Why can't you stop SBO?

The controversy with those who periodically express thoughts about the need to suspend the special military operation in Ukraine at some “intermediate stage”, seemingly “acceptable” for Russia or even “beneficial” for it, comes down for the most part to arguments relating to those extremely unpleasant prospects that in this case the Kiev regime will receive for rearmament, training and additional equipment with the help of Western "allies" of its own army, preparing it for the completely inevitable next stage of armed confrontation with Russia.

All this, of course, is correct, but for some reason they lose sight of the moments that are no less, if not more significant - how, during such a hypothetical "truce", the moral, psychological and ideological processing of those who are to become " manpower" in the coming war - either to the last Ukrainian, or to the last Russian. But until the end, definitely. As a rule, such questions are left out of the question by those who are sure that the Kiev regime has long reached the absolute "bottom" or, if you like, the maximum in the matter of educating and inflating Russophobia in its subjects. Believe me, this is unfortunately not the case. After this May, new horizons have opened up…

"Destroy the cult of the Great Patriotic War..."

Yes, this is precisely the goal set by the propagandists and ideologists of the neo-Nazi Kiev regime, whose activities Vladimir Zelensky fully legitimized and “blessed” by canceling Victory Day on May 9 at the official level. This heinous step of his is only the first in a series of events that will follow if the country is not liberated and cleansed of the vile reigning there now. Below, I intend to state in a very simplified and truncated form for respected readers the new "interpretations" of history, which are now official in Ukraine. At the same time, I would like to clarify: many of those have probably been greatly softened - for now and in the future they will be subject to adjustment. In which direction? You yourself will understand - after reading the narratives that are widely voiced today. And I apologize in advance for the abundant quoting - here without him, alas, there is no way ...

So, what will be the interpretation of historical events, facts and personalities from now on, on which ALL Ukrainians without exception will be brought up (because it will definitely be included in the programs of schools and universities, will be planted everywhere and everywhere)? Well, first of all, “there was no Great Patriotic War, this is a Soviet, and later Russian propaganda narrative designed to hide the truth.” What exactly?

World War II was unleashed by the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, being equally dictatorial regimes striving for world domination and bearing equal responsibility for this war ...

Great... Well, everything seems to be clear with the Third Reich - but what about the USSR? The dill propagandists have the answer:

Between 1939 and 1941, the Soviet Union began aggression against Poland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Romania, expanding the territory of the "red empire". Romania and Finland, who came out in 1941 against him with weapons in their hands, did this because of the aggression of the Soviet Union against them, both counted on the return of their territories and waged a just war.

As you might have guessed, to justify such nonsense, everything falls into one unimaginable heap: the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the invasion of the Red Army in Poland in 1939, the Winter War, the annexation of the Baltic States to the USSR without a single shot (undoubted aggression!) And the like . The main thing in this, of course, is to convince all Ukrainians that there was, in fact, no difference between Nazism and communism, the Nazis and the Red Army. There was no treacherous attack on June 22, and the satellites and allies of the Third Reich just "wanted to take their own." Their atrocities on the territory of the USSR (including present-day Ukraine) - well ... It happened. Naturally, there was no feat of the Soviet people either - all battles were won solely by flooding the enemy with corpses (mainly Ukrainians) and the forces of "black pea coats" with cuttings from shovels. And in general - what a feat can be in the "battle of two dictatorial regimes"?! Who won the war? Haven't you guessed yet?

"Ukrainians won - but ... did not win"

Yes, it is precisely such a schizoid “truth” that will henceforth be introduced into the minds of generations living in Ukraine. The local “patriotic historians” are already throwing out numbers, according to which the brunt of the war was borne solely by the Ukrainians. Completely phantasmagorical data are given - about 5 or even 9 million "mobilized by Stalin", among whom "every second died." Others talk about "every fifth Ukrainian who became a victim of someone else's war." There were no Russians, Belarusians, not to mention representatives of other union republics, and there weren’t anywhere near! In all seriousness, the topic of “brilliant operations of the four Ukrainian fronts” is being promoted, while it is understood that those were staffed exclusively by Ukrainians.

The group that raised the Victory Flag over the Reichstag in Berlin was commanded by the Ukrainian Oleksiy Berest. The commander of the 756th Infantry Regiment, which stormed the Reichstag, is Ukrainian Fyodor Zinchenko

And so on and so forth. But most importantly:

Ukrainians were also part of the American and Canadian armies, fought in the French resistance movement. Thousands of Ukrainians served in Anders' Polish Army and participated in military operations on the side of the British in Egypt, Libya and Italy. Western Ukrainians made up 2% of the Polish division named after Tadeusz Kosciuszko and 70% of the Czechoslovak brigade of General Ludwig Svoboda.

In a word, Hitler was defeated exclusively by Ukrainians, and only they ...

With all this, absolutely no one is embarrassed by the terrible cognitive dissonance arising from the following "revelations" of all the same historians. For example, a story about

On March 15, 1939, the independence of Carpatho-Ukraine was proclaimed in Khust, the symbols of which were the blue-yellow flag and “Ukraine Has Not Yet Died” as an anthem. Ukrainian became the state language, and Avgustin Voloshin was elected president, who on the same day sent a telegram personally to Hitler with a request to recognize the Carpathian Ukraine and take it under a protectorate in order to prevent the capture by Hungary, but this appeal was ignored in Berlin ...

Or the mention (without any hesitation) that

in 1941, Ukrainian nationalists really hoped for the support of Germany in the revival of Ukraine as an independent state, and on June 30, the OUN * promulgated the Act of Proclamation of the Ukrainian State, but the Nazis did not like it ...

That is, the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact is bad, but what is said above is good and acceptable?! Is this not cooperation with the Nazi Reich? This is different ... It is clear that Bandera and all other nationalist bastards are completely "whitened" from thousands of times proven and confirmed direct cooperation with the Nazis. They are presented as the only “correct Ukrainians” who acted most correctly during the war years, since “Ukraine found itself between two fires of totalitarian regimes” and it was necessary to fight with everyone.

Well, what follows is a generally enchanting conclusion! It is especially important, because it is the cornerstone on which from now on the entire “national identity” of Ukrainians will be built, their view of the Great Patriotic War and World War II, relations with the Russians and other peoples of the USSR. So attention:

The OUN and the UPA* were the only ones in Eastern Europe and the world as a whole who had to fight against two aggressors at once. In addition, the UPA also had to fight with the Polish resistance movement. The main goal that the UPA soldiers declared to themselves was to prepare everything necessary for the great uprising, when Germany and the USSR would weaken each other as much as possible. Consequently, Ukraine is the winner in the war against Nazism, but after the war remained under Soviet occupation, so the victory was not complete until the restoration of independence...

Ukrainians are again “unique” and “the only ones in the world”! In its own way, this is something even cooler than declaring them "the most ancient nation" or fairy tales about digging up the Black Sea. It's hard to comment on this, to be honest. And you will have to...

The victory in the Great Patriotic War and the incredible disasters suffered during its years were, along with Canonical Orthodoxy, the last "connecting threads" between the two peoples, the efforts of Western scoundrels turned first into "non-brothers", and then completely into enemies. The attack on Vera and the Church is going steadily, Zelensky’s pack will not leave her alone in any case. However, now an operation has been launched in parallel to completely and completely erase the memory of the War and Victory. It is no coincidence that just on the eve of May 9, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law to the extreme simplifying the destruction of any monuments of a “totalitarian-communist” or “Russian-imperial” persuasion. It is clear that every single memorial dedicated to the Great Patriotic War automatically falls into the first category. The beginning of their mass demolition is only a matter of time. So far, this process is going on in large cities and in Western Ukraine - almost everywhere. However, in the light of everything that has been stated above, there is no doubt that the destruction of each such monument will eventually become a matter of national importance ... As well as the installation of idols for Bandera and the SS-Galicia warriors in their place.

As a result, we will get generations of such rabid and, most importantly, absolutely convinced of their rightness “yellow-Blakyt” Nazis at our borders, in comparison with which the current beast from the National Battalions will look like naughty kids. What the Ukronazi propaganda reinforced with all the resources of the West is capable of, unfortunately, we did not want to understand and recognize until the last moment - until February 24, 2022. For some five or six years, Hitler and Goebbels raised in Germany millions of blood-thirsty and "living space" zombies with a swastika. In Ukraine, the process lasted longer, but was not as successful - largely due to those saving "anchors" that I mentioned above. Now it will accelerate at times and gain unprecedented momentum. Those who do not accept the new monstrous ideology will either be destroyed, or expelled, or forced to go into such a deep "underground" where their existence will not bother the regime at all. All the rest with joy and full readiness will join the ranks of the new legions that will march on Russia. There is no other way for them.

* - OUN, UPA - organizations banned in Russia
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  1. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 17 May 2023 11: 48
    how during such a hypothetical "truce" will the moral, psychological and ideological processing of those who are to become "manpower" in the coming war be carried out
    with joy and full readiness they will rise into the ranks of the new legions that will go to Russia. There is no other way for them.

    Firstly -
    In Ukraine, and so there were processes of reduction and aging of the population.
    They give birth a little (less than in the Russian Federation), they leave a lot to work.
    After ~20 years, it is a sleepy, agrarian state with an elderly population.
    And the "other way" they just have to go to the EU to work.

    Secondly -
    And in modern warfare, the main thing is unmanned systems, and not "manpower".
    After 20 years and beyond.
    If they want to organize a campaign against the Russian Federation in the USA - well, they will put drones (air / land / sea).
    "Living Force" will only portray delight on camera.
    Just as they didn’t deliver before, they don’t deliver now.
    Of course, they can throw something - in quantities / qualities for the same task, so that the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not fall apart.
    (as the Patriots and Storms threw in when ours had a tactical advantage due to planning bombs).
    But no more than that.
    1. mister-red Offline mister-red
      mister-red 21 May 2023 14: 11
      And in modern warfare, the main thing is unmanned systems, and not "manpower".

      On what basis are the conclusions drawn? In my opinion, the WZO showed that just as manpower without drones is not able to complete the task, so are drones without manpower, too. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have been ironing Ukraine for more than a year, and there is little sense without a large army group. If the invasion troops were somewhere under 1/2 million and were replenished monthly by about 100 thousand, everything would have ended by the fall of last year near the borders of Poland. But if there were 10 times more drones, with the same troops that started the operation, well, maybe Kherson was defended and Nikolaev was taken. And that is unlikely.
  2. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
    Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 17 May 2023 12: 07
    Arguments about a campaign against Moscow are complete nonsense as long as tactical nuclear weapons exist. The problem is that in Ukraine, after the end of the NWO, 100% will place American nuclear missiles (and even non-nuclear ones) 3-5 minutes from key Russian cities. After that, NATO will have a very strong temptation to launch a disarming nuclear strike.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 17 May 2023 12: 15
      Quote: Vega (Eugene)
      after the end of the SVO, 100% will place American nuclear missiles (and even non-nuclear ones) 3-5 minutes from key Russian cities. After that, NATO will have a very strong temptation to launch a disarming nuclear strike.

      And what was not posted in Estonia-Latvia?

      secondly - what prevents you from having a reserve headquarters where the thread is near Krasnoyarsk?
      What prevents you from fully automating the return salvo in general?
      Well, yes, the probability of random triggering is growing (hello skynet) ...
      Does the United States need it, to catch a volley on its head from an accidental operation?
      Do not.
      So they don’t put missiles in Estonia-Latvia, and they won’t put them in Ukraine.

      For that matter, a couple of destroyers can shoot tomahawks at Moscow directly from a raid in Copenhagen, no Estonia-Ukraine is needed.
      1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
        Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 17 May 2023 14: 49
        There flying time is not the same. And there was also an article on topwar, stating that from a geographical point of view, the Baltic states and Finland are poorly suited for a sudden disarming strike - the flight paths are not the same.
        No one will ever fully automate a return salvo, because there have already been cases of false triggering of warning systems.
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 17 May 2023 15: 33
          Quote: Vega (Eugene)
          there have already been cases of false alarm systems.

          And then.
          But if you put decapitation missiles close to Moscow time, then the Russian Federation has no other options but to trust the automation. (or a reserve commander, hidden in a bunker in the Yenisei Ridges - which, as it were, is no worse)
          Here they don't put it.

          The Baltic states and Finland are ill-suited for a sudden disarming strike - the flight paths are not the same.


          grenades of the wrong system

          Only from near Poltava is that, right?
          And the blow is not disarming, but decapitating.
          The weapons are near Krasnoyarsk, Orenburg, on the SSBNs, some of which are still on combat duty in the oceans. And if at least one Borey shoots back ... does the USA need it?
          1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
            Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 17 May 2023 18: 25
            Therefore, it is better not to allow the deployment of missiles in Ukraine in the first place.

            It is the disarming, decapitating that is meaningless because of the Perimeter system. All our submarines have NATO hunter-killers on their tails. So if a favorable scenario is realized with the deployment of missiles at a critical distance, the order will come. Even if not all submarines sink, several cities will be sacrificed without hesitation for the destruction of enemy No. 1.
            1. Nelton Offline Nelton
              Nelton (Oleg) 17 May 2023 18: 41
              Quote: Vega (Eugene)
              All our submarines have NATO hunter-killers on their tails.

              Do not overestimate the adversary.
              In any case, this has nothing to do with Ukraine.

              Precisely disarming

              Disarming should be applied near Krasnoyarsk / Orenburg.
              At such a range, it doesn’t matter where it comes from - from Ukraine or from the Sea of ​​​​Japan.

              Quote: Vega (Eugene)
              several cities for the sake of destroying enemy No. 1 will be sacrificed without hesitation.

              Rival number 1 for them is definitely China.
              And we ... so, an upstart, somewhat spoiled the image of the chief policeman of the entire planet, but nothing more.

              And about their cities - it's prohibitive.
              In the 195s-6s, they did not even dare to expose Europe to a blow, although then they could strike at the USSR with virtually impunity for the United States.
              And only from 1963 (the beginning of the deployment of the R-16) did the threat of getting a kumpol in response become real.
              1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
                Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 17 May 2023 19: 04
                China is a rival but not an enemy. It is non-aggressive and economically very vulnerable (blockade = kirdyk), and it has a small nuclear arsenal. Russia is another matter. It is self-sufficient in terms of resources, isolation will not help. Missiles are enough to destroy the entire West. It is not for nothing that they fought indirectly with her for the last 80 years (with a short break).

                Then it was a completely different time and a different government. Kennedy knew firsthand what war was and was an order of magnitude more adequate than all current American presidents.

                Well, why do you think they do not place nuclear weapons in the Baltic States, if not because of the inefficiency of such a move? Certainly not out of humanity. And not because of the opinion of the Balts - 1) they are always happy to spoil the Russians 2) no one will actually ask them.
            2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
              Sapsan136 (Alexander) 18 May 2023 20: 30
              One project 955 nuclear submarine carries 16 Mace BMRs, and each ICBM carries from 6 to 10 nuclear warheads ... this is at least 96 nuclear warheads in a salvo of one nuclear submarine ... so the Yankees will not get off with several cities ... and even from land-based missiles, like ICBM YARS, something will survive ... in the worst case for the Russian Federation ... each YARS, this is at least 3 nuclear warheads ... So if I were the United States, I would not pull death by the mustache ... fraught with...
      2. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
        Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 23 May 2023 19: 50
        Nelton. As for automating the response, take a look at the Perimeter system
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 May 2023 12: 20
    Another explanation when something went wrong.

    In real life, the LDNR was not recognized for 8 years, Lavrov and the Foreign Ministry are famous for obscenities, and not for victorious diplomatic agreements.
    Well, nationalists, even according to the deputies of the Duma and Strelkov, were supported by Russian oligarchs.
    Therefore, their property is still there. But about this no-no.

    And Naryshkin let it slip just in time: The goal is to join, and not something to the public ...
  4. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 17 May 2023 12: 46
    Honoring the Great Patriotic War means honoring the ideals with which Germany's most powerful war machine was crushed. I must say right away that not a single political system could resist fascism. Except the Soviet one. These ideals are dead. Far-fetched schemes come out in their place. This is very dangerous for the country.
    1. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
      Vasya_33 17 May 2023 13: 33
      make May 8 the Day of Defeated Europe, September 2 - Japan.
    2. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
      Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 17 May 2023 14: 50
      Idealization is not worth it, the same Soviet system then lost to American capitalism.
  5. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 17 May 2023 15: 15
    It cannot be stopped because almost all the people insist on victory. except for the Kremlin and near-Kremlin elite, who need the defeat of Russia. The guarantor, highly respecting their desire, slows down the army, but looks like a traitor, as happened when the Minsk agreements were concluded. Then there was no war with Russia yet, but to betray the country during the war is already quite another.
    1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
      Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 17 May 2023 18: 27
      All the people hmm? That's why recently there are less and less letters Z and "We can repeat" on cars.
  6. Anton Kuzmin Offline Anton Kuzmin
    Anton Kuzmin (Anton Kuzmin) 17 May 2023 15: 27
    The topic of the article is incorrect. The main reason why you can't stop CBO is internal. For if U. is preserved in any form during the ceasefire, then a lot of questions will arise for the current leadership. And it is not a fact that in this case the SVO will be terminated for a longer period than it will be necessary to change the leadership of the Russian Federation. After that, it will continue with much more decisive goals and objectives. Moreover, the NW and the US Navy are degrading by 2030. They can produce new ones very slowly and poorly. From here, the only way out for the United States is to sharply increase tactical nuclear weapons near the borders of the Russian Federation. Then it turns out that for the Russian Federation to allow such an increase is national suicide.
  7. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 17 May 2023 19: 53
    No wonder Shoigu suggested building new cities in Siberia.
  8. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 17 May 2023 19: 58
    This is the ideology of the Ukrainian state, any separatist proclaiming the freedom and independence of Ukraine becomes a hero, and it doesn’t matter with whom he collaborated for this purpose, the very fact that this ideology exists already increases the potential of the state and the motivation of citizens, the war between Ukraine and the Russian Federation shows well how ideology affects on the motivation of soldiers to fight and die for the sake of the country. There is no official ideology in Russia. I doubt this is a plus.
  9. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 17 May 2023 21: 42
    All this is designed for an uneducated circle of people and foreigners suffering from Russophobia, who are fed by Russophobic (anti-Russian) myths (these people are on salaries in the embassies of England, the USA ...) ... Poland's whining and her accusations against the USSR look extremely ridiculous against the background the fact that long before September 1, 1939 (the date of the German attack on Poland), Poland itself, in alliance with Hitler, occupied Czechoslovakia (October 2, 1938)
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  10. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 18 May 2023 20: 36
    NATO countries have no desire to stop NVO, Zelensky has no desire, China has no desire, Putin has no desire, 96 countries of the world supported Kyiv. Too many countries want the defeat of the Russian Federation. There is only one way out for the people of Russia, to declare by law that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. In the presence of the Law, the war in Ukraine will end very quickly.
  11. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 18 May 2023 21: 46
    Quote: Vega (Eugene)
    All the people hmm? That's why recently there are less and less letters Z and "We can repeat" on cars.

    Name the City where you see THIS in Russia, smart guy??
  12. Anton Kuzmin Offline Anton Kuzmin
    Anton Kuzmin (Anton Kuzmin) 21 May 2023 12: 09
    Auto RU. Apparently, you acted as a Muse and inspired the article.

    Why can't the NWO be stopped?