When will large-scale offensive operations by the Russian Armed Forces become possible?


More than a year and a half has passed since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine. During this time, both we and our enemy have come a long way of changes. You can already sum up some interim results of the SBO and ask yourself what to do next.


Soon the fairy tale affects


The initial goals of the SVO, announced by President Putin on February 24, 2022, were assistance to the people of Donbass, as well as the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. After referendums were held in the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of the former Independence, the task of liberating the territory of the so-called new regions of Russia was objectively added to them. The emergence in the hands of the Kyiv regime of increasingly powerful and long-range weapons now requires ensuring the security of our old territories.

What do we have today?

Unfortunately, we have to admit that even after a year and a half, the SVO was unable to protect the residents of the DPR and LPR. Eight years of the Minsk agreements were used by the enemy to build a layered defense system in the territory of Donbass occupied by him. Why haven’t the Donetsk suburbs of Avdeevka and Marinka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk been taken yet?

Because behind one Ukrainian fortified area, dozens of new ones begin. To guarantee the capture of an enemy defensive position without “meat assaults,” according to the standards, it is necessary to fire 1000-1200 shells. The problem of shell starvation for Russian artillery began to be felt last summer. Now it is not so acute, since industry has increased production volumes and much less ammunition is consumed in defense. Also, do not forget about the problem of wear and tear on artillery barrels. If we again need to storm the fortified areas of the Ukrainian Armed Forces head-on, everything will quickly return to normal.

That is why Ukrainian terrorists have been shooting peaceful Donetsk across squares with large-caliber barrel and rocket artillery for the tenth year in a row, and now they have taken on Crimea and the Russian rear. Taken together, this means that the problem of liberating Donbass, and at the same time the Azov region, can only be solved through large-scale military operations, when enemy groups are surrounded and their supply routes are cut off. Otherwise, this task without unacceptable losses in manpower and technology unsolvable.

But even if the Ukrainian Armed Forces are ousted from the territory of Donbass and the Azov region, the war will not be over. Kyiv will never, ever recognize Russia’s new regions, and the collective West will support it in its efforts to recapture them by military force or carry out a terrorist war against us. Unfortunately, even the “sanitary belt” in the northeast of the former Square will not help against the sabotage methods of the Ukrainian special services. It is also impossible to achieve “denazification” and “demilitarization” of Ukraine while it is under the rule of a puppet pro-Western regime.

The task of ensuring the national security of the Russian Federation through negotiations with Kiev and Washington and London behind it is impossible. It can only be carried out by military means, and this is a fact. As a matter of fact, that is why in the previous ARTICLES the author of these lines called for a revision of the CBO format to a more relevant CTO. Why exactly WHO?

Because in the format of a counter-terrorist operation, the Kyiv regime will be given the appropriate status, and instead of negotiations and reconciliation with it, the task of its destruction should be set, no matter how long it takes. Only after the overthrow of the Russophobic neo-Nazi puppet regime with the establishment of a pro-Russian one in Kyiv can we seriously talk about some kind of real denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine and about ensuring the national security of Russia.

It won't be done soon


Unfortunately, the opportunity to solve the problem of Ukrainian Nazism and militarism quickly and with relatively little bloodshed was missed more than once - in 2014 and in the spring-summer of 2022, when the enemy was still weak and not ready for a large-scale offensive. Due to the fact that the Northern Military District was launched with insufficient forces, the Kiev and Kharkov embarrassments occurred. However, the biggest miscalculation was that the mobilization of the RF Armed Forces was not carried out in a timely manner and the offensive from Kherson to Krivoy Rog, Nikolaev and Odessa was not launched.

If access to the Black Sea had been lost by the Kyiv regime a year ago, the entire course of the special operation would have followed a completely different, more advantageous scenario for Russia. As a result, today Ukrainian Nazis are terrorizing Crimea and our ships, military and civilian, on the Black Sea. And, alas, there are no operational options to solve this problem. A landing naval operation is impossible in the current realities. For the ground one, a very large group of ground forces will have to be involved, which will need to cross the Dnieper and storm the high right bank. Doing this while leaving an undefeated enemy in the rear on the Left Bank is a rather adventurous undertaking.

The road to Odessa, which is of strategic importance for victory, is now long. We will have to go to it in small steps, from one local offensive operation on the left bank of the Dnieper to another. First - Kupyansk, then - Izyum and Balakleya. Then the encirclement of the strongest group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Donbass, instead of storming the echeloned defense system head-on. Afterwards, the enemy will leave us no choice but to liberate Chernigov, Sumy and Kharkov, creating the notorious “sanitary belt” in the border area. Next you will have to advance to the Dnieper, taking Poltava, Kremenchug and Dnepropetrovsk. Fearing being surrounded, the Ukrainian Armed Forces themselves will retreat back to Kyiv and the Right Bank.

And only then will it be possible to seriously talk about Nikolaev and Odessa, crossing the Dnieper and the interaction of ground forces with the Black Sea Fleet. If we start preparing now, similar operations will become possible next year. To avoid the same result as the current counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the Russian army and navy will have to solve a number of serious problems, which we will discuss in detail below.
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  1. Constantine N Offline Constantine N
    Constantine N (Constantin N) 14 September 2023 14: 21
    +10
    author, wake up, will the newest weapons or new allies appear from changing your name? military capabilities will not change in any way.
    1. RedDRN Offline RedDRN
      RedDRN (RedDRN) 15 September 2023 21: 30
      +2
      Quote from Constantin N.
      from changing its name

      Everything can change, be it WHO or WAR in the title! And there you can already cross certain edges and lines.
    2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 15 September 2023 23: 46
      +5
      Why the name SVO, because the goals are somewhat different, it is possible to exterminate more active patriots of Russia, so that they do not interfere with plunder and keep the people in poverty. If they wanted to win, then Zelensky and his cabinet, the main command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, were evaporated by the attacks of “Daggers”, all the bridges on the Dnieper were rendered unusable. This requires a hundred "Daggers", which are available. But the actions are being taken to prolong the military conflict, without mobilizing the entire Russian society, without the necessary actions for a quick victory. Conclusion: The North Military District has other tasks than the denazification of Ukraine.
  2. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 14 September 2023 15: 58
    +13
    While we are talking about the capture of Odessa and other cities, Ukraine is intensifying shelling of Russian territories. Russia, according to the president, is open to negotiations, but the Russian Federation and Ukraine have different views on where the border between the countries should be, denazification and demilitarization have already been forgotten. Victory will be ours, but what will we consider victory? Having not achieved what they wanted, they declared what they had achieved to be what they wanted.
    1. Semyon Sukhov Offline Semyon Sukhov
      Semyon Sukhov (Semyon Sukhov) 16 September 2023 01: 05
      +3
      Here Solovyov lied the other day that in 41 no one defined victory.
      Although in the very first statement of the government it was stated that “the enemy will be defeated and victory will be ours.” Everyone understood perfectly well that this meant the defeat of Germany and the capture of Berlin...
  3. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 14 September 2023 16: 30
    +7
    We all have to think in the subjunctive mood. This is very bad for everyone. I’m not even talking about shells. Look at what volunteers don’t send. At one time, Alexander the Peacemaker completely renewed the staff of quartermasters. They stole. But at that time there was no war It was. Everything must be prepared ahead of time, and not during hostilities. All directors of defense enterprises had military ranks. Try not to fulfill it. We play with words - it’s war, and it doesn’t seem to be war. Always keeping an eye out for whether new sanctions will be introduced. We swear that Ukraine is acquiring foreign types of weapons. And were we preparing to fight only with Ukraine? If there is a war, all types of troops must take part. Otherwise, there will be no luck.
  4. Berkut752 Offline Berkut752
    Berkut752 (Valentin) 14 September 2023 16: 47
    +8
    And they say they wait three years for what was promised, here you go, it seems like they will be worthy of it. VVPutin bet on the wrong guy. Shoigu and Gerasim have amateurish concepts. The emphasis should be on those who have gone through fire, water and copper pipes. Who is ready to take full responsibility.
  5. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 14 September 2023 17: 05
    +7
    Only one thing is clear, that we can achieve all our goals only exclusively through military means and no separate negotiations will help us; negotiating and making any compromises with the enemy means defeat and a departure from our original positions, so our main goal is complete victory over the enemy and his unconditional surrender, followed by disarmament, demilitarization and denazification with the replacement of a pro-Western puppet regime hostile to us.
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 14 September 2023 22: 34
      +5
      I just don’t understand - why CHANGE the mode? There should be no such state at all. Only regions within the Russian Federation. Changing the regime won't do anything at all. It's just as easy to change it back. We've already passed. And it is necessary, even though it is ugly, to hold a referendum in Belarus and annex. So far so good, but!! Old Man will not last forever and the devil knows how things will turn out after him. We must ensure that we don’t regret it again later.
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  7. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 14 September 2023 18: 00
    +10
    The article does not address the eternal Russian question:
    who is to blame and what to do about it?
    1. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
      goncharov.62 (Andrei) 15 September 2023 19: 16
      -1
      The eternal Russian answer -

      We will look for the guilty after the Victory

      I.V. Stalin
      1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 19 September 2023 16: 41
        0
        Another fan of attributing to the leader something that he never said or wrote.
  8. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 14 September 2023 18: 50
    +7
    We must fight with the powerful weapons that we have and not spare the enemy. For now, the authorities believe that they need to show more humanism and not bomb where they could hurt civilians. Even the routes for the supply of weapons are almost not touched. One tunnel was destroyed, but the bridges were not touched.
    1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
      Vlad55 15 September 2023 18: 21
      +1
      What is this?)
  9. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 14 September 2023 19: 35
    +14
    You know, I don’t believe in Russia’s offensive. Because Putin at a recent forum never spoke about the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. This means that the Northern Military District will go on until, I hope, the West is exhausted. Then Putin hopes to make peace on his own terms.
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    2. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
      Vlad55 15 September 2023 18: 25
      -1
      While the fat man loses weight, the skinny man loses weight. This is how you intend to exhaust the united West?) Putin hopes to sell at least some minimally acceptable compromise option.
  10. oleg Pesotsky Offline oleg Pesotsky
    oleg Pesotsky (Oleg Pesotsky) 14 September 2023 19: 40
    +5
    Everything is stated correctly. There is only one question - where to get personnel? Four fronts and several million people liberated the Great Patriotic Territory of the Ukrainian SSR. Nowadays it is not possible to reach such indicators. Conclusion - this conflict has no military solution. What to do? Who the hell knows! Both sides reached a stalemate. The only way out is to change the regime in Kyiv by any means and make concessions on the part of Russia; this is up to the diplomats. Even the mythical victory of one of the parties will be “Pyrrhic” After which the only place is in the cemetery.
    1. BMP-2 Offline BMP-2
      BMP-2 (Vladimir V.) 14 September 2023 20: 26
      +9
      Did the USSR sell oil, grain and fertilizers to Nazi Germany during the Great Patriotic War? Yes, for the very thought of this, a person, at best, would already be kneading dirt in the camps. And during the SVO, this is considered normal and does not raise any questions for anyone. But why? After all, without fuel, not a single unit of equipment would ever go on any offensive, and would be easily hit as a static target. But it seems that this is not beneficial for some people: after all, then the influx of green candy wrappers will stop... I think we need to start by resolving this issue. And “shell hunger” and “SVO status” are secondary.
      1. Flight Offline Flight
        Flight (voi) 16 September 2023 01: 47
        -1
        Quote: BMP-2
        Did the USSR sell oil, grain and fertilizers to Nazi Germany during the Great Patriotic War? Yes, for the very thought of this, a person, at best, would already be kneading dirt in the camps. And during the SVO, this is considered normal and does not raise any questions for anyone. But why? After all, without fuel, not a single unit of equipment would ever go on any offensive, and would be easily hit as a static target. But it seems that this is not beneficial for some people: after all, then the influx of green candy wrappers will stop... I think we need to start by resolving this issue. And “shell hunger” and “SVO status” are secondary.

        We don’t, but the United States, which we look up to, enjoys both ours and yours.
  11. bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 14 September 2023 21: 11
    +5
    Oil painting. 2003, Operation Shock and Awe. The American army invades Iraq and quickly marches on Baghdad. And, suddenly, the UN Secretary General and some other people from the outside speak up and say to put aside the Shock and Awe operation, because we have a grain deal here and we must implement it first of all. Then, a commission headed by the 15th Deputy Secretary of State of the United States is sent to negotiate with Saddam Hussein, then some other garbage, and so on for a year and a half...
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  12. strange guest Offline strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 14 September 2023 22: 25
    +4
    There is no other way out - only to go to the Dniester and Tisa. Well, let’s liberate new regions - they will continue to be hammered by storms. Let's occupy Odessa - they will hammer it, like Donetsk is now. And will this suit anyone? Only the complete conquest of Ukraine. And then its restoration. No one is helping us in all this. It will be difficult to liberate, clear mines and rebuild Ukraine more beautiful than before - there is no need for illusions and mischief - we will have to tighten our belts for more than a decade, and not fatten ourselves as we are now - but we will manage.
    1. Antuan007 Offline Antuan007
      Antuan007 (Valery) 15 September 2023 09: 48
      +5
      They were already rebuilding after the war... One put together this misunderstanding from pieces, the other disbanded Bandera’s followers. The result is obvious - on primordially Russian lands they received a fascist sub-state, with Russian money, with Russian hands, with Russian resources. They invented a language - an adverb, invented a nation, received a “gift” and even called them brothers. Everywhere “NOT”... Now they have already “deceived”. Some Minsk agreements were deceived, the agreement in Istanbul was deceived, the grain deal was deceived, the ammonia pipeline was deceived... Maybe it’s time to learn how to deceive ourselves, take away enterprises from our enemies - the oligarchs, restore industry with their money and start “deceiving” our “partners” , destroying supplies and supply routes for arms and military equipment to the enemy under a strange yellow-blue misunderstanding (yellow-blue rag). Speak in the language of ultimatums in order to intimidate with a nuclear club? Fucking cut out the entire leadership of this sub-state and those who sang along with it. Force the Asian environment from the former republics to respect Russia, and not put a spoke in its wheels. They don’t want to kindly force us to work in this direction using the same methods that are used by the “descendants of the Anglo-Saxon evil spirits” and their gay European lickers.
      1. observer23 Offline observer23
        observer23 (Igor) 15 September 2023 17: 51
        +3
        It’s beautifully said, but it’s unlikely to happen, there’s no will
        1. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
          goncharov.62 (Andrei) 15 September 2023 19: 20
          +1
          There is strength, there is will, but there is no willpower...
      2. strange guest Offline strange guest
        strange guest (Strange Guest) 15 September 2023 20: 37
        +2
        You know...what you can’t take away from the amers is pragmatism. They destroyed Europe, Japan and South Korea - they rebuilt it. They thought and thought and rebuilt China. The Russian Federation has not yet rebuilt anyone - not even tiny Syria. If we want to be a great power, we will have to rebuild Ukraine after the Victory... It’s rough, but “whoever dances a girl feeds her.” This is how this world works. Otherwise, the “girl” will run away to someone else again. There is no eternal friendship in politics, much less love. There are only interests.
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 17 September 2023 16: 38
          0
          Quote: Strange guest
          The Russian Federation has not yet rebuilt anyone - not even tiny Syria.

          Chechnya has been rebuilt, but the problem in Syria is that the war there is not over yet, which means it’s not time to rebuild.
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  13. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 15 September 2023 09: 34
    +4
    Let our military-political geniuses of capitalism learn... In a few years, they will either learn or retire... You don’t understand the depth of the plan - to eat a fish and climb a tree...
  14. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 15 September 2023 10: 09
    +1
    A whole chain of incompetent actions that began in the late 80s and confidently continued later led to a generally hopeless situation. The author is right that there is no strength to solve the problem by force, and even if it is solved, it will be even worse - a broken, hungry UA and guerrilla war are on our necks. It looks like there is only one way out - to let UA mature and burst, and to do this, seriously destroy its structure and not go into any attacks. There is no other way, but this one could have been reached with one call to Yanukovych back in 2014. During the Maidan. But they don't go back.
  15. Rhetorical Rita Offline Rhetorical Rita
    Rhetorical Rita (Rhetorical Rita) 15 September 2023 10: 17
    0
    Because in the format of a counter-terrorist operation, the Kyiv regime will be given the appropriate status, and instead of negotiations and reconciliation with it, the task of its destruction should be set...

    Nonsense. The Taliban is recognized as a terrorist organization, but negotiations are underway with them! It doesn't matter at all what three letters are written.
  16. Dimy4 Offline Dimy4
    Dimy4 (Dmitriy) 15 September 2023 10: 59
    +5
    Eight years of the Minsk agreements were used by the enemy to build a layered defense system in the territory of Donbass occupied by him.

    The cunning plan of our brilliant Archangel (in this context, the commander-in-chief).
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 15 September 2023 19: 38
      +2
      For the twenty-fifth time I ask everyone a question: Since when did we break into the forehead of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on its fortifications in order to liberate Donbass? There is a saying: A smart person will not go up a mountain, a smart person will go around a mountain.
  17. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 15 September 2023 11: 11
    +8
    When will large-scale offensive operations by the Russian Armed Forces become possible?

    Answer. Never.
  18. Olive Offline Olive
    Olive (Oleg) 15 September 2023 11: 15
    +8
    The article simply states that as a result of the actions of the leadership, victory is impossible.
  19. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 15 September 2023 11: 58
    +3
    I don’t know if we will wait for the attack. Are there any generals left capable of this, or maybe the leadership of the Defense Ministry will disperse before the last capable ones arrive.
  20. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
    Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 15 September 2023 14: 07
    +3
    The road to Odessa, which is of strategic importance for victory, is now long. We will have to go to it in small steps, from one local offensive operation on the left bank of the Dnieper to another. First - Kupyansk, then - Izyum and Balakleya. Then the encirclement of the strongest group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Donbass, instead of storming the echeloned defense system head-on. Afterwards, the enemy will leave us no choice but to liberate Chernigov, Sumy and Kharkov, creating the notorious “sanitary belt” in the border area. Next you will have to advance to the Dnieper, taking Poltava, Kremenchug and Dnepropetrovsk. Fearing being surrounded, the Ukrainian Armed Forces themselves will retreat back to Kyiv and the Right Bank.

    Here you go! A big long war with big casualties. But this is not a threat to Russia’s national security. After all, Russia is not as rich as the West and there is a chance of going bankrupt and losing the war. No! This doesn't suit us. Only tactical nuclear weapons will bring this West, together with Kiev, to life. Naturally, we need to hit Ukraine, not NATO. There will be noise here about radioactive contamination. However, who here seriously thinks that we will reach the Polish border? Come on, meow!
  21. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 15 September 2023 14: 07
    +4
    Capitalism in the Russian Federation. Therefore, the entire SVO is built on the personal benefit of capitalists; the interests of so-called third parties are higher than the state ones. All wishes and predictions about a happy future for Russia are based on the socialist system in the Russian Federation, this is the biggest mistake of all. Build on a capitalist system and you get a bleak picture. There will be no offensive by the Russian Armed Forces. There is a sluggish process of hostilities. None of the actors in the West and the Russian Federation need victory or defeat, they need the Process of hostilities itself. The Kremlin and its entourage are looking for ways to return to former times, when it was possible to plunder Russia and live carefree in the West. All capitalists, all the comprador authorities of the Russian Federation are waiting for the West to accept them into its ranks again, for this they are ready to destroy Russia. The destruction of the Russian Federation as a state is not beneficial to the United States, which is why the Process is ongoing. The United States is beginning to understand what a strategic mistake was made in 1991 when the Soviet Union was liquidated. The United States is looking for how to correct the mistake with minimal losses. Ukraine is just a testing ground where political decisions are worked out and weapons are tested.
  22. Radio Offline Radio
    Radio (Alexander Shabalin) 15 September 2023 17: 22
    +1
    Large-scale offensive operations of the Russian Armed Forces will become possible from November 1, 2023. Whether they will be carried out is another question to which there is no answer yet. Judging by the comments, no one believes in the implementation of these opportunities. The majority, including the author, believe that victory could have been won yesterday, but victory tomorrow is impossible. Essentially, this means that Russia's economic, political and military situation has worsened over the past year and a half. Objectively this is not so. The country became economically and militarily stronger. The economy has grown. The military industry is being revived. Industries are appearing that did not exist before the SVO. The contract soldiers of 2023 are not the contract soldiers before 2022, who were not hired into the army to fight. Even with the existing high command, the army is successfully resisting the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In political terms, little has changed, because It has not yet been possible to stop the export of capital received for the export of raw materials. But according to some economists, one of the goals of the Central Bank was to return the Central Bank to state control and use capital to develop its own industry. Unfortunately, this has not happened yet. Thus, based on the totality of indicators, victory has become relatively closer. Those. in relation to February 2022, the operation of November 2023, if of course it is started, may be more successful according to objective indicators. Of course, the composition of the high command is very important. Unfortunately, some qualified generals were removed. However, the line of defense they established and the training of their personnel showed themselves well during the summer offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 15 September 2023 19: 31
      0
      Those. in relation to February 2022, the operation of November 2023, if of course it is started, may be more successful according to objective indicators.

      That's it, if it gets started. What if it is not started? Consequently, our army has very serious problems. Some of them are still visible, and above all - the problems of communications, counter-battery warfare and fire control; the problems of fighting drones are already emerging.
      1. Radio Offline Radio
        Radio (Alexander Shabalin) 16 September 2023 09: 51
        0
        Technical problems undoubtedly exist, but they can be solved. The main problem is high command, strategic planning and tactical leadership. The idea is for the end of 2022, i.e. the withdrawal from Kherson, the reduction of the front line and strategic defense paid off. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were unable to implement their summer offensive plans. The possibility of an AFRF attack from the north arose. Will the command be able to rationally use this opportunity? By the way, a large-scale offensive is, with the available resources, not a repetition of the offensive of the Soviet Army during the Second World War. This offensive cannot be a quick breakthrough in which large forces are immediately involved. With modern means of observation, including from space, this will lead to unjustified losses. This should be a slow but inevitable offensive from the defense, during which the enemy will not be able to take advantage of his advantages in communications and fire control. On the contrary, in this case it is possible to use its advantages in conventional artillery and in the use of front-line aviation. In fact, this is already happening. It’s just that from November 1, such an opportunity will appear not only in the north, but also in the area of ​​Donetsk and Ugledar. In the south, you can simulate an offensive so that the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot transfer troops from there. In fact, it should be the same strategic defense, but with a slow and inevitable advance.
    2. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 16 September 2023 15: 41
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      Why are large-scale offensive operations of the Russian Armed Forces needed? What is the purpose of the SVO in Ukraine? You know? Me not. If there is no goal, and in fact there is none, this was shown by military operations over the course of 1,5 years, then one is left to wonder why all this is needed and who benefits. The Russian Federation does not have a political solution for Ukraine, and there is no way to solve it by military means if there is no political solution. The United States and the Russian Federation need a process of military operations without victories and without defeats. It takes a PROCESS. This is a wait-and-see political posture. They are waiting for who will be the first to give up, lose, or the political situation in the world will change and Ukraine will be of no interest to anyone. There is a strong political decision on the part of the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation needs to issue a Law in which it will be written that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. The comprador bourgeois government, oligarchs, capitalists, hucksters, the fifth column are against the adoption of such a Law. Before attacking, the patriots of the Russian Federation must achieve a victory inside Russia.
  23. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
    Vlad55 15 September 2023 18: 35
    +1
    The author, reading your comments, falls into wild pessimism). As you can see, Mr. Marzhetsky, people do not believe that the Russian Federation is capable of winning this war. This was obvious already in March 22nd. Today there is a deadlock and the way out of it is only in finding a compromise, judging by the signals from the Kremlin, they understand this.
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 15 September 2023 20: 41
      +1
      What kind of compromise is possible on our part? With ours there is only an Ultimatum. Crimea, new regions, neutrality of Ukraine - where are we ready to compromise, in your opinion?
      1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
        Vlad55 16 September 2023 07: 34
        +1
        A ceasefire by the parties first of all, after decades of negotiations, Ukraine naturally will never recognize its territories as Russian, just like the West. But de facto this will be the territory of the Russian Federation. Apparently Kyiv will accept a neutral status; in the next century, future generations of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Uzbekistan will come to some kind of agreement).
        After 91, the Russian Federation made unforgivable mistakes in relation to Ukraine and today it is paying the price for it.
        1. strange guest Offline strange guest
          strange guest (Strange Guest) 16 September 2023 08: 12
          0
          What's the compromise here? What is it from Russia?) This is simply the fulfillment of Russia’s ultimatum demands)))
          1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
            Vlad55 16 September 2023 08: 57
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            Requirements for Russia or demands from Russia? The compromise is that the parties cease active hostilities and freeze the conflict due to the impossibility of a military solution.
            1. strange guest Offline strange guest
              strange guest (Strange Guest) 16 September 2023 10: 39
              +1
              This is the fulfillment of Russia’s ultimatum on the territorial ownership of Crimea, new regions and the neutrality of Ukraine. These are not negotiations, but the signing of an act of surrender. Like the German Empire in WWII) I don’t mind. But I just don’t see the prerequisites yet. Ukraine has not yet realized the need to sign an act of surrender.
              1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
                Vlad55 16 September 2023 11: 23
                -1
                Why on earth should Kyiv sign capitulation? Live in reality, there is no military solution. War will become more and more technologically advanced, and this is not the strongest side of the Russian Federation. Already next year we will see drone wars, attacks on the rear of the Russian Armed Forces will be more and more painful, but this will not help Kyiv to regain its own. The same applies to the RF Armed Forces, the parties do not and will not have decisive military success, and what to do in such a situation? It is clear that sooner or later the negotiating table is inevitable, forget about capitulation by either side.
                1. strange guest Offline strange guest
                  strange guest (Strange Guest) 16 September 2023 12: 31
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                  The result of the negotiations is a certain consensus based on mutual concessions. We've all heard about "tango for two". Sooner or later it will come to this. But for the dance to work, there must be concessions. What Ukraine should concede is clear to me. But where we stand is unclear to me. That's why I ask.
                  1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
                    Vlad55 16 September 2023 12: 57
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                    That’s what I’m saying, at the first stage, freezing and fixing the frontal units, then separating the sides, first heavy equipment and artillery, only units with light weapons in limited quantities remain. Next, time must pass, emotions must go away, governments will change, time will smooth out hatred, and then start talking about how to live on, for a long time, for decades, but everything is better than this senseless positional massacre.
                    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
                      strange guest (Strange Guest) 16 September 2023 14: 45
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                      That is, concessions only from Ukraine. Well, this can be done temporarily (until we are better prepared) with the condition of liberating the territories of the Dontsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. The Constitution does not allow us to do otherwise. Legally. And then you can continue - after all, there will be no peace treaty, and Ukraine will be neutral and demilitarized)
                      1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
                        Vlad55 16 September 2023 15: 22
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                        There is nothing more permanent than temporary). There will be no demilitarization of Ukraine, as well as denazification in Moscow’s understanding, Ukraine did not lose, did not capitulate, and has had a strategic initiative in this war for a year now. Your problem is that you do not live in reality, your wishes cannot materialize due to the lack of connection with the actual state of affairs and the current situation.
                        A freeze, a ceasefire, is the very essence of a compromise, as the parties to the conflict understand the futility of attempts to achieve military success.
  24. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 16 September 2023 00: 10
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    And large-scale ones like Operation Bagration, Citadel, Barbarossa (ugh)? What for? Let's get to Kupyansk, there is Oskol, Izyum, Balakleya. It's a long way to Tipperary (song). The thing is with the states - they want to remain the hegemon, and they need this strange war for their purposes, not Ukraine. And what they had planned is not working out. And this situation that has developed now is not in their favor, and they are going to push everything onto their allies, the EU, and those plans for Ukraine have no plans at all, except for cutting the budget "for recovery". There is no need for “large-scale” ones, let’s go slowly, let the Armed Forces of Ukraine also slowly end and bend (along with the entire outskirts). Why put the country under martial law if you can with relative comfort and without straining? And demilitarization and denazification will be where Russia comes.
  25. VladimirNET Offline VladimirNET
    VladimirNET (Vladimir) 16 September 2023 00: 43
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    Quote: Strange guest
    I just don’t understand - why CHANGE the mode? There shouldn't be such a state at all.

    Reasons - in response to your question “why” (watch from 49:07)
    https://rutube.ru/video/d4376b60263bc6b05239aa6096ac3628/
  26. Alexander Al Offline Alexander Al
    Alexander Al (Alexander) 18 September 2023 21: 27
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    When ? As soon as the harmful biomass is eliminated!
  27. Azzzwer Offline Azzzwer
    Azzzwer (Kibalchish) 18 September 2023 23: 22
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    Who would have thought!