recognize the coup d'etat in the Soviet Union as legitimate and legal??? Even liberal President V. Putin called the collapse of the Soviet Union a geopolitical catastrophe. You are an educated person. Maybe it's time to draw conclusions. History cannot be changed.
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    2. 0
      27 June 2024 23: 37
      Quote: Bakht
      And for the purposes of the CBO there was never any mention of the EU.

      This is the problem, without achieving this goal we will definitely get a hostile Ukraine that will always threaten us.
      1. +1
        28 June 2024 07: 52
        There is no need to confuse the EU and NATO. The EU is an economic organization, a break in relations with which Russia will, of course, survive. But not without difficulties. And Russia itself was not against trade with the EU. But on a parity basis.

        You need to start with an egg. The whole problem was in the association with the EU. Back in 2013, few people read this document. At that time I argued a lot with the Ukrainians (more precisely, with the Jews from Kyiv). Neither of them read this document. I downloaded it and, I won’t say that I studied it carefully, but I read the main points. There are over 100 pages of fine print. It was precisely because it was impossible to maintain ties with the EU and the Customs Union at the same time that Yanukovych slowed down the signing of European integration. The main points that stopped him were the introduction of customs duties on the vehicle, the severance of economic relations with the CIS countries, the introduction of European certification for Ukrainian industry (there was even a clause on the certification of railway rails and sleepers) and the introduction of European prices for housing and communal services. So the increase in tariffs for housing and communal services is not the machinations of Russia, but a requirement of the European Union.

        The main reason for the start of the Northern Military District was the military development of the territory of Ukraine against the Russian Federation. Even the murders of Russian citizens on the territory of Donbass did not affect the beginning of the SVO. 8 years from 2014 to 2022 will not allow you to lie. So Ukraine’s integration into the EU was not the reason for the outbreak of hostilities.

        And the fact that Ukraine would always threaten Russia is no secret. In the same way, the Baltic states, Poland, Finland and other NATO countries will always threaten Russia. But this is not the reason for the start of hostilities against these countries. The only threat is the immediate proximity to the Russian borders. That is, Estonia and Finland must be put under economic pressure without any pity.
  12. +1
    26 June 2024 08: 09
    Putin called the collapse of the USSR a geopolitical catastrophe -

    25 million ethnic Russians ended up abroad... The trouble is simple, there’s no other way to say it

    And the latest “peace proposals from Russia” do not prevent Ukraine from joining the EU. Why doesn’t the president correct the problem of fragmentation of the people started by Gorbachev-Yeltsin? Isn't this a continuation of that national betrayal of our people?
    1. +3
      27 June 2024 00: 55
      Non-Russian Ukrainians decided to make a coup, and those who did not agree to submit were called pro-Russian Ukrainians and began to be kicked out. The situation is improving. Zelensky has already sent his parents to Israel. smile
    2. +1
      30 June 2024 00: 00
      Isn't this a continuation of that national betrayal of our people?

      ..no, it’s not, especially considering that a close look clearly shows that offers have been made that cannot be refused. :)
  13. +2
    26 June 2024 09: 23
    Yes, even now, but without Kyiv, Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy, Chernigov and maybe I forgot something else. In short, let them go with whatever they came with...
    1. -1
      27 June 2024 10: 32
      In the third year of the war, it’s time to see the light))
      1. -1
        27 June 2024 20: 42
        He has no desire to see clearly! The plate is worn.
  14. -4
    27 June 2024 10: 31
    Moscow has neither the right nor the ability to prohibit anyone from joining the EU, the EU decision on Ukraine’s membership has already been made, the question of accession is now at the stage of when.
    1. +4
      27 June 2024 13: 39
      I agree with the lack of “opportunities to prohibit,” but I disagree with “no rights.” Rights do not arise out of nowhere; they are given, acquired - bought, conquered, passed on by inheritance or historically. Where did Ukraine get its rights? For Russia, the state of Ukraine is not legitimate. The Treaty “On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine” dated May 31, 1997 ceased to be in effect on April 1, 2019 due to its denunciation by Ukraine. Termination of this Treaty releases the Russian Federation from any obligation towards Ukraine. What rights of Ukraine can we talk about?
      1. -4
        27 June 2024 20: 44
        Digging into historical perspectives, we will reach Adam and the Old Testament.
        International law.
        1. +4
          27 June 2024 22: 19
          Write down what needs to be done. International law is the right of the strong over the weak. Earlier I wrote that all wars in the post-Soviet space will end when the entire territory of the former Soviet Union becomes Greater Russia. With regard to Ukraine, we now need a Law that will say that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, is an integral part of Russia. It's my personal opinion. There is no need to criticize me. Offer yours.
        2. 0
          1 July 2024 21: 15
          "Digging" - with a soft sign. But there is NO more international law!
    2. +2
      27 June 2024 23: 29
      Quote: Vdmx
      Moscow has neither the right nor the ability to prohibit anyone from joining the EU

      There are rights and opportunities, the only thing that is missing is political will.
  15. +4
    27 June 2024 16: 51
    I am sure that after the negotiations and the stop of the Northern Military District in Ukraine, Russophobia will be even stronger, the exaltation of the leadership of Zelensky, Bandera, the fight against Russia and the heroes of this struggle, starting from the Maidan. NATO will register in Ukraine, and our Russian leadership will only throw up its hands and condemn until it arrives in the Kremlin.
    1. +1
      27 June 2024 23: 26
      Quote: staer-62
      and our Russian leadership will only throw up its hands and condemn until it arrives in the Kremlin.

      It has already arrived.
    2. 0
      1 July 2024 21: 11
      It's already arrived! Nevermind...
  16. +1
    27 June 2024 23: 25
    Can Russia allow Ukraine to join a hostile European Union?

    Unfortunately, our leadership often states that it is not against Ukraine’s membership in the EU, and this clearly contradicts the goal of Ukraine’s non-bloc status.
  17. +1
    28 June 2024 16: 21
    The author should have been careful with historical dates. The signing of the European Association was planned for November 2013, not 2014. Finland withdrew from the war against the USSR and committed to clearing its territory of the Germans back in September 1944. At the same time, they began military operations against them, handed over positions in the Baltic to us to control supplies , released prisoners of war, etc. In March 1945, a formality was carried out. History is an exact science; one must be careful and responsible with its facts.
    1. +1
      1 July 2024 21: 13
      And where are those beautiful Finns now?
  18. +5
    28 June 2024 23: 41
    Not objecting to crests' membership in the EU is a sign of weakness. The EU is currently only a political branch of NATO. “Ukraine” should not exist at all; it is a perversion to consider the indigenous Russian lands as something else. We walked for 30 years, jumped around, and that’s enough.
    1. -2
      29 June 2024 18: 23
      Your activities after the word - enough?
      You criticize - offer.
  19. +1
    1 July 2024 21: 10
    The time of war has come. It is necessary to increase the army and especially the navy, and continue to modernize weapons. A world war is coming, this is already clear to everyone. You need to meet her at the peak of her power. The West will not leave us behind. They don’t have the resources that Russia has in abundance. This is the only reason why they have been coming to us for a thousand years.
  20. +1
    1 July 2024 21: 16
    But he underestimated how high the expectations of ordinary Ukrainians turned out to be, who had been told for a year how they would “get into trouble”

    In the same way, we, dear scattered people (EBN), underestimate the desire of our bourgeoisie to return the lost paradise.
  21. 0
    1 July 2024 21: 27
    Maybe there's something I don't understand. There is a war of destruction going on, either you or you. At the same time, our leadership is constantly vocal about negotiations. I can’t understand why Stalin didn’t talk about negotiations? Yes, because first you need to win. Chat later.
  22. 0
    2 July 2024 14: 24
    The structure of power in Russia is such that nothing surprises you anymore. You just wait for those in power to pull out another trick, one that will either stand or fall. So you don’t respect yourself to believe in the good intentions of the Kremlin people.