How the Far East is preparing for the construction of a series of promising frigates


Against the backdrop of numerous negative News recent days, associated with an attempted military mutiny and the general difficult situation on the fronts, passed among them and one quite positive. In the Far East, the process of modernization of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant is steadily continuing, which will directly affect the overall defense capability of our country.


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On June 30, 2023, at the Amur Shipbuilding Plant, which is part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, the launching dock pontoon of project 65911 was laid down, which, according to the results of the competition, was chosen and given the name "Amurets". Why is this event, which took place in the Far-Far East, so important?

General Director of ASZ Mikhail Borovsky commented on laying the pontoon dock as follows:

The dock pontoon is designed to build, launch and launch future ships of even larger displacement. Everyone is well aware that today we are fighting for the next orders - for the construction of a series of frigates. It is this pontoon dock that will allow us to accomplish this task.

Indeed, after the nearly completed Provorny corvette burned down right at the Severnaya Verf pier in St. Petersburg, serious questions arose even in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation about the management of this enterprise and the deadlines for fulfilling the state defense order. It became quite obvious that at least part of the series of promising frigates of project 22350 / 22350M needs to be placed on some other site, but which one? Only a few factories in Russia are capable of building ships of the 1st rank with a total displacement of 6000 to 9000 thousand tons. In addition to the "Northern shipyard" we can recall the Kaliningrad "Yantar". However, the production of a series of large landing ships has been launched there, which, as the “workhorses” of the navy, are needed no less than frigates, and the construction of modern warships in a territorial exclave surrounded on all sides by NATO countries is currently not entirely advisable.

And that's why officials in uniform finally remembered the Amur Shipbuilding Plant, which is located far from both the North Atlantic Alliance and Ukraine. The only problem with it was that the capacities of this Far Eastern enterprise made it possible to lay ships of relatively modest displacement: small missile ships of project 22800 "Karakurt", corvettes of project 20380 and corvettes of the updated project 20385. ASZ General Director Vladimir Kulakov, expecting to replenish the package of orders with them, calculated until 22350:

And it will be supplemented in a good way by new orders from the Ministry of Defense, which we will have to start implementing in 2024 - a series of frigates of project 22350 and 22350M. However, already in 2022 there is an opportunity to start implementing this contract. […] We have two free construction sites to calmly lay down ships and start building them.

For the construction of a series of ships of the 1st rank, the Amur Shipbuilding Company had to take part in the Federal Target Program for the Modernization of the Enterprise, Kulakov explained:

Meanwhile, we are starting our participation in a new modernization program. Now a government decree is being prepared, in which the Amur Shipyard will be designated by three projects. Firstly, the construction of a new transport-launching dock, instead of the Zeya TSD that had fallen into disrepair. The second project is the construction of a new dock pontoon. The third major project of the near future is the modernization and development of the delivery base in Vladivostok.

So, the project 65911 launch docking pontoon is intended to replace the Zeya TSD. Despite the sanctions and other troubles, the management of the NEA continues to modernize its enterprise, hoping to sign a contract for six promising frigates by the end of 2023, and this is very important.

DMZ


Today, when Russia is engaged in a heavy land war in the western direction, calls can be heard to stop throwing money away on a supposedly unnecessary navy. However, this setup is fundamentally wrong, and here's why. Not everyone understands, but the most terrible threat to our country comes from the sea, or rather, from under the water.

We are talking about American and British nuclear submarines equipped with strategic nuclear warheads capable of destroying protected silo-based ICBMs and demolishing entire civilian cities. The main advantage of such SSBNs lies precisely in their stealth, and the recent deployment of five of six such American submarines in the Atlantic Ocean against the backdrop of the Wagner PMC mutiny was an extremely alarming sign that signaled about the possibility of the Pentagon using nuclear weapons with the aim of delivering a preventive disarming strike against the objects of the Russian "nuclear triad", if the militarypolitical the leadership of the country as a result of the rebellion was neutralized.

Since about 40% of the total power of a retaliatory nuclear strike that Moscow could inflict is tied to just a few domestic SSBNs of the Northern and Pacific fleets, the need for the safe deployment of Russian nuclear submarines in combat patrol areas is of critical importance. To cover the underwater Marine component of the "nuclear triad", specialized surface ships are needed, among other things. In the near sea zone, these are PLO corvettes, as well as small PLO corvettes, which we do not have, but they could be made on the basis of project 22800 Karakurt RTOs, which we will discuss in detail told earlier.

In the far sea and ocean zones of the Russian Navy, ships of the 1st rank of the frigate and destroyer class are needed, but so far the cat has wept for them. Now the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is hastily modernizing the old Soviet BOD project 1151 / 1151.1, but they can serve for another 10-15 years, at best. We need a planned replacement with modern multi-purpose ships capable of operating in the far sea and ocean zones, and project 22350 / 22350M is best suited for this role. In the 22350M version with increased displacement, the Super Gorshkov has every chance of becoming a real multipurpose warship, which will become the "workhorse" of the Russian Navy in the DMZ and will be able to perform the widest range of tasks.

The fact that, in addition to Severnaya Verf, NEA will also be involved in the construction of the series gives reason to expect the program to be implemented within a reasonable time frame.
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  1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 1 July 2023 13: 45
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    There is no point in commenting on the article. There are only five cruisers, the state is not estimated. The cruiser Moskva is sunk. What will be built and why is a mystery to everyone.
    1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 1 July 2023 15: 54
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      Why is a mystery even for those who build and for those who order. But since the budget has been allocated, it will not master itself, so it is necessary to build.
      1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
        vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 1 July 2023 16: 20
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        Appointment. Frigate - a warship with a displacement of 3000 ... 6000 tons, equipped with guided missile weapons. The main purpose is to fight against air and underwater enemies while escorting the main forces of the fleet and especially important convoys, and protecting approaches to ports.
        The war in Iraq, the Falklands war showed that any modern frigate is an incapable trough pretending to be a warship.
        For the past 20 years, the Yankees have been building only large Orly Burke-class Aegis destroyers. They have already been riveted to 62 pieces - more than frigates in all countries of the world combined. It's written by professionals.
        The Russian Federation is building what it can. The Russian Federation cannot build a cruiser of the First Rank, it was the USSR that could build an aircraft carrier.
        1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 1 July 2023 19: 06
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          you quote nonsense and draw conclusions from this nonsense, naturally false ... again nonsense about the ephemeral projection of force and the protection of approaches to ports .... honestly, I’m even tired of explaining that the surface fleet is unable to provide any "projection of force" against a serious enemy, and when people write "power projection" (or without using this term they think about cruisers, aircraft carriers and destroyers), they themselves do not understand what it means, but it does not mean anything at all, just empty words, but not only profane, but also admirals ( former commander-in-chief of the Black Sea Fleet) they think so, showing their stupidity, and destroying the cruiser Moscow ... firstly, a surface ship is just a target for missiles, a practically defenseless victim, because it’s visible .... now such a war, they saw you, it means they died, because missiles and a lot of them. thus, nuclear submarines and non-nuclear submarines became the basis of the fleet, the surface fleet, only a means of ensuring their combat stability, and exclusively under the umbrella of their coastal air defense, and the airborne forces, that is, the range of the surface fleet is 1000-2000 km from Peropavlovsk Kamchatsky and Murmansk, the task of the fleet is PMO and PLO in these two areas, that’s all, this is a task just for frigates of corvettes and minesweepers, the surface fleet is not needed anywhere else and is unsafe in wartime, while in peacetime, a corvette and a frigate and a minesweeper will also suffice to protect fishing navigation. This means that we do not need any super-pots, and even more so new destroyers, cruisers. And even more so, we do not need the terrible defenseless bulky funny Kuzya, to sell him to China, who has tasks for him, and escort ships. However, inert admirals keep corvettes, frigates, a destroyer and a cruiser in closed seas, where they are useless and vulnerable .... what about ports, the fleet has never been able to protect them, because coastal batteries have always outperformed ships
          1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
            vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 1 July 2023 21: 03
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            Why is China building a fleet?
            1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2023 08: 20
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              the population of the PRC, 1,412 billion (2021) with rather modest minerals, therefore the PRC is critically dependent on Export and Import, having an industry intended for the whole world, the potential of the PRC requires the protection of interests in Africa, Asia and South America, therefore they need aircraft carriers and a large fleet, Russia’s potential, 143,4 million people (2021), 1000 times less than China’s, the Russian Federation is unable to provide any interests in Asia, Africa and South America, pinpoint attempts in Syria do not count, therefore Russia cannot and does not need large ocean fleet except nuclear submarines
              1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
                Sergey3939 (Sergei) 2 July 2023 11: 39
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                You have an error with arithmetic and your theoretical calculations are also wrong!
                1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                  Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2023 19: 16
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                  Quote: Sergey3939
                  wrong!

                  you are not able to formulate and motivate your words, you are our arithmetic, you have empty slogans, an attempt to hide your weakness of thought and the weakness of your position .... I can say that you stumble at least ten times, because you do not have a clear ability to do something logically write, in addition to children's chants, "error error error", you have no facts or arguments ..... weak young man
                  1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
                    Sergey3939 (Sergei) 3 July 2023 12: 13
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                    Vladimir! You do not know how many years I have been talking nonsense, learn to respect other people's opinions and learn to take a hit. Your opinion is losing. No need to tell me fairy tales, a Navy officer who gave the fleet 20 years.
                    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 3 July 2023 23: 01
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                      I know how to take a hit, which you will see now, I cannot and am not going to respect your opinion, because this is your personal opinion, which is not reasoned and has no logic, that is, just a personal opinion and I am not interested in personal opinions if they are not argumentative and do not have logic, and I already wrote this to you in the previous post, you could not read it, I am writing to you again is an argument this is subjective, ,. I expect from you an objective motivation for your position, until I heard, just like I didn’t hear your position at all, except for the baseless slogan that I’m wrong. what is wrong? all in the fog
                  2. savage3000 Offline savage3000
                    savage3000 (Savage) 2 August 2023 15: 30
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                    Your slogans are empty. Russia is critically dependent on the EXPORT of raw materials and food. Russia has interests in Africa and other countries. And they need to be provided. Other, enemy countries, have a fleet. And not alone. He needs to resist!

                    Stop talking nonsense!
        2. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
          Sergey3939 (Sergei) 2 July 2023 11: 31
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          Poorly studied mat. Part. The Americans are starting construction of a new series of Constellation FFG(X) frigates. Remember how many frigates Oliver Perry was part of their fleet.
          The name of the destroyer and frigate is blurred. Almost the same displacement and the same composition of weapons and the same purpose.
          1. Anton Kuzmin Offline Anton Kuzmin
            Anton Kuzmin (Anton Kuzmin) 10 July 2023 11: 20
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            So they ordered last year! How is construction progressing? Is everything still at the level of the first cut of steel for the hull? Or is there already progress?
        3. savage3000 Offline savage3000
          savage3000 (Savage) 3 July 2023 03: 22
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          Nonsense. One Chinese has more than 40 frigates.
      2. prior Offline prior
        prior (Vlad) 2 July 2023 08: 43
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        There is no riddle.
        If budget money is allocated for something, there are always those who "sawing" it.
        The more allocated, the more significant the "kickbacks".
        We have no other way.
    2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 1 July 2023 19: 23
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      Sell ​​Kuzya, so as many as 4 cruisers, this is a lot, as volcanoes serve their time, then 1164 needs to be converted into a PLO frigate modernization of type 1155, but with very enhanced air defense, although I think they’ll just write off both within 6-10 years, but two 1144 casers will remain for 20 years to frighten adversaries in the Barents Sea, serving there as a PLO frigate
      1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
        Sergey3939 (Sergei) 2 July 2023 11: 35
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        You can't see beyond your nose. There are already three new frigates 22350 in the Northern Fleet.
        Read the shipbuilding program. See how many have been built and how many, more ships are on the stocks and how many are being upgraded. Do not forget about nuclear submarines and SSBNs.
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 2 July 2023 12: 00
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          "Vladimir1155" agrees with the comments, because weapons, especially the expensive navy, must have a purpose, as long as we see from the facts, even during the NWO the Black Sea Fleet is inactive and the ships are hidden in distant corners. They use long-range weapons (Caliber), they can be used from the Caspian Sea, even from the Baltic Fleet, why then ships of the first rank - to hide from long-range and high-precision weapons ?. Comparison with the United States, because they are overseas, otherwise they cannot approach and bring troops to remote theaters of operations, so they are forced to have a huge fleet - this is out of necessity. For the next half century, large military operations at a considerable distance are not foreseen for the Russian Federation, and after such a time a lot will change. Conclusions: today, a large tonnage surface navy, like dreadnoughts once, is losing its advantages with the development of hypersonic weapons and other means of destruction, the transition to a submarine and crewless fleet, as carriers of long-range precision weapons, is obvious. With the rapid development of high-precision and other weapons, the concepts and composition of the fleets should soon change radically
          1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
            vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 2 July 2023 17: 16
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            Alas, the secrecy of the Russian submarine fleet is also a fiction. You can read the capabilities of the submarine yourself, since it is full of inf. In your opinion, the Russian fleet is not needed. With regard to underwater drones, there are a lot of problems there. Navigation, design problems, pressure more than 400 Kg/cm2 (average ocean depth 4 km), than you will blow, the drone changes the depth. When you go to the shelf, he will be met there. There is only sound in the water, everything else is at the level of fantasy, there are also extra-long EMWs, but these are dozens of bits of inf. Up to 200 m, all submarines are visible from space and from aircraft. In a modern future war, everything is one-time, both a cruiser and a submarine, the main thing is to have time to shoot back, this applies to both the Russian Federation and NATO.
            1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2023 19: 02
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              Quote: vlad127490
              stealth of the Russian submarine fleet

              it’s really difficult to hide submarines in the Baltic, so I convinced Shoigu not to send new nuclear submarines to the Baltic Fleet, but to strengthen the Northern Fleet, but again you repeat the nonsense of the totalitarian destructive sect of aircraft carriers that I smashed to smithereens years ago, In an ocean 4 km deep, and wide Reaches a width of 17200 km, and with seas up to 20 km in low latitudes. The warmest - for a whole year the temperature here does not fall below 000 C. About half of the area of ​​​​the entire World Ocean (20%) and a third of the entire surface of the globe. so here the nuclear submarines are not visible not only in space, but are not even detected by other means, it is not necessary to go to the shelf to strike nuclear submarines, and in the north nuclear submarines are generally hidden under the ice and are not detected before they deliver their strikes, after the strikes they are also not detected because they immediately go into the depths and to the side, the only weak point of the submarines is the Barents Sea and the coastal regions of Kamchatka, our traitor admirals keep useless destroyer and suicide cruiser frigates on closed seas so that the enemies destroy them like the Moscow cruiser, although after my statements, they really reinforced Kamchatka with two corvettes with three frigates in the Northern Fleet, but this is clearly not enough, there is ONE in Kamchatka !!! the PLO aircraft, and Yelizovo aviation in general, is weak, this is a crime and a betrayal of the admiralty, comparable to the Tsushima betrayal of Rozhestvensky, it is necessary to URGENTLY strengthen Kamchatka and the Northern Fleet at the expense of the Japanese Baltic Black and Caspian Seas, where useless ships cool off. For reference, the detection range of a modern submarine submerged in just a few miles, in a storm or just a wave, can drop to even lower values, even all American ships combined will not block the ocean, this refers both to the impossibility of blocking the ocean by enemies, and the impossibility of catching an enemy submarine grazing on the shelf of Kamchatka, with two corvettes and one aircraft, although the Avakyan was removed for this, because I wrote that the Kamchatka fleet is defenseless, but I don’t see an urgent transfer of the fleet from the Sea of ​​​​Japan to Kamchatka ...
              1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
                Sergey3939 (Sergei) 3 July 2023 12: 16
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                Yes! You Napoleon!
              2. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
                vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 3 July 2023 16: 49
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                I will not give and evaluate your answer to my comment. Thanks for the answer. If you write about the merits of submarines, but I do not indicate which ones, then you must know noise levels, know passive and active means of detecting submarines, know the physical properties of water, seas and oceans, know maritime geography, know the topology of the seabed. In the sound channel, the nuclear submarine is visible at a distance of 1000 km, although the smart ones try not to go there. It is also possible to launch a missile at the United States from the nuclear submarine from the adjacent waters of Antarctica, but it is better from the Caribbean Sea. I never wrote about aircraft carriers, this is not for me. On the topic of the article. The Russian Federation needs cruisers, ships of the First Rank. In fact, consider that the Russian Federation does not have them, what are three pieces. out of five.
                1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                  Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 3 July 2023 23: 12
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                  I respect your knowledge of technological PLO (if any), but for all of the above, I did not see the opportunity to find nuclear submarines in the open ocean, .. about cruisers, I also did not understand why we need these surface cruisers? to rot like Moscow? or like the battleship Yamato? you didn’t give any arguments at all, you don’t want to argue, well, you see the weakness of your position, probably ?, well, you don’t have to argue your right ... about your sound channels 1000 km away, "Black Hole": how the most silent submarine was created in the USSR world .https://rg.ru/2020/09/12/chernaia-dyra-kak-v-sssr-sozdali-samuiu-besshumnuiu-podlodku-v-mire.html ... .you have a typo, probably not Antarctica, but the Arctic, this or that signal received by the receiver, have a frequency amplitude, and the range is not large, the sea is noisy, and satellites when searching for nuclear submarines are just ripples on the water, there are ripples and the satellite is blind, a lot of noise in the ocean of changes is difficult to filter out, not to find an apple there is like a needle in a haystack
                  1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
                    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 4 July 2023 22: 35
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                    This is not the audience to discuss the performance characteristics of the submarine. Hydrology, sea sounds and much more. To help you understand the level of the discussion, try to answer the question for yourself. Why is everyone trying to make a crewless submarine ???
                    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 6 July 2023 00: 30
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                      I do not deny that it is possible to track down submarines under certain conditions, but I argue that in the open ocean it is still very difficult, almost impossible to find, although of course an unmanned submarine would be less expensive and losing it would not be as offensive as losing a submarine with a crew
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 11 July 2023 10: 41
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                        The fleet must be full-fledged ... and have ships of all classes, only then it is a fleet ... And Moscow and Yamato are not correct examples ... Moscow is an old ship that has not undergone modernization, which did not have the technical capability to intercept low-altitude targets. It was designed from the 70s of the last century, when there were no such low-flying missiles as today ... Yamato was sent into battle as a kamikaze ship ... with minimal cover, almost against the entire US fleet, with a predictable result ... If if the newest frigate 22350 died, or the modernized Marshal Ustinov, this would be a reason to think, and the case with Moscow only says that you need to save on Chubais and Abramovich, and not on the army and navy of the Russian Federation ...
                      2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 11 July 2023 19: 30
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        The fleet must be full-fledged ... and have ships of all classes, only then is it a fleet ..

                        the first phrase is correct, but you attached a completely empty, unsubstantiated and false phrase to it (a manpullative technique for creating a sequence of correct phrases and a false one to them), the fleet should not have ships of all classes for its usefulness, in reality the fleet should not have all classes of ships but those that are needed to perform specific tasks of a particular fdot. then you point out the conveniences of the Moscow and Yamato cruisers, list the difficulties of all the battleships and cruisers that ingloriously died in the REV PMV1 PMV2, WWII? maybe it’s not a specific situation, but is it a systemic problem of a large ship, because it’s big? ... after all, if Moscow were small, you wouldn’t remember that it would have been written off long ago, so the first drawback is the high price of a large ship and large expenses for Egt content and fear of writing off too soon? that's why Moscow sank, the flooding of large ships is a high price as a result of large Easters and a large number of ships, then this small number has to be modernized, there is no series, neither during construction nor during repairs, and mastodons accumulate in the fleet, uncombat-ready but consuming allowances .
        2. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
          Sergey3939 (Sergei) 2 July 2023 17: 32
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          Are you waiting, submarines in the steppes of Ukraine?
          1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2023 19: 09
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            our nuclear submarines are actively and successfully working on the steppes of ukraine, this is the main force of the fleet
  2. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 2 August 2023 15: 27
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    Agree. And those old and almost incompetent. What did Moscow show?

    In addition to Nakhimov, of course, and Ustinov.
  • Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 2 July 2023 18: 28
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    How the Far East is preparing for the construction of a series of promising frigates

    How how? With tambourines and only with tambourines. Because there is no other way. The aviation industry for a year, without tambourines, launches the 5th generation.
    1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
      Sergey3939 (Sergei) 3 July 2023 12: 16
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      Save the tambourines for a festive occasion!
  • savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 4 July 2023 21: 58
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    22350? Do they have diesel? There is none of them. And the factory will not help here.

    Polymers blew.
  • Anton Kuzmin Offline Anton Kuzmin
    Anton Kuzmin (Anton Kuzmin) 10 July 2023 11: 16
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    Auto RU. You have a typo! Not American and British SSBNs, but American and British (singular) If my sclerosis does not change me with someone younger, then there were four of them, but at this time there is only one in combat readiness.
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 11 July 2023 08: 08
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      Quote: Anton Kuzmin
      Auto RU. You have a typo! Not American and British SSBNs, but American and British (singular) If my sclerosis does not change me with someone younger, then there were four of them, but at this time there is only one in combat readiness.

      pleased thanks
  • Anton Kuzmin Offline Anton Kuzmin
    Anton Kuzmin (Anton Kuzmin) 11 July 2023 13: 48
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    Quote: vladimir1155
    Quote: Anton Kuzmin
    Auto RU. You have a typo! Not American and British SSBNs, but American and British (singular) If my sclerosis does not change me with someone younger, then there were four of them, but at this time there is only one in combat readiness.

    pleased thanks

    That is dumb for what! :)
  • Dmitry Volkov Offline Dmitry Volkov
    Dmitry Volkov (Dmitry Volkov) 11 August 2023 16: 12
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    Enough talking, it's high time to launch Burevestnik-M into the series and everything will be as before, and leave these digital technologies to the Chinese ... we won the Cold War on lamps, our "elite" type sold us for green papers ...