Exercise Steadfast Defender 2024 could be used to send NATO troops into Ukraine

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The military exercises of the NATO bloc called Steadfast Defender 2024, which began in the Old World, the largest since the end of the Cold War, we prefer to consider at best “saber rattling”, at worst – a rehearsal for the North Atlantic Alliance’s preparation for a hypothetically possible, but extremely unlikely war with Russia. Are there other interpretations of these events?

"Steady Defender"


The NATO exercise Steadfast Defender 2024 will take place from January 22 to May 31 this year and will be the largest since 1988. Let us recall that at that time the North Atlantic Alliance involved a group of 125 thousand people in maneuvers called REFORGER (Return of Forces to Germany, or “Return of Forces to Germany”).



Over the next four months, more than 90 thousand NATO troops from 31 countries and Sweden, which itself is about to become a member, will learn to fight against some “approximately equal in strength” enemy. This will involve a group of more than fifty warships, over 80 fighters, UAVs and helicopters, and more than 1100 different units of NATO armored vehicles. It was announced that the military exercises will be held in two stages.

The first, sea stage, called LIVEX, which will last from February 1 to March 15, will practice landing in the most difficult conditions and deploying forces in continental Europe. In fact, the operational transfer of formations and units of the US Armed Forces and Marine Corps across the ocean to Europe will be tested. At the second, main stage, the NATO bloc will demonstrate to a potential enemy its ability to operate jointly on land, sea, in the air, cyberspace and in space:

Conduct and support complex multi-domain operations for several months over thousands of kilometers - from the Far North to Central and Eastern Europe - and in any conditions.

A certain consensus opinion of domestic and foreign military analysts is the conclusion that, within the framework of Steadfast Defender, the NATO bloc is working out scenarios of war with Russia in the Baltic, around the Kaliningrad region and the Suwalki corridor. It should be noted that within the framework of the “Stalwart Defender” maneuvers of the German Bundeswehr Quadriga-2024 and the Dragon-24 exercises of the Polish Army will also take place.

The aim of the German exercise Quadriga 2024 is to develop skills for the rapid transfer of armed forces to Norway, Lithuania, Romania or Hungary, as well as to gain experience in deploying troops over a long period of time. More than 12 thousand Bundeswehr troops will be involved in them.

No less interesting to us are the Polish maneuvers, in which Warsaw will involve more than 15 thousand of its soldiers, 10 thousand American troops from the USArmy Garrison Poland group, USAG-P, as well as several thousand German ones. In them the Polish Army will field over 3500 units of various military equipment, including about 100 units of heavy armored vehicles, including American and French-made tanks. As part of the Dragon-24 military exercise, the Poles will practice interaction with NATO high-readiness forces (VJTF), which also includes Turkish military contingents.

Why are we watching with such alarm these maneuvers in Europe, of which there have been a great many in recent years?

Strategic Deployment


With the development of space, air and electronic reconnaissance means, it has become impossible to secretly concentrate and deploy significant military contingents, which may indicate preparation for offensive actions. Both the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are currently facing this problem. In a period of threat, when hostilities have not yet begun, the easiest way to transfer industry to a military footing, prepare infrastructure, mobilize and deploy armed forces is in the format of large-scale military exercises.

For example, the start of the Northern Military District in Ukraine on February 24, 2022 was preceded by joint military exercises of the Russian Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus “Union Resolve,” which took place from February 10 to February 20, 2022. In parallel with this, a detachment of large landing ships (LHDS) of the Russian Navy made an inter-naval transition from the Baltic to the Black Sea, arriving in Sevastopol. Just a few days after the completion of the exercises, from the territory of the allied Belarus, including Russian troops and units of the National Guard, went to the north of Ukraine, and the BDK went to sea, clearly with the goal of a landing operation near Odessa, which, for unknown reasons, was not carried out in the first couple of days of the Northern Military District .

Thus, certain preparatory actions took place, but, alas, the enemy was categorically underestimated, and his own capabilities were overestimated. The most interesting thing is that practically the same thing had already happened almost exactly a year before. In March 2021, in response to the multinational NATO exercise Sea Shield 2021, the Russian Ministry of Defense put out to sea all Varshavyanka-class diesel-electric submarines and sent four large landing ships from the DKBF from the Baltic to the Black Sea. In September 2021, the strategic military exercises “Zapad-2021” took place on the territory of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, in which about 200 thousand military personnel, up to 760 pieces of equipment and 15 ships took part.

I remember that then all this was positioned as a transparent hint to Kyiv so that it would not decide to move on to the practical part of the previously carried out preparations for the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the DPR and LPR. It seemed to work, and a certain temporary reprieve was won. It is possible that this is precisely why in February 2022 there were some illusions at the very top that it would be enough to raise one eyebrow menacingly again.

But let's get back to our sheep. The Steadfast Defender 2024 exercise, which is taking place right now, is of deep concern because it has become the backdrop for statements from London about the need to send to help Kyiv expeditionary force of NATO countries. Its tasks may include occupying the entire Right Bank with Odessa and Kyiv, creating a no-fly zone over them and forming a buffer zone along the borders of Russia and Belarus. The released forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will then be sent from the rear to the front line in counterattack-2.

Thus, right now a 90-strong force is being created and deployed, which at any time can be used for the specified purposes. This is an absolutely workable scenario, the implementation of which by the enemy will extremely worsen the position of the Russian Armed Forces on the front line and will make the goals and objectives of the Northern Military District for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, declared on February 24, 2022, practically unrealizable. We need to decide something.
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  1. -3
    5 February 2024 12: 00
    Now let's think about it. NATO sends in troops. In fact, this is an occupation. On a long-term basis. And then Trump comes to power. What's next? Those. the entire occupation plan must be implemented before the elections in the United States. Without the Americans, the occupation of the entire right-bank Ukraine will collapse like a house of cards. Further. Russia is launching massive missile strikes against the occupying forces. As we know, Western air defense is full of holes. Thousands of occupation troops are dying. What's next? Or, for example, after the deployment of troops, Russia strikes with tactical nuclear weapons at logistics centers in Poland? What's next? And introduce wasted space. Over the entire territory of Ukraine? Or only over occupied areas? And then hundreds of suicide bombers and rockets arrive? Those. Show the whole world that NATO's no-fly zone is complete bullshit? There are a million questions. NATO's only working option is a quick lightning war. The last 50 years have shown that the West does not know how to win long-term wars. He lost them all. And the occupation will only happen when they finally agree on the division of Ukraine. This way, the West will not completely ruin the image of its army. Those. the entry of occupation troops will show how Ukraine will be divided and the end of the Northern Military District. In this case, Ukraine itself will no longer exist. Then the next phase of the war with the West will begin. I hope not World War 3.
    1. +5
      5 February 2024 13: 09
      NATO's only working option is a quick lightning war. The last 50 years have shown that the West does not know how to win long-term wars. He lost them all. And the occupation will only happen when they finally agree on the division of Ukraine. This way, the West will not completely ruin the image of its army. Those. the entry of occupation troops will show how Ukraine will be divided and the end of the Northern Military District. In this case, Ukraine itself will no longer exist. Then the next phase of the war with the West will begin. I hope not World War 3.

      Oh, your HP and multi-move moves... Life doesn’t teach you anything... request
    2. RUR
      -4
      5 February 2024 13: 40
      Without the Americans, the occupation of the entire right-bank Ukraine will collapse like a house of cards.

      expedition - British/European, not American

      As we know, Western air defense is leaky

      - you know a lot... and we know that they still shoot down daggers...

      show the whole world that NATO's no-fly zone is complete bullshit

      these stupid peasant fantasies are bullshit and will collapse like a house of cards.
      1. -3
        5 February 2024 15: 04
        Let it collapse. Because occupation is, first of all, a profit for the occupying country from the occupation zone. Let's take the example of Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan. There, the occupation zones ALL have strategic and material value, from where resources are pumped out (in Afghanistan, these are drugs, the second most profitable business in the world after weapons, and the income from which is taken into account in the GDP of Western and American countries, as soon as synthetics became more profitable in terms of production and logistics, abandoned Afghanistan). There are three such districts in Western Ukraine. These are the Carpathians, Odessa region and Krivoy Rog. There was also Donbass, but Russia took it. Everything else during the occupation will not bring profit. Those. Western corporations will blame the occupation of these lands on the budgets of Western Europe without America. How long will such an occupation last given the recession and inflation in the West? This is money for logistics, salaries for the natives and maintenance of infrastructure. Approximately 100 billion dollars in losses per year. No profit. The West started all wars to make a profit. When costs exceeded profits, the West stupidly abandoned its puppets. And the same will happen with Ukraine. The Ukrainians will run out, the West will occupy or will fight for profitable zones. If necessary, they will bring people from Africa and Asia instead of Ukrainians. And Ukrainians are being disposed of, which is what is happening now. The Ukrainians themselves have been achieving this for 30 years with their hatred of Russia. And they get what they wanted, a war with Russia and the disposal of Ukraine.
        1. RUR
          +4
          5 February 2024 17: 00
          Let it collapse. Because occupation is primarily a profit for the occupying country from the occupation zone

          - THE ANSWER IS INCORRECT, since the price of the West’s loss in Ukraine is the loss of internal unity, influence, prestige on a global scale, and not only in Ukraine, therefore profit in Ukraine is a secondary or tertiary occupation....
          1. +3
            5 February 2024 17: 05
            Quote: RUR
            the cost of the West's loss in Ukraine

            Nevertheless, the West is generally satisfied with the ceasefire on LBS, judging by the tone of publications on NI and NYT.
            1. RUR
              +3
              5 February 2024 18: 54
              Of course, after all, most of Ukraine will remain in the Western sphere of influence...
          2. 0
            5 February 2024 17: 13
            That's also not true. Corporations today are in no way tied to the West. And conflicts in the West are of little interest to them. You can even make huge profits from this. The story with gas and Covid clearly showed that global companies are not interested in the opinion of Western countries when there is a conversation about colossal profits. In the long run it is not yet clear what is best for the West. A conflict with Russia, when China makes a profit, or a conflict with China, when Russia is neutral. When they calculate and balance the debits with the credits, then we will immediately know. But starting a full-fledged war with Russia, while China is counting profits from this? This is definitely not beneficial for either the West or global corporations. Now there is a global redistribution of the markets of global corporations and Chinese ones. Russia has its own undeveloped territory. And there are only about a dozen global Russian corporations. And Russia clearly stated about the protection of its territory, including nuclear weapons. Therefore, it is likely that at the moment it is more profitable for world corporations to switch to the redistribution of Africa, which is now observed, and to the redistribution of South America, than to suffer losses from the war with Russia for its resources.
            1. RUR
              +3
              5 February 2024 18: 00
              The story with gas and Covid clearly showed that global companies are not interested in the opinion of Western countries when there is a conversation about colossal profits.

              - THE ANSWER IS INCORRECT, since the globalists are only part of the West, but they themselves, as they saw the threat of China, began to withdraw technology firms from China and make it difficult for China to access advanced technologies - they didn’t care about its fabulous market... Globalists, like you say, companies are named not by their international origin, but by their global influence... the internationals themselves know very well that they are Western. West against the Rest - opposing oneself to the rest of the world, striving for world domination - all the main forces of the West are involved in this
      2. +1
        6 February 2024 00: 59
        - you know a lot... and we know that they still shoot down daggers...

        facts to the studio, where, when and with what????
        1. RUR
          0
          6 February 2024 11: 54
          facts to the studio, where, when and why are they not confused???? In Ukraine, by the way, the Patriot was not the most modern...
    3. +2
      5 February 2024 15: 48
      Therefore nothing will happen. The entire article by the analyst is made up for the sake of hype.
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    5. 0
      6 February 2024 06: 59
      Taki you??? Or are you pretending??? And a massive nuclear strike with tactical nuclear weapons with at least a thousand Tomahawk missiles will be delivered to Russia... And what next?
    6. -1
      6 February 2024 12: 18
      We can do without NATO; PUTIN must announce that all nuclear weapons are on full combat readiness. I think that's enough.
  2. -3
    5 February 2024 12: 07
    But let's get back to our sheep. The Steadfast Defender 2024 exercises, which are being held right now, are causing deep concern because they have become the backdrop for statements from London about the need to send an expeditionary force from NATO countries to help Kyiv. Its tasks may include occupying the entire Right Bank with Odessa and Kyiv, creating a no-fly zone over them and forming a buffer zone along the borders of Russia and Belarus. The released forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will then be sent from the rear to the front line in counterattack-2.

    Thus, NATO will cancel out all the attempts of the multi-movers to prevent the deployment of alliance troops on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. For how will a strike against them during the SVO be motivated? No one doubts that the candidate will not dare to strike at them and, in connection with this, the finale of the drama called SVO is being watched.
    1. RUR
      -2
      5 February 2024 13: 17
      NATO will cancel out all the attempts of the multi-movers to prevent the deployment of alliance troops on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR.

      Let's assume that the Northern Military District did not even start - Ukraine, as an independent state, turned 100% to the West (historically a fact), then, in 10-15 or 20 years, Ukraine would become part of the West, including the military aspect / cooperation, there would be bases on the LEFT BANK, now, most likely, will appear ONLY ON THE RIGHT BANK, i.e. after all, if you look at it objectively, the Russian Federation has a certain winning result - the Russian Federation has also created a buffer..
      1. -2
        5 February 2024 14: 43
        ... Ukraine, as an independent state, turned 100% to the West (historically a fact), then, in 10-15 or 20 years, Ukraine would become part of the West, including the military aspect/cooperation,...

        So what are we talking about? Ukraine, Russia - 30 years ago they turned their backs to the west and their fronts to the forest. The only question is why get each other wet? What would please the West even more?
        1. RUR
          0
          5 February 2024 15: 03
          Ukraine, Russia - 30 years ago they turned their backs to the west,

          The leadership of Ukraine did not have a conflict of interests with the West, unlike the Russian Federation, if you haven’t noticed...
          1. -2
            5 February 2024 15: 22
            I didn’t notice, what is their conflict of interest? Someone in the Russian Federation for 30 years wants to make life happy for its citizens? And they, ungrateful ones, don’t appreciate it and tick away in all directions.
            1. RUR
              0
              5 February 2024 15: 52
              At least in the field of armaments and defense, and then, the United States considers itself a world hegemon, the place of the Russian Federation in this situation in their Empire is modest... Ukraine was happy with everything...
  3. +1
    5 February 2024 12: 08
    Now let's think about it. NATO sends in troops. In fact, this is an occupation.

    Ua has long passed a law allowing the entry of foreign troops.

    And then Trump comes to power.

    Or doesn't come

    Without the Americans, the occupation of the entire right-bank Ukraine will collapse like a house of cards.

    Why on earth? HPP again?

    Russia is launching massive missile strikes against the occupying forces.

    Yes, you sho?

    As we know, Western air defense is full of holes.

    Ours is full of holes too. And then the response in Russia will fly even stronger.

    Or, for example, after the deployment of troops, Russia strikes with tactical nuclear weapons at logistics centers in Poland? What's next?

    But what about “if only there was no nuclear war”?

    And introduce wasted space. Over the entire territory of Ukraine? Or only over occupied areas?

    Useless laughing Not over the occupied, but over the NATO allies at the invitation of Kyiv

    And then hundreds of suicide bombers and rockets arrive? Those. Show the whole world that NATO's useless zone is complete bullshit? There are a million questions.

    One false premise leads to a bunch of false conclusions.
    1. 0
      5 February 2024 12: 30
      Is it elementary to ask questions to the author? Don't you find it? And why did you decide that these are not significant issues? As we know in the West, wars are started by corporations. The governments there are slave puppets. As soon as the goals of corporations are achieved, the allocation of wars goes down to the budgets of the aggressor countries. After this, the goals of these wars are completely lost. Or do you believe that they are being conducted for the sake of establishing democracy? They clearly monitor profits. And that is why long-term wars are all lost. Those. Roughly speaking, it is enough for Putin and Co. to come to an agreement with BlackRock and others like them, and in fact the war is over. And Western puppets will be written off through elections. In fact, this is an imperialist war. Which is led by oligarchs and oligarchic clans on both sides. Everything else is a screen. And they are already literally writing about this, including in the Western press.
      1. +3
        5 February 2024 12: 39
        Is it elementary to ask questions to the author? Don't you find it?

        Why address them to the author? Is he a face? decision makers? Are the questions addressed to?

        And why did you decide that these are not significant issues?

        From what does it follow that I decided so? Why attribute to me something that I did not write?

        Those. Roughly speaking, it is enough for Putin and Co. to come to an agreement with BlackRock and others like them, and in fact the war is over. And Western puppets will be written off through elections.

        It doesn't take much to end the war of the mind. Send Medinsky and Abramovich back to Istanbul and sign some bullshit.
        You try to win it by achieving the stated goals of the SVO, so that the blood is not shed in vain.
        1. +3
          5 February 2024 12: 53
          Goals will not be achieved. Fascism is the ultimate form of capitalism. This is how profit is extracted from the population as efficiently as possible. And Nazism is a form of fascism. That is, one of the stated goals in the SVO is initially not feasible. Since it implies the destruction of capitalism on planet Earth as such. The USSR seems to have destroyed Nazism? Where did he come from again? Or do you propose to weed the Ukraine bed of weeds when everything behind the fence is covered in weeds? This is what people call monkey labor. Because from behind the fence the weed seeds will spread again. As long as capitalism is behind the fence and we have it, the weeds will continue to grow. And therefore, the SVO, with the stated goal, will last until the end of time
          1. +2
            5 February 2024 12: 58
            Goals will not be achieved. Fascism is the ultimate form of capitalism. This is how profit is extracted from the population as efficiently as possible. And Nazism is a form of fascism. That is, one of the stated goals in the SVO is initially not feasible.

            Great conclusion! good

            The USSR seems to have destroyed Nazism? Where did he come from again?

            Maybe because the USA and Canada sheltered a bunch of Nazi survivors?
            Maybe because some people destroyed the USSR from within, setting a course for the restoration of capitalism there after Stalin’s death? And this same restorer named Khrushchev sent the Banderaites home early and rehabilitated them?

            Since it implies the destruction of capitalism on planet Earth as such.

            Do I understand correctly the next logical step, which is readiness to cooperate with capitalist-fascist-Nazi regimes? wink

            Or do you propose to weed the Ukraine bed of weeds when everything behind the fence is covered in weeds?

            This seems to have been suggested by the great geopolitical strategist. I agree with him on this.
            Don't you agree? Do you suggest leaving it as is?

            And therefore, the SVO, with the stated goal, will last until the end of time

            The SVO would not have been needed at all if someone had done their job better. responsibilities.
            And it could end in victory in the summer-spring of 2022.
            1. 0
              5 February 2024 13: 06
              But didn’t the USSR do this, collaborating with the USA and Canada, which sheltered the Nazis? Isn’t this what Russia is doing now, collaborating with the USA and Canada, financing today’s fascism? Weird question.
              1. 0
                5 February 2024 13: 08
                But didn’t the USSR do this, collaborating with the USA and Canada, which sheltered the Nazis?

                These questions are not for me. smile

                Isn’t this what Russia is doing now, collaborating with the USA and Canada, financing today’s fascism?

                You are so sharp and topical good
                1. +2
                  5 February 2024 13: 16
                  Man is a herd organism. And any herd has its own power structure, leaders and followers. The one who leads “leans” the follower. It doesn't matter voluntarily or forcefully. If you disagree, you are excluded from the herd. And such loners do not live long and do not influence the processes in the herd. Those. Initially, there is coercion in society. And if there is coercion, communism, which rejects coercion, is not possible from the very beginning. Capitalism offers and even imposes fascism as a form of power system. It's the same in Russia. As an example, the digital ruble is an effective form of control. China has a new social digital system. Etc. Everything is systematically moving towards fascism. And robotization and AI are all from this system. The person is no longer needed. He becomes an appendage of this system of control and coercion. Only people with unique abilities and skills remain in demand. Everything is heading towards this.
          2. 0
            6 February 2024 06: 40
            Here we are talking about regime change and the imprisonment of essentially odious individuals. And lustrations. This will be denazification. The goals are achievable with due persistence of the military-political leadership
    2. +1
      5 February 2024 15: 51
      Quote: Beydodyr
      One false premise leads to a bunch of false conclusions.

      The whole article is about this. About false promises. No one will enter anything.
      1. 0
        5 February 2024 16: 00
        Counter questions:
        1) are you a military expert or political scientist?
        2) are you ready to personally meet NATO troops if they do come in? Or are you just going to blow bubbles here?
        1. +1
          5 February 2024 16: 07
          I live 20 km from the front line. Is this answer enough for you? :)
          1. +1
            5 February 2024 16: 10
            No, it will not work.
            First of all, the question was not addressed to you. Or starik80 (Dmitro Cherny - is this your alter ego?
            Secondly, place of residence does not mean competence in matters of geopolitics, etc.
            Thirdly, you are clearly not writing from the front line, so the question of a NATO meeting is up in the air.
          2. +1
            5 February 2024 16: 10
            My profession is process engineer. Those. simple hard worker. I am not working at the moment due to the above. And if you are wondering about NATO members, then I will say that it’s all about the masses of the people. When the USSR collapsed, did everyone embrace capitalism? But the leadership of the USSR was not interested in this at all. Therefore, my opinion is of absolutely no interest to anyone. The people have always been led, whether under capitalism, under feudalism, under socialism, under communism. Whether voluntarily followed or not, this does not change this fact. The leaders decide everything, and the education of the younger generation, patriotism and values ​​in the form of Christianity, liberalism, capitalism, communism, etc., etc. This is all a tool for controlling the people. The more successful the instrument, the more voluntarily and with less resistance the people accept coercion.
            1. -1
              5 February 2024 16: 14
              And if you are wondering about NATO members, then I will say that it’s all about the masses of the people. When the USSR collapsed, did everyone embrace capitalism? But the leadership of the USSR was not interested in this at all.

              I realized that not only Budennovka is hidden at home just in case Yes
              I have no more questions. smile
              1. +4
                5 February 2024 16: 34
                Only those who survive can continue to reproduce and ensure the survival of the species. Read the history of different countries. You'll be surprised. The whole history of our world is the survival of traitors and the death of heroes. What do you think? Each USSR citizen’s passport also had responsibilities for the defense of the state written down, and all men took an oath to serve the Soviet Union. Question: The USSR collapsed, how many people came to their defense? Those. from a legal point of view, all former citizens of the USSR are traitors. :) And nothing, they live in peace. And the stories of heroes teach young people. It's funny, isn't it? ,,PS And before that, former white officers swore an oath to the Soviets. But for the Russian Empire this is betrayal. And there are also examples of the French Revolution, etc., etc.
  4. +2
    5 February 2024 13: 18
    What raises concerns is neither the exercises themselves nor their numbers, but their duration. May 31, when the day is approaching its duration. It is clear that NATO equipment can only work in summer conditions. So they moved their piece to the desired square. Now it's our turn. We can't do without this. I wonder what the move will be. It must be effective, but at the same time not causing disruption to the peaceful state. Everything will be visible in the near future.
    1. +2
      5 February 2024 16: 27
      Quote from: unc-2
      I wonder what the move will be.

      No way. In 1983, they gave an adequate response to such a provocation; our strategists with nuclear warheads and working turbines stood ready.
  5. +2
    5 February 2024 15: 46
    May or may not be used...
    We can bomb in response, we can not bomb...
    Medvedev may write another diatribe in a telegram, or maybe not...

    All this is fortune telling on coffee grounds, or HPP.
    In any case, the elite will go to Dubai, to the islands, to their palaces and bunkers and will not suffer.
  6. 0
    5 February 2024 16: 14
    All actions require legal documents, no matter what, the strong always have all the documents legitimate. With regard to the newly formed countries on the territories of the former Soviet republics, everything is different from the independent ones, for example, Syria, Iraq, Iran... These newly formed countries are not legitimate and belong to gray zones, no one’s, they can be taken by anyone strong. Everything between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is broken. The Treaty “On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine” dated May 31, 1997 ceased to be in effect on April 1, 2019 due to its denunciation by Ukraine. Termination of this Treaty releases the Russian Federation and Ukraine from any obligations in their relations with each other. There is no law on succession in the Russian Federation, there is no law on SVO. There are no legal grounds to demand anything from Ukraine. If I'm wrong, please correct me. The entry of NATO troops into Ukraine cannot be called an occupation, because... this entry will be accompanied in accordance with the document between Kiev and London. I don’t know how the Kremlin will take this.
  7. +3
    5 February 2024 16: 43
    Yesterday in the program “Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov” the presenter (Soloviev) said: I don’t believe in the expeditionary force... And I think that this is an information dump. And this is very strange and interesting, in Syria, under a cunning pretext, almost anything is possible, but here there are so many options, without stopping the strikes further and further into the depths of Russia. In general, based on today's real time, there are a lot of options for developing scenarios. The Russian leadership, somewhere in the past period of time, did not understand the importance and tragedy of the policy of losing face for the state and was unable to give a worthy answer in time. And as a result of such a toothless policy, Churchill’s formula was adopted:

    If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame.

    War and shame are only gaining momentum, and the collective West decides which territories (like in Syria with the oil fields) to occupy without interfering with the continuation of the strange North Military District, showing the lawyer how a bandit (helps to reset the Russian fleet) can, and does, based on his own interests - the interests of destroying Russia.
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  9. 0
    5 February 2024 23: 33
    If the Ukraine want to pull back behind the river and cede the eastern part to Russia, then they can invite anyone they want in. Right now it's a war and any military in the country is a legitimate target.
  10. +1
    6 February 2024 01: 21
    Quote: RUR
    - you know a lot... and we know that they still shoot down daggers...

    well, yes, we remember - jars of cucumbers, let's burn some more laughing
  11. -4
    6 February 2024 01: 25
    Quote: vlad127490
    Deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine

    I think Putin clearly and clearly explained to all those suffering what will happen to those who decide to do this.
    America has no time for these problems now; they won’t take risks. Before the elections, lose a thousand or two American people and their elections will not go according to the can scenario.
  12. -1
    6 February 2024 01: 27
    Quote from: unc-2
    What raises concerns is neither the exercises themselves nor their numbers, but their duration. May 31, when the day is approaching its duration. It is clear that NATO equipment can only work in summer conditions. So they moved their piece to the desired square. Now it's our turn. We can't do without this. I wonder what the move will be. It must be effective, but at the same time not causing disruption to the peaceful state. Everything will be visible in the near future.

    nothing will happen from NATO, they will just rattle weapons. You can’t take Russia into fear, especially now that Russia has gained momentum in the Northern Military District.
  13. 0
    6 February 2024 02: 15
    ...We need to decide something...

    ...Yes, there’s not much to decide. All clear. European and American children have become dangerously obnoxious.
    Fear has been lost to dangerous levels. They stopped fearing and respecting us...

    But the way out (Retaliation!) is simple, it suggests itself...
    It is urgently necessary to conduct parallel to NATO exercises of Our Nuclear Deterrence Forces...
    Well there: raise a flock of “Swans” with a full Nuclear Ammunition for patrolling; Bring our nuclear submarines to the oceans...
    And be sure to carry out a couple of demonstration training missile launches... (But maybe more!)
    And if all this is crowned with a serious underground Nuclear Weapons Test, it will be very, very good...

    That is, frankly, take out - Our Nuclear Club... No, you shouldn’t hit these insolent and presumptuous idiots with it - of course, you shouldn’t, YET...
    BUT WE SHOULD BE GIVEN A SMELL OF IT to our out-of-touch Western American “friends and partners.”
    Bring it to their very snout...
    Thus, point them to their shores, which they are once again frivolously losing...

    (After all, it’s true that NATO-State strategists will feel very uncomfortable, in their headquarters, which are completely vulnerable to our “Daggers”, at the thought that somewhere nearby (relative to the capabilities of our Aerospace Forces - not far) - our “Strategists” are flying "with nuclear weapons and in full combat readiness...
    Somehow, one might say reflexively, their warlike ardor will fade away... And it will fade significantly...

    (Moreover: “Who knows? What is actually on the MIND of these Russian Barbarians!..
    Look, they got into the SVO! AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COME OUT...
    I’ll take it now, this very minute, and they’ll take a sip on our “strategic command post”! And we have such gorgeous mistresses... NO...
    You need to be more careful - slow down the gas, in short...
    Politics is politics, dill is dill, but we are all people... and we want to live, and have gorgeous mistresses... - too!)

    With these exercises, the Russian Federation will CLEARLY make it clear to some that the Northern Military District is, nevertheless, with all its scale..., so-so - its own, and no more... (With all its unpleasant costs...)

    But the war... THIS IS ALREADY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT... THIS IS WAR!..
    With all the REAL..., CATASTROPHIC..., catastrophic for everyone..., - consequences...
    And before it’s too late, “our dear Western partners”..., please try to feel the DIFFERENCE... TRY.

    ...And if on Red Square they also demonstratively hanged a couple of greedy thieves from the fifth column... IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!...))))))))
    (...a joke... Or maybe not a joke!))))))))
    1. +1
      6 February 2024 04: 23
      So they raised a flock of lebels? On whom to let off steam? To the Poles? London and Washington? Well done, what next? And then they will destroy the Uralvagonzavod and Moscow commanders, deputies, presidents will be left without tanks and specialists. And Tula and Izhevsk are unlikely to be able to produce a large amount of equipment... And in the end, the same result as before waving the baton. We don’t have a damn thing, except show-offs and managers with big salaries. And China will look at this and what will it decide? And he decides that it’s time to change the attitude towards crazy people.
      1. -1
        6 February 2024 18: 30
        ...Here you go!.. -
        ...Another one!
        My dear fellow, what are you talking about and what..., in which direction..., and for what reason are you releasing the pairs?!!..

        WHERE IN MY COMMENT there is a call: “Destroy London and Washington”

        ...Are you, my dear, judging others by yourself, accepting your beloved?..

        You, my dear, wipe your eyes, blink your eyes - and, CAREFULLY... and calmly, read the comments, without your “emotions”...
        Including my humble comment...

        ...For the VERY inattentive AGAIN:

        ...T. That is, frankly, take out - Our Nuclear Club... No, you shouldn’t hit these insolent and presumptuous idiots with it - of course, you shouldn’t, YET...
        BUT WE SHOULD BE GIVEN A SMELL OF IT to our out-of-touch Western American “friends and partners.”
        Bring it to their very snout...
        Thus, point them to their shores, which they are once again frivolously losing...

        This is what my comment said...
        Once again:

        ..Thus pointing them to their shores, which they are once again frivolously losing...

        That's all... In the USSR they always did this, in response to the too arrogant and unfriendly steps of the adversaries in the Cold War!..
        There is nothing new or surprising, and, moreover, absolutely nothing reckless here...
        And in this particular case (Which most likely is...) - the “partners” take the Russian Federation weakly...
        That's it.
        And we are quite ready for our corresponding, decisive, DEMONSTRATION (I emphasize, for the inattentive) demonstration measures...
        And if they take place - most likely no "expersion" corps - will spoil the air on Ukrainian territory...

        But if our government, under pressure from the corrupt oligarchic rabble, remains silent once again... then - alas... - nothing good will happen for the Russian Federation, but, ultimately, for the whole World...
        1. 0
          7 February 2024 00: 08
          So you have no specifics, just slogans about nothing. As with most people in power, this is where the result comes from. We won't go far on show-off alone. But there are no concrete results. They took Bakhmut for six months, now Avdeevka. And what about the results? Behind-the-scenes negotiations, with an attempt to intimidate opponents with their arsenal. Cheap move.
  14. -2
    6 February 2024 07: 23
    Again Marzhetsky is downloading cases, oh yes the entertainer, everything is wrong for him.
    When there was a counter-sniff, all you could hear from him was “You too must attack, otherwise we’ll lose everything, I can see better from the sofa!” Now the enemies have stopped attacking the defense on their own, we are advancing, attacks have begun in the spirit of “Chief, everything is lost!”
    Everything will be fine, don’t worry.