Automatic shotgun as a means of personal protection against drones

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Multicopters of all types have long become one of the symbols of the war in Ukraine. Both sides have learned to use initially peaceful civilian drones not only for reconnaissance and target designation, but also directly for carrying out air strikes that cause serious damage to combat technology and manpower. How to deal with this scourge?

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The problem of enemy drones is quite serious and requires a comprehensive solution. A multicopter must first be discovered that at an altitude of 300-500 meters it is quite difficult. Then you need to target it with your own means of destruction and have time to destroy the UAV before it causes damage by targeting enemy artillery or bombing. Particularly dangerous can be posed by FPV drones equipped with some kind of ammunition, rushing towards the target at high speeds while maneuvering.




You can see how this looks in practice in the video. There may not be time to use a special anti-drone gun against such a small-sized high-speed device. The last frames show how fighters sitting on top of the armor are trying to shoot at the drone attacking them. Unsuccessfully.

It should also be taken into account that every military man on the front line will definitely not be given an anti-drone gun, and having an individual means of countering enemy quadcopters capable of hovering over a position and dropping grenades, mines and bombs from above is simply necessary.

In this publication I would like to highlight the possibility of mass equipping our military personnel with automatic shotguns as a “weapon of last chance” against multicopters.

Shotguns


The idea of ​​using shotguns against drones of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is not new and has been expressed at various sites more than once. Logic dictates that a “bird” hanging at a low altitude can be shot down with several shots of shot or buckshot. And this is true, but there are nuances. Firstly, shooting with shot at such air targets will lose its effectiveness if the multicopters simply rise higher, to 300-500 meters. Secondly, just go ahead and hit a 12-gauge “Boar” with single shots at an FPV drone rushing towards you with ammunition suspended on it.

However, these problems are also quite possible to solve. The accuracy of fire required to create an insurmountable obstacle in the path of a fast-moving kamikaze drone can be created by switching shotgun fire to automatic mode.

The American military encountered this problem during the Vietnam War, where in the impenetrable jungle they used smooth-bore pump-action shotguns such as the Winchester Model 1912. Design engineer Maxwell George Atchisson tried to solve it by creating the AA-12 automatic shotgun, the production rights to which were purchased by Military. Police System.


It borrowed the trigger mechanism from the Browning M1918 machine gun, and the forend from the M16A1. Power is supplied from two types of magazines: a five-round box or a twenty-round drum. Recoil is minimal; you can hold the shotgun with one hand while shooting. The density of the fire allows you to literally “saw” entrance doors or jungle thickets. The machine gun is very reliable, capable of firing even after being under water for 15-20 minutes. The disadvantages include a solid weight of 7,3 kg.

Based on Atchisson's ideas, another American designer, John Trevor, created his own version of the Daewoo USAS-12 automatic shotgun. Also known are the Jackhammer and Heckler & Koch HK CAWS (H&K CAWS) automatic shotguns, intended for police and special forces. What do we have in this regard?

And what about us


We have a semi-automatic smooth-bore carbine "Vepr-12", created on the basis of a Kalashnikov light machine gun by craftsmen of the Vyatsko-Polyansky Machine-Building Plant. The ability to fire in automatic mode has been removed from it, but the weapon can be modified if desired. Ammunition capacity is increased by installing a drum-type magazine.

You can see what shooting at an FPV drone flying at high speed with ammunition suspended on it might look like in the video where the TIGRIS XR12 12-gauge automatic shotgun is tested.


Tigris Arms is a line of smoothbore shotguns from the famous Turkish manufacturer Candemir Silah San, developed jointly with domestic specialists based on the Kalashnikov assault rifle. TIGRIS XR12 is called a hybrid of a Kalashnikov assault rifle, an AR-15 system and a Benelli shotgun. With such an automatic shotgun there is a chance to fight off even a maneuverable air target.


Of the ones that have actually been put into production in Russia, there is the ShAK-12 assault rifle complex, created for the needs of special units by order of the FSB Special Purpose Center. An automatic shotgun with a caliber of 12,7 mm and a shell length of 55 mm has great stopping power and high fire density. At the same time, it is low-noise, since it was developed on the basis of the VKS Vykhlop silent sniper rifle. The effective range of use of the ShAK-12 is stated to be 300-350 meters, which allows you to confidently hit low-flying quadcopters.

If the enemy begins to raise his drones higher, then he can be reached with the help of a “flying shotgun”. We will talk in detail about what prospects the installation of Vepr-12 on an unmanned tiltrotor platform opens up. told earlier.


Of course, automatic shotguns will not be a panacea, but equipping frontline fighters with them will increase their ability to fight off FPV drones, shoot down light reconnaissance quadcopters and heavy attack multicopters of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the “Baba Yaga” type. Surely this weapon would find its use as a means of close combat in urban areas when clearing buildings.
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  2. +4
    20 December 2023 12: 32
    A gun with shot for game, up to 100 m. When there is nothing. It is better to shoot down a drone with a drone, far from the LBS.
    1. +1
      20 December 2023 13: 24
      But if you shoot with a trimmed cartridge, the charge begins to spread from 80-100 meters, up to this distance the charge travels in the cut-off cartridge case.
    2. +1
      20 December 2023 22: 29
      It is better to shoot down a drone with a drone.

      And you need to shoot down drones - with a RAM, for this you need to produce a more protected drone (with a protective grille of blades). It is desirable for this drone to patrol above the front line at higher echelons (you can see it better from above) and when it sees an enemy drone it would simply dive at it - breaking its propellers with a blow.
  3. 0
    20 December 2023 12: 50
    I could be wrong, but during WWII the Americans developed anti-aircraft ammunition that was triggered when passing near an air target, which significantly improved the protection of objects from Japanese kamikazes. The Germans failed, resulting in huge losses of industrial enterprises during air raids.
    1. +1
      20 December 2023 21: 35
      Quote from Voo
      During WWII, the Americans developed anti-aircraft ammunition that was triggered when passing near an air target, which significantly improved the protection of objects from Japanese kamikazes.

      Why is it so mysterious and vague? As I understand it, we are just talking about the appearance of non-contact radio fuses among the Americans!
      1. 0
        21 December 2023 08: 31
        Why is it so mysterious and vague? As I understand it, we are just talking about the appearance of non-contact radio fuses among the Americans!

        Sure? Straight radio fuses?
        1. 0
          21 December 2023 08: 34
          I was trying to suggest that the main problem with a shotgun is its ammunition. There are no questions about the shotgun, all that remains is to modify the ammunition, but we need something that has no analogues, so that after the sale there will be enough dough for the rest of our lives, or better yet, two...three.
        2. 0
          21 December 2023 20: 06
          Quote from Voo
          Sure? Straight radio fuses?

          And there were no others!
  4. +7
    20 December 2023 12: 58
    It is quite possible to use fractions against small low-flying quadcopters. But it is not possible to provide a shotgun for each fighter, but it is quite possible to use the developed new VOG ammunition in the form of a shotgun shot with a grenade launcher. If fighters use several shots at once, the ability to destroy the quadcopter increases significantly. The main thing is the presence of equipment designed to warn about the appearance of a UAV (usually by microwave control signals of the UAV), such exist, they should be minimized in weight and dimensions and given to each squad of fighters. Conclusion: Attack and reconnaissance UAVs are becoming a common and effective weapon, and protection must be accordingly.
  5. 0
    20 December 2023 14: 00
    That is, each fighter will have to carry, in addition to standard weapons, a loaded shotgun?
    well, or 1n with a shotgun for 4-5 people, for starters.
    Who knows when a UAV might surface? Near a car, dugout, group, or throw a grenade from above?
    Logical... but somehow strange.
    1. +1
      20 December 2023 15: 03
      To make it easier, make a large-caliber Colt shotgun?
      1. -1
        20 December 2023 22: 13
        All this talk about shotguns as an effective weapon against drones is, in fact, an “Idiot’s Dream”! But if you go crazy, then it’s more radical! Weapons against drones will appear, but they will be different and, alas, expensive! The task of the developers is to try to reduce the cost of anti-drone weapons in order to make such weapons more or less widespread with acceptable effectiveness! What weapons can be suggested offhand?
        1).automatic small-caliber small-caliber (...from 4,3 mm!) weapons with a high rate of fire such as a light or light machine gun with a “homing” sight as an infantry squad weapon! (Such “super sights” are already being developed and, in my opinion ,the first prototypes are already available!)...;
        2).38-40mm laser-guided mini-missiles fired from a grenade launcher (such mini-missiles have already appeared! For example, "Pike'');
        3).Small drones of a simplified “configuration”, which can even be guided via a fiber optic link or a 3-wire microcable from the “Malyutka”!
        As an “interim” (temporary) solution, you can apply:
        1. stock of old MANPADS of the "Strela-2/2M" type with the replacement of thermal seekers with radio control... 2. "Hybrid" quadcopters on the "base" of the "Malyutka" anti-tank gun using wired control...
        3. "Vozrozhdenie" ,,MANPADS,, "Spike"...
  6. +2
    20 December 2023 18: 22
    You can also offer a crossbow-type net launcher or grenades with a net with weights for an assault grenade launcher.
  7. DO
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    20 December 2023 18: 57
    Against drones driven by a propeller (or propellers), in addition to fired shot/buckshot, countermeasures are known in the form of fired nets that entangle the propeller(s) of the drone.
    Where to shoot the nets from?
    As Vladimir Tuzakov suggests above, it is, of course, better for a fighter to shoot with shot of the optimal caliber from the grenade launcher of an assault rifle, because a flying pile of shot has a much higher destruction range than a drop-down reticle.
    But shooting a reticle from a short distance from a drone at a low-speed propeller drone may be more effective than shot. Because the diameter of the opening of the mesh at a short distance can be greater than the spread of the shot (while ensuring increased spread of the shot, the density of the striking elements will drop critically). Of course, only tests can confirm or refute this assumption (it is known that there have already been such tests, and perhaps there will be more).
    1. -1
      21 December 2023 01: 02
      Quote: DO
      shooting a reticle from a short distance from a drone at a low-speed propeller drone may be more effective than shot.

      Recently there was a message about the development and possible adoption by the Russian Armed Forces of a rocket-propelled "under-barrel" grenade... This grenade has a greater "mass" and firing range than the "traditional" VOG-25! You can hide a net in such a grenade!
      1. DO
        0
        21 December 2023 01: 52
        Nikolaevich I (Vladimir),

        You can hide a net in such a grenade!

        The reticle should begin to open immediately after the shot. And when it opens, the mesh, like a parachute, will slow down the metal “bullets” that drag this mesh along with it. And due to the short range of such an anti-drone solution, the operator of an FPV drone caught by the net can detonate a grenade and hit the fighter who fired the net with it. Open the grid with a delay? How does a grenade know that it is approaching the target and it’s time to open the net? For a technologically super-complex grenade with a mesh, which could itself automatically determine the moment of opening the mesh, its development would require an unacceptable amount of time (most importantly, time!), money and intellectual resources, and would have a cost of almost the Lancet.
        Therefore, for FPV drone shooters using an automatic grenade launcher, ammunition with special shot is most likely suitable. In this case, a fighter who shoots accurately and on time has a chance to survive.
        And the grenade with a mesh you mentioned is most likely suitable for firing a mesh from a defender drone, which can fly within a short firing distance of an FPV drone - the enemy’s “flying grenade”.
        In general, of course, either drones or ground/portable/portable shotguns with automatic guidance should destroy or immobilize enemy FPV drones with grenades. It is necessary to use various electronic warfare emitters that “suspend” the FPV drone if it is controllable and does not have an autonomous homing function. And automatic grenade launchers with shot are the last chance of a fighter if he has nowhere or no longer has time to hide from an attacking FPV kamikaze drone.
        1. 0
          22 December 2023 09: 46
          Quote: DO
          How does a grenade know that it is approaching the target and it’s time to open the net?

          But you managed to answer it yourself! If a fighter spots a kamikaze FPV drone from afar, a timed shrapnel grenade might come in handy.
          Alternatively, a fighter may have two ammunition for an automatic grenade launcher - a shrapnel grenade with a self-detonation conditionally for 200 m...

          (I ask the questions myself....I answer them myself?! wink )
          The developed rocket-propelled grenade may turn out to be a very good option for countering drones! 1. It has a larger size and firing range compared to the VOG-25 ... which can allow the use of a timer and a passive radio fuse in the grenade ... 2. The presence of a rocket engine provides an active (straight) inclined trajectory, unlike the “ballistic” VOG -25...3. There are developed optical-electronic sighting systems with a laser rangefinder, a ballistic computer, installed, for example, on the RPG-7 ("infantry" squad weapon), but I think this can be installed on other "infantry" weapons "weapons! 4. The grenade with a mesh is mentioned "in passing", just as an example! It is possible that the best option will be a “fragmentation-beam” (shrapnel) grenade... and not only for shooting at drones!
          1. DO
            0
            22 December 2023 10: 52
            Nikolaevich I (Vladimir), yes, a mesh is not at all the same as a shrapnel grenade. The grenade has a SPHERE of destruction, and the reticle has a CONE of defeat. From here it is clear that in case of non-critical overflight, undershoot, or miss, the sphere will still cover the target. But the cone will reliably cover the target only when the defender drone approaches the target before firing at a close distance, when the apex of the cone of destruction is in the defender drone.
            And further. After sound reasoning, it seems that fighters of varying degrees of preparedness assessing the distance of the notorious 200 m “by eye”, and even in a stressful situation, will most likely lead to a large percentage of misses. And the target does not have to fly at an altitude of exactly 200 meters. Therefore, it is probably most likely that ammunition with a timer automatically programmed before firing should be used classically, as part of a shooting device with a range finder. But for a fighter it is advisable to use simple ammunition that fires shot, as is written in the article under discussion.
            And the choice of a rocket-propelled grenade (powder rocket) or just a grenade (projectile) depends primarily on the height of the target. A rocket-propelled grenade is more expensive and has a worse mass ratio of the warhead and the entire shot.
    2. DO
      +1
      21 December 2023 10: 01
      PS
      Based on a sensible morning reflection on the ideas of commentators and the article itself, the protection of personnel from FPV kamikaze drones should be layered.
      The first line of defense is numerous defensive drones of different heights shooting with a net.
      Second line, objective/focal - ground shooters with automatic targeting:
      - medium-altitude - firing shrapnel grenades with a programmable explosion timer (based on the range finder of the target detection system);
      - low-altitude - shooting large shot;
      - installations are possible that launch relatively cheap powder rockets to higher altitudes.
      The third line, the last one, is shotgun ammunition for the soldiers’ automatic grenade launchers.
      And it’s clear that the defense system must have electronic warfare emitters to “suspend” operator-controlled enemy drones (however, electronic warfare jammers are powerless against autonomous FPV drones).
      Futuristic experiments are also possible, for example with lasers that blind the machine vision of drones.
      1. 0
        24 December 2023 00: 13
        What layered lines of defense on the LBS, what mesh drones (you won’t have time to pick up yours with a mesh before the one that flies up drops ammunition and flies away). You have no idea how a UAV works, that’s why these are ridiculous proposals. The UAV suddenly flies up at speed from any direction, takes seconds to aim, drop ammunition, and simultaneously takes off. Time remains only for a shot during the approach and hovering when detected. With attack UAVs, there is no time at all, just to have time to fire a defensive shot at the approaching UAV. That's why you need a shotgun - a cloud of grapeshot - to hit it right away, because, as a rule, there will be no repetition. Any burst shooting at a small, unstable UAV trajectory, too inappropriate, like burst shooting at a flying sparrow. Your theory is far from practice.
        1. DO
          0
          24 December 2023 16: 40
          Vladimir Tuzakov,

          you won’t have time to pick up yours with the net before the one that flies up drops ammunition and flies away

          Before dropping ammunition or performing a suicide attack, the enemy FPV drone must FLY to the target. The task of the defense line of drone defenders is to prevent the enemy from doing this.
          How? Obviously, some of the defender drones should hang or patrol like a “wall” over the neutral zone, scaring off and destroying enemy FPV drones flying at high altitudes. And for enemy FPV drones trying to "infiltrate" at low altitude, a line of defender drones can lie in ambush in no man's land.
          Dear, how else can drones work against enemy drones? What, let the enemies fly as they please?
          Yes, and why shooting nets? If the drone fires heavy pellets, strong recoil may simply break it; moreover, about half of the shot's momentum will go into recoil, and the kinetic energy of the pellets may be insufficient. But the mesh doesn’t need high kinetics; it needs contact with the screw(s). Here they also suggest attacking the propellers with a ram. But at the same time, you can damage your own drone, and it is easier for an enemy drone to dodge a ram attack than a net shot.

          you need a shotgun cloud to hit immediately, because, as a rule, there will be no repetition

          Yes, this is why we need a second line of defense (automatic shooters) and a third line (manual grenade launchers or shotguns).
          Here we are fiercely proving the same thing to each other :)))

          Any burst shooting at a small, unstable UAV trajectory, too inappropriate, like burst shooting at a flying sparrow. Your theory is far from practice.

          Vladimir, where did you see my proposal to shoot in bursts? You have confused me with someone else (here someone has a proposal to use a Garling machine gun, but this is too expensive a solution in terms of ammunition consumption). “Automatic shooters” automatically aim and fire a shot using buckshot or grapeshot grenades with a programmable explosion delay (a solution that has been used in air defense for a very long time).
          1. 0
            31 December 2023 17: 28
            Replica: Mini drones have a limited flight time (up to an hour), and to maintain round-the-clock duty in the air over hundreds of kilometers along the front and dozens in depth, all the drones on both sides will not be enough. Today the problem is protected from UAVs, so we need to look for solutions. Any layered defense is not realistic today and will remain for the future.
  8. Owl
    0
    20 December 2023 21: 59
    First - immobilize the UAV using an “anti-drone gun”, then “shooting”, whether you want it “point-blank” from a shotgun, or from a machine gun. Hitting a moving and maneuvering target (speed from 40 to 100 km/h) is unlikely.
  9. -1
    20 December 2023 22: 32
    It's difficult, very difficult. And it is necessary for the fighters to have an incredible range of shots from shotguns, so that both by hearing and by smell and by movement, a shot will immediately follow. Vision must be perfect.
    There certainly should be protection against drones, but this option seems to me to be insufficiently effective.
    Regarding drones, it can be noted that they are all controlled via a radio channel, I think, encrypted. And it also seems to me that the range of these channels is not exactly prohibitive. So, by determining the signal of the command giving the order to shoot ammunition, you can stupidly force the drones to drop charges anywhere, and not on the target. The radar detected the takeoff of the drones - a reset signal was sent. In particularly successful cases, the charge will hit the operator himself.
    Or remember the game "Exolon" and develop a backpack rocket launcher that launches homing missiles automatically. And instead of a go-pro, mount a miniature AFAR on the helmet.
  10. 0
    21 December 2023 01: 45
    How does the author imagine this in the field? Automatic shotguns weigh quite a bit, have little ammunition, and the cartridges themselves are very bulky. How many bullets can a person carry? Hardly more than 100 pieces. What if a shooting fight breaks out? Will he have to carry a machine gun with him as well? This may work somewhere in the rear, but on the front line I would try with all my hands and feet to disown the joy of wearing this bandura.

    In my opinion, the best solution would be to develop a special shrapnel grenade for the grenade launcher. Let it be in two versions for 100 and 200 meters with self-detonation. The soldier will not have time for anything more complex than choosing the right color grenade.
    1. DO
      +1
      21 December 2023 03: 03
      In my opinion, the best solution would be to develop a special shrapnel grenade for the grenade launcher. Let it be in two versions for 100 and 200 meters with self-detonation. The soldier will not have time for anything more complex than choosing the right color grenade.

      Yes, if a fighter notices a kamikaze FPV drone from afar, a shrapnel grenade with a timer can come in handy.
      As an option, a fighter may have two ammunition for an automatic grenade launcher - a shrapnel grenade with a self-detonation conditionally at 200 m, and ammunition that simply fires shot. Because if the attacking drone is closer than 200 m, it is unlikely that the fighter will have time to estimate the distance of 100 m and fire in time, to take aim and fire a shot charge at the approaching drone.
      And yet, a shrapnel grenade with a self-detonation timer can be effective when fired from a defender drone if it is equipped with a rangefinder to the target - an enemy drone.
  11. 0
    21 December 2023 07: 03
    RPK-74m with a 3x prismatic and a 75-round drum will solve this problem with drones, I recommend it!
  12. -1
    21 December 2023 09: 51
    Wouldn't it be better to use a shotgun to create a smoke screen in the air?
  13. 0
    21 December 2023 13: 56
    already wrote that in the 79-80s of the last century, during a patent search, I encountered 20 (I think) mm Swedish shells filled with disks, which, after firing the expelling charge, form a cloud - “standing, ascending, descending”, and then conducted a similar us 32 mm.. a whole cloud towards a flying target at a distance starting from the maximum firing range of the gun. thin discs - about 0,5 mm.
    1. 0
      19 January 2024 19: 16
      Have you thought about converting a disposable signal flare into an anti-drone weapon... I would suggest a dozen ideas
  14. +1
    22 December 2023 01: 41
    ...I don’t know, maybe I’ll make a naive proposal... But still!..

    ...Several decades ago))))), I came across interesting materials telling about the experimental development of anti-aircraft shells carried out by British scientists during WWII...
    The idea was very simple...
    The anti-aircraft projectile was loaded not with explosives and shrapnel, but with a coil of very strong wire... After the shot and some time, the wire unwound and, rotating at great speed, caused very serious damage to the enemy aircraft... Moreover, the plane was damaged, or during the passage of the projectile nearby, or when a high-speed wire “fan” was turned on...
    And since the radius of the rotating wire lashes was very significant - within (at least) one or two tens of meters, the probability of hitting the target was very high... The simplicity of the solution was captivating... Moreover, tests of such anti-aircraft power supplies showed good results...

    ...What I mean is that it is cheaper, more effective - to create not just some - too "specially specific" anti-drone weapon, but we should go about ways of creating special anti-drone ammunition that is quite suitable for the standard weapon of an infantryman...
    Let’s say, if the radius of such a “wire cloud” (from an anti-drone power supply based on a 5,45 caliber cartridge) is about half a meter and at a distance of up to 500 m, then with a burst of ten shots, even offhand, with a high degree of probability it will be possible to “bang” or severely damage any light drone...
    ...And you don’t need to carry around some heavy and inconvenient shotguns with you, and even with ammunition for them, it’s enough to have a magazine or a couple with such anti-drone cartridges...
    ...The development of such “wire” power supplies for large-caliber machine guns, and especially for 30mm automatic guns, will make it possible to destroy heavy drones at significantly greater distances...
    ...Of course, some other options are possible... (The option with wire is just a suggestion for reflection on the topic))))))...
    ...But absolutely certain - the solution to the problem of fairly reliable, simple and relatively inexpensive protection against drones by creating special ammunition for standard weapons is perhaps one of the most reliable and reliable...
    1. 0
      29 January 2024 14: 27
      Reminds me of a "pivot-wheel machine". The bullet is rushing with the screw!
  15. +1
    23 December 2023 01: 22
    Our large-caliber machine guns (magazine of 20 rounds) and 12.7 mm machine guns with ammunition for 500 rounds (knapsack on the back) are absolutely a song!
    The Kalash are resting, we need to equip everyone with them!
    But these are all dreams. And such devices are good for special forces and training grounds. Who will then carry your backpack with ammunition, clothes, sleeping bag and food to the front line, when you already have a backpack on your back with 500 rounds of ammunition? If only a self-propelled robot, well, or don’t run anywhere from their trench, strong point!
  16. 0
    29 December 2023 23: 08
    In a quiet environment with a light breeze, the drone can be heard within three seconds of its impact. It's about little squares. What kind of cowboy do you have to be in order to have time to throw up a considerable gun, take the safety off and jerk the bolt. You can, of course, not do this, but walking around with a cartridge in the barrel and a cocked hammer without a safety lever is very scary. Especially when everyone took 100 grams or more for courage.
  17. 0
    31 December 2023 12: 01
    Quote: Hippo 31
    In a quiet environment with a light breeze, the drone can be heard within three seconds of its impact. It's about little squares. What kind of cowboy do you have to be in order to have time to throw up a considerable gun, take the safety off and jerk the bolt. You can, of course, not do this, but walking around with a cartridge in the barrel and a cocked hammer without a safety lever is very scary. Especially when everyone took 100 grams or more for courage.

    If you want to live, you won’t get so upset. hi You can just walk around without ANY chance of surviving.
  18. 0
    4 January 2024 14: 58
    For 30 years, at least under this government, we have been celebrating the communist victory over Nazi Germany, admiring the wonderful fireworks.
    Now let's imagine a volley of such fireworks fired at a drone....
    Leave comments and likes.
  19. +1
    27 January 2024 18: 46
    Marzhetsky, the shotgun fires pellets. Once again I am telling you about this. They shoot down drones.

    The fighters need Saiga-12 and MP-155. With a long barrel.
    1. 0
      29 January 2024 11: 15
      And if they are transferred to belt feeding of ammunition and automatic fire, and even from detonation of ammunition at a distance. This would be a powerful defensive line.
  20. 0
    29 January 2024 14: 50
    All commentators with amazing tenacity bypass the method of combating drones by
    causing radio interference to them. After all, without a communication channel with the operator, any drone is absolutely
    useless. He will be carried away by the wind and, most importantly, he will not know where and at what moment
    he will have to throw off his "bonba". Drones are controlled from a remote control, which the operator
    holds in his hands behind the line of combat contact, which means “at a sufficient distance.” To drop ammunition, the drone must hover above the target at an altitude of 300-500
    meters, which from a radio engineering point of view and “line of sight” means “almost point blank”.
    Any low-power transmitter (power ~ 1 watt) with an anti-aircraft radiation antenna (turn
    wire with a diameter of two palms) will ensure blocking of reception control due to
    overload of the receiving tract. And that's it: the operator can turn off the lights and “drain the water”!
    1. 0
      30 January 2024 05: 01
      Let's approach this issue practically - how long will the equipment batteries last in the trenches? What if it's frosty? Or the expiration date will come to an end at the most inopportune moment. In addition, they are already writing about drones with AI that independently select a target. What to do with them?