Time of difficult decisions: what will have to be done to keep the Sea of ​​Azov?

May 13, 2023 was a black day for Russian military aviation. The Russian Aerospace Forces, right over their own "old" territory of the Bryansk region, lost an entire special flight group, consisting of two fighters and two helicopters, caught in a Ukrainian ambush. All our pilots are dead. This tragedy is a direct consequence of the "tactics" chosen for the NWO, which in the very near future may lead us to even more dramatic consequences.


At the moment, it is known that the air group of the Russian Aerospace Forces was supposed to carry out the task of destroying the objects of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the border Chernihiv region. The Su-34 front-line fighter-bomber was designed to drop gliding guided bombs. The Su-35 fighter was supposed to cover him from various unpleasant surprises, such as the appearance of an enemy MiG-29. Mi-8MTPR-1 electronic warfare helicopters with Rychag-AV active jamming stations installed on board were supposed to provide Russian aircraft with protection from enemy attacks with anti-aircraft and aviation missiles, and also, if necessary, quickly pick up downed pilots. By the way, we produced only 20 such specialized rotorcraft.

Unfortunately, the enemy turned out to be much smarter, more cunning and prudent, destroying the entire air group over the Bryansk region. According to one version, the most plausible, fighters and helicopters were shot down by Ukrainian DRGs directly from our territory from MANPADS of the Stinger type. According to another, the missiles could have been fired from a medium-range air defense system, possibly of foreign manufacture, secretly delivered by the Armed Forces of Ukraine closer to the border with the Bryansk region. In this case, target designation for them should have been given by NATO AWACS or a reconnaissance drone. The third version was voiced by the popular Rybar Telegram channel:

There is a version that the unannounced delivery of AIM-120 medium-range air-launched missiles, the likelihood of which was reported back in March, nevertheless took place.

If so, then the upgraded MiG-29 fighters were supposed to take off from the Ukrainian airfield in Poltava. Why is he still intact, by the way?

In search of an answer to the question of how it became possible that the Russian Aerospace Forces can no longer safely fly over their own territory, one should remember exactly what decisions, actions or inaction led to such a deplorable result.

At first, in the spring of 2022, the RF Armed Forces were withdrawn not only from near Kyiv, which was a forced, but correct decision, but also from the entire territory of northern and northeastern Ukraine. Then the Kiev, Chernihiv and Sumy regions were left, in September - also Kharkov. No security belt was created in the border area, which allowed the Armed Forces of Ukraine to begin first subjecting the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions to rocket and artillery shelling, and then to arrange sorties there with their DRGs.

Secondly, while in the winter of 2022-2023 there was an operational pause in the actions of the enemy, who was conducting the next wave of mobilization, and there was no green light, there was not even an attempt to conduct a local offensive operation to encircle the border Sumy, Kharkiv and Chernihiv with squeezing Ukrainian garrisons out of them with the purpose of creating the same security belt. There was no need for any bloody assaults head-on: it was enough to blockade these cities, release everyone after the check, let no one in, depriving the Armed Forces of Ukraine of the possibility of rotation, replenishment of ammunition, fuel and fuel, which in the end will inevitably lead to surrender.

Thirdly, in the border regions of Russia, for more than a year, full-fledged Territorial Defense Troops, organized, trained and armed with at least small arms, have not been created. It was they who could guard the border and fight saboteurs.

No conclusions have been drawn, the special operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine continues ahead of schedule. Even after Ukrainian UAV strikes on the Kremlin, the highest militarypolitical guide refuses to come out of self-isolation from the harsh reality and continues the limited NWO, when Ukraine wages an all-out war of annihilation against Russia. After the recent statement by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Peskov on this occasion, hands simply drop from the realization of helplessness and hopelessness:

Of course, it is very difficult to compare the military potential of Ukraine and Russia. And you say, why are the Russians so slow to act? Because the Russians are not at war... We are not at war. Waging war is a completely different matter, it is the complete destruction of infrastructure, it is the complete destruction of cities. We don't. We are trying to save infrastructure and we are trying to save human lives.

Even worse, the main problems caused by such an unforgivably frivolous attitude towards the most dangerous enemy are ahead.

Time of difficult decisions

About the situation that has developed in the Russian army with the "shell hunger" at the front and the supply, in general, we told earlier. Thanks to the media activity of the "music producer" Yevgeny Prigozhin, the attention of the alarmed patriotic public is riveted to Artemovsk, where the Wagner PMC is constantly in need of shells to continue the offensive. This small city has almost been liberated, and the desire to complete what has been started is understandable.

The problem is that not only the Ukrainian Teroborona is mutually “grinded” there, but also the most experienced and trained attack aircraft that Russia has today. Yevgeny Prigozhin himself speaks of heavy losses and the need to withdraw the Wagner to the rear in order to "lick the wounds." At the same time, the offensive operation in Artemovsk, having no strategic significance, burns not only human, but also materialtechnical resource. There, in the "Bakhmut meat grinder", scarce shells are used, which, accordingly, are becoming smaller in the Russian army, dispersed along a very wide front line.

At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already assembled a powerful shock fist, which, according to some sources, can reach a strength of 80 people. Even the local counter-offensive of the enemy near Artemovsk showed that the flanks of the "musicians" were covered unreliably. To leave the almost liberated city of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation "Wagner" was forbidden. Increasing pressure of the Ukrainian army in order to encircle Artemivsk will either lead to the death of our assault infantry in the “cauldron”, or to draw into the battles to hold this town more and more units and subunits of the RF Armed Forces - paratroopers, marines, special forces, etc. As a result of the “Bakhmut meat grinder”, not Ukraine, but Russia may be left without the core of a combat-ready army and without a sufficient number of shells required to repel the expected offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

And it will. Having exhausted the resources of the RF Armed Forces near Artemovsk, the enemy will certainly will go on the attack along a broad front in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, looking for weaknesses, and will carry out deep breakthroughs there in order to encircle. As yesterday's tragic events showed, aircraft and helicopters of the Russian Aerospace Forces may not even reach the place to break the mechanized columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the march in the field, which was clearly the stake of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. In the coming summer, it is quite possible to fight until the next "regrouping" from Melitopol and Berdyansk to the Crimea in order to "take positions more convenient for defense." After that, the peninsula will be under fire from large-caliber artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and British long-range missiles "Storm Shadow", which will hit Sevastopol. Then either another "difficult decision" or general mobilization.

What can be done to prevent Big Problems?

First of all, it is necessary start right now to systematically destroy transport infrastructure of Ukraine, making it difficult for the enemy to transfer reinforcements, ammunition, fuel and fuel and lubricants. You also need to correctly prioritize the war and take Wagner PMC from Artemovsk to the rear for rest and replenishment. We will soon need a combat-ready reserve, which will have to be deployed to various sectors of the front to stop the breakthroughs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The effect of the loss, or rather not the capture of Artemovsk, is incomparable with the possible loss of the Azov region, which will be a severe military-political and image defeat for Russia and its president personally. If the Chechen special forces are ready to keep Bakhmut, let them keep it.

In the border regions, it is necessary to create not unarmed people's squads, but real Territorial Defense Troops, which will help cover the rear of our group in the Donbass. It is necessary to start centrally purchasing the most necessary things for the needs of the army in sufficient quantities - radio stations, repeaters and routers for establishing communication, coordination and interaction, train signalmen to work with this equipment, buy thermal imagers, drones, bulletproof vests, increase the production of shells and gunpowder for them. It is necessary to create additional reserves in the form of new units and subunits, which, most likely, will have to be promptly brought into battle. And we must be morally and logistically prepared for the next mobilization, which is better to start right now.
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  1. Alexander Tutunenko (Alexander Tutunenko) 14 May 2023 10: 51
    Bravo, Sergey. As always smart, sensible and intelligible. The trouble is that the authorities will not do any of this.
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 14 May 2023 13: 22
      Quote: Alexander
      The trouble is that the authorities will not do any of this.

      Is there a way out? Yes! But this requires the introduction of martial law, with the complete nationalization of industry, with the introduction of real, military acceptance by representatives who have real combat experience.
      Equate any manifestations of corruption with high treason, with appropriate preventive measures.
      The command, which allowed heavy losses of l / s, territories - demotion, to the appropriate level of fault, with sending to the front line (until real proof, of their qualifications). From the front line to the execution, depending on the severity of the crimes.
      Without holding such events, defeat will be only a matter of time.
    2. Ru_Na Offline Ru_Na
      Ru_Na (Rustam) 14 May 2023 21: 56
      Quote: Alexander Tutunenko
      Bravo, Sergey. As always smart, sensible and intelligible. The trouble is that the authorities will not do any of this.

      The authorities are leading the SVO, it needs to negotiate in a grain deal so that some individuals do not miss their benefits, it needs to develop regular multi-movements and cunning plans, and our glorious Moscow Region is weaving intrigues at this time, everything is fine, beautiful marquise, everything is fine! am
      This is sarcasm if so)
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 May 2023 10: 57
    Arm the people? arm commoners? to tear them away from exploitation by the capitalists?
    So far, for a year, the Power has not gone for it. As well as the destruction of Ukraine's transport.
    As well as did not go to the creation of a larger number of rapid response groups such as SMERSH-2 in difficult areas.

    But Bastrykin (not the first, however) has already voiced his opinion on what needs to be done! Return to the formula "Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality"
    And then we'll live, they say. New boyars, for sure, and the rest - as it comes out.
    1. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 14 May 2023 13: 55
      Bastrykin spoke about the nationalization of the main sectors of the economy.
      And this is directly opposite to the proposals for a new privatization.
      So now our oligarchy will "bring down" it.
      The campaign to discredit him has probably already begun, judging by this comment.
      1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 14 May 2023 17: 13
        When our officials talk about nationalization, they mean the transfer of property under the direct control of them, their loved ones. Moreover, they do not want to be responsible for the result and will not be, just as they are not responsible for the results of their activities now, but they are ready to dispose of the profit from this property even now. But there will really be no kickbacks under such a scheme - why take kickbacks if you already own everything? It is Bastrykin who acts as the mouthpiece of such people.
        PS Our officials will easily receive cash from both privatization and nationalization. The main thing is that there should be at least some movement, more muddy water, and the fish will be caught in it.
  3. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 14 May 2023 11: 00
    The priority steps listed by the author are obvious and have been for a long time. Those in power do not give an answer to a single question about the course of the SVO. We have the State Duma (representatives of the people, the best of the best). They have the authority to make parliamentary requests. At least one of them asked the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation ?? If asked, why are the answers not published??
    After the end of the NWO, none of those who are now sitting there and swallowing nonsense from Peskov and Shoigu should not stay there. And the one that was going to the elections in 2024 too.
  4. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 May 2023 11: 18
    Why is it impossible to arm the people and create territorial defense troops?
    They did it in Ukraine. They won't do it in Russia. Unfortunately, the comparison is not in favor of Russia.

    Imagine the situation in the outback. The official once again nightmares a simple citizen. And a citizen has a machine gun in his hands (or at home). An armed people is possible only in one case. When the goals and actions of the people and the authorities coincide.
    If this happens, then this will be the most valuable acquisition of Russia. Not joining multiple areas. And not a change of power in Kyiv. And not even a rollback of NATO from the borders of Russia. Reformatting the power and economic goals of the country is what is most important now.
    1. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
      Vasya_33 14 May 2023 11: 40
      At what age do law enforcement officers and the military retire?
      how many hunters live in the border areas?

      - that's already a small group.
    2. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 14 May 2023 13: 47
      Quote: Bakht
      Why is it impossible to arm the people and create territorial defense troops?
      They did it in Ukraine. They won't do it in Russia. Unfortunately, the comparison is not in favor of Russia.

      If we assume that the Russian authorities are puppets of the West, then this provision is logical.
      Russia was assigned to destruction, and therefore - gross destruction of ammunition (without the use of means of adjustment), underfunding of all types of modern communications, intelligence, high-precision systems, failure of weapons of territorial defense (potential resistance forces), will lead the people to mass destruction, without the possibility of self-defense .
      Ukraine must "win", so everything that can be used - applicable.
      Russia to issue weapons to self-defense must not, because this can lead to "unjustified losses" of NATO troops during the seizure of Russian territory. The non-use of nuclear weapons will be provided by "lapdogs in stripes."
      I really want to believe that the above is "the delirium of a madman", but it is very convincing, the "authorities" of Russia are leading to this.
      The people can only hope that God will not allow the death of Russia. We will believe that new "Minins and Pozharskys" will appear, and not "bulk ghouls".
    3. Raymond Offline Raymond
      Raymond (Raymond) 14 May 2023 14: 29
      It is impossible to arm the people in Russia, because the current government is afraid that the people will be able to defend themselves...
    4. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 14 May 2023 17: 16
      Yes, what are you talking about? The armed population can, God forbid, turn into a people. And the authorities will have to reckon with the people, it is with the population that you can do whatever you want.
  5. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 May 2023 11: 26
    Topcore article dated March 6"Prigozhin: Wagner representative denied access to NVO group headquarters"

    It has a phrase

    "Wagner" from just a private army, the best in the world, capable of defending the state, will turn into an army with an ideology. Such an ideology will be the struggle for justice, he specified.

    And my comment

    Prigozhin did not teach history well at school. There can be no such army in the state. In any state

    Now imagine the fear of officials if this "army with ideology" comes to his office to demand justice. So since March 6, I believe that Prigozhin has become in opposition to the government. Personalities don't matter. To the model of Russian power that is available, Prigozhin is in clear opposition.
  6. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
    hellman anton (hellman anton) 14 May 2023 11: 47
    For 1 year and 6 months they didn’t do anything, supposedly they will change and they will? Well, this is the stuff of fantasy.
    The Kremlin was given a covid, which was very battered by the European and American economies.
    If the NWO had started then, there would have been a chance that it was not economically beneficial for NATO, but the brilliant geostrategist waited until the NATO countries recovered, their economies would take off after the covid fall. It's phenomenal.

    a year and a half has passed, there were no strike UAVs, and no. Well, except in the news that something was doubled. Nothing is planned to be done, all the warehouses that the USSR left will be spent, these galoshes. What will be left for posterity? Hangars with fittings, yeah.

    Therefore, one can only sit and write with a sad look, and what needs to be changed - in the hope of a miracle. A miracle will not happen, because who could do this MIRACLE - they cannot take leadership positions, they transmit bad reports to the authorities. And as you know, the main thing is a successful success in the report.
  7. Winger Offline Winger
    Winger (Oleg) 14 May 2023 14: 12
    Are they deaf?? Who just didn't talk about it. Write, 100500 times, write. May be

    The king is not real
  8. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 14 May 2023 14: 38
    In addition to foreign air defense missiles, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have S-300 missiles. The destruction of transport structures will give a result. But until we destroy the means of communication, we will not avoid trouble. After all, it is clear that a person giving a tip worked on our territory. And possibly from a regular phone.
  9. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 14 May 2023 15: 16
    To successfully repel an enemy offensive, you need:
    a) superior, not suppressed by the enemy, firepower: artillery, MANPADS, air force strikes,
    b) powerful counterattacks at the base of the breakthrough. If it does, there is a chance. Naturally, it is necessary to have a combat-ready motivated army. And in our country only Wagner is combat-ready and motivated, and he is tired. Were cutting off the best infantry on an insignificant sector of the front. Conclusion: a catastrophe in the south is inevitable.
  10. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 14 May 2023 16: 25
    Mr. Marzhetsky pulled out of mothballs two strange words in relation to Ukraine, demilitarization and denazification. In the Kremlin, these two words seem to be banned. It is understandable, Moscow's strange operation turned the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the strongest army in Europe, nazified Ukraine, hit the Russian Federation with sanctions and catalyzed the expansion of NATO. I’ve been reading the author’s wishes for a year, Mr. Marzhetsky seems to be close to despair, I want to express support for him and advise him to accept Russian realities without beauty in order to maintain mental health in such a turbulent time)).
  11. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 14 May 2023 17: 27
    Apparently, difficult decisions will soon be made personally by the Supreme Command, both for military personnel and for those who are responsible for the military-industrial complex.
  12. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 14 May 2023 17: 56
    The people will start fighting for their country only when they realize that the country itself, represented by its leadership, is really ready to defend it. As long as the authorities are pursuing their dubious pocket goals and hoping to squeeze the enemy a little, and there, you see, and agree, there will be no sense. And the enemy is real, convinced and strong. So it turns out that the leaders are looking for how to get out of the trap without personal losses, while the lower classes are only looking at this, feeling the losses. Dead end.
  13. valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
    valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 14 May 2023 18: 36
    The ban on the destruction of infrastructure was introduced so that our oligarchs could seize it in working order in the future. And one more thing - if it goes on like this, then a situation may arise when the upper classes cannot, but the lower classes do not want to!
  14. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
    Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 14 May 2023 18: 54
    Our problems:
    1. We all the time act within the framework defined for us by Western "partners".
    Red lines are always assigned to us, if you do this, we will put both, and so on. and so on.
    We don’t have any initiatives, the Britons have delivered rockets, and how will we respond? Where are the Polonaises, Iranian ballistic missiles?
    2. "Our" leaders are still hoping to reach an agreement.
    They convince us that we just need to explain to Western partners that we are not enemies, we are the same, we just want to live by our own rules (benefit). This is no longer naivety, this is already a betrayal, and according to the laws of the military ...., oh yes, we are not at war ... you can safely kiss the hands of "prima donnas".
    3. The people do not trust the authorities, the authorities are afraid of the people.
    A combatant in the border areas with an ID is cool. They dragged on with mobilization for so long and now they are doing everything through ..opu again. Yes, our people are much better than the authorities, they go both old and young, and not for money (although they also do not interfere).
    Problem solving:
    1. Remove white gloves and pink glasses.
    The faster, the less losses!
    2. Realize that you can’t trade with enemies with your left hand, and fight with your right hand.
    Everyone who died is on the conscience of the one who brought the country to war. And you can't get off with candles in the church here.
    3. We must start seriously, not only in words but also in deeds!
    1. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
      Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 14 May 2023 19: 38
      What does it mean to start in earnest? All types of weapons except nuclear are used in huge quantities. Moscow no longer has anything that could change the course of the company.
      1. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
        Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 14 May 2023 21: 13
        Read the main article, everything is written there as it should be in a serious way. Nuclear weapons have nothing to do with it at all.
  15. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
    Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 14 May 2023 20: 15
    What does real territorial defense troops subordinate to the Ministry of Defense mean? Ideally, these are reserve troops who previously served in motorized rifle and tank troops and who were specially called up from the border areas and who were called up in the border areas for periodic military training on the basis of military bases of spare equipment (formerly called NZ). This of course takes a long time. Otherwise, territorial defense is just a poorly trained militia with guns. Those who wish to serve in the defense industry now - it is better to call on the border troops to eliminate solid holes in the border.
    1. Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
      Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 14 May 2023 21: 21
      Who served in the SA in the Far East knows what a fortified is. area. It takes no more than a month to create such SDs in the border areas. Young strong fighters are not needed there. Everything will be done by military pensioners. Even with old weapons from the times of the USSR, tanks, armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles, Shilka artillery, air defense. By the way, who knows what a BUK is? No, this is not air defense, this is a crooked combat installation! It was like that!!!
  16. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 14 May 2023 20: 57
    The word nationalization often sounds in articles and comments. The authors do not delve into the essence of the issue that on the territory of the USSR, as a result of a coup d'état and the liquidation of the USSR, the property of the people was seized, i.e. theft. The return to the owner of the stolen is a confiscation. The comprador power of the Russian Federation will never go to the confiscation of the stolen, as it is itself criminal. All that the author wrote is questions of tactics that are implemented in the presence of a strategy that the Russian Federation does not have, just as there is no goal of the NWO. What should be done. The authorities of the Russian Federation issue a Law, which states that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. This is the goal. After the issuance of such a Law, the entire war in Ukraine will quickly disappear and NATO will have to leave. In the worst case, NATO will send its troops to the territory of Ukraine, but then there will be a war with NATO, i.е. Third nuclear world war. You can consider a lot of solutions, but without a goal and strategy, this is just Odessa noise.
  17. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 14 May 2023 22: 38
    and British long-range missiles "Storm Shadow",

    storm shadow - storm shadow

    Yandex-translator gives a more plausible translation of the name of the rocket.
  18. who are you Offline who are you
    who are you (Vadim Levin) 14 May 2023 23: 44
    Our president has repeatedly stated that he will not allow a repetition of 1917, so there will be no people's territorial defense. Pathetic words about ancestors, at odds with actions.
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  20. Allbe Diplomat Offline Allbe Diplomat
    Allbe Diplomat (All be Diplomat) 15 May 2023 00: 33
    Because of the threat of encirclement, Bakhmut will have to leave
  21. Allbe Diplomat Offline Allbe Diplomat
    Allbe Diplomat (All be Diplomat) 15 May 2023 01: 06
    Today, Zelya announced that he will have two more visits and after them the offensive will begin. So they haven't started yet.
  22. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 15 May 2023 08: 25
    I forgot about combat airships again. Disorder.
    It is ridiculous to read reproaches against the General Staff that the siege of Kharkov was not organized. It is immediately clear that the great strategist vegetates on the couch.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 16 May 2023 01: 22
      As for Kharkov, it was necessary to occupy it in February 2022, but now it’s too late, since even a blockade needs a lot of troops. The city is very big. In February 2022, there were no significant troops there. We needed an additional 2-3 motorized infantry divisions, which were not there, and everything would have been done. There would be a completely different situation for the Donbass. And if there were an additional 100 thousand troops, then almost all of the left-bank Ukraine would be cut off by a blow from Belgorod - Kharkov - Zaporozhye (without occupying the latter) and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass would be surrounded. And there was no need to break into Kyiv and storm the Donbass cities head-on. In this case, we would have a very advantageous position for negotiations. However, 200 thousand reservists had to be called in advance.
  23. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 15 May 2023 08: 42
    Oh, I foresee that soon there will be a regrouping, and then again mobilization, and again untrained mobs will be thrown to plug holes, as my friend was sent to the Svatovo region, in early October last year. Where he fought back in 3 days, it’s good that he received minor injuries.
    And all this instead of creating and training reserves in a calm environment.
  24. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 15 May 2023 08: 44
    Quote: who
    Our president has repeatedly stated that he will not allow a repetition of 1917, so there will be no people's territorial defense. Pathetic words about ancestors, at odds with actions. So either the toilets are not the same or the wetters are different

    He already has someone to fear. We have dozens of units not controlled by the Defense Ministry
  25. imjarek Offline imjarek
    imjarek (imjarek) 15 May 2023 10: 00
    "...Katz offers to surrender!..."
  26. observer23 Offline observer23
    observer23 (Igor) 15 May 2023 18: 17
    This shows that the West is specifically engaged in Russia, and the leadership is playing a giveaway.
  27. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 20 May 2023 10: 01
    We just need to fight, and not pretend to carry out a humanitarian operation. In addition, when they start talking about retention, this is already a discussion of the surrender of Russia under any demagogic cover. Wars are not won by defense and holding. All such messages come from the ruling elite, only they are inclined to conclude surrender agreements. They do not allow the use of powerful weapons on such a scale to win, because it seems to her that it is necessary to put forward humanitarian issues, and not the desire for victory.