Aeroflot abandoned passenger Superjets and Tu-214 aircraft

7 2024 June 84 101 43

The Russian airline Aeroflot announced its refusal to purchase SJ 100 and Tu-214 passenger aircraft. The carrier announced plans to receive 339 aircraft, while stating the need to supply only MC-21 generation aircraft.

The general director of the company, Sergei Aleksandrovsky, explained this step by shifting the term of the “right” contracts. Aeroflot will be supplied with aircraft in basic and short versions (MS-21-300 and MS-21-200, respectively).

It is important to note that the MC-21, in terms of its technical characteristics, is closest to the foreign Boeing and Airbus airliners used. Western sanctions have raised the question of the further operation of foreign aircraft, and a possible solution lies in the purchase of aircraft from leasing into full ownership of the Russian side. The transport department promised to allocate an additional 295 billion rubles for these purposes.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Industry and Trade and Rostec are forced to admit the fact of postponing the supply of passenger aircraft SJ 100, MS-21, Tu-214 and Il-114-300. Among the reasons cited is the shortage of domestic analogues designed to replace foreign parts as part of import substitution. At the same time, the head of Rostec, Sergei Chemezov, during SPIEF, confirmed plans to produce more than 500 airliners by the end of 2030.

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Avtandil

+14

7 June 2024 18: 34

What we can't do, we'll buy

Is this what the “reformers” preached in the 90s? It turned out that politics is more important than economics and trade. The USSR did not depend on anyone, because it could do everything ITSELF.
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2. Kentttt
  
  -4
  
  9 June 2024 01: 32
  
  And where ??? This USSR, and where is what he did himself?
  He rested with God...
  1. Lives71
    
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    10 June 2024 06: 09
    
    The USSR has died, but you still live on its ruins!
Avtandil

+21

7 June 2024 18: 41

So the SJ 100 and Tu-214 are now in the museum? Will the billions spent on them simply be written off? Yeahhhh.... Our Russian "managers" are the coolest! Pride is bursting!
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2. Piramidon
  
  +4
  
  8 June 2024 17: 29
  
  Quote: Avtandil
  So the SJ 100 and Tu-214 are now in the museum?
  
  Only Aeroflot refused. In addition to Aeroflot, there are other airlines.
3. Kentttt
  
  0
  
  9 June 2024 01: 34
  
  Where and where...and so yes! Bursting..
  Well, I should shove it...there’s plenty of space in the museum.
4. mvg
  
  0
  
  9 July 2024 00: 31
  
  The TU-214 aircraft is 35 years old, it flies on not the most economical PS-90A, and the SSJ is originally “non-Russian”, there is only a cabin from the Russian Federation. Initially, almost 80% is imported, there is no main engine for it. This series of PD-8/14/35 has already blown everyone's minds. And it will NEVER be certified (while CBO+10 years are in progress)
prior

+1

7 June 2024 19: 24

This is how “Papa Carlo” turned out to be “Pinocchio”.
Here you have both a “field of miracles” and a “land of fools” in one Aeroflot.
And someone said “let’s fly”......
I live not far from Sheremetyevo. I recently saw a plane in the sky. I was surprised......
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2. trampoline instructor
  
  +2
  
  8 June 2024 14: 30
  
  I live not far from Sheremetyevo. I recently saw a plane in the sky. I was surprised......
  
  What are you saying? I go out on the balcony in the evening to smoke a little, and there they are, with their "headlights" on, flying and flying (the falcons). Probably, they are taking thousands of your "blond and wide-eyed" countrymen to Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan.
Alexey Lan

+10

7 June 2024 20: 39

Nevertheless, we cannot give up our aircraft, even for the reason that this industry is somewhat similar in parts and instruments to military aviation. Not to mention the fact that many passenger airliners can be adapted for military needs.
1. Kentttt
  
  0
  
  9 June 2024 01: 39
  
  Pearl! You can't refuse!
  By the age of 30, 500 pieces will be made! (They promised a thousand)!.
  Well, maybe until the age of 50 it’s not 500, but less...
  They will not refuse...out of principle.
Sergey Latyshev

+12

7 June 2024 21: 38

There is nothing to be surprised about. After all, for example, the main lobbyist for Boeing (the one who allocated money for purchases, instead of Ilov, Tu, TU and others), is still sitting in the Kremlin and is widely known...
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2. vi-13bk.ru
  
  +3
  
  8 June 2024 17: 21
  
  But now he has become the MOST ardent PATRIOT!!
zloybond

+8

7 June 2024 21: 48

Until 2030, many of them will be retired and presenting something to a pensioner will no longer be easy; they will say, contact those who are in charge of the process at the workplace - everything is planned successfully.
1. Kentttt
  
  0
  
  9 June 2024 01: 40
  
  Not successfully, but well planned.
skeptic

+8

7 June 2024 22: 22

At the same time, the head of Rostec, Sergei Chemezov, during SPIEF, confirmed plans to produce more than 500 aircraft by the end of 2030.

This is from the category (and there, either the padishah dies or an ass).
1. trampoline instructor
  
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  8 June 2024 15: 03
  
  Perhaps so.
  But in 2018 there was an accident in the Sharik, when the passenger compartment of the Superjet burned down along with the people, the middle of the cabin (passengers) were poisoned by combustion products, the rest, having lost their minds, ran out with their luggage with crazy eyes onto the concrete. The Super Duper Jet has only 2 exits, so fly it yourself.
  1. vbgfv
    
    -1
    
    12 July 2024 06: 43
    
    there, one unscrupulous steward opened the back doors where there was a fire. I got burned and people suffocated from the smoke!!!
2. vi-13bk.ru
  
  +1
  
  8 June 2024 17: 24
  
  Have they already lowered the bar? And the talk was about a thousand planes.
  1. 362
    
    0
    
    9 June 2024 23: 33
    
    Exactly, the “guarantor” in the heat of the election sabbath promised 1000. However, then he was carried away like Ostap Ibragimych in the chess club...
3. Kentttt
  
  0
  
  9 June 2024 01: 41
  
  Or the deadlines will be pushed back.
vlad127490

+9

7 June 2024 22: 38

Is Aeroflot a private or state company? How many state shares? How many billions of taxpayers' money went to support Aeroflot? If private owners have the majority of shares there, then it is necessary to deprive it of state support. We have a market. Filling with Russian planes is a state program, if Aeroflot does not fulfill it, then Aeroflot must be nationalized. Aeroflot is a brand of the Russian state, not a private company.
1. GR777
  
  +1
  
  8 June 2024 08: 37
  
  I agree 100%. Also, the navigation fee for the flights of foreign companies’ aircraft over Russian territory is received by Aeroflot, not the state. It is amazing.
2. vi-13bk.ru
  
  0
  
  10 June 2024 15: 00
  
  Today we’ll hit the mark and tomorrow we’ll deprive them of support.
Kapany3

+5

8 June 2024 06: 26

Quote: Alexey Lan
Nevertheless, we cannot give up our aircraft, even for the reason that this industry is somewhat similar in parts and instruments to military aviation. Not to mention the fact that many passenger airliners can be adapted for military needs.

Exactly, we cannot refuse, if only because this industry stimulates the technical development of related industries, and there are a lot of them.
Rust1981

+1

8 June 2024 08: 32

Well, you can ignore the frequency of news about problems with planes. And then the flight was delayed due to a breakdown, or something else. The fleet is aging, and we won’t see any service from the manufacturer. Everyone remembers what happened to the President of Iran.
GR777

+6

8 June 2024 08: 33

If Medvedev, as president, had not disrupted the deal to supply several hundred TU-214s to Iran, then now everything would be fine with us.
YuriUs

+5

8 June 2024 10: 08

Reading such news is only ruining your health! Everything has been clear and understandable for a long time! Two sayings on this topic:

The fish rots from the head

The king is good - the boyars are bad!

The Russian people have long assessed such actions by those in power!
kriten

+2

8 June 2024 12: 25

Import substitution in this area of transport today can be characterized in one word: completely settled down. Moreover, a huge amount of investment was probably stolen.
1. Kentttt
  
  0
  
  9 June 2024 01: 43
  
  Grandma lost to children?
trampoline instructor

0

8 June 2024 14: 18

Aeroflot abandoned passenger Superjets and Tu-214 aircraft

It's clear that the Superjet will never fly to Vietnam, Mongolia, Venezuela or Cuba, and Russia has no other friends abroad.
Pichalka.
1. Kentttt
  
  0
  
  9 June 2024 01: 44
  
  Critical remark?
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AC130 Gunship

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8 June 2024 21: 10

It is not clear where the Tu214 and Il114 promised by Rostec are? In which, as Rostec said earlier, there are no imported components. And Il14 - they promised to produce it already from 2015. So, where are they???
AC130 Gunship

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8 June 2024 21: 11

Quote: trampoline instructor
Aeroflot abandoned passenger Superjets and Tu-214 aircraft

It's clear that the Superjet will never fly to Vietnam, Mongolia, Venezuela or Cuba, and Russia has no other friends abroad.
Pichalka.

MS21 will not reach Cuba either. Moreover, 30-40 percent of the way
Sergei Kokorin

+1

8 June 2024 22: 31

The deal is that they are holding out until the sanctions are lifted so that, as before, they can sit on Western technology and receive kickbacks. It is clear that in the foreseeable future there will be no serial MC-21. Manturov also benefits, since this refusal justifies spending on the MS-21, although there is no plane...
Kentttt

0

9 June 2024 01: 31

At the same time, the head of Rostec, Sergei Chemezov, during SPIEF, confirmed plans to produce more than 500 aircraft by the end of 2030.

Well, they’ll postpone it until 50!
Big deal. By 50, 500 airliners! It sounds.
1. Perun61
  
  +1
  
  9 June 2024 09: 09
  
  By 50, 500 airliners!
  
  Quite the opposite: by 500 there will be 50 aircraft.
Wooh

-1

10 June 2024 08: 58

Among the reasons cited is the shortage of domestic analogues designed to replace foreign parts as part of import substitution.

The most logical step would be to temporarily locate TU-214 production in China. And purchase all the aircraft produced there, at the same time carry out modernization and prepare for their release in Russia. There is no point in throwing rotten tomatoes at our industry. Times and leaders were different in the 90s. And in the USA, things are not so great with Boeing.
We must remember the experience of South Korea. They didn’t throw their first cars (buckets of bolts) into the trash, but improved them.
1. vlad127490
  
  0
  
  10 June 2024 22: 05
  
  The most logical step would be to temporarily locate TU-214 production in China.
  And they forgot to ask the PRC. Why will they develop the Russian Federation? The PRC has its own narrow-body aircraft, if the Russian Federation needs it, then order Chinese planes, but the PRC will not sell it, due to sanctions. Russian industry needs to be developed. I wrote it a long time ago.
  There are strategic and tactical goals and objectives. Most discuss tactical objectives. The release of IL-96 is a strategic goal of the Russian Federation and it is not correct to discuss how much kerosene it will consume. Let the Russian government pay for kerosene. If you are chasing savings for the sake of the collapse of the development of your aviation, then take a horse, it eats hay and does not need kerosene. If we approach the state regulations, then we need to produce 2024 four-engine IL-200s by 96. There is everything for the production of IL-96. All aircraft will be transferred to a state company. Let the design bureau develop a new aircraft with new engines from scratch. The same can be said about the TU-204/214.
AC130 Gunship

0

10 June 2024 22: 30

Interesting news. Especially against the backdrop of other news that the “new and import-substituted” SJ made its first flight today. But for some reason, again with French engines...
AC130 Gunship

0

10 June 2024 22: 35

Quote: vlad127490
The most logical step would be to temporarily locate TU-214 production in China.
And they forgot to ask the PRC. Why will they develop the Russian Federation? The PRC has its own narrow-body aircraft, if the Russian Federation needs it, then order Chinese planes, but the PRC will not sell it, due to sanctions. Russian industry needs to be developed. I wrote it a long time ago.
There are strategic and tactical goals and objectives. Most discuss tactical objectives. The release of IL-96 is a strategic goal of the Russian Federation and it is not correct to discuss how much kerosene it will consume. Let the Russian government pay for kerosene. If you are chasing savings for the sake of the collapse of the development of your aviation, then take a horse, it eats hay and does not need kerosene. If we approach the state regulations, then we need to produce 2024 four-engine IL-200s by 96. There is everything for the production of IL-96. All aircraft will be transferred to a state company. Let the design bureau develop a new aircraft with new engines from scratch. The same can be said about the TU-204/214.

Are you laughing or was it just a rough weekend?
What the hell are 200 Il96s if today they produce 1 unit every 1.5 years?
And where can you fly them, 200 of them? Even during the heyday of air travel in the USSR, its “big brothers” Il86 (of which it is a modification) were produced only a little over 100 units.
Il96 today is not needed by anyone except the Special Squad "at all". Well, maybe they’ll take another 3-5 pieces to transport boxes
1. vlad127490
  
  +1
  
  11 June 2024 15: 09
  
  About 200 pieces, this was written in 2009, at that time Boeing and Airbus ruled the roost, 14 years passed, but it only got worse, even then it was clear that the Russian aviation industry was heading into the abyss. The time will soon come when Boeing and Airbus will stand on the ground in the Russian Federation. What are you going to fly on, if you don’t need the Il-96, name the type of Russian aircraft.
anclevalico

0

13 June 2024 09: 03

The bear is not there yet, but its skin is already being divided.