Shurygin: the effectiveness of Russian air defense systems cannot be called satisfactory

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Arrival Ukrainian cruise missiles at the shipbuilding enterprise in Sevastopol on the night of September 13 was quite predictable by the logic of ongoing military operations. This point of view was voiced by military expert Vladislav Shurygin.


The density of missile attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine is gradually increasing, and Russian air defense systems sometimes cannot cope with a large number of cruise missiles. A similar thing happened during the repulse of an attack on the Sevastopol plant, when the anti-aircraft missile system of the Russian Armed Forces used up all its ammunition and left the battle to reload.

In addition, the intelligence services of NATO countries provided significant assistance to Kyiv, providing information about the right moment of the strike.

The effectiveness of the air defense covering the Sevastopol Bay at 70% cannot be called satisfactory. 30% of missiles breaking through to targets is an unacceptably high percentage, which actually guarantees the enemy a successful strike

– noted the analyst on the Ramzai telegram channel.

Along with this, Shurygin considers it strange that the Russian side, when repelling the arrival of enemy missiles, did not use fighters, in particular the MiG-31, which effectively intercept such targets.

It must be admitted that the enemy is clearly ahead of our Black Sea command and has the initiative

– stated Vladislav Shurygin.
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  1. Rhetorical Rita Offline Rhetorical Rita
    Rhetorical Rita (Rhetorical Rita) 13 September 2023 14: 56
    -8
    Never mind, North Korea will transfer many anti-aircraft systems to Russia. Then we'll see who wins!
  2. lord-palladore-11045 Offline lord-palladore-11045
    lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 13 September 2023 15: 07
    +8
    Shurygin: the effectiveness of Russian air defense systems cannot be called satisfactory

    It’s absolutely true that among the generals there is an opinion about loyalty to the ruling party, and not to the Russian Federation as a whole. Now, for some reason, they don’t remove the shoulder straps for such mistakes, but they should. Admirals must also be held accountable for their inaction on naval drone attacks in the Black Sea. Similar American ax attacks in Syria have been more successfully foiled.
    Question: is this a loss of qualifications or just disregard? But who cares, the air defense doesn’t do its job. Air defense doesn't work!
    1. Olive Offline Olive
      Olive (Oleg) 13 September 2023 15: 34
      +3
      Well, you can’t just steal 2 trillion dollars and squander another one. Quite natural
  3. Olive Offline Olive
    Olive (Oleg) 13 September 2023 15: 19
    +13
    Leaky air defense, but the situation with the leadership is even worse. With the available resources, it is necessary to destroy launch attacks, rather than repel massive attacks. What if the next one goes through a nuclear power plant? Or, for example, in a bunker?
    Where are the long-promised attacks on decision-making centers? In real centers?
    Thieving, lying mediocrities are only good at cutting the budget
    1. andrey ivanov_2 Offline andrey ivanov_2
      andrey ivanov_2 (Andrey Ivanov) 13 September 2023 15: 45
      +8
      Where are the long-promised attacks on decision-making centers? In real centers?

      Is it possible to strike decision-making centers during a specialized operation? What are you about? What will the progressive foreign and Russian public say to this?
      1. Gray 51 Offline Gray 51
        Gray 51 (Sergei) 15 September 2023 09: 45
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        Change status now WHO
    2. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 13 September 2023 22: 10
      +6
      It has long been the case - monarchs do not kill monarchs. There will be no blows. Nobody wants to take risks.
    3. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 14 September 2023 18: 35
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      But I, a couch potato expert, cannot so easily judge the air defense of Sevastopol. How good is it? Any air defense is not 100%. But the landing craft could have been repaired elsewhere. Possibly a submarine too. And there would be no headache.
  4. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 13 September 2023 17: 54
    +4
    A similar thing happened during the repulse of an attack on the Sevastopol plant, when the anti-aircraft missile system of the Russian Armed Forces used up all its ammunition and left the battle to reload.

    And how we laughed at the “crooked-handed” Syrian and Armenian gunmen... winked
  5. oracul Offline oracul
    oracul (leonid) 14 September 2023 04: 16
    +11
    One can, of course, talk about the reasons for the relative failures of air defense, but the systemic unpreparedness of the Black Sea Fleet (remember Novorossiysk) to repel attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces is depressing. Some kind of total self-confidence that the enemy would not dare to strike again at the fleet bases, the Crimean Bridge, and warehouses. It's time to ask for it!
    1. Alexander Dutov Online Alexander Dutov
      Alexander Dutov (Alexander Dutov) 14 September 2023 17: 44
      +1
      What are you speaking about? They didn’t ask about the lost cruiser and the shot Zmeiny, but here...
  6. Mikhail Dadeko Offline Mikhail Dadeko
    Mikhail Dadeko (Mikhail Dadeko) 14 September 2023 09: 21
    +11
    The hope of our celestials that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will eventually run out of soldiers + ammunition is simply naive, remember Afghanistan. Young people in Ukraine are growing up and hatred of Russia is also growing, the longer the North Military District continues, the more difficult it will be to win, conclusions: the General Staff of the Russian Federation needs to get moving and develop an offensive, there are plenty of examples from the history of Russia!
  7. Antuan007 Offline Antuan007
    Antuan007 (Valery) 14 September 2023 09: 26
    +4
    I wrote about this in a similar post. Air defense in Crimea is not echeloned, hence the blockage during a massive attack; there is simply not enough manpower and equipment and division of zones of responsibility along the air defense network. The Black Sea Fleet constantly steps on the same rake and, rather due to the obstinacy of the command, there is a lack of interaction or inability to manage the assigned assets, including aviation. Since 2014, the Black Sea Fleet has been saturated with so-called troops transferred from the Ukrop units. officers and warrant officers who once escaped from the Soviet army and swore allegiance to the Khokhland. There is nothing but harm from this growth. Instead of leaving them in the Black Sea Fleet, it was necessary to send everyone to Kamchatka or the Pacific Fleet. There are a lot of traitors among them. Of course, they may argue that they are already in reserve and are satisfied with the Russian pension, but their followers and children continue to serve and many events in Crimea testify to their activities.
  8. sannyhome Offline sannyhome
    sannyhome 14 September 2023 10: 09
    +11
    As long as our assessment of the level of training of officers is calculated from the level of loyalty to management, the percentage of effectiveness will remain low.... What's the joke like?

    Dad, will I become a general? No, son, the generals have their own children...
  9. nepunamemuk Offline nepunamemuk
    nepunamemuk (Akela Missed) 14 September 2023 12: 45
    +2
    now near Evpatoria they have crushed the S-400 with Neptunes sad
  10. Scharnhorst Offline Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst (Scharnhorst) 14 September 2023 13: 42
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    A little harshly, but from the heart: it is not for a war correspondent to judge the effectiveness of air defense in general and the Sevastopol base in particular based on one specific episode over the course of a year and a half in the air defense. He was not present at the “debriefing”, he is not an eyewitness, and he has not seen the objective control materials. And admission to programs with V.R. Solovyov and the news feed of television channels are obligated to present to listeners and viewers not his own opinion on an issue in which he is not a recognized expert, but to present an objective picture of reality in accordance with professional ethics.

    The anti-aircraft missile system of the Russian Armed Forces used all its ammunition and left the battle to reload

    Maybe "THIS" is from the division commander's report?

    The intelligence services of NATO countries provided significant assistance to Kyiv, providing information about the right moment of the attack

    And “THIS” from Zelensky’s personal interview?

    Along with this, Shurygin considers it strange that the Russian side, when repelling the arrival of enemy missiles, did not use fighters, in particular the MiG-31, which effectively intercept such targets.

    And after “THESE” words, the commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces unit should resign?
    I apologize, but now I will treat Ramsay’s correspondence with caution.
    1. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
      wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 14 September 2023 17: 48
      +2
      judge the effectiveness of air defense in general and the Sevastopol base in particular based on one specific episode over the course of a year and a half of air defense

      You know there is a long series of similar episodes in the Black Sea Fleet and it is not clear when it will end. And it is not at all necessary to participate in the “debriefing”, to be present, to be an eyewitness, to see objective control materials, so that the correspondent can express his opinion and judgment about the state of affairs in the Black Sea Fleet and its air defense. It is enough to proceed, as you say, from an “objective picture of reality” and all known facts. And if you can’t list them all on your fingers, there won’t be enough.
  11. Nikolay Dyaglev Offline Nikolay Dyaglev
    Nikolay Dyaglev (Nikolay Dyagelev) 14 September 2023 14: 02
    +5
    I support why the owner’s Su 24 from which these “Shadows” were launched were not shot down? Then these planes landed somewhere? Why hasn’t anything been tracked, where are the satellites, where is A 50? Complete failure of defense and intelligence
  12. Platon Verdictov Offline Platon Verdictov
    Platon Verdictov 14 September 2023 14: 54
    +3
    For someone else, it’s all over, but the guarantor still won’t start.
  13. Mapping Offline Mapping
    Mapping (Alexey) 14 September 2023 16: 01
    0
    But Moscow is all covered in air defense systems. And the elite don’t care about the front
  14. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 14 September 2023 17: 18
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    Why be surprised? If Nazi UAVs fly to Moscow unhindered and airfields in Engels and Pskov are bombed. There is no need to talk about Kursk, Belgorod and Bryansk. The North Military District showed that the army as a whole, including the air defense and its command, the military-industrial complex, were not ready for this war. And modern equipment, communications, reconnaissance, electronic warfare, electronic warfare, UAVs and much more in our army turned out to be available, clearly not 72% of which our Minister of Defense reported to the president and the whole country. We only saw it in reports and parades, where it was great and beautiful. In reality it turned out differently. All of us, the authorities and the command incl. they lived in complacency, in the confidence that no one would dare to fight with us as a nuclear country. And there is no particular need to invest particularly in conventional weapons. What remains from Soviet times will be enough. This, as we see, became a big mistake. Now, as the SVO progresses, we have to frantically correct these mistakes and misconceptions. But many more, including The Black Sea Fleet and its command continue to remain confident that there is no need to change or do anything. They say that on the Black Sea our fleet is large and powerful and all sorts of mosquito fleets there are not a hindrance to it. It is for this self-confidence, relaxation and underestimation of the enemy that he suffers. And for some reason, the Black Sea Fleet still does not learn lessons from the hurtful, bitter losses and failures. What else needs to be lost so that our naval commanders finally begin to think and move?
  15. Alexander Dutov Online Alexander Dutov
    Alexander Dutov (Alexander Dutov) 14 September 2023 18: 03
    +2
    On the issue of "leaky air defense". In Vietnam, the effectiveness of the warring air defense was assessed by the number of carriers themselves shot down, including helicopters that took part in the raid. Moreover, with the light hand of the Judge, on a 5-point scale equal to the percentage of those shot down... That is, 5% of those landed was considered a success.
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  17. Lieutenant reserve Offline Lieutenant reserve
    Lieutenant reserve (Vasiliy) 15 September 2023 02: 56
    +2
    If this strike had been the first, it would have been possible to justify the fact that at least three missiles hit the target. It is surprising not only that the missiles reached their target, but also that the missiles are shot down over cities and towns, which leads to great destruction on the ground. It turns out that our air defense cannot detect targets on approach to cities. Although I am not an expert, I am also surprised that our fighters practically do not participate in missile defense. After each successful attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, there are more and more questions, but fewer and fewer answers. How long can such raids be allowed?
  18. Lieutenant reserve Offline Lieutenant reserve
    Lieutenant reserve (Vasiliy) 15 September 2023 03: 02
    +1
    Quote: wladimirjankov
    And for some reason, the Black Sea Fleet still does not learn lessons from the hurtful, bitter losses and failures. What else needs to be lost so that our naval commanders finally begin to think and move?

    It seems that in the air defense command in Crimea and at the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol there are many enemies and sympathizers of the Kyiv regime, who only benefit from the success of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attacks.
  19. Valery sevas Offline Valery sevas
    Valery sevas (Valery) 15 September 2023 13: 01
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    Quote: oracul
    One can, of course, talk about the reasons for the relative failures of air defense, but the systemic unpreparedness of the Black Sea Fleet (remember Novorossiysk) to repel attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces is depressing. Some kind of total self-confidence that the enemy would not dare to strike again at the fleet bases, the Crimean Bridge, and warehouses. It's time to ask for it!

    The air defense system of the Black Sea Fleet is a pitiful single segment and cannot perform full-fledged functions of protecting the entire territory of Crimea and Sevastopol. Another question is that the 31st Air Defense Division - stationed in Crimea and equipped with S400 divisions and Pantsir complexes and which is entrusted with the main task of air defense of Crimea and Sevastopol - this time screwed up everything it could.
  20. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 15 September 2023 17: 54
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    A similar thing happened during the repulse of an attack on the Sevastopol plant, when the anti-aircraft missile system of the Russian Armed Forces used up all its ammunition and left the battle to reload.

    What kind of nonsense is this Shurygin talking about again? What kind of complex emerged from the battle?

    Is he the only one there? For the entire Crimea and Sevastopol? Where are the buk-m3, s-400, shells?

    One bookm3 and with one launcher is 18 missiles. Are there not enough launchers? S-400 is a division with 12 launchers of 48 missiles. Carapace - 12 missiles. Torm2 16 missiles.

    Where was it all? What about aviation with RVV-SD?

    We have Sevastopol covered with one complex with 10 missiles or something?
  21. anyname Offline anyname
    anyname (any name) 16 September 2023 15: 12
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    Is this a bad indicator? I would say that the problem is related to the insufficient number of trained air defense crews and the insufficient number of launchers. I don’t know how many years it takes to train air defense crews, but two years is unlikely to be enough.

    How many people are required for one air defense division? 900 people? And probably more than half of them should have higher education. Even if several thousand people were recruited for training last summer, the first ones will not be ready until the end of 2025.