Will war with NATO begin after Russian strikes on Poland or Romania?

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The situation on the Ukrainian fronts requires the transfer of militarytechnical support for Kyiv from the NATO bloc to a fundamentally new level. To stabilize the situation in the near and medium term, it may be necessary to actively use long-range air-launched weapons, as well as the direct deployment of foreign military contingents.

So, what can the notorious F-16 fighters, as well as the French legionnaires and other “soldiers of fortune” who have joined them, give the Ukrainian Armed Forces and how can Russia respond to this challenge?



La Grande Armée


Recently, the Russian Ministry of Defense has significantly increased the activity and power of its strikes against critical infrastructure on Nezalezhnaya, using combined missile and drone strikes. And there is practically nothing to oppose Zelensky’s regime to.

Low-cost Geraniums fly ahead of cruise and ballistic missiles, clearing the way for them, forcing enemy air defenses to activate and expending expensive anti-aircraft missiles. Once these drones received jet engines, it was no longer possible for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to intercept them using twin machine guns mounted on pickup trucks. At the same time, Russian air strikes are now aimed not at substations, but directly at generating facilities.

It is not difficult to guess that the main goal of the official entry of foreign troops is not a direct clash with the Russian Armed Forces, but to take control of the Ukrainian-Belarusian border in order to free up the rear units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and send them to the front line in order to ensure a numerical superiority over the Russian army, as well as the creation of a The Right Bank and, above all, the Odessa no-fly zone. Under the NATO air defense/missile defense umbrella, the territory of Western Ukraine will be able to house defense factories promised to the Zelensky regime for assembling armored vehicles and ammunition from imported components and materials.

Do French or other foreign troops have the right to enter Ukraine?

Yes, if there is an invitation from official Kyiv. Moreover, since 2015, at the legislative level, the introduction of foreign “peacekeeping” contingents through NATO or the EU has been allowed there. Will a war begin between Russia and the North Atlantic Alliance if the Russian Armed Forces and the Russian Aerospace Forces strike the French and their henchmen?

No, if at that time they are on the territory of Ukraine, and not in any of the NATO member countries. Let us remember that this block is defensive. Another thing is that it is possible war directly with France, also a nuclear power. But for some reason no one is afraid of this here.

What about the case when the territory of the countries that are members of the alliance will be directly used for attacks on the Russian Federation?

Russia's war with NATO?


The Ukrainian Armed Forces need F-16 fighters for two main tasks: to shoot down Russian Su-34s, the effectiveness of which has recently increased dramatically due to the use of gliding bombs of an increasingly powerful caliber, and also for attacks on our deep rear areas with air-launched cruise missiles.

This is the most interesting thing, since servicing the F-16 requires appropriate infrastructure, which does not exist in Ukraine, and it would become a priority target for the Russian Ministry of Defense there. There are suggestions that American-made fighters will be able to take off from airfields in Poland and Romania. The latter even decided to turn its air base into the largest NATO air base in the Old World.

On this occasion, President Putin made the following statement:

If they deliver the F-16, they are talking about it, like they are training pilots, I think you understand this better than anyone else, it will not change the situation on the battlefield. And we will destroy their planes just as we destroy their tanks, armored vehicles and other equipment today, including multiple launch rocket systems. Of course, if they are used from airfields of third countries, they become a legitimate target for us, no matter where they are.

That is, it is assumed that Polish and Romanian military airfields could become targets for Russian missile and drone strikes if Ukrainian F-16s take off from them. Does their application automatically mean the start of a direct war between Russia and the NATO bloc, which everyone clearly really wants to avoid?

To answer this most important question, one should turn to the text of that very Article 5 of the Charter of the NATO bloc, which says literally this:

The Contracting Parties agree that an armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered an attack on them as a whole and therefore agree that in the event of such an armed attack, each them in exercise of the right to individual or collective self-defense, recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will help To the Contracting Party undergoing, or to the Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by immediately taking such individual or joint action as deemed necessary, including the use of armed force, with the aim of restoring and subsequently maintaining the security of the North Atlantic region.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall be immediately reported to the Security Council. Such measures will cease when the Security Council will take actionnecessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

“Will provide assistance”, “action that is deemed necessary”, “including the use of force”, etc. Obviously, these extremely vague formulations were carefully selected by intelligent international lawyers in order to free their hands as much as possible politicians in their subsequent interpretation.

So will war start automatically after missile and drone attacks on Polish or Romanian airfields?

Is not a fact. If the Russian army at that time is strong enough to reach the Polish border and beyond, and the Kremlin’s position is firm and adamant, then the NATO allies may well limit themselves to handing over the notorious first aid kits to the Poles and Romanians and calling for peace negotiations. But other options are also possible.
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  1. +10
    29 March 2024 19: 48
    The longer we fight with the Ukrainians, the more NATO wants to fight with us. A two-year war on equal terms is an obvious indicator for them of the weakness of the Russian Federation. Russian nuclear weapons, this is on the now common border with NATO from Murmansk to Kaliningrad?
    1. +1
      30 March 2024 20: 38
      They took a stuffed NATO out of the freezer and carried out rehabilitation and an infusion of money? Military factories in the United States and the European Union came out of mothballing and began recruiting old-timers who once worked for them, and young people.
      Engineers, technicians, physicists, and chemists began to bustle around the bureau.
  2. +7
    29 March 2024 19: 56
    You can guess for a long time and (or) persistently: guess, calculate, think, write, scream because:
    WILL IT START OR NOT START...

    In any case, you should prepare for the worst case scenario...
    1. +1
      30 March 2024 20: 39
      God saves man, who save himself!
  3. 0
    29 March 2024 20: 02
    Capitalism has a big appetite. But due to old age, he suffers from various diseases. Including indigestion. All European countries are ready to fight. Without calculating all the moments of the war. Nothing lasts longer than a fleeting war. Which countries have enough capital resources and reserves to fight for many years war? As Comrade Stalin said, “A correctly formulated task solves half the problem.” And who would be interested in posing such a task?
  4. +2
    29 March 2024 20: 28
    In the event of ionizing gamma radiation, it is recommended to take 100-150 g of vodka. Helps reduce radiation exposure to the body. It is also advisable to have a 3-5 day supply of water and food.
  5. 0
    30 March 2024 00: 46
    “Will provide assistance”, “action that is deemed necessary”, “including the use of force”, etc. It is obvious that these extremely vague formulations were carefully selected by intelligent international lawyers in order to give politicians a maximum free hand in their subsequent interpretation.

    The article has something for everyone to think about (if it concerns him personally and his loved ones) and make some deeply personal decisions.
    But as it happens, I have a special blackboard in the garage for such special words and expressions as from smart Western international lawyers. There I write down special words with chalk from Putin the lawyer, when I need to quickly analyze the situation and get the overall picture and understand whether these words contain some kind of insurance for maneuvering in the future when reality changes. It’s as if you lived in an apartment in Belgorod and realized earlier that it was time to take your family to a quiet village or farm with a small rickety house and a bunker at the bottom. By the way, in Israel, almost all real estate has a shelter.
    1. +1
      30 March 2024 23: 01
      shelter is good. Does everyone also have a supply of food, water and energy for six months in the shelter?
  6. +1
    30 March 2024 07: 44
    After Russian strikes on Poland or Romania, there will be no Poland and Romania.
    If NATO gets involved, there will be no NATO.
    1. +4
      30 March 2024 20: 48
      Strait between Canada and Mexico???
      Well, well... he's getting rich in thoughts!
      There will be no Romania and Poland??? I hope you have gone through NVP and damaging factors and should understand the extent of the damage?
      Moreover, the stronger the damage, the stronger the response.
      1. +1
        30 March 2024 23: 06
        you haven’t understood the Russian soul... we don’t care about the answer, we’re in heaven. But half of the Russians will survive, the habitat of the Russians is as large as possible, the areas are gigantic. and the taiga is impassable. And Europe will die. The population density is too high and the natives are too gentle and accustomed to the infrastructure. In short, there will be hell... And the survivors will envy the dead
      2. -1
        31 March 2024 09: 34
        Stop vibrating Let the Poles and Romanians vibrate and think about the damaging factors.
        Americans also know everything about damaging factors. What do they care about some Poles and especially Romanians.
    2. +2
      April 4 2024 14: 28
      You could use your lips and drink honey, but that obviously won’t happen. We only know how to talk, since Perestroika, which is proven by the numerous crossed out red lines over the past 2 years! But NATO is the USA. Do you believe that we are crashing across the USA?!
  7. +4
    30 March 2024 09: 10
    The war with NATO is already underway. NATO is simply trying to see if it can defeat Russia.
    1. +5
      30 March 2024 09: 35
      And you don’t need to look closely, it’s clear what it can do. Two years of war between the second and twenty-second armies showed this. The question is the price of such a victory, whether they are ready to pay it or not. Not ready yet.
    2. +1
      30 March 2024 20: 49
      Will NATO be able to defeat?
      Children's question!
      Mutual nuclear destruction.
  8. +4
    30 March 2024 14: 15
    Wrong question. It should be like this: Will there still be Russian strikes on Poland or Romania? Or this: Are the “red lines” endless?
    Considering the unshakable “Leopoldism”, I think that the answers are quite predictable.
  9. +2
    30 March 2024 14: 26
    The situation on the Ukrainian fronts requires the transfer of military-technical support to Kyiv from the NATO bloc to a fundamentally new level

    What is the situation on the Ukrainian fronts? Well, tell us about Rabotino, about the Orekhovskoe direction, what is the situation there.
  10. +1
    30 March 2024 14: 53
    Polish and Romanian military airfields could become targets for Russian missile and drone strikes if Ukrainian F-16s take off from them

    But why are we talking about airfields? No one will touch them under any circumstances from our side. Putin meant precisely the technology:

    And we will destroy their planes just as we destroy their tanks, armored vehicles and other equipment today.

    He didn't say a word about airfields.
    1. 0
      30 March 2024 20: 51
      But why are we talking about airfields? No one will touch them under any circumstances from our side. Putin meant precisely the equipment: “And we will destroy their planes in the same way as we destroy their tanks, armored vehicles and other equipment today.” He didn't say a word about airfields.

      Yes ! That's exactly what he said.
  11. 0
    30 March 2024 20: 33
    Is not a fact. If the Russian army at that time is strong enough to reach the Polish border and beyond, and the Kremlin’s position is firm and adamant, then the NATO allies may well limit themselves to handing over the notorious first aid kits to the Poles and Romanians and calling for peace negotiations. But other options are also possible.

    Extremely incomprehensible wording - other options!??? We are in Heaven, and they will just die...?
  12. +3
    31 March 2024 09: 14
    is there life on Mars, is there life on Mars...

    when the cat has nothing to do, he washes himself something...

    There is no point in pounding water when it is already clear that there will be no attacks on the airfields of “respected Western partners”...

    The bear has already written off Vinnitsa and Zhitomir to them, and then there are some blows...
    1. -4
      April 1 2024 17: 13
      But here it’s not a fact.....Imagine an airplane (with weapons) that took off somewhere in Romania or Poland, and is heading straight towards either the LBS or towards the borders of the Russian Federation......Him, Naturally, they will identify it, find out where it took off from, what it was loaded with.... They will shoot it down.... And at the same airfield a couple more are preparing to take off...... Well, and.....?! Rust’s example won’t work, because our “strapsmen” remember a not-so-long-ago history......and how it ended for the Defense Ministry, the General Staff, etc....
  13. -1
    31 March 2024 21: 49
    Will war with NATO begin after Russian strikes on Poland or Romania?

    The name is not correct. What kind of strikes, nuclear or machine gun?
    Will not start.
    No one would think of attacking a nuclear power.
    The proxy war is going on in Ukraine because the Russian Federation has not declared a target. The territory of Ukraine is now a draw, as they say, a gray zone. There may be troops of any country on this territory. If Russia declares that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, is an integral part of Russia, then the war will end tomorrow.
  14. +1
    April 2 2024 08: 16
    Of course, I am by no means an expert, but what kind of infrastructure is needed? For the F16, you don’t even need a separate car to start it, it starts from the starter. I think they’ll teach you how to hang weapons on the forelock. They will also figure out how to refuel.
    Only for repairs and maintenance will they fly to NATO countries.
  15. +1
    April 2 2024 08: 24
    Quote: Personal opinion
    The longer we fight with the Ukrainians,

    The fact is that the Ukrainian army ended in the summer-autumn of 2022, leaving naked mobs caught on the streets, which are fully supported by NATO, from salaries to weapons. Without Western intervention, everything would have ended in 2022.
    1. 0
      April 4 2024 14: 36
      That’s what Putin, Shoigu and Gerasimov hoped for, that Khokhland would surrender like Crimea in 14, but what changes now that Bandera’s army ended in 22?
      Are we waving at the Poles at the border?! Kamila Valieva was given back the gold medal and the charges and disqualification were dropped and they apologized? Sanctions have been lifted from us, the Russians are respected and 300 billion in foreign currency have been returned?
  16. +2
    April 2 2024 11: 35
    Quote: Foe Pshekov
    you haven’t understood the Russian soul... we don’t care about the answer, we’re in heaven. But half of the Russians will survive, the habitat of the Russians is as large as possible, the areas are gigantic. and the taiga is impassable. And Europe will die. The population density is too high and the natives are too gentle and accustomed to the infrastructure. In short, there will be hell... And the survivors will envy the dead

    The ruggedness of the mountains and seas of Europe is such that even three hundred meters away the consequences will often be minimal! Learn NVP and initial courses.
  17. +3
    April 2 2024 11: 40
    Quote: vlad127490
    Will war with NATO begin after Russian strikes on Poland or Romania?

    The name is not correct. What kind of strikes, nuclear or machine gun?
    Will not start.
    No one would think of attacking a nuclear power.
    The proxy war is going on in Ukraine because the Russian Federation has not declared a target. The territory of Ukraine is now a draw, as they say, a gray zone. There may be troops of any country on this territory. If Russia declares that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, is an integral part of Russia, then the war will end tomorrow.

    Blessed is he who believes in fatal moments. 5 regions have already been announced and what???
    1. 0
      April 2 2024 12: 35
      Thank you, I hope you have faith too. When the authorities doubt, are afraid to take responsibility, we must always ask the people. What does he want? Example. Venezuela held a referendum on the disputed territory with Guyana. The decision of the Venezuelan people to “assert the inalienable rights” of the Venezuelan people to the Essequibo region of the State of Guyana. How do you feel about holding a Referendum in the Russian Federation on annexing the territory of all of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, to the Russian Federation, restoring the territorial integrity of Russia.
  18. +1
    April 2 2024 16: 18
    Will war break out with NATO after Russian strikes on Poland or Romania?

    I personally think differently, is it possible for Russia to strike Poland or Romania? After what time will such attacks be possible? What else should Poland and Romania do for Russia to strike at these countries? In the Government of the Russian Federation, responsible persons are still thinking about what weapons to fight, how long the war can last, how much to mobilize in the Armed Forces, and a bunch of other organizational issues. Even without having all the information, you come to the conclusion that there will be no strikes, at least for now, I think for now we can expect only bitterness in the Northern Military District in Ukraine.
    1. 0
      April 2 2024 16: 30
      vlad 127490! Based on the results of the 1991 referendum, it is more logical to pose the question “Do you recognize as legitimate the distortion of the will of the people to preserve the USSR, expressed at the All-Union referendum in Ukraine in 1991?” By the way, the second referendum on independence was held in violation of the then current law. But all this will be just hot air, only the army is capable of changing the existing situation, and referendums will come later.
  19. +1
    April 2 2024 17: 36
    Quote: Foe Pshekov
    you haven’t understood the Russian soul... we don't care about the answer, we're in heaven. But half of the Russians will survive, the habitat of the Russians is as large as possible, the areas are gigantic. and the taiga is impassable. And Europe will die. The population density is too high and the natives are too gentle and accustomed to the infrastructure. In short, there will be hell... And the survivors will envy the dead

    We know, we know such “brave” ones (on the Internet)... winked
  20. 0
    April 2 2024 17: 41
    This will require the immediate annihilation of the UK population into nuclear dust. This country is the sickest of all European countries. It will not be difficult for her to launch a nuclear strike on Kaliningrad under a false flag. Therefore, we must destroy them in the first minutes.
  21. 0
    April 2 2024 18: 43
    It is unlikely! The ambitions of these states are higher than ever, but this is not enough; the common sense of the Americans will not allow them to “butt heads” with Russia with nuclear weapons, especially for the sake of Poland and Romania. They won’t risk their safety for the sake of small things, because it’s written in their charter that “promising to marry does not mean getting married”!
  22. +2
    April 2 2024 21: 53
    Quote: vlad127490
    Thank you, I hope you have faith too. When the authorities doubt, are afraid to take responsibility, we must always ask the people. What does he want? Example. Venezuela held a referendum on the disputed territory with Guyana. The decision of the Venezuelan people to “assert the inalienable rights” of the Venezuelan people to the Essequibo region of the State of Guyana. How do you feel about holding a Referendum in the Russian Federation on annexing the territory of all of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, to the Russian Federation, restoring the territorial integrity of Russia.

    Get in over your head...then ask something!???
    It was necessary to hold all these referendums, and goals, and general criteria, and draw dangers before the North Military District!
    Oh, now...this will only make you angry
    1. 0
      April 3 2024 12: 43
      It's easy to get into shit, but it's hard to get out. You are right in many respects, but now there is a question. What to do? The fact that now in the Northern Military District we have a military-political impasse is even being broadcast by the “irons”. Freezing the war in Ukraine in the form of an agreement, a sanitary buffer zone, means postponing the war to the future; our children and grandchildren will die for these mistakes. Such a blasphemous decision goes beyond common understanding, but we love our children and grandchildren. Giving Crimea and the LDPR back is a betrayal, why then the “Crimean Spring” and the Northern Military District, for which the Russians gave their lives and health. I had the idea and embodiment on paper that a Law on Ukraine was needed in mid-March 2022. A law in which it will be written that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia. Two years have passed, but no legal documents on SVO have appeared in Ukraine. Because the interests of third parties (oligarchs, capitalists, hucksters) are higher than the state ones. Hence the conclusion. The authorities do not want to resolve this issue. My proposal is to submit the issue with Ukraine to a national referendum of Russia and issue a law based on the results of the referendum. This is what I asked you about earlier.
  23. 0
    April 2 2024 21: 56
    Quote: Kuramori Reika
    This will require the immediate annihilation of the UK population into nuclear dust. This country is the sickest of all European countries. It will not be difficult for her to launch a nuclear strike on Kaliningrad under a false flag. Therefore, we must destroy them in the first minutes.

    Destroyer into nuclear dust! How many books have you read about parasitic elements?
  24. +2
    April 2 2024 22: 01
    Quote: Mikhail Dadeko
    It is unlikely! The ambitions of these states are higher than ever, but this is not enough; the common sense of the Americans will not allow them to “butt heads” with Russia with nuclear weapons, especially for the sake of Poland and Romania. They won’t risk their safety for the sake of small things, because it’s written in their charter that “promising to marry does not mean getting married”!

    High representatives said the same thing at the Security Council about the Northern Military District in Ukraine! Europe won't lift a finger, and the United States won't give a penny.
    For the sake of Poland, two world wars began, separate Tehran negotiations. Even if the USA doesn’t start butting heads, then Britain and France will definitely... and then Canada, the USA, Japan, etc..
  25. -1
    April 4 2024 14: 21
    Then there will be a war with NATO. Since the Russian army cannot now reach the Polish border and no, and never did, the Kremlin has a firm position! Only in ripping off and destroying the Russian people in Russia do they have a firm and stable position, and replacing us with obedient and stupid monkeys.
  26. 0
    April 5 2024 00: 16
    Sarà utile prima della Polonia e Romania abbattere tutti i sistemi satellitari e affini della Nato!