What if the rebellion of the PMC "Wagner" was successful


“Revolutions are prepared by geniuses, made by romantics, and crooks use their fruits” - Thomas Carlyle, British writer, essayist, historian and philosopher 1795-1881.


Seeing an article beginning with an epigraph, our longtime readers probably thought it was Mr. Z, but no. In this publication, we will try to sum up some intermediate results of the Wagner PMC rebellion, figure out what it was, what goals the attack aircraft of the oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin pursued, rushing to Moscow and shooting down helicopters of the army aviation of the RF Armed Forces and aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces along the way.

"Bloody Saturday"


After reading numerous angry and emotional comments to his previous article on this topic, the author of the lines considers it necessary to clarify his position on what happened, and also to try to give our esteemed readers the opportunity to look at the rebellion of the "musicians" from a different angle.

First of all, a few words about the author's position. An armed rebellion in the rear in wartime, especially when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting a large-scale offensive, is the gravest crime, since it can destroy the entire command and control system and lead to a severe defeat at the front and internal political destabilization, up to the falling away from Russia of some national republics. With all the critical attitude towards what is happening in our country, the “alternative” shown by the top manager of the Wagner PMC is much worse and completely unacceptable.

What has been written in the last few days about the rebellion of the private army of Yevgeny Prigozhin! There were frankly insane versions of the next KhPP with the aim of controlled identification and elimination of internal opposition, and not unfounded hypotheses about the "long arm of the West." But, probably, the most popular so far is the theory that this is how the Russian billionaire went to seek the truth in Moscow, which the President and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief do not know.

If we draw some historical parallels, then within the framework of this logic about truth-seeking, one can find correspondences with the events of Bloody Sunday in 1905, when a mass procession of St. needs.
Can Yevgeny Prigozhin be considered a modern priest Gapon, who incited his subordinates to the “March of Justice”, using their desire for it? If so, what could be his true goals?

"Traveled", but passed


As expected, before moving on to active actions, a certain “manifesto” or “petition” should have been formulated and published to justify their “legitimacy”. This can be considered a large programmatic interview with Yevgeny Prigozhin, given against the background of the flag of PMC "Wagner". If you wish, you can independently find it in the search and see it in full. In the format of this article, its author, as a certified lawyer, journalist and political scientist in one person, would like to focus on the key points of Prigozhin's manifesto.

In an interview, the top manager of Wagner told a lot of hard and unpleasant truth about what happened in the Donbass after 2014, how the NMD began and developed, and about the numerous problems of the Russian army. At the same time, he clearly and unambiguously named the main, in his opinion, the perpetrators of what was happening: the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu and the head of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Gerasimov. Also, in his fiery appeal, it was said about a certain “oligarchic clan”, in whose interests everything is being done, and about some “grandfathers”. On the evening of the same day, June 23, 2023, the private army of the oligarch Prigozhin crossed the border without permission, occupied Rostov-on-Don and Millerovo, and rushed in several columns towards Moscow. They were stopped only on the evening of June 24 after long and difficult negotiations mediated by the Belarusian President Lukashenka, for which honor and praise.

For those who in recent months have become a fan of Prigozhin with his tough speeches, I would like to draw their attention to certain semantic guidelines embedded in the text. As is often the case, in the midst of the truth, an outright lie was inserted, for the sake of substantiating which everything was done. In particular, Evgeny Viktorovich for some reason deceived about what happened in the Donbass before the start of the NMD:

Now on why the special operation began. The Ukrainians had a grouping that was located along the borders with the Donbass, just the one that we broke through from Popasna to Artemovsk. This grouping consisted of various voluntary... let's say... formations, as well as from the active army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This group exchanged shots: we hit them, and they hit us. And this happened all these long 8 years - from 2014 to 2022.

Sometimes the number of different skirmishes increased ... roughly speaking, the exchange of ammunition, the exchange of shots, sometimes it decreased. There was nothing extraordinary on February 24. Now the Ministry of Defense is trying to deceive the public, trying to deceive the president and tell a story that there was insane aggression from Ukraine and it was going to attack with the entire NATO bloc. Therefore, the special operation was launched for completely different reasons.

The truth is that Donbass was under regular shelling of varying degrees of intensity throughout the eight years of the Minsk agreements. They especially intensified a few days before the start of the special operation, which led to a partial evacuation from the DPR, in case someone suddenly forgot. Moreover, it is no longer a secret that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were preparing their own large-scale offensive in the Donbass for March 2022, which, taking into account the state of the NM LDNR, had a serious chance of success. On February 18, 2022, the head of the DPR Pushilin announced the evacuation of the civilian population:

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky will soon give an order to the military to go on the offensive, to implement a plan to invade the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. The armed forces of the Donetsk People's Republic, having experience in conducting military operations, are in constant combat readiness. Fully capable of protecting civilians and infrastructure. Nevertheless, when the enemy shells the settlements of the republic, the life and health of our citizens may be endangered.

The second big lie is that the war was allegedly beneficial to the Russian oligarchs. In fact, this bunch of dollar billionaires, closely integrated into the Western world, is one of the main financial victims of the CBO. On the contrary, it is the oligarchs of the first draft of the “dashing nineties” who objectively relate to the so-called peace party, which is ready for any concessions to Kyiv and its Western accomplices in order to rewind the situation to the state of 2013.

The biggest lie of Mr. Prigozhin is that President Zelensky was allegedly ready for a peaceful settlement of the conflict:

Zelensky, when he became president, was ready for agreements. All that had to be done was to get off Olympus, go and negotiate with him.

Yevgeny Viktorovich enthusiastically says that while Russian troops were stationed near Kiev in February 2022, it was necessary to create some kind of commission to work out a compromise solution. The truth is that already on February 25 last year, the day after the start of the NWO, President Putin suspended it for the first time precisely for the sake of negotiations. On February 26, 2022, his press secretary Peskov told about this:

Yesterday afternoon, in connection with the expected negotiations with the Ukrainian leadership, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and President of Russia ordered the suspension of the advance of the main forces of the Russian troops.

Moreover, while the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were near Kiev and in the North-East of Ukraine, negotiations were underway in Istanbul with the Ukrainian side, and even a draft peace treaty was prepared on conditions that were not the most favorable for Russia. It was only then that President Zelensky threw him out. Why did he throw it away? Yes, because since 2014 Ukraine has been under external control from across the ocean and is not an independent political entity. That is, any agreements with it are not worth the paper on which they are printed and signed. However, Mr. Prigozhin puts pressure on the fact that it was supposedly possible to come to an agreement with Kiev, and at the same time he is openly lying, because his words are completely refuted by objective reality. Why is he doing this?

And here we are logically approaching what we started our reasoning with. The so-called March of Justice, during which Russian helicopters and planes were shot down, could not pursue any goal of “bringing the truth to Putin”. There are no naive people either in the Kremlin or in Prigozhin's headquarters. Logic suggests that it made sense to arrange a march on Moscow only for the sake of committing an apical coup, which “private traders” could fix. However, something clearly went wrong, and it became pointless to enter the capital with small forces of Wagner PMC. Otherwise, the "musicians" there would simply be blocked by the units removed from the front and destroyed.

The only question is what would an oligarch who came to power do?

Judging by the numerous comments, some people believe that Prigozhin would have brought order to the Russian Ministry of Defense with a hard hand and started to fight the Armed Forces of Ukraine for real. It is quite possible that the "musicians" who followed him believed in the same. Here are just an analysis of the "manifesto" of the oligarch suggests otherwise. Rather, it would have been authoritatively explained to us later that, due to the fault of “famous persons”, the army allegedly cannot fight now, and therefore it is necessary to conclude a truce with Kiev. How Wagner deals with those who disagree is no secret. Then there could be a redistribution of the remnants of state property among the "correct" oligarchs. The problem of new regions would be solved through negotiations through further concessions and "de-escalations".

Is it possible for people's good intentions to end up being used against them? Decide for yourself what could happen if the Wagner rebellion were successful.
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  1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 26 June 2023 11: 49
    +17
    Rather, it would have been authoritatively explained to us later that, due to the fault of “famous persons”, the army allegedly cannot fight now, and therefore it is necessary to conclude a truce with Kiev. How Wagner deals with those who disagree is no secret. Then there could be a redistribution of the remnants of state property among the "correct" oligarchs. The problem of "new" regions would be solved through negotiations through further concessions and "de-escalations".

    that is, exactly the same thing would happen as NON-COMMANDER himself does, whose accomplices just recently announced at one of the forums that it is necessary to continue the privatization of state property ...

    and the non-commander himself admitted the fact of negotiations not so long ago and even shook documents that confirmed his desire to betray the interests of the Russian Federation again and again (which he actually did all his life from the time of carrying a briefcase for the dad of one Ksyusha) ... I think that and the flight from one city in He and another area in Ha has an explanation similar to those documents ...

    Well, what about the fact that the bastards use the results of the Revolution, it’s true ... all these Potanins, Abramovichs, Vekselbergs, Mordashovs, etc. use the fruits of the 1917 Revolution, which at the same time they happily spit along with the non-commanding moth. for they themselves were not able to create anything for 30 years. and here it is best to end with a quote from Brezhnev's granddaughter:

    you can't even paint what my grandfather built
    1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
      Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 27
      +1
      that is, exactly the same thing would happen as the NON-COMMANDER himself does

      Exactly. I give a plus.
      First of all, if the Wagner rebellion had succeeded, this article would not have existed.
      And an important question: why is Prigozhin not being charged with discrediting the armed forces of the Russian Federation?
  2. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
    scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 26 June 2023 11: 56
    -19
    I agree with the author's analysis completely.
    In any case, it was a crime against the Russian people and state. I do not understand the "pardon" of traitors. I do not understand Simonyan, who proposes to forget the crime.
    1. Jstas Offline Jstas
      Jstas (jstas) 26 June 2023 14: 29
      +4
      ... centipede, a nasty creature that causes not fear, but disgust ...

      from wiki it seems
      1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
        Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 29
        +1
        This is a ghoulish looking centipede.
  3. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 26 June 2023 11: 59
    0
    what is this mr z,

    thought either Marzhetsky or Neukropny.
    you and Z differ in headings, and neither is the topic for his separate article. and so quickly, on the second day, he would not have written.
    but for a month now he has not published anything, yes. Pishenkov is also not visible.

    only now Maidans are doing - fanatics ...
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 26 June 2023 12: 01
    +9
    Ha.
    When I quickly flipped through this video, I thought it was a fake?
    No, judging by the author, it is.

    Well, the rest - what video without PR?
    Stopped military action? Do they talk about losses?
    About corruption in the LDNR, poverty, the closure of the Russian Spring and EDRO?
    Red Caviar and Crabs on MO tables?
    window dressing? exchange of Azrovtsy for Medvedchuk, oligarchy and redistribution of property?
    - all YES, it was written in the media

    Rebellion and betrayal? do not fit the definition. There were no ideas of change of power.
    The manager of a private company wanted to sign a lucrative contract with the MoD, but... he couldn't, he couldn't. Dropped the company.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 26 June 2023 22: 58
      +4
      The manager of a private company wanted to sign a lucrative contract with the MoD, but... he couldn't, he couldn't. Squeezed out the company

      Well, I couldn't! Where does such information come from? Unclear. The MO wanted to put the Wagnerites under its direct control, but they did not want to. That's the whole contract. How to continue to fight in the absence of a law on PMCs? And who is to blame for this? However, Prigozhin again stated that there was a blow to the PMC camp. Who shot or didn't shoot? Molchok. As a result of the bloody battles for Artyomovsk, Wagner did not receive any awards? Why? It is an insult. Awarded for lesser merit. And, finally, the main thing: why were the disassembly of PMCs and the Defense Ministry not considered by the supreme power? And the PMC acted like a boy: you have to answer for the bazaar, although this cannot be justified. It was better to just leave.
  5. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 26 June 2023 12: 01
    +28
    Looking at everything that has been happening for 23 years now, the country can say one thing - we had different kings, a couple of Great, Terrible, Bloody, Peacemaker ... They added one more - Vladimir No ..
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    2. Nike Offline Nike
      Nike (Nikolai) 26 June 2023 15: 50
      0
      Take your time, "the morning is wiser than the evening", let's see what happens when the "foam" settles.
      1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
        Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 31
        +3
        Quote: nike
        Take your time, "the morning is wiser than the evening", let's see what happens when the "foam" settles.

        So for 23 years no one is in a hurry.
  6. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 26 June 2023 12: 03
    +14
    Tek-s, this article by me, a respected and competent author, seems more interesting than the previous one, it is more reasoned or something. Nevertheless, I dare to remain of my opinion that the top coup was not planned, and precisely because, as Sergey writes

    .. there are no naive people in Prigozhin's headquarters

    I will add that Mr. Prigozhin himself is far from being a romantic, moreover, he has a huge organizational experience, moreover, with connections in all the country's power structures without exception. For illustration, I will refer to only one photograph, where he is peacefully talking with the highest officers of the Ministry of Defense in Rostov, on the porch, and no one is shooting at him there.
    During the war, everyone lies. Journalists lie on editorial assignments; officials and the military lie, because it is necessary; Prigogine is also lying. One can only guess about his true goals of the "campaign of justice" and the agreements reached as a result, but the fact that the leadership of military operations frankly does not suit many who participate in them is a fait accompli. This is not my personal opinion, but the conclusion from the demarche of the Prigozhintsevs, which happened and developed until they agreed with it. They fought brilliantly, these are our citizens, and if they took such an extreme measure as moving on Moscow, it means they didn’t see another way how to punch the power in the face, no matter who represented it.
    To stir
    1. Jstas Offline Jstas
      Jstas (jstas) 26 June 2023 14: 26
      +10
      Minin and Pozharsky also moved to Moscow. Now this date is a holiday in Russia
      1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
        Paul3390 (Paul) 26 June 2023 15: 18
        +7
        Uh-huh .. They say - in Rus' there is a tradition, once every 200 years, to throw out foreign invaders and the elite who sold them out of the Kremlin ..
  7. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 26 June 2023 12: 07
    +27
    Now all the Kremlin propagandists are screaming hysterically that the people of the Wagnerites did not support it.
    Did you ask the people?
    You wouldn't like his answer very much.
    1. Lomlad Offline Lomlad
      Lomlad (Alex) 26 June 2023 14: 10
      +8
      They might as well ask. Sociologists controlled by the Kremlin, who can deduce whatever figures the authorities want.
  8. RUR Offline RUR
    RUR 26 June 2023 12: 07
    +6
    Well, the tops, like, showed that the army did not stop Prigozhin, although it did not join them, and that, like, they can enter Moscow if necessary ... - something like this happened
  9. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 26 June 2023 12: 19
    +8
    The demonstration of force shown by the owner of the PMC tells us that new times have come when hiding behind laws and constitutions is no longer relevant. This is neo-feudalism, where the one who has more power and desire to demonstrate and use it is right. And all this thanks to the sensitive leadership of a single group in the Duma and the Kremlin.
  10. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 26 June 2023 12: 25
    +12
    I remembered something about early Putin's threats "... and we'll soak in the toilet," but then a little bit and vice versa did not work, yeah ... life is like that, however
    1. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
      Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 26 June 2023 12: 34
      -17
      Even if Prigogine showed off a little, it was as if they had soaked him in the toilet. Apparently Alexander Grigorievich gave him a friendly hint.
      1. Nike Offline Nike
        Nike (Nikolai) 26 June 2023 15: 58
        +6
        And the wetters themselves do not drown? After all, eight (eight Carl!) Divisions tested in battles are a huge force, and I doubt that the army team will go against it, this window dressing, biathlons and nonsense are sitting in their livers.
        1. serivolkf1 Offline serivolkf1
          serivolkf1 (sergey wolf) 26 June 2023 21: 56
          0
          Karl in the wartime division 15k bayonets, where did you already see 8 of them? correctly say: fear has big eyes! these are the ones who talk about the tragedy that almost happened, as if they were constipated after barbecue ...
          1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
            Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 35
            0
            You're lying, Gray Wolf.

            A division is a large military unit or formation, usually consisting of 6000 to 25 soldiers. In most armies, a division consists of several regiments or brigades; in turn, several divisions usually make up a corps.
  11. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 26 June 2023 12: 32
    -14
    Those who have been verified can be put at the head of PMCs. Under the strict control of special services. And then they put this bugger of a huckster, then he imagined himself to be Alexander the Great. As if he organized everything himself and supplied with weapons and found people. Apparently, Lukashenka let him know that it is not too late to back out. Otherwise, there will be no mercy. You won't get away with prison.
    1. Lomlad Offline Lomlad
      Lomlad (Alex) 26 June 2023 14: 08
      +8
      So Prigogine is just proven. Putin personally. In any case, it was his for him. And no one put him at the head of the PMC. He created it himself. Or, as you write,

      organized and found people.

      Moreover, apparently, to fulfill, so to speak, the delicate instructions of the President.
      1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
        hellman anton (hellman anton) 26 June 2023 18: 30
        +2
        Wagner was not created by Prigozhin, if anything, it was created by former people from the army to make money outside of Russia, because they saw that the Americans did it well. But as a real army with air defense systems, planes, tanks - Prigozhin is here, everything is right.
        And she became popular when big money appeared in her - Prigogine.
        Although they say that it was supposedly from 2013, but much earlier, the whole movement began with PMCs. Therefore, they looked at the success of American mercenaries there
  12. Platon Verdictov 26 June 2023 13: 18
    +24
    Showdown between Prigozhin and Shoigu has been going on for a long time. Against the backdrop of the ongoing war, the head of a large armed formation accuses the Minister of Defense of betrayal. The guarantor stubbornly does not make any intelligible statements. In fact, he is the main provocateur. In my opinion, the main indignation should have been caused precisely by his behavior, long before any rebellions. It behaves in this way on all fronts, for years and decades now the most elementary measures have not been taken.
  13. unc-2 Online unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 26 June 2023 13: 46
    0
    We were on the verge of disaster. But it's not worth milking this topic all the time. It is necessary to return to the troubles that are already haunting the citizens of Luhansk and Donetsk. Normal mood in these cities is worth a lot. Life there is not sweet. And who doesn't stop firing at them.
  14. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 26 June 2023 14: 22
    +2
    And he was crowned with success. Operation Saddam Hussein-2, aka "Bloody Sunday -2" of the Jewish fifth column, has been thwarted. The Gapons of the 21st century did not succeed. The solidarity of the Army with Prigozhin, the people of Russia with WAGNER is shown. The Minister of Defense walks in wet trousers. The military unit that inspires fear in the Jewish fascists who seized Ukraine has been preserved. GDP received a lesson in history that after the uprising on the battleship "Potemkin" / March of Justice /, / by the way, without the agitation of Lenin, Trotsky /, October will come, instead of tank ballets, tank armies will come, "effective, but rather defective" managers will take their place in prisons ...
    1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
      Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 54
      -2
      Let me rephrase a quote from a famous movie.

      The more I read you, the more it seems to me that you are delusional.
  15. Lomlad Offline Lomlad
    Lomlad (Alex) 26 June 2023 14: 28
    +13
    I will not comment on this entire article as a whole. I do not want to prevaricate, but writing the truth is becoming more and more dangerous. I just want to draw attention to the features of Prigozhin's personality, which are visible to the naked eye and in which he basically differs greatly from the current President of the Russian Federation. They also have something in common: cunning and sociability. At the same time, Prigogine is a concrete man, that is, he knows how not only to talk, but also to do business, accustomed to being responsible for his words, resolute, persistent, and also close in terms to peasants and boys, and if you like, has not lost touch with simple people. And he is not careful and impulsive enough.
    1. Vladimir R. Offline Vladimir R.
      Vladimir R. (Vladimir Russian) 27 June 2023 16: 44
      -1
      Who's the smart one??? The one that everyone around deceives, but he believes ???
  16. strange guest Offline strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 26 June 2023 14: 47
    +20
    The people did not come out to rallies against PMCs. Here's some food for thought...
    1. sap Offline sap
      sap (Alex) 26 June 2023 23: 05
      +2
      Quote: Strange guest
      The people did not come out to rallies against PMCs. .

      But he didn't join along the way. But some 200 km did not reach the Kremlin.
      1. strange guest Offline strange guest
        strange guest (Strange Guest) 27 June 2023 07: 14
        +1
        Like Pushkin in "Boris Godunov" -

        the people are silent ...

        waiting for the Time of Troubles.
      2. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
        Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 56
        -2
        Quote: sap
        Quote: Strange guest
        The people did not come out to rallies against PMCs. .

        But he didn't join along the way. But some 200 km did not reach the Kremlin.

        I didn't, I didn't realize.
    2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 26 June 2023 23: 25
      -2
      The people will not come out to any rallies unless they are persuaded under any pretexts. The only one: May 9th.
  17. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 26 June 2023 16: 10
    +7
    and who will analyze it now: where is the truth, where is the lie? (about the article)
    Falsehood can be passed off as truth and vice versa.
    after 16 months of SVO?
    I don't even want to bother to figure it out.

    does everyone remember Putin's words after the Crimean spring?
    [tags: Crimea, Khrushchev, Holodomor]
    ... like, how and why Khrushchev handed over Crimea to Ukraine -
    “Now let historians sort this out.”

    those. the truth is one - Victory. and when there is victory, everything will fly off by itself.

    but for now I see (in our region) the society is still divided, disappointed. and if the mess had taken place, then our new / old police would have faded away, as in Rostov.
    1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
      Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 07: 57
      +1
      And not just the police. But also the National Guard, and deputies of the local bottling. And business would pick up. We love those who hit us in the face.
  18. Pavel Mokshanov_2 (Pavel Mokshanov) 26 June 2023 16: 11
    +17
    The people did not come out against the Wagners. On the contrary, in Rostov they saw off with regret and tears. And here's a simple question. How many people and admirers of the guarantor would come out to defend him and Moscow? Data flew through the media that many bourgeois and bureaucrats who swore allegiance to him were hastily pulled out of the capital.
  19. Aleksey Glotov Offline Aleksey Glotov
    Aleksey Glotov (alexey glotov) 26 June 2023 16: 15
    +8
    The author ... Bucha, Kyiv, Raisins came back to haunt Prigozhin's campaign ... it was useless for Putin to rely on a piece of paper signed by the Nazis of Ukraine ... it costs nothing ... this is Putin's unforgivable mistake.
    It is obvious to me that in this conflict the situation was unstable on both sides.
    Our elite rushed to save their capital by buying tickets to Istanbul ... no one came out to protest against Prigozhin ... so Putin should think that his vertical of power is not so strong ... there is no 100 percent support of the people.
    But in any case, it is very good that things did not come to a civil war.
  20. Vlad55 Offline Vlad55
    Vlad55 26 June 2023 17: 40
    0
    On the evening of the same day, June 23, 2023, the private army of the oligarch Prigozhin crossed the border without permission, occupied Rostov-on-Don

    I didn’t understand about the border, which one was meant if the DLNR, so it seems like it’s been gone for half a year.
    Does anyone believe that the preparation of such a grandiose event passed by the special services? Therefore, the rebellion was realizing that there would be blood, the question is what goals were pursued. For example, it is already clear that as a result the issue with an inconvenient, but very effective PMC and its curator has been resolved, they no longer have a place in the Russian Federation. There are apparently more bonuses for certain circles, which will appear later.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 26 June 2023 23: 35
      0
      Here you go! MO lost a serious combat unit! Who should be fired for this! Instead of PMCs, how many mobilized should be called? I think 100 thousand, taking into account 3 mobs for 1 Wagner. And there is also the question: what if there were no FSB agents in the structure of Wagner. If not, then this is a minus of the FSB.
  21. Lisa Kerner Offline Lisa Kerner
    Lisa Kerner 26 June 2023 19: 35
    +5
    Be that as it may, Putin must immediately expel the mediocre "commanders" and the Fifth Column!!
  22. oleg Pesotsky Offline oleg Pesotsky
    oleg Pesotsky (Oleg Pesotsky) 26 June 2023 19: 59
    +4
    Sergey. What happened to you? Admit or at least hint that you were kidnapped and forced to write such articles. Where is the accessible presentation of the material, logic, common sense and arguments? A heap of doubtful reasoning and contradictory facts. As a lawyer, I will give you only one fact - on the 23rd, at about 20.00, artillery hit the PMC camps from the rear. After trying to find out what happened, the FSB opened a criminal case that same night, you won’t believe it, but it was against PMCs! What efficiency! I stated my version of what happened in the comments under your previous article. I think it explains more about what happened.
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  25. serivolkf1 Offline serivolkf1
    serivolkf1 (sergey wolf) 26 June 2023 22: 02
    -4
    it seems to me that everyone who defends or justifies another "culinary masterpiece" of a chef was born no more than 30 years ago, maybe I'm wrong, but that we should go to churches for 1000 years, and then destroy them overnight, and then rebuild them again and all this thanks to all the same chefs who hang noodles on your protruding ears in surprise ... all the best, don't take it to heart))
    1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
      Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 08: 01
      +1
      You are wrong. I'm already 60.
      Chefs are easy to offend. Not those you blame for our troubles.
  26. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 26 June 2023 22: 50
    +1
    Just while we were driving, Prigozhin looked at public services and when he saw how many fines came, he realized that there was not enough money to pay and deployed the columns. What kind of success can we talk about?
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    1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
      Peter rybak (Patrol) 27 June 2023 08: 03
      +2
      Suggest analogues. If you know them. You can hurriedly poke into Anglo-Saxon Google, or almost Anglo-Saxon Yandex on an Anglo-Saxon phone or Anglo-Saxon laptop, sitting in an Anglo-Saxon car.
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        1. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
          Grei grin (Gray Grin) 27 June 2023 20: 19
          +2
          while our ships ply the expanses of the big theater ........
  28. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 27 June 2023 09: 46
    -1
    Zelensky, when he became president, was ready for agreements. All that had to be done was to get off Olympus, go and negotiate with him.

    Yes. And get on your knees, return the Crimea and pay reparations. It looks like this Prigozhin is really a Bandera agent (
  29. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 27 June 2023 20: 16
    -2
    "The Tale of How Ataman Prigozhin Went to Moscow" in order to save the good tsar from the bad boyars. Emelka Pugachev, looking at this from the other world, his eyes burst and his turnip cracked with envy of such cuteness!
  30. bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 27 June 2023 23: 14
    +3
    Weird heading for this article....

    The rebellion cannot be successful. Otherwise, his name is different (S.Ya. Marshak)
  31. Navigator Offline Navigator
    Navigator (Andrei) 2 July 2023 23: 50
    0
    What would happen if... It might happen... If they do that, then the following might happen. Assuming ... Dear author. You are not Wang. The fabrications and assumptions of the people are not interesting. The enumeration of facts and the conclusions drawn against their background are interesting. And 90% of your pearls are exactly the duplication of Vanga, only the scale is not the same. Knowing your exclusivity, everything should work out for you. We are waiting for articles from you without interspersing fantasy. Good luck!