“Potemkin Villages”: for some reason the Finns ridiculed the exhibition of Russian achievements at VDNKh


Readers of the Finnish publication Helsingin Sanomat commented on an article about the exhibition-forum “Russia”, which was held earlier at the VDNKh site.


The exhibition was initiated by President Vladimir Putin. Its goal is to increase citizens' pride in their country and its achievements, as well as to fuel the desire to participate in them. The exhibition was popular during its first weekend. The opening took place on Saturday, National Unity Day, when VDNKh, according to the organizers, was visited by a record 190 thousand people

- says an article in a popular Finnish newspaper.

It is worth noting that Helsingin Sanomat has an extremely biased photo selection for the event, which does not contain any images of consumer goods or industrial products, but only slides of costume shows at individual stands, which also forms a corresponding impression on the reader.

Original publication by Esittelyssä Venäjän “uudet alueet”.

All opinions belong solely to the authors indicated and represent their personal position. It is worth noting that here are only the least anti-Russian comments, which can still be called moderate. Those responses that were not included in the selection are much more offensive.

I remember a similar exhibition of achievements during the Soviet Union. At that time, all kinds of samples were exhibited, which, although they were available, were not available to the population. In those years, at the exhibition there was a long conversation between a Soviet citizen and a Finn. Somehow it went wrong that a Soviet person proudly declared that you don’t even have such an exhibition. To which I received an answer from the Finn that there is no need for something like this, because this exhibition is in all our stores every day. Well, now the Putin administration has reinvented this format. The presented objects belong to a new era, but...

– says Taisto Pihlajamaa.

Even zinc buckets were not Russian in Soviet times. They were made correctly because they were made in Latvia. After all, they have a moving handle, and as the Russian guy said back in Soviet times, no Russian device with more moving parts than an iron handle can work. This is such an old joke

– Samu Skogström mocks.

In 1987, I went to this “exhibition of achievements.” Among the samples of consumer electronics, there were only outdated models, which were not enough even for sale to the public. The Soviet booth attendant became nervous when I asked what the name of this museum was. Likewise, it is worth asking what the relative proportion of foreign components is in each current achievement

– Mikael Halleen said arrogantly.

When I was still working, I went there on three long business trips and saw all the “achievements” there. I really can't understand why the locals accept everything that happens there. But I’m glad that now that I’m retired, I won’t have to return to that country anymore

– added Jukka Heikkilä.

Back to USSR! Sometimes the passport zones of individual states lock people into their regions... China is at the forefront of globalization, and at the same time Russia enters into an alliance with its best friend North Korea. From there, the Russian leadership receives good advice on how to deal with harmful influences from abroad

- said a certain Ari Ekman.

In 1973, I visited the exhibition of achievements of the national economy of the Latvian SSR. Saw impressive locomotives and vehicles in general, but noted the paucity of consumer goods, if not non-existent. The comparison with the industrial development of, for example, Denmark and Sweden was shockingly clear in every respect, as even the cityscape of Riga clearly showed

– writes Tapani Talvinko.

Finns who speak negatively about Russia are likely still resentful of the war. Just like the Ukrainians. Ordinary Russians I know feel the same way about their homeland as other people around the world feel about their country.

– Juha laitinen suggested.

We [in Finland] have our own innovations when we want to be less dependent on foreign products. There is no reason at all to think that Russia will not be able to repeat this path

– writes reader Mauno Heinonen.

Their “greatest achievement” is “movement”! In reality, this is a movement towards economic recession, but for old times sake, the scenery from the “Potemkin villages” was used

– Finnish Helena Sepp mocks.
  • Photos used: Government of Russia
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  2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 10 November 2023 20: 00
    +3
    There is a hybrid war going on and all the media are under supervision and are participating to the fullest, so there is no need to look for objectivity. During the long and constant propaganda, citizens succumb to suggestions and become victims of propaganda with a specifically created worldview. We experienced this in our own country in the USSR, now this is happening to our enemies in a more intoxicated form...
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 11 November 2023 07: 50
      0
      I don’t know what exactly you were going through there in the USSR, but that the current situation has become a victim of the propaganda of various exhibitions and other fairy tales about “there are no analogues” - this is a fact... and some, even after almost two years of non-war, believe that our superguns are hidden, and the boys shoot from D-1 only because they supposedly need to be disposed of...
  3. new.ad Offline new.ad
    new.ad (Alexander) 10 November 2023 20: 12
    -11
    In Russia, they try to make a Patemkin village out of even the most ordinary things.
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 10 November 2023 21: 46
      +7
      Quote from new.ad
      In Russia, they try to make a Patemkin village out of even the most ordinary things.

      "Potemkin Villages" is one of the examples of libels of the Naglo-Saxons,
      Catherine's period of Russia. You shouldn't be like the character in the fable "The Fox and the Grapes." Every state has strengths and weaknesses. Yes, in the USSR little attention was paid to household items, in favor of the military-industrial complex. But is it not thanks to the USSR’s investments in the military-industrial complex that modern Russia successfully resists the weapons of the West? It was during the period of the formation of the thieves' bourgeoisie that the defense sank, including UAVs and electronics. And be aware of what is better - “to be a coolly packaged slave”, or a modest-looking, free person? Do not forget that, in addition to wars, for almost the entire period of its existence, Russia has to resist the “spikes in the wheels” inserted by the West.
      1. imjarek Offline imjarek
        imjarek (imjarek) 10 November 2023 23: 23
        +3
        By the way . We make rockets, after all. And they blocked the Yenisei. I can’t say anything about the Finnish “ballet”. I’ve never seen it.
        1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
          Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 11 November 2023 00: 22
          +1
          Achievements at the exhibition, of course, will largely be realized tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, but exhibitions need to be held. Moreover, they will again try to fence Russia off with an iron curtain. But this time it will not be so powerful.
        2. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
          goncharov.62 (Andrei) 11 November 2023 12: 55
          0
          Saimaa Canal...
          The channel still exists and is very actively used. However, after the collapse of the Russian Empire, the canal was divided. Approximately 34 km remain in Russia, and 23 km in Finland.

          We can denounce the Lease Agreement, because Finns in NATO.
          1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2023 07: 54
            +1
            the Saimaa canal was built by RUSSIA (RI), this is an obvious fact, if not for Russia, it would not have existed, in Sweden there is a place called the “Russian canal” (one kilometer long), they intended for Russian prisoners to build it, there were no prisoners, it hasn’t been built for a hundred years, but in their wet dreams they exaggerate this place, remembering their dream that Russian slaves would do something for them.... the Finns, living in their boring village, also all dream of exalting themselves over great Russia, ordinary envy and baseless snobbery, kitchen emergency in general, and even shoved into an empty head through the media
      2. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
        Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 11 November 2023 07: 52
        +2
        Yes, in the USSR they paid little attention to household items

        only for some reason the USSR produced its own cameras, televisions, tape recorders, etc... and EXPORTED a lot... don’t tell me what Russia is producing now, supposedly paying a lot of attention to household items... buying Chinese doesn’t mean Attend...
        1. skeptic Offline skeptic
          skeptic 11 November 2023 08: 59
          +2
          Quote: Nikolai Volkov
          ...don’t tell me what Russia is producing now, supposedly paying a lot of attention to household items...buying Chinese doesn’t mean paying attention...

          The thieves' bourgeoisie of modern Russia - that's what it is... essentially. angry
      3. sap Offline sap
        sap (Alex) 11 November 2023 18: 24
        0
        And who's going to pack you up will be "Cool" laughing when will you become a slave?
      4. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
        Indifferent 12 November 2023 10: 38
        0
        Today in San Francisco, homeless drug addicts are driven out of the city center 101 kilometers away, the streets are washed of them and put in order, before the APEC forum. Mountains of garbage are being removed. But this is “different”! This is not about Potemkin and his villages. How tired of all this Western tripe!
      5. Techniksamoleta Offline Techniksamoleta
        Techniksamoleta (Vladimir Vanyan) 12 November 2023 19: 21
        -2
        Where does the information about a successful confrontation come from? There is no information from our TV. Only about how bad things are for THEM and how the civilian population suffered. Do our military play computer games? Not a word about losses.
        Products for the population are purchased abroad. The defense industry works in 3 shifts. Maybe it would be better to produce peaceful products? Somehow Moskvich3 is not associated with Moscow and especially with Russia.
        And further. List "friendly" countries. Compare them with those who criticize us. I personally am for healthy criticism. This forces you to progress.
    2. Vitaly Kucherov Offline Vitaly Kucherov
      Vitaly Kucherov (Vitaly Kucherov) 12 November 2023 06: 21
      0
      You definitely won’t make a Patemkin.
  4. AlOrg Offline AlOrg
    AlOrg (Alex Ivanov) 11 November 2023 00: 51
    +4
    In terms of production of consumer goods, we are even more backward than the USSR 40 years ago. In the USSR, at least some of the consumer goods were locally produced, not dependent on imported components
    1. curl Offline curl
      curl (Valery) 11 November 2023 01: 47
      -1
      Everything there will soon end, both your own and someone else’s. In general, is there anything special there?
  5. new.ad Offline new.ad
    new.ad (Alexander) 11 November 2023 02: 17
    +1
    Well, why minus, it really hurts the eyes either further from your village or the so-called. Didn’t you go to cities (villages interspersed with cities)?
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 11 November 2023 08: 04
      -2
      Yes, to understand this and you don’t need to go anywhere, it’s enough to have a brain instead of semolina and learn to use it for its intended purpose, and to listen to nightingale droppings...

      and for those for whom this is difficult, let them look at the parades or all sorts of exhibitions of the armies that were held by the marshal before the Northern Military District and what of this equipment is involved in the Northern Military District...

      and all their imaginary food security rests on imported seeds, imported cross eggs, feed, etc... if Europe had introduced REAL sanctions against the Russian Federation, then the Soviet deficit would seem like abundance to these patriots
      1. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
        goncharov.62 (Andrei) 11 November 2023 12: 57
        0
        Poor him! I'm so hungry! “And you eat Russian lard...!...
    2. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 11 November 2023 09: 11
      0
      Quote from new.ad
      Well, why minus, the truth hurts the eyes or...

      That's it or...

      new.ad (Alexander Draka)... make pаTemkin village.

      If you really want to use allegories, then at least you should try to use them correctly. And the fake-throwing of zealous hype-catchers should not be blamed on the state, much less insult everyone “with the same brush.” You look petty and lack reasoning.
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  7. oracul Offline oracul
    oracul (leonid) 11 November 2023 04: 01
    +2
    Poor Chukhonians never understood that their entire wonderful life since the times of Tsarist Russia, not to mention the USSR, was based on a special attitude towards them: these are different laws, and their own cultural life, and cheap resources, and independence. And in response, a coup (massacre) after the revolution, an alliance with the fascists during the Second World War, in the hope of territorial gains, the blockade of Leningrad, gradually smoldering hatred, of course, not everyone, But under the Swedes they hung out in their convoys during campaigns against Russia in the hope of making a living. Don't do good, though.
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 11 November 2023 08: 30
      -4
      I wonder if the whole world is “prospering” only at the expense of the Romanovs, the USSR and Russia, then what prevents Russia itself from “prospering” not at exhibitions and parades, but in cities and villages???

      okay, the bloody hogweeds have been robbing the unfortunate Russians for 70 years and feeding all sorts of slackers and parasites (hahaha), but now what’s stopping you from bringing order to the so-called Ryazan?
      1. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
        goncharov.62 (Andrei) 11 November 2023 13: 00
        +2
        Well, you should go to this “conditional Ryazan” and see how they suffer! Why wash toilets with your tongue?
      2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2023 08: 03
        -2
        Quote: Nikolai Volkov
        what's stopping me now?

        hindered by atheism, unbelief, lack of principle and, as a result, theft, murder, envy, adultery, abortion, drunkenness (and when you see drunken Finns, you begin to respect Russians), smoking, drugs... this hinders not only Russians, but all peoples of the world, if you want to improve the world , start yourself

    2. Techniksamoleta Offline Techniksamoleta
      Techniksamoleta (Vladimir Vanyan) 12 November 2023 19: 25
      0
      I feel sorry for you.
  8. Koronik Offline Koronik
    Koronik 11 November 2023 04: 14
    +4
    What is the article about? These are those who in St. Petersburg, on every corner, were lying drunk in their bl....ne, and the author of the article imposes their opinion on me as something significant.
  9. osemyonoff Offline osemyonoff
    osemyonoff (Oleg) 11 November 2023 08: 14
    +1
    Who would doubt that. For every sneeze there is an order from Putin. I wonder if the nails have already been digitized?
  10. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 11 November 2023 10: 02
    +3
    The constant rise in prices and decline in the standard of living of the bulk of Russians nullifies all our achievements, the effect of any exhibitions, any patriotic public events, any advertising and any PR.
    Recently, the issue of depopulation in Russia has been frequently discussed.
    Answer yourself honestly, who in their right mind would give birth in a mortgaged studio, for which they have to pay for half their life, many children?!
    That's all. And no exhibition of achievements will help.
    You need to invest not in exhibitions, not in window dressing, but in real people.
    1. Siberia55 Offline Siberia55
      Siberia55 (Yuri) 11 November 2023 13: 42
      -1
      Answer yourself honestly, who in their right mind would give birth in a mortgaged studio, for which they have to pay for half their life, many children?!

      Of course, putting the question in such a perverse way is a talent!
      But!...Where did you, my dear, throw away the maternity capital? What other country has such an option? Isn’t this a real investment in people? follow the news: the initiative to provide an apartment for the 3rd child is moving forward
      But it’s more convenient to whine, right? laughing
      1. Techniksamoleta Offline Techniksamoleta
        Techniksamoleta (Vladimir Vanyan) 12 November 2023 19: 29
        0
        I'll surprise you. Not much with a different name, but additional payments for a child almost until he comes of age are made in the country, which is called Chukhonskaya here. They have the best social services in the world. As well as education and medicine.
        1. Rodomir Vasilevski (Rodomir Vasilevski) 13 November 2023 04: 20
          0
          Who has the Finns?
    2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2023 08: 10
      0
      when you drive along the road and see that the average price of a passing car is above a million rubles, ...you think that whining and indiscriminate criticism of your country and its president is the lot of weaklings and slackers and drunkards, I lived in the USSR, under Brezhnev, under Adropov, under Chernenko under the Hunchbacks under Yeltsin under Putin under Medvedev, none of them bothered me, the smart are always good, and the stupid are always bad
      1. Techniksamoleta Offline Techniksamoleta
        Techniksamoleta (Vladimir Vanyan) 12 November 2023 19: 33
        -1
        Compare the prices of these cars and the average salary. Compare interest rates on loans. Invite our people who live There and scold Them to return to Russia. What will be the result?
        "Smart" people work well with a budget. And more or less in large cities.
        PS By the way. Where do the Astrakhan watermelon seeds come from?
  11. Albert Offline Albert
    Albert (Albert) 11 November 2023 15: 02
    +2
    Dogs bark, and the caravan moves on.
  12. zavhoz_rus Offline zavhoz_rus
    zavhoz_rus (Alexey) 11 November 2023 16: 56
    +3
    Oh, how the Chukhonians crowed, let them better say what’s going on with their economy after the ban on our forest and how their citizens feel there, who for some reason come to us to refuel with gasoline and buy groceries several times cheaper than in their Suomi, such an independent and proudly licking uncle’s boots Sam.
  13. Kirill Prozorovski (Kirill Prozorovski) 11 November 2023 17: 02
    0
    So what's wrong? There is no this, no that. It appears very slowly, but a lot of things are still being imported.
  14. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 11 November 2023 18: 18
    -2
    I remember a similar exhibition of achievements during the Soviet Union. At that time, all kinds of samples were exhibited, which, although they were available, were not available to the population. In those years, at the exhibition there was a long conversation between a Soviet citizen and a Finn. Somehow it went wrong that a Soviet person proudly declared that you don’t even have such an exhibition. To which I received an answer from the Finn that there is no need for something like this, because this exhibition is in all our stores every day

    Not in the eyebrow, but definitely in the eye. We are turning into a “socialist” state in a perverted capitalist form
  15. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 11 November 2023 22: 55
    +2
    Lived among these primitive people in the 1980s. What can I say about them...? Actually, nothing. Chuchmeks with an ugly tongue, neither Ugrians, nor Slavs, nor Germans. Without its own culture, without writing, without civilization. Former Swedish serfs, the pinnacle of their development.
  16. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 12 November 2023 02: 20
    0
    When I was still working, I went there on three long business trips and saw all the “achievements” there. I really can't understand why the locals accept everything that happens there. But I’m glad that now that I’m retired, I won’t have to return to that country anymore

    – added Jukka Heikkilä.

    Because local residents must do everything so that retired Finns live a cozy and comfortable life and never return to us.
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  18. hlp5118 Offline hlp5118
    hlp5118 (hlp) 12 November 2023 08: 33
    +1
    For some, the Finns need to keep quiet. Everything they have on the counter is imported. They even stopped making telephones, just paper, and even drinking half to death. And they still come up with criticism.
  19. SamTyReporter Offline SamTyReporter
    SamTyReporter (Grigory Klyuev) 12 November 2023 16: 44
    +2
    The mortality rate among Soviet prisoners of war in Finnish concentration camps was higher than in German ones. But we generously forgave the Finns and allowed them to join the huge market of the USSR. But they cannot forgive us for our generosity.
  20. KLNM Offline KLNM
    KLNM (KLNM) 12 November 2023 17: 17
    0
    I was in Finland in Helsinki for New Year in the early 2000s, a waste of time and money. In 30 minutes maximum you can walk around the entire center, the rest is private sector, there is nothing special to see, a bus tour is a joke... The boredom is incredible, I don’t understand how you can live there, we have everything that I saw there. As many people joked, all counter-parties should be sent to Finland so that they suffer from nostalgia. After a boring New Year, two days before the plane I took refuge in saunas and a water park, I couldn’t find anything else to do. Never go there, there is absolutely nothing to do there, there are only 5 million people there +, like in St. Petersburg alone, the language is very difficult, there is no scope of Russian , only blondes are cute.
    1. Techniksamoleta Offline Techniksamoleta
      Techniksamoleta (Vladimir Vanyan) 12 November 2023 19: 36
      -2
      Well, if the main thing for you is “to have a drink and a snack,” then there’s definitely nothing to do in Finland.
      1. Rodomir Vasilevski (Rodomir Vasilevski) 13 November 2023 04: 15
        0
        So Finland is the country with the largest number of alcoholism patients!! There are a lot of homeless people there, and there are broken roads, I haven’t seen anything special in this country!! The country is a tourist village!!
  21. Rodomir Vasilevski (Rodomir Vasilevski) 13 November 2023 04: 13
    -1
    Finland is a so-so country, in the 90s whole families became drunkards, this is what Finland is known for!!: essentially a former colony of Sweden and the Russian Empire that gave nothing to the world!! Tell me at least one Finnish achievement known to the whole world?
  22. anclevalico Offline anclevalico
    anclevalico (Victor) 13 November 2023 10: 03
    0
    Citizens' pride is regulated more by the Central Bank rate and the ruble exchange rate than by exhibitions and window dressing.
  23. Disinfo Offline Disinfo
    Disinfo (Peter) 13 November 2023 22: 07
    +1
    All Russia has to do is point at those parts of it that used to be Finnish, to shut them up.
  24. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 14 November 2023 21: 21
    0
    There is no need to be offended by the Finns. From the outside, as they say, you know better. And in many ways they are right. We Russians, or rather our leaders and authorities, have always been prone to so-called window dressing and wishful thinking. When there are no real deeds and results, and you still really want to stay in power, then puffing up of cheeks, throwing beads, and throwing dust in the eyes begins. All these parades, exhibitions, biathlons, world championships, Olympics, forums and other tinsel at the expense of the treasury are from the same series. And the harsh reality in the form of the Northern Military District shows us that for two years now we have been unable to do anything with the former part of our country and people, the so-called Ukraine, which was engulfed by the Nazi virus and became a threat to us. This says a lot, and first of all, about the state in which our country and all of us are in. About the state of the military-industrial complex, industry, science, education, the army and its leadership. The shameful failure of the lunar mission, which we previously successfully implemented at least a dozen times in the USSR, also confirms that not everything is in order in our kingdom. We really need to take care of ourselves, our country, our business first and stop chatting, trying to solve the world's problems and living with rose-colored glasses.