Poland's industry is on the brink of disaster, while Germany is in recession


European countries are beginning to fully reap the benefits of the break in cooperation with Russia. For example, Polish industry is already on the brink of disaster. According to the portal Wnp.pl, a decline in production in the country is observed in 25 industries economics.


According to analysts, industrial production in Poland in April of this year decreased by 6,4% year-on-year. Compared with March, it fell immediately by 14,8%.

According to Wnp.pl, only nine out of 34 sectors of the Polish economy feel more or less confident. In the remaining 25, according to the results of April, a drop in volumes was recorded.

What awaits the Polish industry next is unknown

- notes the publication.

Things are a little better in Germany, where a recession has been declared due to the second consecutive quarter in which the country's GDP declined. For example, in the last quarter of last year, Germany's gross domestic product fell by 0,5%, and in the first quarter of this year by 0,3%.

And these figures, frankly, are not surprising. The German industry felt good in those years when it received cheap gas from the Russian Federation. And recently, Berlin has significantly reduced the consumption of Russian fuel.

For a short period, it seemed that the country could painlessly survive the rejection of Russian energy resources. However, the more time passes, the more obvious the losses of the country's economy become, which begin to hit the ordinary Germans more and more painfully.

As for Poland, its economy has never been among the leaders. The break in cooperation with Russia only emphasized this circumstance.
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  1. Constantine N Offline Constantine N
    Constantine N (Constantin N) 25 May 2023 15: 01
    +5
    bad, the more unemployed, the more soldiers
    1. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 25 May 2023 15: 21
      -1
      Do not worry, such news is noodles for the ears of gullible Russians, every six months they pop up in the information field, but Europe and America are still "strong"
      1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 25 May 2023 15: 41
        +5
        Poland's industry is on the brink of disaster, while Germany is in recession

        Another "spiritual article" and nothing more.
      2. Leontrotsky Offline Leontrotsky
        Leontrotsky (Leon) 26 May 2023 14: 17
        +1
        Where are the strings from? Great Britain announces 10% inflation, while the Germans themselves tell you about a recession and cite the figures of their Ministry of Finance, in other Latvias inflation generally exceeded 20%. Strong is China, which will sit on cheap Russian gas at 180 per thousand cubic meters and flood the whole world with low-cost goods.
    2. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 25 May 2023 15: 59
      +1
      No, the soldiers also need to be fed, as well as dressed, shod, armed and trained - all this costs money, in the "democratic" West it is also hard with money.
      1. GIS Offline GIS
        GIS (Ildus) 25 May 2023 16: 10
        +2
        well, as usual, they can be printed, but then ... then they must either be reset to zero or floated around the world to other countries (what about money)
        what to arm and dress, put on shoes, see above: print, buy while they sell
  2. strange guest Offline strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 25 May 2023 18: 04
    0
    Get a little out of your comfort zone. Shake up fat. It will be useful for the Hans. The hungrier they are, the more creative)
  3. RUR Offline RUR
    RUR 25 May 2023 18: 52
    +3
    Things are little better in Germany, where a recession has been declared for the second consecutive quarter.

    in Germany 1st quarter - GDP growth - 0%, and in Poland -3,9% growth

    As for Poland, its economy has never been among the leaders.

    On the contrary, Poland quite stood out against the background of the EU - it showed almost continuous growth, excluding 1 year of the pandemic, both before joining the EU and after joining, however, it is clear why in the Russian Federation such analytics happen NWO...
    1. Anatoly-68 Offline Anatoly-68
      Anatoly-68 (Anatoly) 26 May 2023 09: 55
      -2
      The growth rate of the economy and its volume are different things - the Polish economy is 4 times smaller than the German one at par and three times smaller than the German one at PPP (and also smaller than France, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, etc.)
      1. RUR Offline RUR
        RUR 26 May 2023 15: 13
        0
        this is true, but Poland is growing almost non-stop, in Germany, only in the two thousandth there was a serious decline since 2008 -
        2011 then a pandemic, in the 90s, it seems, too, and keep in mind that Poland received gas, etc. from Russia more expensive than Germany,
        let's see what will happen now, in addition, the Germans have seriously invested in China, which is now slowing down in development, then, Germany, is not cooperating with the Russian Federation so much now, and the United States is imposing more and more new sanctions - Germany is losing 2 huge markets + cheap raw materials, France, Italy, Spain are heavily in debt, which is higher than their annual GDP, Poland is little dependent on all this, let's see what happens ...
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 15: 32
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          Quote: RUR
          Poland is growing almost non-stop

          It depends on which tugriks to count.
          If in US$, then the decline was in 2009, 2013, 2015 and 2016.
          And in 2017 GDP was less than in 2008.

          And that's not taking into account dollar inflation. according to the inflation calculator, https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
          Poland's 533 billion GDP in 2008 corresponds to 724's 2022 billion.
          And Poland's GDP in 2022 is 688 billion.
          These are the numbers...

          But in general, yes, Poland and Romania have some of the best growth rates.
          1. RUR Offline RUR
            RUR 26 May 2023 17: 09
            -1
            There are different data on Poland's GDP in 2022 from 713 billion to 750 billion - according to the link below, it turns out that in the period 1990 - 2020 only China was ahead of Poland in the world in terms of development, and in 2022 Poland bypassed it
            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLZfTWqWYAclqrk?format=jpg&name=small
            1. Nelton Offline Nelton
              Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 17: 20
              0
              Quote: RUR
              There are different data on Poland's GDP in 2022 from 713 billion to 750 billion

              In July, in addition to the IMF data, WB data will be released, and in October the IMF will issue a second estimate.
              Everything else is not valid.
              1. RUR Offline RUR
                RUR 26 May 2023 18: 07
                -1
                Validno - what are you in a Western manner? - first of all, what the country itself considers, the Polish wiki (economics)
                submitted data for 2022 - $ 713 billion, it is possible that the data will be updated, but this is only upwards, I also saw someone's data on Poland's GDP in the amount of $ 722 billion for 2022, IMF, WB, etc. often change their forecasts, correcting them, and the correct data appears very good. late
                1. Nelton Offline Nelton
                  Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 18: 30
                  0
                  Quote: RUR
                  IMF, WB etc. often change their predictions

                  I'm not talking about forecasts, but about the fact.
                  Yes, updates come later (usually for the Russian Federation in a big way), especially the April IMF data.
                  But the July ones from the WB are already close to final.
                  We can return to the topic in a couple of months.

                  Quote: RUR
                  Validno - what are you in a Western manner?

                  I'm not a turbo patriot, I can.
                  So, if we operate with figures from different sources, then we compare the sources according to their authority. The IMF and WB summary report is much more authoritative than the wiki data, where such biased nonsense is written ...

                  and yes
                  2021 = 679,5 billion,
                  2022 = 688,3 billion, but in 2021 prices it is 637.3, -6,2%.

                  It is clear that such figures will not be shown to you explicitly ...
                  1. RUR Offline RUR
                    RUR 26 May 2023 18: 40
                    -1
                    $ 713 billion is Polish statistics - no one can calculate more accurately than the country itself, for comparison, the forecasts of your authorities for Russia in 2022 are completely disgraced, it should be noted ...
                    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
                      Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 18: 48
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                      Quote: RUR
                      $713 billion is Polish statistics

                      this figure is on the wiki without citing the source.
                      And if we evaluate the dynamics, we need a series of absolute values ​​from one source.
                      Throw off the link to the official Polish statistics for years in zloty, the average annual rate of the zloty can be found the same.
                      (if anything, IMF / WB do something like this, only the course is not taken on an average annual basis, but on a quarterly basis)

                      Quote: RUR
                      the forecasts of your authorities for Russia in 2022 are completely disgraced

                      uh, sir changed to "himself"?
                      We are not talking about forecasts, but about the fact.
                      In fact, the GDP of the Russian Federation -
                      2021 = $1836 billion
                      2022 = $2215 billion, in 2021 prices $2050 billion.

                      But the Russian Federation has an obvious strong dependence on the price of a barrel.
                      The barrel has grown - so the GDP in nominal terms has risen.
                      Despite the political situation (although the barrel has grown largely due to the political situation).
                      1. RUR Offline RUR
                        RUR 26 May 2023 20: 00
                        -1
                        https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POLGDPNADSMEI
                        there, in the upper left corner:
                        observation:

                        2022: plz 3,078,324,600,000

                        using the currency calculator, I got it - 728 308 820 757,96 Dolar
                      2. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 21: 44
                        0
                        2021, PLN 2631 billion
                        Rate 0.2592 = $682 billion
                        https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/PLN-USD-spot-exchange-rates-history-2021.html

                        2022, PLN 3078 billion
                        Rate 0.2251 = $692.8 billion
                        https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/PLN-USD-spot-exchange-rates-history-2022.html

                        Very close to imf data
                      3. RUR Offline RUR
                        RUR 26 May 2023 22: 00
                        -1
                        Well, if you want accuracy, then it's better to count like this - WB estimated 679,4 miliard USD (2021), and 10% - 67.9 - add
                        679,4 + 67,9 / 2 ~ 33 (in 2022 there was an increase from 4.9% to 5.1% - I took the average - 5%) - 679,4 + 33 - more than 700 billion come out anyway

                        I propose to end here, time will tell, and Germany with its migrants is 2 times larger in population
                      4. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 22: 33
                        0
                        Quote: RUR
                        I propose to end here.

                        Well, at least we are talking about the Polish economy in an article about the Polish economy, otherwise there is such an offtopic ...

                        in 2022 there was an increase from 4.9% to 5.1% - I took the average - 5%

                        Who told you about the growth of 5%?
                        With growth over the year, they lie as about the loss of the enemy in the war.

                        And our lies, and yours.

                        But in absolute terms, it is much more difficult to lie, especially to do it systematically from year to year.

                        Here you have given a link to the data in złoty.
                        I accepted it - and came to the fact that in nominal dollars the growth is 1.6%, which, with inflation of 8%, gives a decrease in GDP by 6%.

                        And you are fooled by brains .... like us.

                        Let's say there are 2 estimates of GDP, preliminary, and updated. In most countries, the preliminary is almost always a couple of% higher than the adjusted one.
                        It seems to be for absolute values ​​- this is within the limits of permissible errors. Then comes the refinement, and it is the refined value that goes into the multi-year tables.
                        But when the new N year estimate is compared to the N-1 update, it gives a +2% false gain...
                        What suits everyone, it seems that they obviously didn’t lie anywhere.
                      5. RUR Offline RUR
                        RUR 26 May 2023 22: 54
                        -1
                        You use net - everything is there - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1244907/poland-gdp-change/

                        gives 4.9%, according to updated data 5.1%

                        But your Germany is losing 2 huge markets (China Russia) + cheap raw materials, and the country is full of migrants in the ghetto, do you think they will calmly endure and endure difficulties - they didn’t come for this, and the Germans are not used to being in poverty, maybe the country is also waiting for popular unrest? - will it add their GDP? - then let's count
                      6. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 26 May 2023 23: 18
                        0
                        Quote: RUR
                        according to updated data 5.1%


                        "I believe in mermaids, in brownies..."

                        See above, comparison of absolute values ​​in $ adjusted for inflation.

                        Quote: RUR
                        your Germany

                        Not mine.
                        So yes, Germany sank well in nominal dollars, and to this drawdown, and even -8% inflation ...
                        Merkel go and remember how the golden age ...
                        But in the Russian Federation, to the German gdp pc, for any, it is infinitely far away.
                      7. RUR Offline RUR
                        RUR 27 May 2023 00: 00
                        -1
                        here you strangely think that these 4.9 - 5.1% growth is not real, but nominal, but I will try to dwell on this
  • Dmitry Volkov Offline Dmitry Volkov
    Dmitry Volkov (Dmitry Volkov) 28 May 2023 08: 18
    0
    Well, yes, they shout from all the irons, UGS facilities are completely filled, but there is no flow, we understand that the war has begun to deplete Europe and everything is being done to drive it into the Stone Age laughing