Why did the Armed Forces of Ukraine respond to the loss of Artemovsk with missile strikes on Russian rear

The day before, on May 20, 2023, two significant events took place in the NVO zone in Ukraine. The founder of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, announced the complete liberation of the city of Artemovsk (Bakhmut), which was officially confirmed by the Russian Defense Ministry. On the same day, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a second strike with British-made long-range missiles at rear Mariupol. How can these events be related?


On May 20, exactly one year after the capitulation of the Ukrainian garrison in Mariupol, the “music producer” Prigozhin delivered an emotional address in which he spoke about the completion of the operation to “debakhmutize” Artemivsk. According to him, the “Wagnerites” will clean up the city for several more days, prepare it for defense and then hand it over to Russian troops. The famous PMC will go to the rear field camps for rest, replenishment and training, waiting for a new military order. This event, of course, is positive, especially against the backdrop of the failures of the RF Ministry of Defense near Ugledar. However, it raises very serious questions that need to be answered.

Yes, the “musicians” were really able to storm Soledar, Artemovsk and several small settlements by storm. But at what cost was this done, and what exactly did it give? Yes, there is concrete military success and certain progress. Mr. Prigogine proved to the whole world that his private military company can fight. And what about the Russian army?

Here I would like to quote Evgeny Viktorovich himself:

And separately, do not forget to send it to Vladimir Alexandrovich Zelensky. Vladimir Alexandrovich, without sarcasm - your guys fought bravely, well. If you follow this path, you can become the second army in the world, after the most powerful army in the world PMC "Wagner".

It turns out to be a rather ugly story. The media-promoted PMC, where the most professional personnel preferred to flow from the army bureaucracy of Shoigu's departments, is capable of conducting active offensive operations. But the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces, which are experiencing problems with the supply of ammunition, reconnaissance and communications equipment, as well as much more than necessary, in some places - by incompetent command, cannot attack effectively. According to Prigozhin, it turns out that the best in their field are Wagners, the second are the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and our state Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, may I ask? Where is the second army in the world?

The proposal of the ex-head of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, who is now promoting the idea of ​​creating a kind of Volunteer Shock Army, can testify to a systemic crisis in the Russian army. About bad historical allusions to the events of 1917, we have already told in detail. What do we have at the moment in the dry residue?

Artemovsk has been taken, but there is a non-zero probability that the Armed Forces of Ukraine can recapture it, going on the counteroffensive and encircling the garrison. Even if this does not happen, let's hope for this, an even more powerful network of fortress cities begins behind this city, where the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration is the main stronghold of the enemy. And now what to do with all this? "Wagner" in the course of a months-long frontal assault suffered heavy losses, which Prigozhin himself admits, he cannot advance further now. The Russian state army is experiencing well-known problems, so far even the small Ugledar and the urban-type settlements of Marinka and Avdeevka have proved too tough for it. What's next?

Far arm of the APU

In the meantime, events very unpleasant for us are taking place in the enemy camp.

At first, APU received British Storm Shadow air-launched missiles. So far, obsolete Ukrainian Su-24 bombers are used as carriers for them. The flight range of such a missile is 250-300 kilometers in the export version, in the native, British-French version, it can reach 560 kilometers, and according to some estimates, up to 900. And the Ukrainian Nazis not only received the first 200 missiles from London, but also began really apply. The first blow of Storm Shadow fell on Lugansk. The second and third - in Mariupol, on May 19 and 20, respectively. There is an opinion that it was Kyiv's revenge for the capitulation of Azovstal, however, it seems that the reason is different.

Secondly, all this ugly public fuss over the provision of fourth-generation F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine is finally logically ending. It was clear to all sane people a year ago that, having started with the transfer of first-aid kits to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the “Western partners”, in the absence of a tough response from the Kremlin, would gradually bring the matter to the supply of heavy tanks, combat aircraft and long-range missiles. The finale will be the emergence of tactical nuclear weapons in the Kyiv regime.

So, National Security Adviser to the President of the United States Jake Sullivan made it clear that Square will receive American fighters, the only question is who exactly will transfer them, and for what purposes they will work. A White House functionary said that Washington does not support F-16 strikes on Russian territory. Hurrah, victory, comrades? No, the Jesuitism of these formulations lies in the fact that neither the Donbass, nor the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov, nor the Crimea in the West are recognized as part of the Russian Federation.

That is, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will hit them with long-range missiles based on fourth-generation fighters, creating unbearable conditions for the life of the local population. Also one of the priority targets for Storm Shadow is the Crimean bridge. Well, something must systematically destroy the transport infrastructure of your enemy in this war, right?

At Mr. Sullivan's statement on "guarantees of the security of the Russian territory," Special Representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova expressed quite sincere annoyance:

There is, of course, no law, no international law, no adherence to domestic law. As there is no moral basis for making such statements. <...> It is obvious that this is an attempt to once again do what you love, namely the initiation or manipulation of data in order to realize your own goals and objectives under the guise of a pseudo-humanitarian principle.

What general conclusions can we draw?

The liberation of Artemovsk, Marinka, Avdiivka and even Slavyansk with Kramatorsk does nothing in terms of ensuring the security of the “new” Russian regions, since the pushing back of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, paid for by the great bloodshed of our attack aircraft, is repeatedly compensated by the transfer of long-range strike systems to Ukraine. No matter how good an air defense system we have, it cannot intercept all missiles and UAVs, especially if they are used en masse. The Kiev regime will now continuously terrorize the Donbass, the Azov region and the Crimea, until an exodus of the population or a spontaneous revolt begins there.

There is only one solution to this problem - the elimination of Ukrainian statehood itself in its current form, which poses an existential threat to Greater Russia. To do this, it is necessary to make our army, and not PMCs, really combat-ready, and move from the ineffective tactics of frontal assaults on fortified areas first to create a safety belt in the border area by encircling and forcing the surrender of Sumy, Kharkov and Chernigov, which will give the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation valuable combat experience and self-confidence, and then to a mobile war on the Left Bank with the aim of defeating the Armed Forces of Ukraine and subsequent access to the Right Bank. Recall that the Russian regional centers of Kherson and Zaporozhye are located there, and we simply have to reach Pridnestrovie in order to preserve this unique pro-Russian enclave.

All other options with passive sitting in strategic defense under the strikes of long-range missiles and UAVs lead only to a humanitarian and military catastrophe delayed in time.
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  1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 21 May 2023 11: 06
    Everything is logical.

    liquidation of Ukrainian statehood itself in its current form

    ‒ is not possible, because it (statehood) is based on the mass support of the population.
    Is the respected Author ready to liquidate him too, using weapons of mass destruction?
    1. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
      Vlad Burchilo (Vlad Burchilo) 21 May 2023 14: 26
      Quote: Mikhail L.
      Everything is logical.
      But: "liquidation of the Ukrainian statehood itself in its current form" does not seem possible, because it (statehood) is based on the mass support of the population.
      Is the respected Author ready to liquidate him too, using weapons of mass destruction?

      ADEQUATE Person will not hint at such
      1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
        Mikhail L. 21 May 2023 15: 29
        How to say. Did V. Putin not threaten the West with the use of nuclear weapons?
        1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
          k7k8 (vic) 21 May 2023 20: 15
          Did the President of Russia threaten Ukraine with the use of nuclear weapons? Did I miss something? As far as I remember, only turbopatriots like you continuously howl about the possibility of using it in Ukraine
          1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
            Mikhail L. 22 May 2023 14: 29
            I don’t argue with opponents who stoop to personal attacks!
  2. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 21 May 2023 12: 08
    It would be nice, it would be nice if we could catch a big elephant. Not for Senka hat.
    1. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
      Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 21 May 2023 12: 21
      The restructuring of the army is possible only after major socio-political changes in the country. Too bad the enemy is real.
  3. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vlad Burchilo) 21 May 2023 14: 22
    The author, in general, everything is so, but

    Satan hides in the details

    1) Russia DOES NOT and WAS NOT "levers" of influence. The author, like any sane person, understands that NO ONE WILL use nuclear weapons.
    2 "resolute offensive" is the author's dream, but they have 1200 "bayonets", at least, and we have recruited no more than 000 + 000 "contract soldiers". And they still need to be prepared.
    Let's say they were prepared, not to do it in a week, and "cheers, on the attack"?
    Considering that 60% of the command staff did not fight, but we are opposed: well-trained and armed units, if we are not defeated, but the losses will be such that "mom do not cry."
    This is just what they dream of: the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their "curators".
    Even, in 1941, they tried not to bring this to a head. Since the spring of 1943, only one proposal has already been a reason for talking in SMERSH.
    PS. I confess: I trust the former historians more. In the summer of 1941, we had an advantage in technology and personnel, and the Wehrmacht had: smart commanders. This opinion: "Grechko Commission"
    And Martirosyan, directly writes: treason in the top leadership. The facts of treason are given by: Admiral Kuznetsov, aircraft designer Yakovlev, but, for obvious reasons, they did not say the word: "treason." But a sane person will understand
    1. Igor_E Offline Igor_E
      Igor_E (Igor) 22 May 2023 20: 08
      but they have 1200 000 000 bayonets

      Typo. Extra 2 zeros.
  4. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 21 May 2023 15: 16
    Prigozhin flicked our army on the nose, making a compliment to the Ukrainian one. I do not beg for the victories of PMC Wagner. But after a major victory, there are always thousands, at least hundreds of prisoners, who are held for edification among the general public.
    1. uRRY Offline uRRY
      uRRY (urri) 22 May 2023 13: 02
      The Wagnerites seemed to promise to work carefully, without prisoners and all the troubles associated with them.
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  5. strange guest Offline strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 21 May 2023 16: 12
    Basically, there is a way out. Liberalism and democracy have not justified themselves - and everyone agrees with this - from the President to the janitor. Give Prigozhin the rights of a dictator. For a year. Like in Rome. Everything is new well forgotten old.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 21 May 2023 16: 26
      Quote: Strange guest
      Liberalism and democracy have not justified themselves - and everyone agrees with this

      This is the mantra for-the-USSR-sheep, they missed the coupons ...
      1. strange guest Offline strange guest
        strange guest (Strange Guest) 21 May 2023 16: 39
        mantra for-USSR-sheep, they missed coupons ...

        The word liberal is also abusive among those who did not find the USSR either due to age, and not only among older people. And our democracy is already .. peculiar. So we have nothing to lose and much to gain. And why do you associate personal dictatorship with socialism? It's all about different things.
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 21 May 2023 17: 26
          Quote: Strange guest
          democracy we have and so .. peculiar.

          It's true. Zeroed...

          Liberalism is still present in the economy, due to which we live more or less.
          1. strange guest Offline strange guest
            strange guest (Strange Guest) 21 May 2023 17: 32
            Liberalism is still present in the economy, due to which we live more or less.

            So a temporary dictatorship can be with any form of ownership. It's not about that at all. The dictator in Rome was not a merchant)
            1. Nelton Offline Nelton
              Nelton (Oleg) 21 May 2023 22: 01
              Quote: Strange guest
              The dictator in Rome was not a merchant

              If in this aspect, then the powers of our Supreme are absolute.
    2. Alexander Bego Offline Alexander Bego
      Alexander Bego (Alexander Bego) 22 May 2023 07: 17
      Give him dictatorship - the first one will choke on blood! Went through this already.
      1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
        scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 23 May 2023 00: 39
        The comrade missed the sovereign cutter, it's good that not everyone is like that.
        1. strange guest Offline strange guest
          strange guest (Strange Guest) 23 May 2023 17: 02
          Quote: Scolopendra
          The comrade missed the sovereign cutter, it's good that not everyone is like that.

          Why do you think that a dictator is immediately about blood? These are difficult but necessary decisions to remedy the situation without the possibility of "wrapping" them with pseudo-elites. Without regard to the interests of the "right" people, but in the name of the interests of the country and society. Moreover, a dictatorship limited to a specific period.
          1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
            scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 24 May 2023 12: 19
            1. Give an example of a dictatorship without repression of the opposition, dissidents and other dissenters?
            2. Can you give an example of repression without mistakes and excesses on the ground? Especially with the stick system and the norms of "production".
            3. Dictatorship limited to a specific period - very funny, actually. Our presidency is actually not limited (I'm not talking about the legal side of the issue), and limiting the dictator is a utopia.

            And by the way, who will write the constitution under the dictator? Who do you trust to write down your wishes? State Duma? Federation Council? Putin administration?
            1. zenion Offline zenion
              zenion (zinovy) 26 May 2023 14: 19
              There were no production standards under Stalin. There was a plan after discussion not only at the top, but also with the directors of large factories and requests from small factories, what and how they have. But, when there was no longer a dictatorship under Khrushchev, there was already an order to increase output even to those who could not have them. They demanded from the enterprises a plan for the delivery of scrap metal, which did not work with metal. The biggest inflection is that no one wants to take responsibility for what he did. In Russia, there were only two people who took responsibility Peter No. 1 and Stalin. The rest took only awards and bribes and continue to do so.
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 May 2023 21: 24
    If someone sits somewhere for a long time, then someone needs it.
    If more than half a year the capture of a previously unknown town in the forehead is a great success, then this is also necessary for someone.

    Well, who needs the murder of under half a million (according to some experts) Ukrainians?
    It is clear not to the people who, back in 14, sang "can you really point a cannon at your wife Ukrainians."

    Who then wins? those who benefit from "record trade with the EU" in 2022, record wealth in FORBES, who are legally protected from conscription and are already fighting for a new golden rain in the military-industrial complex, construction, contracts on new lands, and new real estate in Dubai and islands of warm seas ....
  7. Sergeant Petrenko (on matzatsykle) 21 May 2023 22: 56
    Bravo! 5 points for the article! Well, at least somehow I finally began to write in plain text about the critical problems of the RF Armed Forces and the military leadership in general, and what I personally have been writing almost everywhere for a year now (except for Bakhmut - I and I couldn’t imagine that even such a small town would become a problem for the RF Armed Forces. I asked a year ago, how are you going to take million-plus cities if you can’t take Avdiivka?) and for some reason I was constantly subjected to obstruction everywhere. not only is it fun for the authorities to be in a warm bath, but the people in general are also reluctant to get out of their comfort zone at all and under no pretext.
    Thank you very much to S. Marzhetsky! Here you really see at the root!
    1. Constantine N Offline Constantine N
      Constantine N (Constantin N) 23 May 2023 18: 03
      the problem is not in the Russian army, but the fact that NATO is bigger.
  8. Yaroslav the Wise (Yaroslav the Wise) 22 May 2023 11: 32
    The author correctly expressed his opinion and vision on the situation. One can only add: judging by the actions of our General Staff and the Government, they all want to repeat the fate of the generals and politicians of the Russian Empire of the 1917 model. And if you look closely, you can find parallels between the past and the present. These are the seats of both sides in a deaf defense with periodic shelling of each other from cannons. These are the successful actions of * Wagner * on one of the sectors of the front. These actions can be compared with * Brusilov breakthrough *. You can also bring a couple of such parallels. But the main thing will be that the protracted nature of the NWO can lead the * Emperor * of our time, as well as the Government of today's model, to what all these people led to in the last century. Well, today's Russia - to a banal collapse. Well, maybe also to the revolution or to the second Civil.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 22 May 2023 11: 46
      Quote: Yaroslav the Wise
      the protracted nature of the NWO can lead ... today's Russia to a banal collapse. Well, maybe also to the revolution or to the second Civil.

      So, for this reason, the state of affairs in the economy is much more important than harness skirmishes (essentially purely tactical).
      And in the economy, in the 2nd year of sanctions, things are going very well - which was a big surprise for Western opponents.
      1. Flight Offline Flight
        Flight (voi) 22 May 2023 16: 10
        Do you think that they hoped that the economic and political regime would change in Russia? I do not see the logic of the West. The current political leadership does not even stutter about changing the political and economic regime, which, before that, suited the West quite well. Here is a different game and different goals.
      2. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
        Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 22 May 2023 16: 30
        The problem is the budget deficit. It is big and continues to grow. Nothing to cover. What to do when the reserves run out?
        1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
          scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 23 May 2023 00: 42
          Restaurant tax. Entertainment tax. Purchase tax. Tax on CO2 emissions by the nostrils. If only the Forbes list was not reduced.
          1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
            Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 24 May 2023 20: 22
            It is impossible to impose new taxes indefinitely. The population is already poor.
            1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
              scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 25 May 2023 17: 38
              And what will the people do? The retirement age has been raised, a six-day period will soon be introduced, pensions in the Russian Federation are less than in Estonia, there was not a single riot, not even a rally of many thousands. There is still a lot of patience. Even if they introduce cards / workdays, there will be no problems.
    2. Ilya 22 Offline Ilya 22
      Ilya 22 (Ilya) 23 May 2023 09: 52
      And the current ruler is more like Nicholas II, and not Peter I.
  9. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 22 May 2023 13: 57
    There is only one solution to this problem - the elimination of Ukrainian statehood itself in its current form, which poses an existential threat to Greater Russia.

    Without the Law of the Russian Federation, this problem cannot be solved. In March 2022, in my appeal to the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, it was proposed to adopt a law that would state that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia.
    In the presence of the Law, the military operation conducted by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
    Assigning the status of the territory of Ukraine, that this is the territory of Russia, will transfer the NMD into a counter-terrorist operation (CTO), i.e. All military actions will be carried out in accordance with the Law "On Counteracting Terrorism" dated March 06.03.2006, 35 N XNUMX-FZ, and this is already the legal basis for conducting military actions.
    All actions of the Russian Army, including conscripts, on the territory of Ukraine will comply with the Law of Russia.
    Unfortunately, the current government does not need this, it needs a process. For some, war is money in a personal pocket. We are waiting for the roasted rooster to peck. A year has passed.
    1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
      scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) 23 May 2023 00: 45
      I suggest not to stop there. Raise maps of the times of Alexander II. Where are the borders of Russia? Here's how to legislate them. with Alaska.
  10. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 22 May 2023 17: 27
    The author again gathered to surround Kharkov. Not otherwise, combat airships.
    LBS is about a thousand kilometers. The Wagners operate on a stretch of ten to twenty kilometers. Judging by the stupid reports of the military men, almost all the Ukrainian army is opposed to them there. The RF Armed Forces, according to the author, simply smoke. Mariupol, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Melitopol, Berdyansk - is this also Wagner?
  11. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
    Pavel57 (Paul) 22 May 2023 17: 42
    The finale will be the emergence of tactical nuclear weapons in the Kyiv regime.

    There is a possibility that it has already been delivered. The radioactive contamination from the explosion of warehouses with British shells does not correspond only to the enriched uranium of the cores of the shells.
  12. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 22 May 2023 18: 18
    They write such things that it seems like a war, but not the same as agreed. And here already "Fanfan tulip". And the general reports to the French king how the war is going. And the king, of course, was excited. That the enemy is caught incomprehensible and is fighting the wrong way, they are fighting wrong, they are fighting against wool, the king said to his general. It's impossible to fight like that. In addition, an enemy unknown to us attacked their enemy with whom they are fighting, and he takes all the victory. Another Musician hits the enemy without any permission and can ruin everything that makes money.
  13. Ilya 22 Offline Ilya 22
    Ilya 22 (Ilya) 23 May 2023 09: 58
    PMC Wagner of course well done. One thing is embarrassing that they are waiting for a military order, and not a military order.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 26 May 2023 14: 31
      So tse zhe Feudalism. There is no transition from a country with power to a country of capitalism. Every feudal lord tears everything he can. Mark Twain wrote about the feudal lords as a very loving god. Before cutting someone's throat, the feudal lord kneels down and asked God to help him kill the traveler, and for this he will put a big candle in the church and give him money to build a new church, or at least an extension to the old one. Capitalism was no better either, and it corrected the name for America: United Predatory States, after the States attacked Mexico.