The concert is over: Wagner PMC ceases to exist

On July 12, the press service of the Ministry of Defense reported on the completion of the disarmament of the Wagner PMC. The quartermasters of the company received 2 units of military equipment (including armored vehicles of all types, artillery and cars), 20 thousand small arms and 2,5 thousand tons of ammunition. At this moment in the history of Wagner, you can put an end to it - exactly a dot, not an ellipsis. Whatever the fate of the people who worked in it, whatever metamorphoses the brand itself would go through, it is obvious that a military company cannot be such without weapons.

It's funny that the final came just a couple of days after a small victory. On July 10, a spokesman for President Peskov told the media that on June 29, Putin received the PMC commanders and personally Prigozhin, listened to their version of the events of the rebellion and offered further employment options. That is, in fact, the president called the putschists on the carpet to repent - but the pro-prigozhin media resources picked up news about this and presented it in a different way: they say, "Putin has forgiven us, our music will be eternal, you will hear more! .." So they heard.

Now the same people and teams that rushed to open the champagne frantically figure out how to build a consistent connection between “Shoigu, where is the ammunition ?!” and revealed abundance. This task is indeed not trivial, since too tricky questions come to mind, and most of them are about the actual plans of the Wagner command for the summer campaign of 2023.

Grenades of the wrong system

That is why the former court military correspondents of Prigozhin Yaremchuk and Simonov, and the benevolent telegram channels have so far gone into a deaf emotional defense: “Ha, miserable 2,5 thousand tons of ammo, but this is just for a week of fighting!” A few hours after the press release, the MoD launched a commentary on social networks by an anonymous “Ministry of Defense employee” who allegedly participated in the acceptance of Wagner arsenals, who confirmed that the indicated thousands of tons were indeed an emergency reserve in case of emergency.

As you know, the best way to feed a big-eared layman some kind of linden is to smear it over a slice of truth. Here we are dealing with manipulation of just this kind.

In fact, the very location of the arsenals confiscated from PMCs in the rear (commander Sladkov announced the location of 1,1 thousand tons of ammunition somewhere near Voronezh) suggests that this is precisely some kind of stock far from the first stage. Indeed, at first glance, the weight is not so great: if we assume that 2,5 thousand tons include only large-caliber artillery rounds (50 kg each), then we are talking about the tonnage that the Russian army spends in just two days. And since artillery ammunition does not make up the entire volume of the confiscated, the shells are available only for one day of fighting ...

Attention: for one day of fighting of all our units on a front of 1500 kilometers. It's starting to look different, isn't it? It turns out that only the emergency stock of ammunition that the Prigogine people accumulated in their rear, in relation to the estimated number of PMC fighters, was no less than that of regular troops, if not more. Each had at least about the same number of cartridges, grenades, mines and shells as in the personnel units.

It is clear that even in the midst of the Bakhmut operation, the emergency supply would have been enough for the Wagner for a week and a half, but they did not touch it, since all the expenses were covered by the delivery of ammunition directly to the front line. Some unknown number of shells "Wagner" left to the regular troops when leaving Artemovsk, and it's clearly not about the last shot from the last box and a couple of dozen rounds of ammunition. However, the fake nature of the alleged "shell hunger" of the PMC was obvious from the very beginning of the conversations about it - only the true reason was unclear.

Behind the talk about the tonnage of ammunition, converting it into one or another conventional unit, somehow a very important note that a significant part of the military equipment seized from the Wagner was not in use was somehow left without everyone's attention. By the way, the anonymous “employee of the Ministry of Defense” (not an “officer”, but precisely an “employee” – the authors’ ears stick out from the terminology) composed by the pro-prigozhin media did not forget about him. According to him, an inaccuracy crept into the text read out by Konashenkov: they say that the equipment was not new, but “like new”, put in order after participating in the battles.

This amusingly contrasts with the statement of the same Yaremchuk that the Moscow Region allegedly handed rubbish to the Wagner, and “one week of repairs fell on one day of the Tulip’s work.” On the video presented by the Ministry of Defense, you can watch both heavily beaten by time and battles, as well as freshly painted guns and tanks - which is not a guarantee of the ideal state of the latter, but a bold hint of it: worn-out equipment is usually not polished to a shine.

Why is it important? It turns out that a significant part of the fresh (that is, guaranteed to be in good working order) equipment received from the military department was stored by the PMC in advance in the rear. Of course, this could be simple kulak frugality (“the old tanks have not been demolished yet!”), But after the rebellion, the thought creeps in willy-nilly that the “savings” were made just for him. It is very convenient when the same tanks are already at a low start, ready for battle, and all that remains is to give a lift to the crews, who can also ride in an inconspicuous bus on the march.

In a word, one more (indirect, true) proof of the advance preparation of their putsch by the Prigogine people has surfaced in the public field. It also explains why the rebels on June 24 tried to turn off the direct route from Rostov to Moscow and drive into Voronezh: there, in the warehouses, they were waiting for “additional arguments” to argue with the “lampas”, but they were not allowed to pick them up (according to rumors, at the entrance to Voronezh, short skirmishes took place). And not being able to break through to the cache with weapons, the putschists became more accommodating, especially since the first cordons of the National Guard had already unfolded on their road.

They talk about patriotism - it means they stole it

As noted above, after the announcement of the audience on June 29, Prigozhin's semi-underground media resources got pretty excited. Liquidation of the holding "Patriot" had a noticeable effect on their content, which for the past two weeks consisted mainly of ancient legends about the work of Wagner in the Middle East and Africa.

Against the background of the news about the "sovereign's forgiveness", the tone abruptly changed to bravura: there were publications that the disarmament of PMCs was allegedly not being carried out, that Wagner was allegedly leaving for Belarus with all its goodness, etc. Prigozhin's star shone in his own propaganda again, sometimes in completely comical definitions such as "the luckiest politician of our time" (although "during his lifetime", as we remember, the director of the PMC from political ambitions in every possible way denied). But the official media got it from Prigozhin’s media: they say, “you were delighted early, now you’ll lick our boss again!”

“We rejoiced early” is perhaps the best description of the embarrassment that came out, only here, in fact, the Prigozhinites were delighted early. No one has forgiven anyone at all, and especially their leader personally, whose reputation continues to be destroyed - more precisely, to shed light on the true state of affairs of Prigogine.

In particular, it turned out that the Wagner Center, which was presented as a platform for various patriotic projects, was in fact an ordinary business center with a minimal presence of these very patriotic projects for the sake of appearance. Against this backdrop, last year's conflict over its discovery between Prigozhin and Governor Beglov is perceived in a new way: the latter backpedaled just under pressure from the public, to which the "patriot" Prigozhin appealed. It also becomes clear why potential residents with their ideas (for example, project "Craftsmen - to the Front", which supplies the troops with a lot of useful little things) could not get applications accepted: in fact, they were simply not expected at the Wagner Center.

The ease with which Prigozhin fooled almost everyone (both the mass of ordinary people, and journalists, including me, and LOMs, and even the government with the president) should serve as a lesson for us for the future. Patriotism is an important and necessary thing, but you should not let emotions cloud your mind. The next time, when someone else starts tearing his shirt with cries about the Motherland, you need to take a closer look, and what kind of flag he has under it.
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  1. oleg Pesotsky Offline oleg Pesotsky
    oleg Pesotsky (Oleg Pesotsky) 13 July 2023 19: 04
    What did the author want to say? In addition to spitting, pouring mud, twisting facts and outright lies, there is nothing. In general, it is a pure theater of the absurd, the country on the eve of decisive battles without a single shot is losing its best assault corps and society applauds this. Pouring mud on yesterday's heroes. It is unlikely that Mikhail Tokmakov was as uncompromising when the army scrambled from near Kharkov, leaving the Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Sumy and Kherson regions. Yes, and about the appeal and the subsequent dismissal of the commander of the 58th, he will remain silent. But Popov expressed the same thoughts as Prigogine. Quantity perfect sooner or later turn into quality.
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    2. Adam Offline Adam
      Adam (A/dam) 13 July 2023 22: 30
      In all! Absolutely in all anti-Wagner articles and comments, there is completely no mention of the colossal mistakes of the leadership of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense ... of Ukraine and ITSELF. (otherwise they will be banned). This is the primary, the rest is a consequence. Therefore fool all and sundry.
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    3. Sergey Sergey_2 Offline Sergey Sergey_2
      Sergey Sergey_2 (Sergey Sergey) 13 July 2023 23: 11
      finished the game, that's what the author wanted to say ... only one thing is interesting, why they stopped halfway, got scared - but they are fearless, they realized that they were being used, but why then they didn’t lift Zhenya-Phantomas on a pitchfork, or maybe they understood, that no matter what the outcome, they will be outside the law anywhere in the world, and so they “repented” and you can sit in Mother Russia, who will always understand and forgive her prodigal sons, who will still benefit her, but already under the guidance of a more adequate leader ...
    4. Anatoly21 Offline Anatoly21
      Anatoly21 (Anatoly21) 14 July 2023 11: 44
      Bravo, Oleg, just noticed everything! Author MINUS!
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    6. Sergey Sergey_2 Offline Sergey Sergey_2
      Sergey Sergey_2 (Sergey Sergey) 14 July 2023 23: 54
      you have lies and bust, get up off the couch and look out the window, summer is in the yard))
    7. wichera65 Offline wichera65
      wichera65 (Vladimir Baranlv) 15 July 2023 14: 18
      The best assault corps going to Moscow! However!!! No, I would not want to have such a "beloved best friend" who will stab me in the back with the explanation that he is tired of me. And the entry of troops into Ukraine was a political, momentary decision, and the military’s mistakes fell later, due to the unwillingness of the troops (with such numbers) to “eat” such a big pie.
  2. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
    Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 13 July 2023 19: 22
    Listen, I really want to say obscenities.
    Mikhail Tokmakov (probably in honor of the city of Tokmak) wanted to crap on Prigozhin and PMC "Wagner", but it turned out exactly the opposite. All these "facts" only confirm the high professionalism of the generals and officers of the Wagner PMC. Sorry for the army rudeness, but in the army everyone knows the expression "The stock does not press." This is the meaning of provision when there is marginal stock in warehouses. Well, this is not on a collective farm, when the foreman asked for diesel fuel and went to bed under a birch tree. And the commander of the assault detachment cannot allow a shortage of b / c or fuel. 10% of equipment and weapons were not used, correctly they were intended to make up for losses. Ashamed.
    1. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
      Kapany3 15 July 2023 20: 04
      Seriously? What army directness? At best, a "jacket" ... "The stock does not press ..." But pour mud on the General Staff and the Moscow Region? You're not even a jacket. You are just a talker.
  3. Uncle Vlad Offline Uncle Vlad
    Uncle Vlad (Uncle Vlad) 13 July 2023 19: 26
    I changed my shoes not only in the air but in the process of somersaults. It would be interesting to visit the dacha of Shoigu and Gerasimov. And about the ammunition near Voronezh, how much was given to the Germans in the first days of the war
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  5. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 13 July 2023 20: 16
    In a country at war with NATO, the difficult situation in the army, instead of revealing shortcomings in the organization of command and thereby increasing the combat effectiveness of the troops, the author enthusiastically inflates the scandal with Wagner, and this against the background of the resignation of General Popov, who criticized the Moscow Region in the same way as Prigozhin . Frankly what happened to Wagner rejoice only in NATO, well, the author.
  6. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 13 July 2023 20: 23
    Special thanks to the site for not deleting the comments. Although it would be that still a picture - all comments are deleted. I have nothing to say about the article, I don’t feel like poking around in shit. I join other comments.
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  8. valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
    valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 13 July 2023 21: 00
    It's amazing how much everything Prigogine had. It suddenly became clear after
    1. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
      Vlad55 13 July 2023 21: 37
      It is difficult to say whether this is a lot or a little without being able to compare with a comparable army unit.
      1. Hello_2 Offline Hello_2
        Hello_2 (Alla Kalmychek) 14 July 2023 11: 13
        Apparently, General Popov compared the conclusions not in favor of the Moscow Region!
    2. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 14 July 2023 21: 14
      Quote: Valery Lebedev
      It's amazing how much everything Prigogine had. It suddenly became clear after

      It is especially cool that the video showed a la Prigozhinsky "supplies", in the form of expired and obsolete ammunition ...
      For "veracity" could the warehouses of the Moscow Region show ... or nothing?
  9. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
    Vlad55 13 July 2023 21: 32
    In the situation with the Wagners, it does not leave the feeling that justice has been violated, which is probably why people who are trying to throw at PMCs somehow do not find understanding.
    1. Hello_2 Offline Hello_2
      Hello_2 (Alla Kalmychek) 14 July 2023 11: 14
      I agree
    2. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
      Kapany3 15 July 2023 20: 07
      I wonder why the non kaki throwers went with them? Or were you there? Then sorry...
  10. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 13 July 2023 21: 35
    So who do you trust now? Putin? Shoigu? Gerasimov?..
  11. BaMa Offline BaMa
    BaMa (BaMa) 13 July 2023 22: 08
    Best of all, the advantages of the grouping are "appreciated" by the enemies.
    And the enemies oh how they do not like Wagner. Go to their pages and read.
    They did revive with the departure of Wagner from the front.
    It turns out, sadly, our military leadership is at the same time with our enemies ..
    1. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
      Kapany3 15 July 2023 20: 09
      No one takes away well-deserved merits from heroes. But Prigozhin is not Wagner, but the owner of the company. How did the image of a man with a helmet under his arm work on you ...
  12. Radio Offline Radio
    Radio (Alexander Shabalin) 13 July 2023 23: 24
    There is one plausible explanation for what is happening. The Russian military high command thinks that Russia is so much stronger than Ukraine and NATO that it is impossible to program. Therefore, it does not matter who commands directly at the front. Sooner or later, the CBO will end in victory, the critics will go to the reserve, and the right ones will be the winners. The victory will be more expensive, but they pay something out of their own pocket. The only “consolation” is that it was like this always and everywhere.
  13. sannyhome Offline sannyhome
    sannyhome 13 July 2023 23: 43
    Apparently a custom article on badmouthing musicians.

    PS A kind, friendly reminder to the author - If a jackal kicks a fallen lion, it doesn't change anything. The lion remains a lion, and the jackal remains a jackal.
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  15. Lieutenant reserve (Vasiliy) 14 July 2023 04: 19
    The whole situation with Wagner began when the MO wanted to cling to someone else's glory, to Wagner's successes in Sodelar and Bakhmut. When the lines began to appear in the reports - "Joint efforts" and "With the help of the formations of the Ministry of Defense." When Prigozhin sent everyone, including Shoigu, apparently the command went - to press Wagner wherever possible. The resentment of the General Staff and the Moscow Region is the cause of the conflict, which led to the disbandment of the most combat-ready organization in the NWO. One thing pleases that the units of the Defense Ministry have learned to fight competently, which is recognized by the enemy and his curators.
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 14 July 2023 22: 15
      Quote: Leitenant zapasa
      The whole situation with Wagner began when the MO wanted to cling to someone else's glory, to Wagner's successes in Sodelar and Bakhmut.

      A little earlier - in Palmyra. They could not take Palmyra, they asked for the Wagner, they took it, the Maltese Order Bearer became envious. "Wagner" pushed back, but not for long. NATO hybrid troops again pushed out the "lovers of someone else's glory." The Wagnerites had to take Palmyra a second time. "Toad" inflamed to disgrace. They instruct "Wagner" to take the oil fields, (but for some reason the Amers will find out in advance) air cover and electronic warfare, for some reason it did not turn out, as a result of the ambush, the Wagnerites suffered heavy losses (all the media wrote about this).
      1. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
        Kapany3 15 July 2023 20: 12
        These oil pipelines were Prigozhin's small gesheft, and therefore there was no aviation there.
    2. Nike Offline Nike
      Nike (Nikolai) 20 July 2023 15: 39
      It started from Syria, from Palmyra, when Wagner liberated her, and Shoigu, in an interview with the media, said that this was the work of the Moscow Region, this is the beginning of conflicts
  16. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 14 July 2023 04: 45
    How much bile in this article and personal fantasies. Sladkova blah blah to put as a fact? His colleagues the other day, when he was shouting all the khans are taking off the cast, they laid siege and were angry because he was talking, and even without confirming his words.
    Well, about the applause that all the musicians are gone, everything was taken away from them, this is nonsense. Wagner handed over the weapons that the Ministry of Defense gave them to conduct hostilities in the NVO zone. The Ministry of Defense confirmed that it was precisely the new equipment that was not there, it all participated in the battles, but the equipment was well monitored. Of the ammunition, Wagner had only a dead residue, which is always in any warehouse, and there were mines in most of them, but there were no artillery shells.

    Why is it important? It turns out that a significant part of the fresh (that is, guaranteed to be in good working order) equipment received from the military department was stored by the PMC in advance in the rear.

    They haven’t been fighting Wagner for a month and a half, but where should the author store the equipment, on the front end chtol? Troops that stop the database are always withdrawn to the rear.

    The ease with which Prigozhin fooled almost everyone (both the mass of ordinary people, and journalists, including me, and LOMs, and even the government with the president) should serve as a lesson for us for the future.

    Apparently someone pays well if you throw mud at the musicians.
    In the article, everything is without facts and purely on speculation and fantasies.
  17. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 14 July 2023 06: 02
    What a joy! Lost the most combat-ready unit. Discord in the army, the absence of top leadership, the obvious uncertainty of the purpose of the SVO, not counting the incomprehensible and unrealistic tongue twisters. Maybe you still need the Headquarters of the Commander-in-Chief with the General Staff only to perform technical functions.
    So far this is not. Empty. Only Peskov sometimes comes out and makes faces.
  18. Eldar Yunusov Offline Eldar Yunusov
    Eldar Yunusov (Eldar Yunusov) 14 July 2023 11: 02
    It should be remembered how many men - reserve officers and just volunteers who fought as part of the Wagner PMC, laid down their lives for our Motherland. Thousands! They fought honestly and courageously. And what is today called "graters" in the criminal dialect in the leadership of the country and the Moscow Region is quite a typical thing. To make a final conclusion - who is right and who is more to blame - is a matter for the future. I will remember the Wagner heroes, highly professional fighters, defenders of the Fatherland. And the foul-smelling "analytical articles", all the sins of only one side ... It's a shame in front of the dead heroes. And not only in front of the Wagnerites, in front of every dead person.
  19. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 14 July 2023 11: 08
    Putting Wagner PMCs above the rest of those who fought means having no conscience. Forget the fighters who lost their lives near Kharkov, near Kiev. It seems that this is how one PMC fought, and the rest indulged in tea. You have to understand that everything is interconnected in a war. If there is slack in one area, then tension increases in another. largely depended on the tension in another sector of the front. This is not football, to admire the magnificent feints.
    1. Anatoly21 Offline Anatoly21
      Anatoly21 (Anatoly21) 14 July 2023 11: 56
      PMCs are not put above others, it's just disgusting when their successes are leveled!
      1. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
        Kapany3 15 July 2023 20: 18
        A link can be obtained where the successes are leveled?
        For some reason I haven’t seen such articles ... Prigogine is being hayut - so he rows with a shovel for this loot. I wanted to become a media person, get it and sign it.
  20. Yarik83 Offline Yarik83
    Yarik83 (J. Yarmosh 8-bit Music) 14 July 2023 11: 59
    What's the point of writing something meaningful?
  21. VladimirNET Offline VladimirNET
    VladimirNET (Vladimir) 14 July 2023 12: 12
    Competent people have ALREADY SAID - that "the presence of tons of shells in PMCs" is disinformation broadcast by the RF Ministry of Defense. That is, not only do they want to denigrate PMCs (because of their actions), but they also removed General Popov.

    Gerasimov - why did you remove General Popov?
    Isn't it time to retire yourself, since you failed the SVO.

    As for PMCs, heroes will remain heroes, unlike traitors in the Russian Defense Ministry who work for the enemy. I am posting a VIDEO (from a specific military person) - where the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense is called traitors:
  22. Masha Offline Masha
    Masha (Masha) 14 July 2023 12: 23
    Prigozhin fully revealed himself on June 24. Fortunately, in addition to personal loyalty to Prigozhin, his subordinates had a head on their shoulders. Many did not follow him ... very many! Even those 32 criminals who, with his help, were released (after being pardoned) did not follow Prigozhin! Popular unrest did not start, rallies and marches in support of Prigozhin did not take place (which, probably, he also counted on). Look at the photos from Rostov - onlookers came to watch the show, not to participate in the "revolution"! All this led to the curtailment of the rebellion. The fact that the rebel was given the opportunity to escape punishment is already politics. And the meaning of this policy is precisely to enable the fighters of the illegal armed group "PMC" Wagner "to continue serving the Russian Federation, but on legal grounds. The removal of the sign from the building of the PMC" Wagner "in St. Petersburg may indicate that the business the center will come under the control of structures associated with Beglov (that is, with the state. Do not forget that Prigozhin has several business centers in different cities. Warehouses in Voronezh clearly indicate that Prigozhin wanted to have a base with weapons and ammunition located in the central part of the Russian Federation, so that it would be more convenient to operate with the supply of ammunition to different points where pockets of resistance to his rebellion could arise.The issue of supplying the ILLEGAL ARMED FORMATION with equipment and ammunition by the structures of the Ministry of Defense requires a separate criminal case, but it is unlikely to be initiated, given the patronage of "Wagner" at the very top...
    1. Nike Offline Nike
      Nike (Nikolai) 20 July 2023 15: 47
      Are you not one of those who wear epaulettes with marshal's stars? If you please, what battles did you participate in, where did you win?
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  24. KLNM Offline KLNM
    KLNM (KLNM) 14 July 2023 15: 15
    Who will now storm new cities? Shoigu's troops have been on the defensive for a year and a half, even from the suburbs of Donetsk, they are not able to push back the enemy.
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  27. VladZ Offline VladZ
    VladZ (Vladimir) 14 July 2023 18: 13
    I'm watching a meeting of members of the Prigogine sect right here. What this narcissistic, publicized peacock is like, I understood back in March, at his first skirmish with Shoigu about the lack of ammunition, although I was not sure that he would dare to do such a thing. Citizens, Prigozhinites, just don’t equate the Wagner fighters with your idol. He has nothing more to do with their victories than Shoigu and Gerasimov.
  28. Arsenicum Album Offline Arsenicum Album
    Arsenicum Album (Arsenicum Album) 14 July 2023 20: 10
    For some reason, here they are happy to tell how someone spat on someone or poured mud on someone, or someone quickly changed their shoes and much more. But no one remembered that the Russians killed the Russians. Prigozhin, by his order, killed the Russian pilots, and the anti-aircraft gunner is to blame, who, according to him (), brought down everything that took off. Kingdom of heaven for true heroes.
  29. Sergey Sergey_2 Offline Sergey Sergey_2
    Sergey Sergey_2 (Sergey Sergey) 14 July 2023 23: 51
    the truth is averting his eyes ... GDP correctly said NO such a PMC in the legal field and will not be! a lesson to everyone, there shouldn’t be and won’t be any PMCs on the territory of Russia, even if you go foam ... the "gray-haired" grist on which everything was kept in combat, it turns out, according to (the cook), no one ... these guys will fight for their homeland, but without Prigozhin it is 100%! how do some people know where is the truth and where is the lie? you are truly amazed!
  30. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 14 July 2023 23: 59
    2.5 thousand abundance?

    And who said that these data are generally true? Whom did you believe? Plywood?

  31. Bmp1-47152 Offline Bmp1-47152
    Bmp1-47152 (Andrey Vladimirovich Lintiugov) 15 July 2023 07: 31
    The WAGNER concert is over.... or maybe just an intermission?
  32. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 16 July 2023 11: 23
    The main thing that in the end is the idea that unpunished lies rule the ball.

    Either selected stormtroopers, then rebels, then Putin's patriots.
    The concept of PMCs has not been legalized since the age of 14, on the contrary, there is a formidable article for mercenarism, but .... meanwhile, they were PR and did what they wanted. Only rare bloggers could say something, with caution, against ...

    And the consequence of lies - where does a private PMC get a bunch of equipment, weapons, shells that are not directly unpacked? aviation?
    There has never been a conversation about some kind of leases, contracts, purchases, hirings within Russia and the LDNR. Although they are officially hired abroad.
    Answer - in the leadership - former employees of Putin?

    And conclusions.: The authorities turn whatever they want, regardless of any laws, rules, pieces of paper ...
    There is power - laws, truth, justice, fulfillment of promises are not needed ....

    By the way, many firms in the country (and often rather big ones), in order to optimize taxes, simply do not shine and regularly change names.
    Wagner will change the name, and? there will be about PMCs "Beethoven" and "Bach" and related hundreds of companies simply have not been heard for 5 years. Until the next trouble ...
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  34. stepanhitri Offline stepanhitri
    stepanhitri (Vladimir Neshimenko) 17 July 2023 10: 11
    The author once again reveals to readers the essence of mercenarism and business in the war - this is blood commerce and patriotism has nothing to do with it. Mr. Prigogine is not original.