Navy source: the cruiser "Peter the Great" will be decommissioned


The Russian nuclear-powered missile cruiser Pyotr Veliky is planned to be decommissioned from the Navy after the Admiral Nakhimov of the same type is put into operation, which will undergo repairs and the necessary modernization. This was reported by one of the sources in the Navy. This information has not yet been officially confirmed.


Part of the crew from Peter the Great has already switched to another cruiser, the remaining sailors ensure the survivability of the ship.

The fact that the Admiral Nakhimov will be subjected to sea trials in 2023 was announced by the head of the Russian defense department, Sergei Shoigu, at the end of May during a conference call with representatives of the Ministry of Defense. At the same time, the head of the ministry noted that the tests will take place at the end of the year, after which the cruiser will continue to serve as part of the ships of the Northern Fleet.

Modernization of the Nakhimov will include equipping it with modern equipment and long-range high-precision weapons - we are talking, in particular, about the Zircon hypersonic missiles.

Meanwhile, the flagship of the Northern Fleet, Pyotr Veliky, is by far the largest non-aircraft-carrying attack ship in the world, as well as the only combat surface nuclear-powered vessel in the Russian Navy. The construction of the ship began in 1986, it was launched in 1989.
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  1. No, Peter the Great must be modernized and sent along with Nakhimov to protect the Northern Sea Route from the Merikashki! After all, these cattle climb there without soap! And it’s better to spend money right now than to arrange an NWO in the Arctic later!
  2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 14 July 2023 22: 46
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    Meanwhile, the flagship of the Northern Fleet, Pyotr Veliky, is by far the largest non-aircraft-carrying attack ship in the world, as well as the only combat surface nuclear-powered vessel in the Russian Navy.

    How to put it - "an expensive suitcase without a handle - it's a pity to throw it away, it's impossible to carry it." Such hulks have long moved from the category of combat to the category of representation. Today there is nothing to imagine, actions by military force are needed. So the repair of "Peter the Great" goes into the category of excessive cost and inconsistency with the main purpose, which means that writing off "on pins and needles" is justified. It is more important to build modern and necessary ships for a longer service than to renew for a decade the super-expensive mammoths of the past era ..
    1. savage3000 Offline savage3000
      savage3000 (Savage) 14 July 2023 23: 39
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      You talk nonsense. Russia needs powerful ships of the first rank to be present in the oceans.

      Peter began to operate in 1998. He's new. Repairing it is many times cheaper than Nakhimov.
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 15 July 2023 18: 34
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        Russia must have ships of the first rank in order to pose a real nuclear missile threat in the oceans to any enemy, wherever it is, of course, only nuclear submarines can do this, and possibly unmanned nuclear submarines, ..... but why does Russia need surface ships of the first rank? this is utter nonsense, target ships are suicide ships, a couple of three ships in the ocean are not warriors, Kuzya is sold to China by India, Varyag is obviously for decommissioning in the coming years, Ustinov will probably serve 5-10 years and also for decommissioning, if I knew that Nakhimov if it turns into a tool for brazenly cutting the budget, it wouldn’t drown 1144 for repairs, and Nakhimov would have been gone for a long time, but since repairs have begun and are already being completed, it will serve for another 10-20 years as the leader of frigates in the Barents Sea. and a formal flagship for postcards and parades (the last Mohican of the cardboard Gorshovsky fleet is not for combat missions, but for show-offs and officer positions) .... you can try to turn 1164 into 1155m, that is, modernize like 1155, remove volcanoes, put 4 calibers instead art of the installation, and saturate the deck with M shells, but I think the game is not worth the candle, it’s not even clear whether it’s worth designing the modernization of a whole pair of very old ships that have served all the lines, the hull is already old there, and even more so all the systems .... I think 956 will be written off within 10 years, so there will be a balanced fleet, nuclear submarines, submarines, minesweepers (they need to be built more), frigates on the oceans and ships of only the third rank on the seas, unbalance only in the presence of a huge battleship cruiser Nakhimov, but it will also come in handy in the Barents Sea
        1. savage3000 Offline savage3000
          savage3000 (Savage) 19 July 2023 22: 28
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          Only nuclear submarines can? Great! Wow, what a power of thought!

          And who is the main enemy of the nuclear submarine at sea? Aviation!!! Can you imagine?

          A curtain.
          1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 19 July 2023 22: 50
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            You are confusing the sea with the ocean, I also inform you that in the ocean the main enemy of the submarine is not aviation, but underwater coastal submarine tracking networks ..... curtain .... ps are you a sofa sea expert?
            1. savage3000 Offline savage3000
              savage3000 (Savage) 19 July 2023 22: 59
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              Tracking nets do not fly at 800 km/h and do not carry torpedoes or depth charges. And the planes, imagine flying and carrying! And helicopters are also fast enough.

              For this, nuclear submarines must be covered by air defense.

              Just learn the materiel and do not drive nonsense. Call the naval headquarters for consultations. They will tell you there.
              1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 20 July 2023 08: 19
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                the main advantage of nuclear submarines is stealth, so your air defense will greatly interfere with them, the main difference between the sea and the ocean is size, size matters, your planes and helicopters will not be able to embrace the so far vast ocean, even NATO does not have enough of them for this, therefore the nuclear submarine is not detected in the ocean, although near California and Florida it is possible your aircraft and helicopters, as well as underwater tracking systems can detect nuclear submarines, unfortunately, however, the nuclear submarine does not have to come so close, so the main enemy of the nuclear submarine is not bombs torpedoes and loss of camouflage, so that your battleship cruisers can do a disservice to nuclear submarines, because they will unmask and air defense will not benefit them, it’s better for nuclear submarines when approaching the American coast, secretly approach a dry cargo ship or tanker, for example, an American one, noisy and massive, under it no one will find it at all, neither your planes nor helicopters .... it’s better than unmasking yourself under the "air defense cover" full of holes like mine skvas, because all the naval cruisers now combat-ready are like Moscow, and if Ustinov has undergone modernization, then the Varyag is generally a copy of Moscow in terms of condition and armament .... and what can one lone cruiser in the ocean against the USA and NATO? if he could not resist the ukrofascists? we have a cruiser on the ocean ... how they bring Nakhimov, sell Kuzya, immediately write off Peter and probably Varyag and a little later Ustinov, there will be one battleship cruiser in the Navy for parades and postcards of posters, and will hang out in the Barents Sea playing the role of the leader of the frigates of the plane ..... so your idea to accompany nuclear submarines further than Barentsevo and the coastal regions of Kamchatka is stupid
                1. savage3000 Offline savage3000
                  savage3000 (Savage) 20 July 2023 12: 09
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                  Please learn materiel. Read some literature ... who and how covers the apl. It's stupid even for you to discuss your nonsense. It's wild.
    2. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 15 July 2023 19: 19
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      How to put it - "an expensive suitcase without a handle - it's a pity to throw it away, it's impossible to carry it."

      - how can you say that?! After all, this is a warship, a symbol of former greatness. He was feared, and now he is a striking force that few can overcome. It's a SHIP! You are not a naval man - a tree ...
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 15 July 2023 20: 07
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        Quote from: lord-pallador-11045
        warship, a symbol of former greatness

        you need to figure out which of the two is a warship or a symbol? if you are a naval person, you should understand that they don’t fight with symbols, we had the symbol of the oldest (in the mouth of the media the latest) cruiser, sunk, so the warship must have at least air defense, and not just be a slowly moving rusty faulty target, the symbols are very easy to drown


        1. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 15 July 2023 21: 03
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          so a warship must have at least air defense, and not just be a slow moving rusty malfunctioning target, symbols are very easy to drown

          apparently you are talking about the cruiser "Moskva", ask how old he is and how old Peter the Great is. Even if they were both new, they couldn't be compared. It is worth at least talking about a nuclear power plant, which Moscow did not have, and so on. and so on.
          1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 15 July 2023 21: 38
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            you are clearly not a naval one, well, for example, let me explain, do you buy a car by year? one car was a taxi, and the other was in the garage and drove to the dacha in the summer on weekends, the third car changed the engine was overhauled, so the year of manufacture does not always mean something, about a nuclear power plant, you can buy yourself a Mercedes for only 150 thousand, but it’s better to buy a field, but a new one and not a falling apart Mercedes, Peter the Great served 24 years and was not combat ready for a long time, Nakhimov’s protracted repair was postponed, and now Peter’s repair has been canceled, 24 years is the period when the second overhaul should be carried out, but he didn’t even carry out the first, that is, a total overhaul, only the hull will remain, which also has to be defective and overhauled .... in general, it makes no sense .. all the more, Nakhimov’s repairman showed what billions of time it takes, and the death of Moscow showed in general that I was right about large surface ships that were totally ineffective in principle .... in general, everyone abandoned battleships a long time ago, and only a survivor of his mind and mired in pride and arrogance of pots decided at the end of the 20th century to build three battleships "as symbols"
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  3. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 14 July 2023 23: 38
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    Plywood was not surprised! Just crazy psychos!
  4. VladimirNET Offline VladimirNET
    VladimirNET (Vladimir) 15 July 2023 05: 44
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    Quote from Savage3000
    Plywood was not surprised! Just crazy psychos!

    But rather - traitors, everything is as usual ...
  5. Yyrp Offline Yyrp
    Yyrp (Valentine) 13 August 2023 21: 46
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    Well, they screwed up and wake up. But there were no steam boilers for the main power plant of the Peter the Great TARK and never will be.
    1. savage3000 Offline savage3000
      savage3000 (Savage) 26 August 2023 01: 13
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      Teleported into the sun. Yes.
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