White flag of diplomacy: Borrell called the condition for negotiations on the conflict in Ukraine


Completely ignoring the most basic primary principles of observance of objectivity and focus on dialogue, European diplomacy without a twinge of conscience admits to its own failure and defeat, or rather, that it openly rejects professional ethics and supports one of the parties to the conflict in Ukraine. Simply put, no one is going to look for a solution, and the diplomats themselves agree to a "talk of guns." This means that there can be neither negotiations nor a peace treaty at present, even theoretically - the West is putting it on escalation.


And this is openly declared in Europe. Thus, the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs, Josep Borrell, during a meeting of the Cercle d'Economia business forum in Barcelona, ​​admitted that the Russian side would not sit down at the negotiating table on the Ukrainian conflict until it achieved its results, that is, victory and achieve the goals of the SVO. It is no secret that Borrell himself wants approximately the same result in relation to the politicians EU Ukraine.

Also, Mr. Borrell noted that the Western allies of Kyiv allegedly regularly call on the Russian Federation for negotiations, while the Russian side does not show readiness for them. That is, the diplomat means that Moscow allegedly agrees to negotiations, but in fact does not work in this direction.

According to Borrell, he is "not particularly optimistic" about what will happen in Ukraine this summer (a likely counter-offensive), because he believes that the Russian side of the conflict has a clear intention to win in the war zone at any cost. Thus, based on the logic of the statements of the chief EU diplomat, the only condition for starting negotiations to resolve the conflict in Ukraine can only be the victory of one of the parties.

It is hard to imagine a more frank throwing of the white flag of defeat and refusal even from attempts to find a compromise without falling into extremes. In this case, the goals of the existence of a diplomatic institution and the mission of the European Union are unclear. If Kyiv is not called for negotiations, and Borrell directly hinted that no one in Brussels would do this, then it is almost impossible to hope for a peaceful outcome. At least in the short term.
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  1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 30 May 2023 09: 24
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    to find a compromise

    ?
    Didn't Lech Walesa, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, declare his desire to reduce the number of Russians to 50 million?
    The collective West intends to use its Ukrainian satellite and the fifth column to blow up the Russian Federation from within - to destroy its statehood and seize natural resources!
    So what can we hope to negotiate with wolves in sheep's clothing?
  2. Artificial Intelligence (artificial intelligence) 30 May 2023 15: 37
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    strange interpretation of his statements. to assume that the leadership of the Russian Federation will still try again to carry out new offensive operations to win - what is wrong with this? maybe the Russian Federation really has such intentions. and why you don’t like them, because Russian patriots also have them.

    in general, the statement that Putin is preparing new offensives and there is no optimism about offensives by the Armed Forces of Ukraine could be considered an attempt to sober up the anti-Russian West and Ukraine, just to understand that it would be better to sit down at the negotiating table as soon as possible and not tempt fate in the near future, expecting unpleasant surprises from the RF Armed Forces.
    the only thing that prevents such an interpretation is that in another source I read that along with these statements, he also spoke about the need to give Ukraine more weapons.
  3. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 30 May 2023 16: 11
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    We are "loved", but we are STRONGER? Is this the current policy of the country's leadership? So they will fall in love to the point of exhaustion. Girls with "reduced social responsibility" know this.
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 31 May 2023 07: 20
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      An article from the series: "from a sick head to a healthy one." Interestingly, what are the successes of Russian diplomacy in this field? After all, there is a rule - "where the guns spoke, diplomacy failed ..."
  4. Raymond Offline Raymond
    Raymond (Raymond) 30 May 2023 21: 55
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    Without wanting to belittle the image, we must nevertheless note that the most ardent Russophobes in the world at present are Ukrainians, that is, Russophiles, which is directly related to the expansion of the "Russian Empire", which turned into a marching "Union of Republics", and then, eventually, in the disintegrating Federation, according to your peers.
    It may be hard to admit, but it seems to me that your current problems are related to your past history.

    Aside from the promises of a better world of decadence, neuroses, doom, dollars (or euros) and marriage for all, the West has not pushed you towards devastation, Russophobia and anti-communism, except to hear you scream it from the rooftops.
    If you're not convinced, then look at what the West is doing to China, which is a communist country and whose economy continues to grow, and even now without your knowledge.
    Why is communism still working in China and not in Russia?
    Why does he allow for a different but booming economy in China? ...which has never been proven in Russia.

    The answers are in your home, not in the West or the East or the Middle East.
    Maybe in Asia...but it's not safe.
    1. imjarek Offline imjarek
      imjarek (imjarek) 31 May 2023 10: 26
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      Yes! North Korea is also a "communist" state. He even has an atomic bomb.
      And Russia has. But Ukraine-no! So where do we look for "answers"?
      1. Raymond Offline Raymond
        Raymond (Raymond) 31 May 2023 23: 32
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        Thus, it can be observed that 75% of the communist countries "that have the bomb" have a bad economy...

        Let those who think of a "better" economy in the hope of a "better" standard of living do not favor the bomb.

        Maybe there is some way forward?

        Or move to a "capitalist" economy (but don't treat your bomb as capital in the first place).

        So, on the face of it, I would say that the elements of the answer are perhaps more on the Ukrainian side... as evidence that they are being bombed every day and they have hope for better days, for the end of this bad period, to a new beginning.
        On the other hand, your country is one that bombs, it is not bombed, but, just to read here, your rather gloomy statements about your vision of the future, the decline of civilization, the lack of a "promise of dawn" as one of your famous compatriots wrote (Romain Gary).
  5. xy.znn.ru Offline xy.znn.ru
    xy.znn.ru (xyz) 31 May 2023 07: 01
    +1
    There is no point in negotiating if the NATO threat to Russia continues and even increases. Ukraine cannot be in NATO, it must be demilitarized and denazified.
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  6. Ezekiel 25-17 Offline Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 (Andrei) 31 May 2023 09: 56
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    This means that Ukraine will have to be wiped off the face of the Earth ...
  7. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 31 May 2023 15: 40
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    Everyone hears what they want to hear. I was hooked in Borel's speech by another passage.

    I hope that when you take up your posts, this war will already be over. I do not expect that it will last so long that you will have to deal with it. But after it there will be a period of instability, and we will have to build a new security order. How do we include Russia in it - Russia after Putin - that is a practical question that will require a lot of diplomatic work.

    Those. Europe does not reject Russia. Europe responds to Putin's Russia. Europe rejects Russia's desire for regional leadership in the post-Soviet space, and not even this desire itself, but the desire to assert this leadership by force. Not only Ukraine, but also the closest neighbor Kazakhstan and Transcaucasia, and the countries of Central Asia reject the leading and guiding role of Russia. NVO buried the project of creating a mini-empire in the post-Soviet space. Vladimir Vladimirovich understands this and this is one of the reasons why he limited his goals in Ukraine to the Donbass. Yes, our army in its current state is not capable of large-scale offensives, but also of serious attempts to change this situation, i.e. to strengthen the army is not done. The plan to recreate the mini-empire has finally been archived. Putin's Russia has lost Putin. Will Vladimir Vladimirovich have enough wisdom not to be nominated for the next term? It is impossible to continue the neo-imperial policy, the policy associated with the name of Putin. Time requires a different policy, but so far the situation has been put on pause. But to try to extend this pause for another 12 years?! Not only will it be 12 years of international isolation and severe economic problems, it will be 12 years of howling ... NWO, when 45 people die per day at Wagner alone 12x365x45 = 197100. Isn't the price too high. It's nice to be president, but you also have to think about the country.
    But Putin's Russia is not only Putin, it is also a huge number of Russian citizens who share these imperial ideas, convinced that there is no alternative to the forceful solution of problems. But these are mostly couch strategists who are not personally threatened by imperial politics. Meanwhile, there are few who want to give their lives for these ideas, but there are many who do not want to sacrifice a decrease in their living standards for these ideas. By the way, information for those who want to brandish a nuclear baton, Borel said that if Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, then the Russian army will be destroyed and destroyed by CONVENTIONAL weapons.
    1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
      Mikhail L. 31 May 2023 16: 16
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      Borel said that if Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, then the Russian army will be destroyed and destroyed by CONVENTIONAL weapons

      ? Putin on nuclear exchange:

      We, as martyrs, will go to heaven, and they will simply die!
      1. Pembo Offline Pembo
        Pembo 31 May 2023 16: 25
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        And then there's the nuclear threat, and Putin says he's not bluffing. Well, he simply cannot afford to bluff. And it should be clear that those who support Ukraine, the European Union, the US and NATO are not bluffing either. And any nuclear attack on Ukraine will lead to a military response, not nuclear, but such that the Russian army will be destroyed. So Putin has nothing to bluff.
        1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
          Mikhail L. 31 May 2023 16: 49
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          Almost a quote:

          Do not make yourself an idol

          ...from Borrell!
      2. Raymond Offline Raymond
        Raymond (Raymond) 1 June 2023 00: 20
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        This is true ! ... but "ordinary" death, not nuclear.
        1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
          Mikhail L. 1 June 2023 04: 53
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          It is fundamentally?
    2. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 31 May 2023 16: 23
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      Quote from Pembo
      the situation has been put on hold. But to try to extend this pause for another 12 years?! Not only will it be 12 years of international isolation and severe economic problems

      The essence of the problem is that even if Navalny comes and starts paying and repenting, the main sanctions will not be lifted from us. Electronics, engines, industrial equipment - all this will no longer be supplied to us from the West.
      McDonald's, Zara, Eurovision - please...
      The amount for damages will be put up by no means hundreds of billions of dollars.
      And in such a size that only the annual % on this amount will be hundreds of billions of dollars - in fact, the entire foreign exchange earnings.
      So the only thing we will get in exchange for the Crimea and annual payments of hundreds of billions of dollars is the cessation of shelling of the Belgorod region.

      Wagner alone kills 45 people a day

      More mines, engineers, cameras and thermal imagers - and, accordingly, fewer people on the front line.
      anything will come out cheaper than $ 400 billion a year by%....
      1. Pembo Offline Pembo
        Pembo 31 May 2023 17: 18
        +1
        I am sure that Europe will not benefit from the decline in the living standards of the inhabitants of Russia. On the contrary, they will do everything to improve it. Is it in their interests that the growth of discontent fuels revanchist sentiments? Secondly, why do you think that Western manufacturers will not return to Russia. There will always be cheap labor no more expensive than in today's China. They already worked here and assessed the level of education. In addition, the West may well consider Russia as a partial alternative to China in the role of a workshop. Especially America, which is preparing for a confrontation with China. Russia, of course, will not replace China, but proximity to Europe and the desire to make a showcase out of Russia can play a positive role. Why do you think that the West will need a half-strangled Russia, moreover, Russia is democratic and a potential ally in the confrontation with China. In addition, the CCP will show its population to a half-strangled Russia and say this is what they will do to us if the West defeats us.
        Of course, the authorities are interested in convincing people that the West will rob them. While she herself unprecedentedly robs the people. The oligarchs are robbing, the officials who are plundering the country are robbing, they are robbing the state by spending the budget not on schools, hospitals and pensions, but on the insane militarization of the country, and the money is being mastered, but the defense is not increasing. The army, aviation and navy somehow did not show themselves in the NWO. And the fact that you are in favor of continuing the war over money, I don’t even want to comment.
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 31 May 2023 17: 58
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          Quote from Pembo
          why do you think that Western manufacturers will not return to Russia.

          will not give.
          Even Germany and Japan are still "not allowed" to have a number of technologies.
          Even in the best years, the Russian Federation was not allowed to buy modern equipment for the production of microcircuits.

          Why do you think that the West will need a half-strangled Russia

          To show everyone, "this will be the case with anyone who dares to encroach on US hegemony."

          the state spending the budget not on schools, hospitals and pensions, but on the insane militarization of the country

          For now, there is some balance.
          Messages about the commissioning of hospitals, schools, roads, the beginning of the construction of such - quite go in the same stream.
          Just now, a new oncology dispensary in Ryazan began to receive patients.


          Turbo-patriots are terribly indignant.

          to continue the war over money

          From 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, all options are bad and terrible.
          Indo-Pakistani is bad, the rest are even worse.
          1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
            hellman anton (hellman anton) 31 May 2023 21: 58
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            That is, the construction of schools and hospitals is supposedly a successful success? With construction technologies and millions of people imported from Asia, this is not a success at all. These schools and hospitals will work for 30 thousand rubles.
            in the 90s they also built it, so what?
            How can you write such nonsense, successful success - they built a kindergarten. It’s self-evident, when you drink water you don’t shout about victory and successful success? Uraaa, took a sip of water, I’m done.
            This I take into account the quality with which they build, even if the case that the new barracks in the military units collapsed or after a major overhaul (the most famous is the Airborne Forces in 2015)

            Setssas construction technologies have stepped up so that a two-story townhouse is being built in just a couple of weeks. It can be even faster, of course (all sorts of frame houses and so on)
          2. Pembo Offline Pembo
            Pembo 31 May 2023 22: 50
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            Quote from Pembo
            why do you think that Western manufacturers will not return to Russia.

            will not give.
            Even Germany and Japan are still "not allowed" to have a number of technologies.
            Even in the best years, the Russian Federation was not allowed to buy modern equipment for the production of microcircuits.

            Yes, we are not talking about super technologies, at least to return what was before 24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX. The automotive industry, at least.

            Why do you think that the West will need a half-strangled Russia

            To show everyone, "this will be the case with anyone who dares to encroach on US hegemony."

            They have already shown it, although we ourselves set ourselves up brilliantly. But now the US can show what will happen to those who surrender. And if they kick those who have surrendered, those who want to surrender to them will be greatly reduced.

            the state spending the budget not on schools, hospitals and pensions, but on the insane militarization of the country

            For now, there is some balance.
            Messages about the commissioning of hospitals, schools, roads, the beginning of the construction of such - quite go in the same stream

            A school is not a school building, not architecture, but an education system. A hospital is not a hospital building, not an architecture, but a healthcare system. There are buildings, but what about education and healthcare. We have the building of the Ministry of Defense and the buildings of the barracks, the defense is bad.
            1. Nelton Offline Nelton
              Nelton (Oleg) 1 June 2023 11: 13
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              Quote from Pembo
              at least return what was before 24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX. The automotive industry, at least.

              Automotive restarts without them.
              well, yes, with a strong Chinese accent, but nonetheless.
              A number of our companies got a chance to become independent producers of finished products and components.

              They have already shown it, although we ourselves set ourselves up brilliantly.

              Well, so far, the nominal GDP of the Russian Federation has grown, and for the first time since 2014 exceeded $ 2 trillion, while a number of European countries have a drop even in nominal $ (and this is against the background of 8% inflation $).
              On the whole, the country lives and develops well.

              A hospital is not a hospital building, not an architecture, but a healthcare system.

              Quote from hellman anton
              construction of schools and hospitals is supposedly a successful success?

              In any case, this is a good objective indicator that they are engaged in healthcare / education.
              And yes, it is a success. There after all not only walls, but and equipment.

              in the 90s they also built it, so what?

              And the fact that the heart-rending cries of liberalophobes about the terrible 199s are greatly exaggerated.
              But in the 199s, objectively, much less was built than now.

              How can you write such nonsense, a successful success - they built a kindergarten. Eio self-aware

              This is far from being taken for granted.
              In 2018, let's say a new school in Kharkiv was included in the list of the top 10 achievements of the year in all of Ukraine.
              Although it would seem - neither Putin, nor his cronies, nor sanctions ...

              Quote from Pembo
              the defense is bad.

              Within the framework of those concepts that were for 2021, everything was fine.
              It was clear to everyone that if you climb into the Russian Federation with conventional forces and occupy at least the regional center, call, catch tactical nuclear weapons.
              The task of preparing to break the prepared defense of a motivated army with conventional aircraft, and even in the conditions of a practically unsuppressed air defense system (target designations from NATO, their own radars almost do not shine) was not set.
      2. Raymond Offline Raymond
        Raymond (Raymond) 1 June 2023 00: 22
        +1
        At some point, a person must be held accountable for his actions...

        You wanted Putin to be president, you will be responsible for his actions.
        1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
          Mikhail L. 1 June 2023 04: 54
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          Threat is the weapon of the weak!