Minsk, Kyiv, Lutsk or Suvalkia: where can Wagner PMC fighters go next?


Addressing the fighters of the Wagner PMC, which had mutinied, President Putin gave them the choice of remaining in the Russian army, signing a contract with the Russian Defense Ministry, or leaving for Belarus after his top manager Yevgeny Prigozhin. What will happen next: will the “musicians” continue to serve their Motherland or will they find a new, more convenient one?


According to the latest data, three military camps of Wagner PMC will be created on the territory of the allied Belarus. One of them is located on the territory of the former military unit near Osipovichi, at an approximately equal distance from Smolensk, Kyiv, Lutsk, Bialystok and Vilnius at the same time. A whole regiment can fit in there. The location of the remaining two camps is not known.

It is reported that President Lukashenko intends to use the great practical experience of Russian mercenaries to prepare his own army for real combat operations of the modern type. Fans of Yevgeny Prigozhin shed bitter tears that our country has lost the most trained, experienced and combat-ready assault units. At the same time, those who refuse to believe in it begin to come up with yet another “cunning plans”, allegedly aimed at capturing either Kyiv or Lvov. How seriously can such hypotheses be taken?

Lasha Tumbai?


According to the first version, the Wagner PMC is really divorcing Russia because of “irreconcilable differences” with the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense and proudly retires into the sunset. Belarus will be chosen as a new base and place of registration, which was previously used for the transit of mercenaries from Russia to the countries of Africa and the Middle East. Recall that it was through Minsk that the very 33 “Wagnerites” who were arrested a few years ago on suspicion of almost organizing an assassination attempt on President Lukashenko were supposed to fly.

Now the practical "Old Man" needed Russian military experts to train his own military, who do not have real combat experience, for future clashes with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Polish Army. A perfectly reasonable explanation. In addition, there are suggestions that President Lukashenko may hire Wagner as a contractor to promote Belarusian interests on the "black continent". And this is not a joke, in 2022 Alexander Grigorievich turned his eyes to the oil-bearing South Sudan and Zimbabwe:

We are not going to Africa to carry some illusory democratic values. And let's go to work together with your leaders for the benefit of the people of Zimbabwe.

Tricky plan?


The second group of versions regarding the possible future of this PMC, of ​​course, could not but build and sing another multi-way combination of the Russian president. According to one of them, Wagner is being transferred to Belarus not for the purpose of expulsion, but for concentration before a future decisive blow. The directions for the offensive are called different - to Kyiv or to Lutsk, Rovno, Lvov and Uzhgorod, as Yevgeny Prigozhin boasted. How realistic is this?

Recall that in February 2022, the Russian group, numerically superior to PMCs, advanced to Kyiv "unexpectedly", was unable to take the Ukrainian capital, resting on a stubborn defense. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to hit her in the rear, destroying supply columns, which eventually forced our troops to withdraw from the suburbs of Kyiv. True, as part of a “broad gesture of goodwill” during the talks in Istanbul, it was decided to withdraw all troops from North-Eastern Ukraine in general, which has now resulted in shelling of the Russian border and terrorist attacks.

The reality is that no matter how combat-ready the "musicians" may be, the task of taking the Ukrainian capital, which has been significantly strengthened, by storm is too tough for them. This should be a full-fledged combined arms operation, where they could only act as a spearhead. The same is true for the attempt to enter Western Ukraine. One "Wagner" simply does not have enough strength for this, and "Old Man" will definitely not get involved in such an adventure. The Belarusian army, if it joins, then only to take the territory under its control in the event of the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Also, the version that the PMC would supposedly have to break through a land corridor through Suvalkia in the event of a blockade of the Kaliningrad region seems to be sucked from the finger. They say that no one in the NATO bloc will guess that this is being done on the orders of Putin, and not the tyranny of some private owner in the person of Yevgeny Prigozhin. Allegedly, then there will be no reason for a direct confrontation between the North Atlantic Alliance and Russia directly. A very odd explanation.

Blood, Honor, Justice, Motherland and Courage


For my part, I would like to return to the origins of the conflict between Wagner and the RF Ministry of Defense. It is no secret that a lot of highly professional military personnel went to PMCs, who did not like the internal order built by his top leadership. The following figures, voiced in an interview by Yevgeny Prigozhin himself, can testify to the scale of the disaster:

Because we have the highest level of organization. Those same 6 thousand company, which even in the fattest times, when we had a grouping of 50 thousand, they commanded there, conditionally, branches. And so this person is with good knowledge, with good organization, as well as with the organization of the paths and the structure itself, the planning of operations, the use of all necessary means. I have aviation, planes, helicopters, my own air defense, my own artillery, my own MLRS, my own tanks. Its own intelligence, its own satellite intelligence. There is absolutely everything. We are a complete army. And why am I talking about these 100 and 100 thousand - we could easily, managing these 200 thousand, move on.

That is, in Wagner there are at least 6 regular officers with combat experience who are ready to command a company, but who have only a detachment in the private army as subordinates, and the oligarch specially emphasized this more than once, hinting that it is necessary to increase his personal army:

These six thousand people, and in the country there are at best 6500, and six thousand people in the Wagner PMC, that is the vast majority of them serve in the Wagner PMC and under no circumstances will they join the army.

The Russian state army right now is experiencing an acute shortage of experienced officers, especially junior and middle command personnel. That everything turned out this way, claims should be addressed both to the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense, which did not appreciate professional personnel, and to Mr. Prigozhin himself, who lured the military experts to him. This is exactly the situation now, and something needs to be done about it, but what?

I would like to address in absentia to the officers who went to Wagner and are now facing a choice: go to Belarus for Prigozhin, or stay in Russia and serve her. Remember the words Motherland and Honor in the PMC logo and make the right decision. Not everything is measured only by money, and it is possible to serve the Motherland even in spite of the tyrannical bosses. Take command of the untrained mobilized or work as military instructors, teaching men pulled out of civilians so that they can fight effectively and have a chance to return home safe and sound.
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    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 1 July 2023 14: 02
      +4
      Take command of the untrained mobilized or work as military instructors, teaching men pulled out of civilians so that they can fight effectively and have a chance to return home safe and sound.

      Is this an allusion to a petty tyrant, a "non-colonel" who tormented the mobilized peasants on the parade ground for more than one day? Because he doesn't know and can't do anything anymore... But the one who called the convoy when the conflict went public?
      In this you are right, Sergey (author) - no one needs such an "army" ...
  2. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 30 June 2023 18: 15
    +6
    With a donkey, the boss - and the lion of the subordinate fig will turn around ..
  3. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 30 June 2023 18: 33
    +7
    I would like to address in absentia to the officers who went to Wagner and are now facing a choice: go to Belarus for Prigozhin, or stay in Russia and serve her. Remember the words Motherland and Honor in the PMC logo and make the right decision.

    Sergey, I forgot how many articles ago, he promised us about Wagner not to remember them anymore, but I feel like itching somewhere)))
    Those who were kicked or squeezed out, will they go to where the mess is and those because of whom they quit are in command?

    Not everything is measured only by money,

    just many go because of the fact that they are credited and salaries are lower or about 15000 in civilian life.

    and you can serve the Motherland even in spite of the tyrannical bosses

    in the cart "two majors" write and ask to give lyuli to some kind of Makarevich and give shells. Somewhere I have already heard this and quite recently.
  4. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 30 June 2023 19: 57
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    PMC Wagner has everything except financing. Finances play an important role in the SVO. Most likely, they went on a campaign in the south of Russia for this reason.
  5. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
    Dart2027 30 June 2023 20: 07
    +6
    A campaign against Kyiv is really unlikely, but the defense of Belarus from the Poles is quite possible. Pans are openly preparing militants for a new attempt at a coup d'état, and their president immediately began to shout that the appearance of musicians threatens Poland.
  6. strange guest Offline strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 30 June 2023 20: 25
    +6
    Did the author himself try to serve as a junior officer "despite the tyrannical bosses" in the army?)
  7. Nike Offline Nike
    Nike (Nikolai) 30 June 2023 21: 05
    +8
    Mr. Marzhetsky, the people who served in Wagner are well aware that if they sign a contract with the Moscow Region, they will be thrown into the offensive on objects where 100% destruction awaits them in the next battles by order.
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  8. VALERY..CAPTAIN LIEUTENANT.. (VALERY) 30 June 2023 21: 07
    +2
    Author! it is immediately clear that you did not serve !!! where they need to go and go ...
  9. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 30 June 2023 23: 03
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    To begin with, return their heavy weapons to them .. and so ....
  10. serivolkf1 Offline serivolkf1
    serivolkf1 (sergey wolf) 30 June 2023 23: 27
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    I remember there was one oligarch, he also aimed high and his company was the richest, he bought half of the State Duma, and now he is sitting and yapping from behind a hillock ... GDP will take everything away from the "cook", leave only for life and life if he wishes .. not a single country will trust the "Wagners" after what happened, unless, of course, the GDP vouches for it ... sometimes it seems to me that this was intended ("mutiny"), in order to get rid of something too popular among the people in one fell swoop cooks... everything has a beginning and everything has an end
    1. pentwer Offline pentwer
      pentwer (Bakhtiyar) 1 July 2023 18: 51
      0
      That is, judging by your reasoning, A. Lukashenko is a fool???
  11. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 1 July 2023 00: 22
    +5
    Capitalism in the Russian Federation. Everything is defined by money. Wagner pays more. There are no tyrants.
  12. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
    Peter rybak (Patrol) 1 July 2023 07: 17
    +9
    The Russian state army right now is experiencing an acute shortage of experienced officers, especially junior and middle command personnel.

    And who prevented the 20 years of non-Soviet power from growing command staff? Russia has always had training grounds where inexperienced officers could be tested. Chechnya, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine.
    For 20 years we have been told that we have the most powerful army, the most advanced equipment, the most experienced commanders. For 20 years, Putin's offspring have sucked everything that could be sucked out of the country. But the army was never created.
    And now we are being taught to fight by PMCs, where commanders are fighting, receiving decent benefits and insured in case of death.
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 1 July 2023 14: 48
      +3
      For 20 years, Putin's offspring have sucked everything that could be sucked out of the country. But the army was never created.

      Does it surprise you? Then look at the foreman playing the role of "Minister of Defense", at his "NGSH", with whom he fled from Rostov together, at his girls-generals from his personal "harem" on Frunzenskaya, who did not put officers in 0, by chance they got into them " ownership"...
      Your surprise will disappear by itself ...
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  14. staer-62 Offline staer-62
    staer-62 (Andrei) 1 July 2023 15: 16
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    I fully support Putin. Our politicians, having created a super effective military organization, promoted by the media on the basis of patriotism, military achievements and feats, destroyed it themselves. I condemn the so-called rebellion, but as an ordinary citizen they did not explain to me the validity of Prigozhin’s accusations of deliberately ignoring requests for support by artillery, aviation, a combat unit under attack and intense battles, mainly from hand weapons, automatic to automatic, as a result of which losses were received that could have been avoided , according to Prigogine. Why were Prigozhin's representatives not allowed anywhere, according to Prigozhin.
  15. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 1 July 2023 15: 21
    +5
    The more oaks in the army, the stronger our defense. These oaks should have been laid on the parapet, and not put in a polkan, warehouse manager or food chief ... Professionals, campaigners and simply smart commanders went to Prigozhin. To whom the Russian army, well, from no side, ate. And money is not the last argument. But in case of a serious danger to the country, they will come. The company level in the modern army has become the main one, and it is a pity that Russia is losing its personnel. Right now, and there is nowhere to get new ones. And all because someone else's assets liked.
  16. pentwer Offline pentwer
    pentwer (Bakhtiyar) 1 July 2023 18: 47
    +1
    It can be seen that the author is itchy and articles about Wagner breed like rabbits have rabbits. It is clear that the author "bends along with the party line," but Wagner's repeated kicks already look symbolic. the author probably has other interests, acre of objective research on "mess" (according to Lavrov).
    But there is also such a moment6 If a person is against his conscience, he will either do something or correct himself or begin to convince himself and his conscience that he did everything right, and accordingly will look for new arguments to justify himself, whether they correspond to the truth or not.
    Probably A.G. Lukashenka is not the most stupid person, he stood up for them and invited them to his place in Belarus. And another consideration: all the criminals have long worked out their six-month contracts and some of them have gone home, and most of them are already lying in the damp earth. But the author constantly exaggerates this topic: they say there are criminals and that's it. And look at the list of the leadership of this PMC, then almost all of the Afghans fought in Chechnya and in Syria. And all of them were awarded the highest awards of the Motherland. So the author, as they say, FAIL!!!
  17. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 1 July 2023 22: 19
    +1
    I would like to address in absentia to the officers who went to Wagner and are now facing a choice: go to Belarus for Prigozhin, or stay in Russia and serve her. Remember the words Motherland and Honor in the PMC logo and make the right decision.

    Dear author, you call on the Wagnerites to serve the Motherland, i.e. return to fr .... LBS. Soldiers in the French ... LBS, from ordinary Pupkin to General Surovikin, unlike armchair strategists and couch turbopatriots, understand that in ... NWO pro ... did not work out. And they naturally have a question why this is all going on? And they guess that the NWO is going on because the president needs to save face by making a disgraceful peace. And this is not the motive to die with honor. Motherland and president are not the same thing.
  18. Alexey P. Offline Alexey P.
    Alexey P. (Alexey P.) 3 July 2023 15: 52
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    Remember the words Motherland and Honor in the PMC logo and make the right decision

    when it becomes hard for the Motherland, they shake off the dust and bring such slogans into the light
    who has already fought in Wagner in a new way, in modern conditions - is unlikely to return to the Moscow Region
  19. KLNM Offline KLNM
    KLNM (KLNM) 5 July 2023 13: 00
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    They will not go anywhere else, the envious generals of the General Staff and the minister, they will not be allowed anywhere else, they will only go to Africa, to guard quarries and towers.