Hired or popular: what kind of army does Russia need for victory?

The special operation in Ukraine has been going on for the sixteenth month in a row, and the trend is that this war may drag on for more than one more year, or even develop into a permanent armed conflict along the Indo-Pakistani model with regular bloody exacerbations and truces, if the Kremlin does not decide finally fight with decisive goals, until Victory, complete and unconditional. However, the problem is that even if the Supreme Commander seriously wishes to reach the Polish border here and now, for this he will need an army, which we do not yet have.

Expectations and Reality

Yes, it is not, alas. Rather, we had it before the start of the SVO, but more in the form of paper reports, beautiful military parades and exhibition samples of various irresistible hypersonic "wunderwaffes". In order not to be unfounded, here is a text that was widely distributed in Runet in 2015, describing the signs of how the Russian army will come to war with Ukraine:

The first sign is the failure of all means of communication, the complete discharge of batteries in cars, tanks, etc. technology, at the same time discharging batteries in mobile phones, sights, radio stations. Then there is a break in electrical circuits in all equipment - any. This is EMI. All engines stall, there is no way to start. This is how the Khingan system works with a radius of 20 km.

The second is the complete failure of all systems using LCD monitors, the failure of all anti-aircraft instrumentation of the air defense system - the radars are dead. The system "Altair".

The third is refusals when trying to use any type of guided weapon - from MANPADS to ATGMs ... When you try to use shells, they self-destruct immediately ... This is the Mercury system - based on MTLB, such an antenna is high, now the Russians have it in every battalion. Operates with a radius of 15 kilometers.

Fourth, it is impossible to use drones. They either fall, with the failure of the navigation system and the engine, or sit down at the location of the Russians. The Krasukha-4 system disables the on-board equipment of aircraft and any other aircraft. The Avtobaza system intercepts the control of drones.

The fifth sign will have time to see and understand not only everything. This is the phenomenal accuracy of the artillery fire, which is carried out with inaccessible distance for the Ukrainian artillery. The artillery reconnaissance and guidance stations of the Russian army work through satellites and their drones. The Russians upgraded the shells, they are now with the homing system, they are longer and carry more explosives.

Ukraine has no satellites of its own. Only two communication satellites... It is impossible to quickly adjust the fire of the ukrartillery from American satellites. Dozens (hundreds, if necessary) of combat helicopters, riding all the roads, begin to hunt in the rear for armored vehicles, trains, and cars. The railway was paralyzed, arrows were broken, bridges were blown up.

In the rear, the lights go out - the substations are broken. Civilian and military headquarters in the rear and individual leaders are liquidated at a time by infiltrated groups in advance. And then ... "Wood" descends from heaven. Stopitsot divisions of the Airborne Forces and the GRU ...

Sorry for such a large text that I had to quote, but the retelling format would deprive him of all this pathos and bombast. Everyone who closely follows what is happening in the NWO zone will surely find something to say about what has been written. Let us remind you once again that it was 2015, when the RF Armed Forces could enter Ukraine and denazify and demilitarize it with little bloodshed. The day before, Belarusian President Lukashenko repented that it was a strategic mistake of Moscow and Minsk not to send troops then.

Perhaps, starting the special operation on February 24, 2023, President Putin was seriously sure that everything would be exactly as described above. Then he should address all perplexed questions to his defense ministers Serdyukov and Shoigu, who, with their reforms, brought the Russian army to its current state. We will talk in detail about possible ways out of the RF Armed Forces from the systemic crisis, about the principles of forming the Army of Victory in detail later.


The above propaganda text can be criticized for a long time for inconsistency with the realities of the NWO. But the problem is not only and not so much in technology, but in the people who control it, sit under the shelling of large-caliber artillery of the enemy and, on the orders of the commanders, storm the Ukrainian fortified areas in the forehead. And here the most interesting begins.

It has been repeatedly noted that the most combat-ready units on our part are the PMC "Wagner" of Yevgeny Prigozhin, the now former People's Militia of the LDNR, as well as the elite units of the RF Armed Forces and the Russian Navy - the Airborne Forces, the MTR, the marines and the fighters of the BARS (Special Combat Army Reserve) . The ability of the bulk of the Russian army to conduct active offensive operations is still limited due to systemic problems with secure operational-tactical communications for coordinating interaction, means of aerial reconnaissance and artillery fire adjustment, a shortage of shells and the need for mobilized people to equip themselves at their own expense. The decision of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to significantly increase the number of airborne forces and marines is justified and can only be welcomed, but it is clear that you cannot write everyone into the military elite and you cannot build a full-fledged army around special forces.

Yes, Russia needs not only breakthrough forces, but also the army of Victory, large, trained, united and motivated, capable of reaching the Polish border and, if necessary, further. A natural question arises, on what principles should it be formed?

Since April 2023, a large-scale information campaign has begun, with the goal of attracting up to 400 contract servicemen to the RF Armed Forces. Everything around is hung with propaganda posters calling for signing a contract with the Ministry of Defense, and even directly indicates the specific amount of money that will be paid. There are certain successes in hiring new military personnel, but is this the army that we need? In order to steadfastly sit under the shelling of large-caliber artillery and MLRS and storm fortified areas, soldiers and officers need high personal motivation, which can be achieved by various means. The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the former NM LDNR have it, who believe that they are fighting for their homes and land. Paratroopers, Marines, MTRs and other "special forces" have intra-corporate traditions and honor, which, along with good training, provide them with high combat capability. Another means of motivation is money, and I would like to talk about them in more detail.

The main wave of “hate” against the ex-Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Serdyukov went after the start of the SVO, when it became clear that through his efforts the Ground Forces, the system of military education and mobilization, and logistics support were destroyed. However, before that, propaganda presented the fact that in return Russian military personnel received higher wages and military mortgages as his great achievement. And yes, people really joined the peacetime army in order to receive all the social benefits due. The downside of this approach to the formation of the RF Armed Forces was that after the start of the SVO, a lot of contract soldiers, alas, preferred to "five hundred". As in the old joke about working in the fire department: everything is fine, they pay normally, the team is wonderful, but like a fire, quit at least immediately. Those military professionals whom the Russian Defense Ministry was counting on terminated their contracts and, in the absence of wartime norms, did not bear any legal responsibility for this. The fire in September 2022 had to be filled with the forced mobilization of poorly trained reservists.

In fairness, we note that personal cowardice was by no means always the reason for dismissal for the “five hundredths”. The problem sometimes consisted in the inadequate command of some officers who did not have real combat experience, which in places led to unjustified losses among the personnel. Those wishing to continue fighting outside the structure of the RF Ministry of Defense are opening the doors to the Wagner PMC, which in itself is another big problem that requires a comprehensive discussion.

Thanks to the media activity of Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner is positioned as the best private army in the world, almost the only one in Russia capable of actively attacking. But why did she become like this?

Because she dragged into her staff the most intelligent soldiers and officers from the Russian army, who were tired of the army bureaucracy and other "charms" that are not customary to talk about in the media. Created in 2014, Wagner PMC first absorbed the most “frostbitten” in the good sense of the word volunteers from the Donbass, who were preferred to be taken from there to Syria in 2015, while the LDNR is returned back to Ukraine under the Minsk agreements. There they showed themselves perfectly, liberating one city after another, while the Russian Aerospace Forces bombed the "barmaley" from the air. High salaries and their own intracorporate culture have become attractive to Russian military personnel, who could well pay off the mortgage for a couple of “tourist trips”. It turns out that Russia needs one solid Wagner instead of Shoigu's army, what is Yevgeny Prigozhin hinting at?

God forbid. It should be remembered that mercenaries are people who fight for money. Who pays, he orders the music. It's good that today "musicians" are fighting on our side. But let's not forget that the oligarch Prigozhin has a whole army corps at hand, which he himself called "a paramilitary organized crime group with tanks, planes and helicopters", which is in a state of open conflict with the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu and the head of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Gerasimov. "Musicians" can still play a significant role in Russian domestic political life. So far so good, PMC "Wagner" can and even should continue to be used to break through the front in depth together with the Airborne Forces and Marines and the subsequent entry of motorized riflemen. But only. Sorry, but betting on mercenaries is crazy.

Then what remains as a possible core for the formation of the Russian Army of Victory?

"Fifteen Thousanders"

Of course, these are both corps of the former People's Militia of Donbass. Yes, the NM LDNR has a lot of supply problems, since they have always been on the rights of a “poor relative” for the Russian Ministry of Defense and local bigwigs have long saddled the topic of supplying “policemen”. But, despite this, it is the People's Militia that demonstrates the highest stamina in battle, which even President Putin personally admitted:

I am simply amazed by the courage of these people, including those who are fighting for their homeland at the forefront. These are not professional soldiers, two corps are formed from local residents, they fight better than professionals. They fight very courageously, very bravely and effectively.

These people, like the Armed Forces of Ukraine, have been at war for nine years already and have immeasurably more combat experience than the Russian army. They clearly know that their homes and families are behind them. Unlike our liberal intelligentsia, the “policemen” of Donbass have no illusions about the enemy and what he will do if he finds himself in Donetsk, Lugansk, Belgorod, Kursk or Moscow. For eight years in a row, for fifteen thousand rubles a month, they held the front against an enemy superior in everything and liberated Debaltseve.

The NM LDNR was a real force, which was very seriously thinned out, sent to storm the Ukrainian fortified areas.
But, despite the heavy losses, it is the former People's Militia, which joined the Russian Armed Forces on January 1, 2023, that can become the core for creating a real people's Russian army. Our mobilized have already begun to be sent to replenish both battered army corps, but this is not enough. Right there, in the Donbas, it is necessary to form new units and subunits around experienced fighters, turning companies into regiments, regiments into brigades, brigades into divisions, divisions into new army corps. Their morale and effectiveness will be immeasurably higher than those of any rear reserve units of the RF Ministry of Defense. There, in Donetsk, there is the Higher Combined Arms School, which trains officers right under the terrorist attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as the head of the school, Major General Mikhail Tikhonov, said:

In the army, our cadets have proven themselves well. First, they are motivated, they have the motivation to defend their homeland. We have been under constant shelling for eight years. The first cadets came here to study, many of them even took part in the fighting. The reviews are good, they fight well. <...> There are even awarded, one of them was awarded the Order of Courage.

For the Victory of Russia, it is precisely the people's army that knows exactly what it is fighting for, and not a hired one, where they come to fight for money, is needed. Let's clarify that this is not a call to pay 15 thousand. The dangerous work of the military must be paid with dignity, but it is definitely not money that should be the main motive today.
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  1. Evgeny Nurenko Offline Evgeny Nurenko
    Evgeny Nurenko (Eugene) 2 June 2023 10: 58
    For the Victory of Russia, it is precisely the people's army that is needed

    In order for the army to be popular, it is necessary that the government in the country first be popular, but is it popular? No. This is where you can finish)
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    2. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
      Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 2 June 2023 16: 30
      This is another paradox of the so-called NWO. The worker-peasant army is fighting for the interests of the oligarchs, the bourgeoisie and the capitalists. A unique case in history.
      1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
        scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 2 June 2023 23: 15
        Nothing unique, they fought the same way 150 years ago.
        1. Alexander Kovalev (Alexander Kovalev) 3 June 2023 08: 34
          150 years ago, only serfdom was abolished, the elites relied on faith in God and the king, most of the population lived in the countryside, was much less educated, there was no access to information and modern benefits, there was no historical experience of life under a different social and public order. Everyone understands the current Afro-capitalism, hypocrisy and fraud.
        2. valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
          valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 4 June 2023 17: 00
          Then they did not know that it could be otherwise.
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  3. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
    hellman anton (hellman anton) 2 June 2023 11: 20
    Naturally, the army must be a professional mercenary army. Fully consist of contract soldiers, in my opinion only a completely stupid person can talk about military service (especially in the form it is now)

    How the army will be motivated, the soldiers are not fools and see everything. Or someone thinks that this is a soldier? They see grain deals, Medvedchuks, endless pleas to launch an ammonia pipeline, they see how "geniuses of thought and strategy" entire columns of equipment at the beginning of the NWO were allowed into a breakthrough along the highway, where they were obviously just shot from an ambush, how many people died with the help of such ingenious breakthrough tactics in the beginning of the NWO? Like the soldiers don't know that? Do they not understand what kind of "brilliant orders" they are given?

    When I went to serve in the army (conscription), I was skeptical about TV fairy tales about analogues, raising an army, and so on. Unfortunately, I got even worse than I thought, because I didn’t even see the smell and speck of stories about having no analogues.

    The army should be completely contractual, this is not discussed in any way. What will change if a billion are called in under the command of those who said that UAVs are toys for children? Anyone who has not yet made large numbers of strike UAVs? What will change then? Intelligence is not needed, satellites are not needed - these are all inventions of the damned nat.

    I believe that some sergeant and lieutenant wants the best for the country and fights for the sake of the people? Of course.
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    2. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 3 June 2023 11: 21
      they see how "geniuses of thought and strategy" at the beginning of the NWO allowed entire columns of equipment into a breakthrough along the highway, where they were obviously just shot from an ambush, how many people died with the help of such ingenious breakthrough tactics at the beginning of the NWO?

      There are documentary footage of these columns being shot by the Ukronazis...
      The guys who were on rotation to replace the consolidated detachment of my nephew, an OMON colonel, were bombed ... When unloading or on the march - he did not specify ... They were without cover ... There were ... One and a half hundred people ... Left for one more term - until they recruited new ones to replace them. Yes, and sending him there at the beginning of March last, 22 years old, he told him - "Throw all this nonsense out of your head about the "brotherly" people. Throw it out - and forget it! ... First you shoot - disassembly later. But first you shoot .." .
      And then this nightmare, in the Kharkov direction ... And his message to me in the "Cart" - "Lekseich, you are the best. Thank you."
      And he has both "Chechen" under his shoulder .. and business trips to hot spots.
      Not a boy anymore...
  4. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 2 June 2023 11: 25
    In order for the army to be truly powerful, people must clearly understand what exactly they must fight and die for ... And - unconditionally believe in their leadership. That is why - we won the Second World War. And this is exactly what is missing now. Hence the results..

    For the Soviet Motherland and Comrade Stalin - I personally would not hesitate to climb under a tank with a grenade .. For the bourgeois Russian Federation and Mr. Putin - no, I won’t climb. And I think most of them are.
    1. Evgeny Nurenko Offline Evgeny Nurenko
      Evgeny Nurenko (Eugene) 2 June 2023 11: 32
      for Comrade Stalin, you powerfully gave it out. They fought not for him, but for their homeland at that moment, which was attacked by the enemy. Why fight today - for Putin? for his oligarchs?
      1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
        Paul3390 (Paul) 2 June 2023 14: 48
        They fought not for him, but for their homeland

        You see - at that time people somehow did not share these two concepts. Comrade Stalin - and personified the Soviet Motherland.
        1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
          Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 2 June 2023 19: 43
          That is, if hypothetically the USSR at the time of the German attack was headed not by Stalin but by someone else, then there would be no Motherland and everyone would have fled instead of defending the country, or what? Was it all about Stalin alone? As it says...

          Do not make yourself an idol
          1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
            Paul3390 (Paul) 2 June 2023 23: 14
            I probably somehow did not express myself clearly? Strange .. Everything seems to be clearly stated - Comrade Stalin is simply the personification of Soviet power. Personification so to speak..
            1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
              Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 2 June 2023 23: 31
              Yeah. God in the flesh.
          2. Dingo Offline Dingo
            Dingo (Victor) 3 June 2023 11: 42
            So I understand - this is your expression, apparently, not from a great mind? What to do - the exam is bearing fruit ...

            ...Let's drink for the Motherland, let's drink for Stalin!
            Let's drink - and pour again.
            Let's drink to those who commanded the companies
            Who froze in the snow.
            Who made their way to Leningrad by swamps
            Breaking the throat of the enemy ...

            You have probably never heard this song. And I heard it as a kid, in 65, from my father-front-line soldier and his guys, who gathered at our house for 20 years of Victory ...
            Survivors from that call for 40 years ...
          3. valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
            valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 4 June 2023 17: 06
            Stalin is a symbol of that era when the leaders thought about the country and the people, and not about their wallets
        2. Alexander Kovalev (Alexander Kovalev) 3 June 2023 08: 43
          The state should be for the people, not the people for the state
          1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 3 June 2023 12: 41
            Well, that's ideal.
            And that's not everywhere. Asian despotisms are just arranged in such a way that there are people there for the state.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 2 June 2023 11: 28
    In general, for everything good, against everything bad.
    In the meantime, polished "experts", oligarchs, officials, golden children do not bear any responsibility, they fatten themselves at the expense of the population and sit in the warm rear, but chic over the hill.

    As for the hurray-forecasts, they are all for fooling the population. Wrote, fooled, forgotten.

    Who remembers the flood of books in the 10s? NATO invades Ukraine, Russian and Ukrainian partisans together smash columns of leopards and abrams, a miracle weapon, the brotherhood of peoples, special forces pull corrupt officials out of limousines ...
    In real life, Moscow is bombing Kyiv, and information about "meat assaults" is leaking to the media
  6. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 2 June 2023 11: 40
    A contract army is the path to defeat. Mercenary army - a threat to the state.
    We need a call and a complete revision of the curriculum. Paratroopers are taught to break bottles on their heads, border guards are taught to walk next to a dog. The Russian army cannot be less than 2-2,5 million people. At least 1 million in the ground forces. Airborne divisions must be reduced and reformatted into motorized rifle divisions. By no means reducing the level of combat training.
    And stop the crazy biathlons and stepping. Every day, training, training and more military training. As the saying goes, "sweat keeps the blood."
    After compulsory service (must be returned 2 years) annual fees. At least for a week. But real fees.
    There are many problems and for sure, there are a lot of questions that need to be settled. In any case, defense spending should be increased.
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    3. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
      Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 2 June 2023 16: 42
      I agree that the airborne divisions have already become obsolete. We have not seen and will not see landings, simply because now air defense systems are much more effective than before. Marine landing is also a big question. Special Forces of the Airborne Forces and the MP, maybe, but no more. We need a revolution in military affairs, the General Staff of the Russian Federation and Minister Shoigu are not capable of this. It is necessary to rethink the principles of conducting modern combat, then a new image of the RF Armed Forces will appear.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 2 June 2023 19: 21
        A couple of airborne divisions must still be left. Maybe brigades. As well as the marines. But 7 airborne divisions today look redundant.
        Nevertheless, no one canceled local wars or police operations.
        But in its current form, using the airborne divisions as elite infantry, not supported by heavy artillery and armored vehicles, is simply criminal. And if they are saturated with heavy armored vehicles, then they will become motorized rifles. At the same time, the practice of intensive training should be extended to all the Armed Forces.
    4. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
      Vox Populi (vox populi) 2 June 2023 20: 37
      The Russian army cannot be less than 2-2,5 million people.
      ...After compulsory service (must be returned 2 years) annual fees. At least for a week. But real fees.

      In many ways (but not all) you are right. For demographic and economic reasons, the current limit the number of the Armed Forces - 2 million people, and it will be very difficult to provide it if do everything right! Two years of military service will not fundamentally change anything if the soldiers are taught as they did before and now. At the same time, with intensive training in VUS that do not require high qualifications (shooter, grenade launcher, etc.), one year is enough (of course, with subsequent real annual fee). Squad commanders and above, as well as positions requiring high qualifications, should be replaced by contractors.
      Well, as they say on the topic of the day: in the current conditions, it has long been necessary to attract on a voluntary basis "reserves" of the 3rd category (perhaps also "retired" from the age group 5 years older) to recruit rear units for the protection and defense of objects (for example, air defense calculations ) and the repair of weapons and military equipment (unless, of course, there are than provide them).
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 3 June 2023 14: 22
        At present, the strength of the RF Armed Forces is slightly more than 2 million people. Of these, 1,25 million people are military personnel. That is, raising the number to 2,5 million people is quite an achievable bar.
        Two years will just increase the number of the Armed Forces.
        I wrote about intensive training.
        Command positions (even sergeants) must be staffed with contract soldiers. Moreover, for contract servicemen, the conditions for serving must be changed. In case of refusal to participate in hostilities, the contract is not simply terminated, but all the goodies received by the serviceman are returned.
        An army without a rear does not exist. This means that the rear services should be filled with those who are unfit for military service. This is not a sinecure. Maintenance of equipment is quite a difficult job. As well as logistics.
        The NWO has shown that the army needs change. From the history. After the Finnish war, an all-army meeting was held in Moscow, where many shortcomings of the organization of the Red Army were revealed. From tactics to samples of equipment and logistics.
        1. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
          Vox Populi (vox populi) 4 June 2023 13: 12
          No. The civilian personnel of the Armed Forces is different!
    5. Alexander Kovalev (Alexander Kovalev) 3 June 2023 09: 17
      After the conflict, there should be a normal completed contract army no more than 1% of the country's population. Not on paper. From aggressive wars there is nuclear deterrence. It is necessary to reduce the level of militarism in society and the opinion that we will press everyone to the nail. And there will be less violence inside and the neighbors will be calmer. With such a size and demographics, Russia will not be able to withstand an army of 2,5 million and even security officials and related personnel for 10-15 million. In addition, conscripts will be demotivated (everyone has their own plans for life - in the midst of the 21st century), and such a military apparatus will constantly decompose and will be a burden on society in peacetime.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 3 June 2023 14: 27
        1% of the country's population is 1,4 million people. Or even less. Not serious. The current army is 2 million people.
        Nuclear weapons do not save us from aggressive wars. Nuclear weapons save us from total war. What will you do if the invader does NOT use nuclear weapons? I didn’t hear that conscripts were demotivated while serving for 2 years. Demotivation occurs if soldiers build dachas for generals instead of combat training.
        If an army of 2,5 people will be a burden on society, then you can safely give up. At once.
    6. valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
      valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 4 June 2023 17: 10
      In my opinion, the contract and mercenary army are twin brothers. And they fight for whoever pays the most.
  7. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 2 June 2023 12: 40
    It's not even worth talking about what will not happen. That's when people will see the word Motherland, then there will be enlightenment in the minds. Now there is an evacuation from the Belgorod region.Smart action. But along with this clever action, the following provocations are allowed. This has already been tested in the Donbass. We are often shown the Armed Forces of Ukraine as the Nazi horde, capable of doing whatever they wish. In politics, as in life. What you allow for yourself is what the villains will do. It depends on you whether you stay clean or drown in the mud.
  8. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 2 June 2023 12: 52
    Everything was. And the country and the army and the people. Everything was yelled at.
    Too late to drink Borjomi, it too
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  10. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 2 June 2023 14: 07
    After reading this publication, a seditious thought arose: Is the respected Author hinting at the need to move the capital of the Russian Federation from Moscow to ... Donetsk? This is of course fantastic.
    But there is a real option in order to initiate "military reform": forcibly move the residence of V. Putin from Novo-Ogaryovo to the Belgorod region!
  11. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 2 June 2023 14: 47
    It is necessary to start with the fact that the power in the Kremlin and the government should be made to work as in wartime conditions. Remove officials whose main interests are with the enemy: real estate, assets, families. if today they are not traitors, then they are definitely saboteurs. You can’t defeat the enemy by hiding behind the NWO. We must fight, and not carry out a humanitarian operation saving the lives of the enemy.
    1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
      scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 2 June 2023 23: 19
      Democracy is needed to change officials according to the aspirations of the people. Otherwise, which ones you set, enjoy those.
  12. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 2 June 2023 15: 00
    The main trouble is that the authorities are trying, without changing anything in the crooked socio-political system that has developed in the Russian Federation, to slip into a difficult and dangerous situation that has become the result of a long-term chain of mistakes. The situation in the army is one of its consequences. The calculation is to a) hold on and b) agree. And that's unlikely to happen. Hence the confusion and unmotivated strata of society, albeit for different reasons. There is no easy way out of the situation.
    And in terms of technology, I really confirm that some of the things described and laid down in the 80s were dragged around exhibitions, but they didn’t give money for R&D.
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  13. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 2 June 2023 16: 14
    A wonderful article and it is wonderful that it highlights the main problem of our army, the lack of motivation. What are we actually fighting for and what is the purpose of the NWO. Not only the army does not understand this, no one understands this. Deputy Secretary of the Security Council Medvedev, Deputy Foreign Minister Galuzin, Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Tolstoy voice the most radical solutions to the problem of Ukraine: denazification and demilitarization of all Ukraine, the use of nuclear weapons if necessary, etc. and so on. Meanwhile, V.V. Putin says that the goal of the SVO is to protect the Donbass. As they say, feel the difference. Moreover, it is interesting that Putin does not expose his deputies: Patrushev, Lavrov and Volodin as clowns. The patriotic blizzard is carried by their deputies, the question is why? To raise the spirit of couch turbopatriots? Yes, armchair turbopatriots hear what they want to hear. To raise the spirit of the army? But the army, which has been sitting in the trenches for a year, understands better than anyone that Napoleonic efforts are needed to implement Napoleonic plans, and it is clear in the trenches that they are not being taken, half measures are being taken. And here is an important note, but the army soldier needs motivation. But no less than the army, offensive actions are needed, which, as the soldier can see, bring closer the end of the war, which is difficult, first of all for the soldier. This is another reason to motivate soldiers to fight. If a soldier sits in a trench for a year and understands that he will sit in this trench for a year and two and three and ten years until the politicians agree, and nothing depends on him personally in this war, no matter how he fights, while during the Second World War, the soldier knew that his actions brought victory closer. The end of the war depends on him, and not on politicians who may be able to come to an agreement. And this motivated no less than the realization that he was fighting for his homeland.
    1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
      Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 2 June 2023 19: 46
      Here it is more appropriate to compare not with the Second World War, but with the First World War or the Russian-Japanese. An incomprehensible war with incomprehensible goals and a predictable outcome.
      1. vladivan Offline vladivan
        vladivan (Vladimir) 3 June 2023 12: 22
        I have been writing for a long time that its identical to WW1. And today's authorities are very reminiscent of the actions of the people of Ingushetia. GDP - Nicholas 2
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      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 3 June 2023 14: 30
        War is clear why
        The aims of the war are quite clear
        The outcome is predictable.

        There is no need to spread your misunderstandings to everyone.
  14. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 2 June 2023 16: 50
    What to discuss. The army must be regular. In the Russian Federation, capitalism, hence the arguments hired, contract, people. It all depends on the social structure of the state. It's like in the Soviet Union there was a police, and in the Russian Federation the police. The police guard the people's property, and the police protect the private property of the capitalists.
  15. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
    Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 2 June 2023 16: 58
    What should be the army? No need to invent an electric scooter.
    70% - contract, 30% - draft. Service life 2 years. The call is needed to form a mobilization reserve. Yes, we need bases for storing equipment and weapons, but we need reduced parts. We need full-fledged military schools and academies. The total number is 1,5-2 million in peacetime with the possibility of tripling in wartime. Well, in general, this is military arithmetic and not even mathematics. I will be objected that it is very expensive and where to get the money for all this. The answer is very simple: you have to work. Make your own machines, cars, planes, etc. and so on.
    Well, if not, then we will sit on the defensive and wait for the Western partners to put us at the negotiating table.
    Also, a small note. A contract army and a mercenary army are two big differences, as they say in Odessa, which will still be ours!
  16. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 2 June 2023 18: 00
    Quote: Mikhail L.
    After reading this publication, a seditious thought arose: Is the respected Author hinting at the need to move the capital of the Russian Federation from Moscow to ... Donetsk? This is of course fantastic.
    But there is a real option in order to initiate "military reform": forcibly move the residence of V. Putin from Novo-Ogaryovo to the Belgorod region!

    Two hands for. This is a chance for Russia to rise above everything that the concepts of "Moscow" and "Putin" represent. I wrote for a long time that only those citizens of the Russian Federation who live in the DPR, LPR, PMR are much more "Russian" than those who live in the Russian Federation. Every day, every minute, these citizens are being tested, just because they have a Russian passport in their pocket! But they remain to be citizens of the Russian Federation! Look at the photos of the streets of Donetsk, Lugansk, Tiraspol, there are more flags of the Russian Federation than in any city of the Russian Federation. These people who have passed the test are the most faithful. That's why. Putin to Donetsk (Belgorod) for the entire time of the NWO. Kharkiv to release and transfer to adm. submission to Lugansk (Belgorod), Dnepropetrovsk to release and transfer to adm. management of Donetsk, Odessa to release and transfer to adm. submission to Tiraspol. These people deserve it! And those who now live in Kharkov, Odessa ...
  17. Otto Davar Offline Otto Davar
    Otto Davar (Otto Davar) 2 June 2023 18: 18
    For today, the main thing, according to VV-

    Today we will deal with the same issues in relation to ensuring the security of Russia, in this case, domestic political security, taking into account the efforts that our ill-wishers are still making and are intensifying them in order to stir up the situation inside the Russian Federation.

    Got it?
  18. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 2 June 2023 21: 26
    Stopitsot divisions of the Airborne Forces and the GRU ...

    Dear author. The quote you cited comes down to trivial banter and trolling with this sentence. And you still don't understand
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  20. Enoch Offline Enoch
    Enoch (Enoch) 2 June 2023 21: 33
    For the interests of what people is the Russian army fighting now? Everything under the sign "Ж" or "Z" as you like. Only in the Russian alphabet it is not.
  21. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
    Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 2 June 2023 23: 05
    During the Great Patriotic War, the vast majority of fighters were called up through mobilization. There were volunteers, but they were clearly not enough to win.
    To win, you need a well-armed, trained, disciplined and sufficient in size army. But motivation is another issue. And what do we have: weapons are not enough, training is not the highest and is different in different parts, discipline in terms of stamina - I don’t know, the counterattack will show, the number is insufficient. Apparently, if, as a result of the truce, Russia gets the Donbass and the south in its current state, this is already a victory. And there will be no peace treaty in any case. My dream is the line of demarcation throughout the Dnieper.
    1. Alexander Kovalev (Alexander Kovalev) 3 June 2023 09: 31
      Aleksey, your dream is the demarcation line along the Dnieper, and the dream of many (though not all) is not to participate in these events. And this is not connected with some kind of betrayal, dislike for the Motherland or liberal sentiments. Tell me, is it possible that the size of the army and your goals and dreams are achieved only at the expense of your like-minded people, as well as those who have connected their lives with law enforcement agencies and the state apparatus?
      1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 3 June 2023 19: 13
        Of course, my like-minded people are not enough to staff the ground forces of the Russian Federation with volunteers, therefore mobilization. Exactly the same story in Ukraine.
        Alas, the dream of individuals and the problems of the state are different. Sometimes it matches, often it doesn't. At the same time, the influence of people on the state is very weak: be it Ukraine or Russia, or even Germany. It's just that modern media, in principle, can make anything out of the majority of ordinary people: even a racial Nazi, even a zombie democrat. All this is done for the good of man. As a result, the state is often run by venal politicians put in place by some groups or, even worse, by foreign states.
        It is clear that state interests may not coincide with the desires of the people, both in Russia and in Ukraine. And there are many such people. Ukraine wanted to join NATO, regardless of its neighbor Russia, which initially did not pose any danger to it, but rather wanted some kind of integration, cooperation. And NATO poses a significant threat to Russia. That's the whole point. And Donbass is already an additional factor. They could not fail to understand this in Ukraine. What then? I answer - the venality of the leadership of Ukraine to the West, primarily the United States. As for Putin, no matter how much dirt is poured on him, he is a patriot of Russia. Another thing is that he started the war unsuccessfully, adventurously, and this is his fault. If he had at the beginning of the NMD another 200 thousand armed soldiers with equipment, the war could have ended a year ago.
  22. staer-62 Offline staer-62
    staer-62 (Andrei) 3 June 2023 09: 13
    We need an army of the children of officials and oligarchs, then there will be everything, then nuclear weapons will be used and anyone in the West who dares to say at least something will be destroyed.
  23. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 3 June 2023 10: 30
    By the way .. Yakov Kedmi expressed his opinion on the subject of NWO a couple of days ago. So, he began quite specifically and harshly - it is enough for the Kremlin to bring Russian tactical nuclear weapons to the level of divisions and directly announce this - and .. that's it!
  24. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 3 June 2023 19: 33
    Hired? Or folk? - FIGHTABLE.
  25. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 3 June 2023 21: 36
    In order for the army to become truly popular, it is necessary to return Soviet power. People's armies are in the people's republics of the DPRK, China, DPR, LPR in accordance with the name, something like that. In capitalist countries, it seems like contract armies, with the exception of some African countries.
    1. Alexander Kovalev (Alexander Kovalev) 4 June 2023 12: 25
      A professional army or a draft army does not depend on the socio-economic system. In the draft army for two years, there is no point in building dachas for generals and clearing snow in cubes. It's like a prison for a person. Oh yes, and China is the purest capitalist country
      1. valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
        valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 4 June 2023 17: 19
        So the point is in the generals, and not in the draft.
  26. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 3 June 2023 23: 19
    The army must be united. The story of the mining of Wagner's escape routes by the Moscow Region is chaos. If there is no public investigation, then what can one count on in this SVO.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 4 June 2023 13: 41
      The story of the mining of Wagner's escape routes by the Moscow Region is chaos.

      Throw off a link to the "story", otherwise they will suddenly start an investigation, and I will be off topic :).
  27. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
    Adm Hts (AdmHts) 4 June 2023 14: 56
    For the Victory of Russia, it is precisely the people's army that knows exactly what it is fighting for, and not a hired one, where they come to fight for money, is needed.

    Nonsense ...
    Professionals should fight, and for money or on duty - a second time ...
    Because "war" is a profession, hard and with a high mortality rate ...
    You can recruit an "army" from the people, they are of no use - he is untrained, not "drilled", psychologically not sustained - he did not smell gunpowder.
    As a result - cannon fodder ...
    With the same success, you can recruit doctors, engineers, etc. from the people
    Do you know examples of "a people's army that knows exactly what it is fighting for"?
    Yes, there were volunteers, and not a few, but they never did the weather
    People's armies were recruited through mobilization - that is, coercion
    And what they are fighting for - propaganda told them, each country has its own ...
    In 99.9% - for the capitalists and their families
    In our case, there is one exception - WWII
    The current state ideology will remind every minute: there is a people's war in order to prepare young people to die for the "Motherland".
    There is a "war" of the people: the tops are resting! Those fattening from the sale of raw materials - life has improved. Even if you kill the rest of the people for the Motherland - put three heaps on it, the little souls of parasites do not hurt. It is only necessary to educate new generations and school the old ones completely - to silently die for the gentlemen who spin all sorts of their military and other scams. Our people are terribly capable: they will sew up their own mouths, they will go to death without any conversations in the ranks. Why not fight with this! At the same time, not the master's blood will flow, but human blood, which for our masters is real water, ugh!
  28. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 6 June 2023 12: 32
    Contract soldiers are fighting, the army of the people is standing in the backyard.
  29. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 6 June 2023 14: 16
    Before asking what kind of army we need, we need to ask the question, what goals are we going to set for this army?

    Yes, Russia needs not only breakthrough forces, but also the army of Victory, large, trained, united and motivated, capable of reaching the Polish border and, if necessary, further. A natural question arises, on what principles should it be formed?

    Unlike our liberal intelligentsia, the “policemen” of Donbass have no illusions about the enemy and what he will do when he finds himself in Donetsk, Lugansk, Belgorod, Kursk or Moscow.

    Those. the author sees an alternative: either we defeat Ukraine and NATO by reaching the Polish border, but it will be needed further (probably to the Atlantic), and we will hold a victory parade on Khreshchatyk, or better, on the Champs Elysees. And we provide ourselves with a peaceful, calm, prosperous life. Either we are defeated by Ukraine, the cities and population are brutally destroyed by Bandera, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine hold a victory parade on Red Square. There is actually a third option:

    ... the trend is such that this war may drag on for more than one year, or even develop into a permanent armed conflict along the Indo-Pakistani model with regular bloody exacerbations and truces,

    And the author offers us to choose: either an endless war, or the victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the occupation and genocide of the Russian people, or our complete and unconditional victory over Ukraine, or better, over the NATO bloc standing behind it. In this formulation of the question, the choice is clear. However, even the author has to admit:

    However, the problem is that even if the Supreme Commander seriously wishes to reach the Polish border here and now, for this he will need an army, which we do not yet have.

    What army do we have? Our army is a conglomeration of units with different professional backgrounds and motivations. There are contract soldiers, but they are different: more or less trained and motivated elite troops: the Airborne Forces and the Marine Corps and ordinary contract soldiers, who, after a series of defeats, massively "five hundred", there are mobilized, with which ordinary units are diluted. There are Chechens, there is the national guard, there is Wagner PMC. as separate divisions. Finally, there is the DLNR army, which became part of the AFRF, but as an integral structure, it is perhaps one of the most combat-ready, because it fights for its land and its loved ones. The rest of our army has no such understanding. However, Wagner fights well, the motivation is based on iron discipline and a good salary. And professionalism is based on good training under the guidance of officers from the Russian army. Colonel General Mizintsev, the hero of Syria and Mariupol, became the deputy commander of Wagner. Those. there are the best officer cadres that have not taken root in our army.
    Does Russia need a people's or mercenary army? The People's Conscription and Volunteer Army will fight effectively only with a clear understanding that you can protect your homes and families only by reaching Lviv, and then Paris. Attacks on the Belgorod region should bring this understanding closer, but nothing will happen without unambiguous calls and, most importantly, actions from above. Well, people know that the children of our elite are in the Netherlands, England, the USA, at best in Dubai. So calls: let's protect our families from the enemy will sound hypocritical. The second problem of our army is that in order to solve such large-scale tasks, it must be at least twice as numerous. And even for a war with Ukraine, we need the most advanced weapons and in large quantities. What can we say about the war with NATO. We cannot provide modern weapons to today's army, which is not too numerous, and the T-54 and T-62 are going to the front. We cannot cover the sky of the country from a few Ukrainian "swifts", all air defense on the LBS is busy, but what will happen when thousands of tomahawks fly? The political aspect of the problem. For the whole world, Russia is the aggressor, and all this talk that we are defending ourselves, fighting so that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not come to Russia and cause genocide, massacre, this is talk in favor of the poor. If they are not believed even in Russia, then it is not necessary to count that they will be believed somewhere. So our war for our salvation will be perceived from the outside as aggression and the seizure of Ukraine, and then of Europe.
    Bottom line: to motivate the army to war, and the people to militarize the country, until it works out. Neither the tops nor the bottoms want. Armaments, neither quantitatively nor qualitatively, allow creating an army capable of crushing at least Ukraine. Foreign policy, we will be in the position of an aggressor and in complete isolation. Therefore, the author's wishes have to be recognized as completely unrealistic.