Several planes and helicopters of the Russian Aerospace Forces were shot down in the Bryansk region during the day

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On May 13, in the airspace over the Bryansk region of the Russian Federation, several incidents occurred at once with military aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces. So, first, a Mi-8 helicopter caught fire in the sky over Klintsy, which led to the fall of a rotorcraft, and then, in the village of Istrovka near Starodub, a Su-34 fighter-bomber fell.

Video posted online from the Klintsovsky district (approximately 50 km from the border with Ukraine) shows how an outbreak occurs, and then an uncontrollable and burning helicopter rushes to the ground. Both crew members were killed. The fire that originated at the crash site of the rotorcraft was extinguished.



After that, information appeared in Russian near-military publics about the defeat of a helicopter from MANPADS by Ukrainian saboteurs who had entered the territory of the Russian Federation. But there is no official confirmation yet, the emergency services are speculating that the helicopter could have crashed due to an engine failure. However, according to the Russian media, the special services of the Russian Federation are looking for Ukrainian saboteurs in the territory of the Bryansk region, who used MANPADS in the Klintsovsky district.




As for the Su-34, it crashed near the Ukrainian border. According to the Mash Telegram channel, both crew members died. For some reason, the pilot and navigator were unable to eject. The reasons for the incident are being established. A video of the alleged fall also appeared on the Web, the sound was removed, as in other frames, due to the presence of profanity.


Unfortunately, Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the administration of the Zaporozhye region, signaled on his Telegram channel that these were not all incidents with Russian aircraft that occurred that day in the Bryansk region. According to him, two Mi-8 helicopters and two aircraft fell in the mentioned region in one day: a SU-34 fighter-bomber and a Su-35 fighter of the Russian Aerospace Forces, i.e. four aircraft units.

Shot down two Mi-8s, one Su-35 and one Su-34

Rogov wrote.

After some time, information appeared that the means of aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces could be shot down by the enemy from the territory of the Chernihiv region.

The fate of the crew members of the second Mi-8 helicopter and the Su-35 fighter (according to other sources, we are talking about the Su-25 attack aircraft) is unknown.

In Russian paramilitary publics, it is suggested that the Mi-8MTPR-1 electronic warfare helicopters with the Rychag-AV active jamming stations installed on board were engaged in providing the Su-34 bomber with air bombs from the UMPC on another target in the Chernihiv region, and the Su-35 fighter carried out cover during NWO. Moreover, the Rychag-AV station was specially created to jam the radar guidance of air defense systems and enemy aircraft at a distance of more than 100 km.

We express our condolences to the families and friends of the deceased children. We are waiting for clarification from the Russian Ministry of Defense.
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    1. +22
      13 May 2023 17: 00
      they adopted laws about discrediting in time ... otherwise all these characters learned so many good things about themselves ...

      so hand over almost a TEN professionals for nothing ... well, special greetings to the brilliant Kravchenko. I think it's time for the authorities to take care of them ...

      with such wildest "professionals" who occupied all administrative structures, it is impossible to win at least in the NWO, even in the war ... if there are no purges in the near future (which I do not believe in), the result of the NWO will soon be completely clear
      1. -1
        13 May 2023 22: 12
        You have no idea how clear the result is already.
        And Russian leaders know this, especially Putin.
        Except that we must now save face, tell the people that our people were worthy, brave, proud, defending the nation.
        Regretting what I did is better than regretting what I didn't do...
        So the challenge is to do the bare minimum so that we can say we tried.
    2. +5
      13 May 2023 17: 03
      Yeah. It looks like Kyiv has found an effective way to deal with planning bombs
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    3. +9
      13 May 2023 17: 09
      Quote: Vlad Srs
      Yeah. It looks like Kyiv has found an effective way to deal with planning bombs

      It falls short of an "effective way of fighting". Just a well-planned ambush. This, alas, happens.

      Another big question is their merit or our defect. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we flew +/- one route over and over again.
      1. +9
        13 May 2023 17: 44
        They used something very effective, successfully bypassing countermeasures. It looks like front-line aviation will not be noticeable in the near future, as well as planning bombs.
        1. +3
          13 May 2023 20: 15
          she was almost invisible
      2. -4
        13 May 2023 23: 18
        The electronic warfare was turned off, or the decisions were made by the pilots for the place of the reb Lever! Maybe the reb, like all military equipment in Russia, was a fake from Rostec and the Moscow Region. The situation is the same with the Khabins. As a year will soon pass when the Ministry of Defense announced the modernization of the Reb Khabins. Rostec also announced a year ago that Nails mini-rockets for air defense systems went into series. And where are the shells with nails against UAVs?
    4. +17
      13 May 2023 17: 32
      Nothing special

      (V.V. Putin)
      The Ministry of Defense, the General Staff of the Russian Federation in particular, and the Russian army as a whole amaze the whole world with their helplessness. There is nothing: no intelligence, no analytics, no will, no desire to change something.
      Those in power in Russia are already exhausted, but they want so much to, as before, to save money and go to Nice with Courchevel.
      1. +5
        13 May 2023 21: 43
        There is one positive side to all problems: it is a frank assessment of Russian military power, which Putin has undoubtedly overestimated.

        Indeed, if he is mistaken in Russia's military potential, he may be mistaken in his geopolitical vision of the world.

        How sad to realize that all these sacrifices are the result of vanity and misjudgment.
        1. 0
          13 May 2023 23: 45
          Putin did not understand at all what was happening in the defense industry! Yes, he was not interested in what was happening with the enterprises of the defense industry and design bureaus. He, like Minister of Defense Shoigu, early. General Staff Gerasimov and their deputies were interested in providing fake information in articles for the population about the defense of the country.
      2. +2
        14 May 2023 13: 58
        The Ministry of Defense, the General Staff of the Russian Federation in particular, and the Russian army as a whole amaze the whole world with their helplessness. There is nothing: no intelligence, no analytics, no will, no desire to change something.
        Those in power in Russia are already exhausted, but they want so much to, as before, to save money and go to Nice with Courchevel.

        Why was the NWO to start, the people from the NWO are also sour. Not because Courchevel is inaccessible, but because you have to count pennies in your pockets, and whoever is worse, pay with your life. And their relatives and friends: husbands and fathers, sons and brothers to lose! The question is why SVO?
    5. +12
      13 May 2023 17: 43
      So after all, in the Ministry of Defense they said that the Ukrainian air defense was almost completely suppressed and that our borders were locked up, and what, and how to understand all this now, again, as always, on the old rake, such huge losses in the Aerospace Forces in a day, it turns out that the bitter experience of us is so nothing and does not teach, or maybe sabotage, betrayal, incompetence, how can all this be explained ???
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      2. -2
        13 May 2023 21: 53
        Russian society and the administrative system are built around the central idea that a person should not think, just act as the system has thought everything through, without deviating from the rule.
        As a result, when a rule is bad or inappropriate, there is no way to adjust to the situation while waiting for rule changes.
        And since changing the rules is impossible without the approval of the ruler, well, consider that about 500 people will die on the Russian side before anyone tells the ruler that he is wrong.
    6. +9
      13 May 2023 18: 19
      For 100km. station can work. And what the hell planes and helicopters were practically on the border with Ukraine. Why was the helicopter so high? After all, it is very easy to knock him down at such a height. It shines on all Ukrainian radars. It is necessary to ask those who gave them such a flight mission. Pity the pilots. Rest in peace !
      1. +9
        13 May 2023 19: 16
        With the Su-34, everything is clear - our planning bombs do not plan too far, moreover, if they are dropped from a great height. To cover it, there was a Su-35 nearby, and two turntables put active interference, that is, carried out electronic warfare. It was only when they shouted from every iron that our electronic warfare was the best in the world (many remember the joke about the destroyer Donald Cook de-energized by the Khibiny), they meant a comparison with our own weapons and equipment of the last century. As long as Ukraine used Soviet weapons, everything was tolerable. When they received and mastered NATO equipment, the same anti-aircraft systems, air-to-air missiles, it turned out that the interference not only did not interfere with them too much, they also made it easier to target the source of this interference - electronic warfare aircraft and helicopters.
        So, I'm afraid, our aviation was actually landed - in this situation, if it fails to pick up countermeasures, aviation will only be able to launch missiles from the depths of the country's airspace, without approaching the border closer than 100 km. And the big question is whether these missiles will pass through dill air defense, but at least we won’t lose planes and crews. And the use of planning bombs becomes just as impossible as it has long been - free-falling ones. Helicopters, at least strike helicopters, can generally be taken to the rear - there are simply no scenarios for their use. Airborne defense systems, all sorts of "Vitebsk", seem to exist in the form of an exhibition copy, or they do not at all correspond to their purpose.
      2. +7
        13 May 2023 22: 02
        His task was to jam gps frequencies ...
        And in the interference efficiency ratio, the square root of the radiation height is a success factor ...
        Just know that this carriage was expected in this place. The catastrophic result was not the fault of the crew, but the fault of the military command, which does not know how to proceed.
    7. +17
      13 May 2023 18: 57
      Everything goes according to plan.
      Russia is not at war, Russia is conducting NWO.
      Yes, for such a CBO .............................................. ....................... (otherwise article).
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      2. +3
        14 May 2023 10: 03
        Stalin was right in applying the most severe measures to the military leadership, which allowed such mistakes
        The country urgently needs to restore SMERSH and the tribunals must work, as during the war! Especially since this is war.
    8. +17
      13 May 2023 19: 32
      It’s sad to read all this, but the crests really nailed the entire Black Sea Fleet to the pier, and now they’ve most likely landed aircraft, I think the cabling and planning bombs will be reduced to zero. And they haven’t even started yet, they’re just probing the defense. (more than 100 thousand) will move to our defense lines, plus add "surprises" here as today, and perhaps even more powerful and tragic.
      There are two differences in this muddy SVO that do not coincide with each other at all.
      APU:
      1: They said that they would sink the Black Sea Fleet and sank Moscow and the entire fleet was standing near the coast, practically not involved in the NWO
      2: They said they would hit the Crimean bridge and hit
      3: They said they would hit the Kremlin and hit
      4; Everything they say is done with 100% success
      RF:
      1: Drawing red lines and shaking fingers, extending grain deals, pumping gas and oil through Ukraine.
    9. +2
      13 May 2023 19: 36
      Cry to God. Russia seems to only be able to win a war with at least 10 million dead.
    10. 0
      13 May 2023 20: 29
      No one will tell the truth about how four sides were filled up at a time to us ordinary citizens. The authorities do not count how many died, what losses, the authorities count the time, the process. Before the presidential elections in the Russian Federation, a year, all this year, the process will go on. It becomes clear to the majority that liberal capitalists will not hold power in the Russian Federation without a war. The military is also not stupid and no one wants to die for real someone's game of giveaway.
    11. 0
      13 May 2023 21: 46
      Now our chickens will fly over their own territory, as in Afghanistan. And who will cover civilian sides on takeoff and landing
    12. +11
      13 May 2023 21: 54
      This once again suggests that instead of developing a satellite system, we were engaged in the transportation of American astronauts. We are outplayed in intelligence, efficiency, communications ... It seems that our generals were preparing for the last war ...
    13. +8
      13 May 2023 22: 04
      They are interested in the ammonia pipeline.
    14. +3
      13 May 2023 22: 41
      Quote: Nikolai Volkov
      they adopted laws about discrediting in time ... otherwise all these characters learned so many good things about themselves ...

      so hand over almost a TEN professionals for nothing ... well, special greetings to the brilliant Kravchenko. I think it's time for the authorities to take care of them ...

      with such wildest "professionals" who occupied all administrative structures, it is impossible to win at least in the NWO, even in the war ... if there are no purges in the near future (which I do not believe in), the result of the NWO will soon be completely clear

      It is already clear to everyone. It is not clear only to those who live in the world of pink ponies and who believe the false propaganda of the state media.
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    16. +6
      13 May 2023 22: 49
      There are apparently two problems that require urgent solutions:
      1. The airborne forces are relaxed on the territory of the Russian Federation and do not expect provocations near their airfields, remember Engels, where strategic aircraft stood without shelters and air defense;
      2. The FSB of the Russian Federation is not able to close the territory of the Russian Federation from subversive Ukrainian groups, which are not the first time they have been hosting in the Bryansk region.
      But what conclusions will be drawn and what actions will follow, we can only guess.
    17. +3
      14 May 2023 01: 21
      If the goal is to consider the controlled killing of the country, then the current schizophrenic patriotism is working very successfully, a quarter of a century soon. Gaidars of the 90s were too frank. This dream of reason is striking, especially against the backdrop of neighboring China. It's time to stop being surprised and, for starters, come to the polls at least once with a decent percentage. To spend 5 minutes every 5 years, and not to engage in many hours of senile deduction - vote do not vote ...
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      2. +2
        14 May 2023 12: 45
        at least once with a decent percentage to come to the polls

        It is not clear just who to vote for, given the lies in the press. Look what an eagle Yeltsin was 30 years ago, as he was presented by the media, a Russian fighter for everything good. Everyone voted for him, but he turned out to be a drunk and a blockhead, and while he was drinking, his Jewish wife and daughter ruled the country, who allowed Judas with surnames like Abramovich, Berezovsky, Voloshin, Kagalovsky, Yumashev, Chubais (Segal), Gusinsky to seize people's property , Gaidar, Livshits, Prokhorov, Kogan, Goldovsky, Friedman, Mikhelson, Resin, Polonsky, Surkov, Aven, Vekselberg, Kantor and others.
      3. +3
        14 May 2023 14: 25
        Quote: Platon Verdictov
        If the goal is to consider the controlled killing of the country, then the current schizophrenic patriotism is working very successfully, a quarter of a century soon. Gaidars of the 90s were too frank. This dream of reason is striking, especially against the backdrop of neighboring China. It's time to stop being surprised and, for starters, come to the polls at least once with a decent percentage. To spend 5 minutes every 5 years, and not to engage in many hours of senile deduction - vote do not vote ...

        You are a very naive person. In Kommersant, a correspondent quotes Putin commenting on the election results in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions: how well they voted, they didn’t even have to correct the results! That's it, so I'm not going to waste five minutes and vote not so good, anyway, if the vote is not good, the results will be adjusted. I'm not saying that with the total domination of power on TV and in the media, black will be white and vice versa. I won’t go to the polls, I always went and voted mainly for the authorities, and she, me and the country let down.
    18. +1
      14 May 2023 05: 17
      They write that the flight path has not changed for a couple of months. Therefore, the complexity of the ambush was not great. This is another mention that a poor person, having good acquaintances, can become a respected officer of the General Staff. Russia is a land of opportunity.
    19. +1
      14 May 2023 05: 57
      In a similar situation, SMERSH greatly improved the situation
    20. +3
      14 May 2023 06: 11
      No need to blame the electronic warfare. The Ukrainian DRG entered like a home suppressed our electronic warfare (helicopters) The RF Ministry of Defense showed its professional suitability, crests study and we drink and celebrate
    21. 0
      14 May 2023 07: 32
      As a result of the crash of 2 Mi-8 helicopters and Su-34 and Su-35 fighters, nine people died!!!
    22. +1
      14 May 2023 08: 24
      Konashenkov is a repeater. He reads with leaden eyes from the monitor screen what is displayed there. It is likely without thinking and not analyzing the numbers.
      1. 0
        14 May 2023 12: 07
        You open Google, write Konoshenkov and look at his position. Then you come here and don't tell nonsense. Read about his position a million times if you still don't understand. If the MO stopped believing, who is to blame? The case is not the person who is responsible for this?
    23. +2
      14 May 2023 09: 46
      When the equipment is on a flight, everything should be on the WWI, in the 90s we did not rise above 8-10 meters on the Mi-15 on the route, only to fly around power lines and obstacles, and then the Mi-8 flew a kilometer in height, what is this flight mission?
      1. +6
        14 May 2023 11: 02
        The indignation of the patriotically inclined part of the population is understandable - how is it: "near-minded diggers of the seas", "Sumers", "horses", etc. using "outdated", "inefficient", "lagging behind in all respects", etc. Western technology and with the rest of the help "liberal", "degrading", "gay" West, holding back the second army of the world, under the control of the best military leaders in the world and under the leadership of a brilliant multi-move player, of all times and peoples, the best grandmaster of political parties on the world chessboard .... Directly breaking the pattern some. request
        1. +1
          14 May 2023 14: 47
          Yes, country 404. What is this country 404? A country that is supported by many countries of the world.