Rogozin announced the need for re-mobilization in Russia


Former head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin said that the Russian army needs a second wave of mobilization. He substantiated his opinion by the need to make up for losses among the personnel and the strength of the enemy opposing the army of the Russian Federation.


We are not at war with Bantustan somehow, you understand. This is not an operation in Syria against some Mujahideen. This is a war, in fact, to which we have been doomed for many, many years. It began, and it could not help starting, I am absolutely convinced of this. But this is not a war with Ukraine. This is, in fact, the solution of the issue of life and death for our country. This is our existential choice, you see. Either we or they

- said the ex-official on the air of the radio station "Moscow Speaks".

In his opinion, the army of the Kyiv regime, supported by the countries of the West, is today much stronger than the Russian one.

You just have to keep in mind that the enemy is much stronger than us. We cannot act here in such a way that it is every man for himself. That won't work at all. Therefore, mobilization is needed. And she had to go through not only one then, at the beginning of autumn, but she had to go through another mobilization

- says Dmitry Rogozin.

He noted that the RF Armed Forces are now experiencing certain difficulties with personnel.

We have personnel problems, you see. Because the guys get hurt, our fighters are killed. Even when the front is standing, there are constant shelling. We are losing the most combat-ready guys, and they need to be replenished

- the ex-head of Roskosmos is sure.

Recall that on the eve of Vladimir Putin signed a decree on conscription for military training of citizens who are in reserve.
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  1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 11 May 2023 10: 34
    +12
    Rogozin has quite a draft-age offspring - let him start with him ..
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 12 May 2023 10: 12
      -1
      Strange. And, after all, everywhere from all the irons it is reported that the Russian side "grinds" the enemy's manpower and equipment in his "meat assaults". Where are the losses? They shouldn't be. Russian soldiers are superbly equipped with everything necessary, equipped to the highest standard and therefore not vulnerable. Rogozin exaggerates. wassat
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 11 May 2023 10: 50
    +1
    It won't go by itself. Wow, how smooth.
    For nothing, he takes pictures in full body kit and with weapons, even when everyone around is in civilian clothes.

    + the son who sucked at the money already UAV, after the collapse of IL.

    By the way, in the scan about the call for storekeepers - points 1, 2 - are closed, a link to other, official, documents. Perhaps recruits will be sent
  3. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
    Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 11: 01
    +13
    Start at least with clear goals! It is necessary to mobilize not only physically, the main thing is to mobilize society morally!!!!!
    1. Explain to the people Why are we fighting? EVERYONE! (Goals once, Bandera atrocities two! It is necessary to work better on copper, in TG ..... And not like now, "in Soviet style", or on the shoulders of enthusiasts!)
    2. What are our goals, from which we will not retreat?!
    3. Stop whining about negotiations, "deals", etc.!
    4. Let the authorities show that their children are also at the front! (Both of Stalin's sons fought!)
    5. Let our "great and mighty oligarchs" speak publicly about their position! Clear and clear! (Whoever is against Russia is expelled to his beloved West .... with confiscation!)
    You say I'm naive?! Nope! There is no other way to mobilize society!
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 11: 18
      +2
      Quote: Alexbf109
      4. Let the authorities show that their children are also at the front!

      So power is a reflection of society.
      Take at least you - more than a year of screams about mobilization, and themselves in the military registration and enlistment office - no, no.

      At the same time, this war is frankly not needed by the authorities.
      When they started the SVO, they obviously weren’t going to get into large-scale protracted battles. A week later, as soon as it became completely clear that there would not be a repeat of Kazakhstan-2022 at all, we were ready to play back.
      The economy and society, all the more so, this NWO has not stuck.
      Tales about a shock fist prepared for an attack on a nuclear power from 0 Western tanks, 0 Western aircraft - this is only for those who, well, really want to believe in such tales.

      Now they are just dragging their feet and waiting for the announced offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      (well, it will not take place until the end of the season - and the same is not bad).
      1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 12: 48
        +1
        Take at least you - more than a year of screams about mobilization, and themselves in the military registration and enlistment office - no, no ...

        Well, probably, unlike you, "the hero of the capture of Upper Lars", I was in the military registration and enlistment office!))

        When they started the SVO, they obviously weren’t going to get into large-scale protracted battles

        Certainly! Only "play back", did not work! And I hope it doesn't!
        So it would be good for them to understand that they will have to strain! ("What a horror!" laughing )

        The economy and society, all the more so, this SVO didn’t get stuck

        But leave these liberoid nonsense to yourself!
        If you love "raspberry frappe and scooters", they did not understand and do not understand the fact that there would be a war anyway! (The issue of Crimea and Donbass, how would it be resolved? By itself?! Or were the Banderaites, led by global masters, waiting and preparing for a "movement" in Russia, in the region of 2024?!)
        The economy needs a shake-up! She needed a long time! A great opportunity to get off the "resources in exchange for Western goods" system! Isn't this what the people, the patriots, even the adequate "liberoids" asked for ??? EVERYONE WANTED CHANGE, didn't they! They asked, they demanded! And they are really ripe, THIS IS A FACT!!! Is not it?!!
        So what is everyone up to now?! Or do they all want change, but why would someone do it for them and strain?! request
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 13: 47
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          Quote: Alexbf109
          The issue of Crimea and Donbass, how would it be resolved? By itself?

          Just like now - no way.
          Would keep hanging in the air like Jammu and Kashmir.
          And it will hang in the air.
          Not a single actual territorial annexation (after the results of WWII were finalized) was officially recognized.
          Even Israel, although they are 2 heads more equal than all the others.

          I was in the military!

          AND? do you write from the front line?

          unlike you

          And I did not call, and I do not call for an escalation of hostilities.

          Quote: Alexbf109
          get off the "resources in exchange for Western goods" system!

          And transfer to "resources in exchange for Chinese goods", yeah ...
          And if China comes to an agreement with the United States, and solves its problems at the expense of the Russian Federation?
          So at least the export of surpluses of localized products and components grew.
          The EU willingly took semi-finished products such as plywood - but China prefers to take only round timber.
          And now you can't refuse him...

          The fact that the economy has survived and is not unsuccessfully looking for ways to develop is generally an economic miracle.
          But you need to understand that by 2030 it may easily turn out that everything heroically localized is inferior in quality / price to imported analogues.
          I gave an example, an ordinary machine assembled in China - even for large components, the national team of the countries of the world - except for China - Japan, Taiwan, France ...
          And now it is necessary to urgently develop the technologies of all these (and not only these) countries at once.

          EVERYONE WANTED CHANGE

          CHANGE wanted in the 198s.
          And pre-CBO years, evolutionary development was going on normally.
          1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
            Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 14: 19
            +3
            Just like now - no way.
            Would keep hanging in the air like Jammu and Kashmir.

            I don’t even want to comment on the delusional nature of this statement, which you have repeated more than once!

            Not a single actual territorial annexation (after the results of WWII were finalized) was officially recognized.

            Seriously? This is a "discovery" for me! laughing And where then did Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the GDR, the USSR ... Or "this is different!", Is this allowed to the West ?!

            AND? do you write from the front line?

            If someone has forgotten, then my profession is not military! If I had experience, I would have been there a long time ago! Mobilization will come, I will go, I will not smear myself! And the "heroes of the upper Lars" ?! Same? Or to the grandmother in the cellar, and let someone else’s homeland?! lol

            And I did not call, and I do not call for an escalation of hostilities

            From my adequate writings, as well as from your "peacekeeping", military operations do not depend in any way! Exodus and intensity,too! Be more appropriate.

            And if China comes to an agreement with the United States, and solves its problems at the expense of the Russian Federation?

            I don't believe in this! Let me explain with my fingers. China must understand that in the event of the defeat of Russia .... He is next! And I think they understand it. If I were China, I would be afraid that the Kremlin would come to an agreement with the United States .... wink

            But you need to understand that by 2030 it may easily turn out that everything heroically localized is inferior in quality / price to imported analogues.

            And how did you want?! Once, and in a couple of years, for example, making cars is cheaper and better in Japan ???
            You, liberals, only know how to ruin (Civil aviation, machine tool building, your own production of electronics, etc. under the slogans "We'll buy in the West, it's better there", and they buried it !!! And then, "and why are we falling in development ", "became like papuans, sell resources for beads (iPhones)").

            And pre-CBO years, evolutionary development was going on normally.

            NOT TRUE!
            Development, at least some of it, began only after the sanctions, after the "podzhopniks"! (at least mostly their food products are now on the shelves). And even then, the lion's share of this supposedly "development" turned out to be fraud and "numbers for beautiful reports"!
            And now, in order not to really be destroyed, the authorities will really have to do something more (And so many of them don’t want to go there, I understand! They would be better off with your "dreams about Jammu and Kashmir"). But really, now is a historical moment, a historical chance for Russia! ("Through the thorns to the stars," as the Romans used to say!)
            1. Nelton Offline Nelton
              Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 15: 07
              0
              Quote: Alexbf109
              No actual territorial accession (after the results of WWII were finalized) were not officially recognized."
              Seriously? This is a "discovery" for me! And where did Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the GDR, the USSR go then ... Or "this is different!",

              Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the USSR - fell apart, but no one attached their pieces to themselves.

              Is this allowed to the West?

              Just as the West can impose sanctions based on its own interests, it is also possible to impose sanctions against the West, everything is fair ...

              steel like Papuans, sell resources for beads (iPhones)

              "become" ? yes, always Russia - the USSR - the Russian Federation sold (in the sense of money) practically only resources. The publicized Soviet deliveries of machine tools in Papuan went exclusively free of charge. They didn't even give us bananas/oranges for them.
              That's about how we are building nuclear power plants now, very similar schemes ...

              Development, at least some of it, began only after the sanction

              Even in the notorious 199s in the Russian Federation, in Tver, they created an actually new powerful production of suburban trains, instead of Riga (imported since 1992) RVR.

              And how did you want?!

              Like China - South Korea and other countries.
              First, a purely SKD assembly, then the localization of components, then on the basis of a pool of own component manufacturers - their own manufacturing companies.
              Essno, without 146% localization.
              That's just how it went.
              Now you have to roll out.
              1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 15: 55
                +2
                Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the USSR - fell apart, but no one attached their pieces to themselves

                YOURSELF?! Especially Yugoslavia, and "proud and independent Kosovo", also SAMO, it worked! "The natural way", almost without NATO bombs! belay laughing .
                And the GDR was not attached to the FRG either ?!))
                With this, it is clear that the position "this is different", and "America is always right", has not changed a single gram among liberoids!
                Let's go further....

                The publicized Soviet deliveries of machine tools in Papuan went exclusively free of charge ..

                There is no need to distort here, and change the topic!
                If we talk about the gratuitousness of aid, then omitting the brackets that the USSR used this as "soft power", then yes. In many ways it was a mistake! First of all, you need to provide your country! Your people!
                And if, purely technically, then:
                Thousands of Civil Aviation aircraft flying, both in the USSR and around the world, are not taken into account ?! stop (Gaidar's liberoids collapsed).
                The military commissar, nuclear weapons, nuclear power plants, space, all this was inherited from the USSR, and was also appreciated all over the world!
                Last years, "progressive development", in the 90s it collapsed, and the 2000s ate up !!! And Russia completely lost all positions, and really turned into a country of "Papuans". Every year, the situation would only get worse!

                Like China - South Korea and other countries.

                I understand that you really do not understand the technique! From the word at all! I've noticed this before...
                Neither Korea nor China produces goods with a very high "redistribution", and the most complex ones, machine tools, mechanisms, etc.
                Yes, these are "huge production workshops of the Global World"! But these are not "laboratories, research institutes, or closed" special workshops "! Nobody TRANSFERED the most valuable technologies to them, if anything! (Such as the production of turbojet engines, high-precision machine tools, etc.)
                The path of China is the path of copying, and, accordingly, lagging behind .....
                Yes, and the global economy, you are also apparently not strong!
                No one in the "Global Peace" system was going to build from Russia, for example, "Korea"! Korea already exists! Yes, and in Russia, it's stupidly not profitable request It is advantageous to set up an "assembly shop" where it is warm, and there are a lot of poor people who will work hard for sandals and a bowl of rice! It is desirable that he be a little educated, but not necessarily (Yes, and educated, they begin to ask for more, demand something, etc.).
                Where does Russia have a competitive advantage over the countries of Southeast Asia? In Russia, a simple product will always produce more expensive at cost. And no one will give up the most complex and most technologically advanced!
                So, in the "Global Economy" system, Russia has not been allocated an enviable place! Somewhere, like Canada, but an order of magnitude poorer (there is still a border to the United States, and some more or less important production can be moved there). And there are a lot of people in Russia, so much is not needed for production and maintenance on a watch! Three times less!
                So liberoids, do not expect happiness from "Globalism" ...... You are unlikely to be among the right ones. There will be competition "wow", and you are a priori losing to "programmers, coaches, creatives, etc." from the West bully
                1. Nelton Offline Nelton
                  Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 16: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexbf109
                  In many ways it was a mistake! First of all, you need to provide your country! Your people!

                  Hooray! we are starting to find common ground.

                  Thousands of Civil Aviation aircraft flying, both in the USSR and around the world, are not taken into account ?!

                  And how many of those thousands did we wager for money?
                  7 pieces of Yak-40. 2 to Italy, 5 to Germany. But 4 were returned after 3 years - fuel has risen in price in those years. 2 crashed, 1 flew for a long time.
                  The rest went according to the compulsory schemes of the CMEA, and as soon as it became possible to take something else, they abandoned our "Tu", we from their "Ikarus".
                  And it is especially significant that even Iran prefers to buy used Boeings from African dumps, to keep them in flight condition with non-original spare parts - but not to take Tu-214 from us. SSJ was ready to take ...

                  The USSR also supplied helicopters outside the CMEA, more or less with payment, the Mi-8 turned out to be a masterpiece - but why is it so rarely remembered?
                  Yes, by the fact that they continued to produce it (including for export) in the Russian Federation all these years. The replacement of the engine that became imported was conceived back in 1999, mastered in 2011, and in 2014 they launched a new plant for this engine.
                  This does not fit into the heart-rending "liberals ruined everything", and one of the best achievements of the USSR is thrown out of the brackets.

                  Military commissar, nuclear weapons, nuclear power plants, space, all this was inherited from the USSR

                  Well, this is largely preserved and developed.
                  Plus, the "import substitution" of Ukrainian components, which began by no means yesterday and not even in 2014. Although after 2014 the process went at an accelerated pace.

                  No one in the "Global Peace" system was going to build from Russia, for example, "Korea"!

                  Of course. The salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves.
                  But no one really balked.
                  It has long been invented in the world and not by us that any manufacturer can be persuaded to localize production for a large domestic market. The Russian Federation has done and is doing this with success. Oddly enough, the Chinese agree to localization, although they might not agree.

                  In Russia, a simple commodity will always produce more at cost

                  Not always, but for now in the same China, wages are lower. Only now they are higher.
                  And shortly before the SVO, the first signs went - the Russian Federation won the tender for the placement of the Mazda engine plant under 100% export of products. (the plant was built and for a year and a half it really supplied engines for export).
                  Because of the SVO - oh, it will not be soon now that we will be allowed to such tenders, but the fact is indicative.
                  And see above, surpluses of localized products and components were briskly exported, up to Skoda cars in the Czech Republic.
                  1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                    Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 17: 50
                    +2
                    keep them in flight condition with non-original spare parts - but do not take the Tu-214 from us. SSJ was ready to take.

                    In your sky, what flew in 1991 ??? Now what?! And this is one of the most knowledge-intensive industries that draws both science and industry! And we banged it in the 90s ....

                    Well, this is largely preserved and developed

                    Saved, and then partially! And no development! And the world doesn't stand still...
                    For the time being, VVER NPP units are still competitive, but Protons and T-72 are no longer ....

                    Although after 2014 the process went at an accelerated pace ...

                    In, at least now you agreed that without a "kick" it all went at a snail's pace ... More precisely, it didn't go at all! (Beautiful reports)

                    Of course. The salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves.

                    Then what, "I wanted like in Korea, China," could one dream of ?! Just "dreamers" request

                    Not always, but for now in the same China, wages are lower ..

                    They will go again, but not to Russia! The new "assembly shop" will move to Bangladesh, India, Vietnam. More precisely, this is already happening, if you are not in the know (Your examples are some kind of "drops" in the world turnover)
                    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
                      Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 18: 49
                      0
                      Quote: Alexbf109
                      More precisely, it didn’t work at all!

                      Even before 2014, the gentlemen began to complain that they stopped taking their cars after the commissioning of the Tikhvin Carriage Building. And I already gave an example about the engine for the Mi-8. But yes, they artificially fed them with orders to the detriment of their enterprises - it was like that.

                      Now what?! And this is one of the most knowledge-intensive industries that draws both science and industry! And we banged it in the 90s ....

                      Stopped mass support.
                      Then you know, in those years, pensions would have been paid on time - it was already a success ...
                      However, orders for a small number of boards were retained in government agencies.

                      Let me remind you that in the 199s fuel became the same price for the external and domestic markets, the cost of tickets rose sharply, the number of air passengers fell sharply.
                      from 90 million in 1990 to 23 million in 2000.
                      (90 million - this includes many short local flights, they were the first to be reduced)
                      those. For 10 years, new planes are not needed at all - with a drop in the number of passengers, the oldest plane is simply thrown out.
                      At the same time, the country began to re-export Soviet aircraft for a penny.
                      Again, new aircraft are not required, and spare parts can be obtained by cannibalization.
                      growth gradually began from zero, and only in 2014 the number of air passengers exceeded the level of the RSFSR. At the peak (2019) reached 131 million.
                      And at this stage, just like in Iran, it turned out that a used Boeing is more profitable to operate than a new Tu-214.
                      Red Wings tried to build a business on the Tu-214 - it turned out so-so.

                      And since the middle of the XNUMXs, when it became more or less clear that there would be demand for aircraft, and that

                      this is one of the most knowledge-intensive industries that pulls

                      and began to scratch their turnips, and what's next.
                      Tu's production had shrunk to single pieces, and it was no easier to re-deploy than from scratch. (this is the same now - see what is happening in Kazan, bold plans - 10 pieces a year after 2025).
                      We decided to restart from scratch - and the use of imports made it possible to create a good series of 200+ SSJs, and at the same time load those manufacturers of components that were made in the Russian Federation with normal volumes.
                      And the SSJ program at the same time showed that after-sales service should be given great attention.

                      That's what and at what stage was wrong, in the conditions that were?
                      Was it necessary to stop paying pensions and continue to subsidize fuel for air travel? Buy new Tu and place them along the fence?
                      to make SSJ immediately 146% domestic, and lose year after year in bringing to the standards and certification of each node? And for "Tu" the problems with the nodes are the same, it was necessary to recreate everything anew - in order to get a deliberately non-competitive aircraft at the output, requiring constant subsidies.

                      But this is a lot of letters, it's much easier to yell "the liberals destroyed the aviation industry!"
                      1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 09: 29
                        +1
                        Even before 2014, the gentlemen began to complain that they stopped taking their cars after the commissioning of the Tikhvin Carriage Building

                        Then you know, in those years, pensions would have been paid on time - it was already a success

                        Something new, "liberoid-guardian", in one vial? belay
                        Usually liberoids scold Putin for everything that is possible and impossible ....
                        With the guards, he is "not guilty of anything!" ...
                        And you don't look like a patriot either. On the "imperial" or "Soviet man", even more so!
                        I'm just curious Who are you?
                        What is your ideology? What is it?
                      2. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 12 May 2023 12: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexbf109
                        Usually liberoids scold Putin for everything that is possible and impossible ....
                        With the guards, he is "not guilty of anything!" ...

                        At the same time, both liberal Westerners and pro_USSR_ovtsy in almost identical terms scold the modern Russian Federation, completely denying at least some positive, but to me

                        for power hurt
                      3. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 12: 55
                        0
                        and I'm "offended for the state"

                        That if they were "imperial", I would understand! But you are whining, because of the beginning of NWO ..... And you think, the Western world, is ideal!!! request
                      4. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 12 May 2023 13: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexbf109
                        .And you think the Western world is ideal!!!

                        Don't overcharge me. I don't think the Western world is ideal.
                        But I note that compared to the Russian Federation, it has a much larger pool of technologies, household incomes and municipalities are higher there.

                        whine, because of the beginning of SVO ..

                        Being a patriot and being an Imperial are not identical.
                        The imperials are ready to kill half of their own population, drive the second into barracks for bread rations - all for the sake of imperial greatness.

                        And on the contrary, I look at everything exclusively through a prism, but how it will improve / worsen the lives of citizens ... Here, the NWO has clearly not improved life, and tales about its inevitability - they only look convincing for the Imperials.
                      5. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 14: 02
                        +1
                        there are higher household incomes and the development of municipalities

                        Your problem is that in the "Western world", you see only a well-maintained part of it (Europe, USA, Australia), but ..... But are they not part of the "Western world", for example, the countries of Africa? Where, for example, do children manually mine cobalt for Tesla batteries?! Or gold with diamonds, for fashionistas?!
                        Or in your picture of the world, you again only have "Times Square", and the conditional "Harlem" and "Bronx" do not exist?!

                        The Imperials are ready to kill half their own population

                        No need to overdo it! Although, as T. Jefferson said

                        from time to time, the tree of freedom, you need to pour blood on both tyrants and patriots

                        Did the third president of the United States, did not understand what he was saying??? request

                        drive into barracks for bread rations

                        Well, it's clear! Again the "bloody tyrant Stalin" ....
                        Although not a single liberoid could tell me ... As a country that even a truck cannot make "(this was said in the 20s, Hitler), in which a year, a year later, hunger, like" the bloody tyrant Stalin ", built the industry that won the Second World War, giving an army of bullets, tanks, planes, more than the super-industrial Third Reich? HOW ?!
                        And how do people like you offer to do this in 10-15 years, in a different way ?! I will listen very carefully!
                        Or how would the Wehrmacht be met? Sabers and shell hunger?

                        Here, YOUR life obviously did not improve ...

                        And war is almost always a difficult thing! And yes, maintaining an army is expensive and hard. AND the army is needed in order to fight, isn't it?! Let's disband?!
                        By the way, any war is a litmus test for the peoples it wages! Weak people, the country loses and goes down in history. The strong get stronger!
                        So let's see what kind of people, country and "years of progressive development" (Do not remind me who told me this recently ?! wink
                      6. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 12 May 2023 14: 30
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                        Quote: Alexbf109
                        But are they not part of the "Western world", for example, the countries of Africa?

                        No. African countries freely trade their products, even with the West, even with China, even with the Russian Federation. Rusal bought bauxites in Guinea.

                        the army is needed in order to fight, right?

                        no.
                        The army is needed to protect his people from the aggression of the adversary.
                        At the same time, large-scale direct aggression (capture and retention of more/less large settlements or territories) against a nuclear-space power is excluded.
                        Accordingly, for a nuclear-space power to take the Stalinist period as a model is not relevant. (here's a thread for Iran - maybe there are reasons).

                        any war is a litmus test for the peoples it leads!

                        not any. foreign policy adventures (such as Vietnam) may end in a fiasco, but oh, you should not draw unambiguous conclusions from this.
                      7. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 14: 57
                        +1
                        No. African countries freely trade their products

                        You felt that you again got into a very unpleasant topic, for the "Westerner" laughing
                        Of course, they are "free and independent", and "themselves" trade! Only, it's amazing "themselves", but through transnational companies! Which, from the post-colonial era, have all the largest deposits and mines! because African countries simply have no resources, no money, no knowledge. In fact, Africa is the same colonies! (And do not give out, a screen, in the form of "free elections and black presidents", for a reality where large Western companies own everything, either directly or through the corrupt local elite. And if some "free and independent" decides, if he doesn't like it, he will immediately get a "people's liberation revolution"!And there is no alternative, because the USSR no longer exists, and China has not yet grown up to play on an equal footing here.
                        By the way, such a post-colonial system is successfully operating not only in Africa! so, about the "free", you are bent here! laughing

                        The army is needed in order to protect your people from the aggression of the adversary.

                        And all?! And here, you could not get around a very dangerous topic for the "Westerner"! wink
                        But what if the enemy is preparing and it is possible to deliver a preemptive strike on him?! Or is the enemy trying to change the friendly mode of your neighbor or ally to bang?!
                        We sit and wait, do not twitch. They don’t attack us directly ... Is that your logic?
                        I will give examples:
                        Invasion USA to Grenada, or Panama! (How could Grenada threaten the United States, which nuclear space power?? belay )
                        Invasion US to Iraq! (Well, how did Iraq threaten the American people? "The bombing of Los Angeles?! bully )
                        And about Israel's preemptive strike during the 1967 war. Would you like to read?
                        What will you answer? As always, "that's different"!?
                      8. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 12 May 2023 15: 19
                        0
                        Quote: Alexbf109
                        And there is no alternative, because. The USSR no longer exists, and China has not yet grown up to play on an equal footing here.

                        Once again, even Rusal was an alternative.
                        And China "plays" and often wins.
                        The structure of export/import by country shows diversity.

                        Example:

                        Top export destinations of commodities from the Congo in 2021:

                        China with a share of 45% (US $ 1,08 billion)
                        Ivory Coast with a share of 8,55% (202 million US$)
                        Togo with a share of 7,52% (177 million US$)
                        Cameroon with a share of 5,37% (127 million US$)
                        Gabon with a share of 3,98% (94 million US$)
                        India with a share of 3,13% (74 million US$)
                        UAE with a share of 3,12% (73 million US $)
                        Australia with a share of 2,91% (68 million US$)
                        Singapore with a share of 2,29% (54 million US$)
                        Angola with a share of 2,15% (50 million US$)

                        The largest trading partners for the import of goods to the Congo in 2021 were

                        China with a share of 19,5% (460 million US$)
                        France with a share of 12,4% (293 million US$)
                        Belgium with a share of 8,98% (211 million US$)
                        Russia with a share of 4,44% (104 million US $)
                        USA with a share of 4,15% (US $ 97 million)
                        Namibia with a share of 3,68% (86 million US$)
                        India with a share of 3,27% (77 million US$)
                        Brazil with a share of 3,24% (76 million US$)
                        UAE with a share of 2,84% (66 million US $)
                        Republic of the Congo with a share of 2,54% (59 million US$)
                      9. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 15: 58
                        +1
                        The structure of exports / imports by country shows a variety ...

                        And now please, just as confident, which companies are directly engaged in mining!? bully
                        Who sells the mined?!
                        What does the country of the Congo itself receive from this production, in the form of taxes, fees, etc.? (except penny labor, including payment for child labor)?
                        I understand that this is too long and complicated analysis, although, even on Wikipedia, there is something ... (far from always, these data can be understood at all, given that the final beneficiaries are hidden behind hundreds of offshore layers!).
                        But judging by the level of GDP at PPP (127th in the world), these riches (60% of the world's explored cobalt reserves) pass by the people of the Congo ....

                        On the issue of "democratic" intrusion, from the "good and bright elves" of the Western world, no more questions left? And why do they need an army there!? request
                      10. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 12 May 2023 16: 35
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                        Quote: Alexbf109
                        Which companies are directly engaged in mining!?

                        the article is not new, but not fundamentally:

                        The world's largest cobalt producer is Glencore of Switzerland, which mined 27 tons in the Congo last year. The remaining 400-30 tons of cobalt in the country is produced by independent miners, Chinese companies such as China Molybdenum and Zhejiang Huayou, and other small producers. Last year, China Molybdenum acquired the giant mine from US-based Freeport-McMoRan.

                        these riches (60% of the world's proven cobalt reserves) pass by the people of the Congo

                        Well, that's why you need to have your own mining companies and master (albeit purchased) mining technologies. The Russian Federation is not unsuccessfully striving for this, and you twist your face, they say they only sold us a shovel.

                        On the issue of the "democratic" invasion, from the "good and bright elves" of the Western world, no more questions left? And why do they need an army there!?

                        You brand the Western world almost word for word "international panorama" and the magazine "crocodile" 40 years ago. There is no desire to respond to your attacks on this West, for all their tendentiousness. In short - yes, the west is far from ideal.
                      11. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 15 May 2023 09: 51
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                        Well, that's why you need to have your own mining companies and master ....

                        That's it, you clearly understood that the people of the Congo do not get anything, and your stories about "trading themselves" are nonsense! Therefore, clearly, smoothly began to merge laughing

                        You brand the Western world almost word for word "international panorama" and the magazine "crocodile" 40 years ago

                        And what was wrong with them? Of course you have no desire, because you really have nothing to argue!
                        In your "pro-Western" NWO value system, this is a "criminal invasion"! And here invasion to Grenada, Panama, Iraq ... This is "defending the interests of democracy" belay
                        By the way, I’m even wondering if we imagine that China or anyone else will set up their military bases in Mexico, or the government will change to “pro-Chinese”, how will the United States react as a “beacon of justice, democracy and international law” ??? (Although you don’t have to go looking for examples. See above!)
                        Neo-colonialism, as it was, and remains! The desire of the West to exploit the resources, the people of the whole world (not only Africa), has not gone away, and will not go away! This is where NATO expansion, "globalization", etc. comes from.
                        The only thing that I don’t understand, dear “Western liberoid”, why are you advocating for this ?! Do you naively think that you will enter the ranks of "colonizers" ?? No, there will be "Western white people" and you will be in the labor force! At best, you will be hired as a "policeman"! You will be a faithful guard dog, "Western values" (More precisely, the system of robbing the country! But even here you will have to try, there will be too many such "smart" ones! bully )
                      12. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 15 May 2023 11: 57
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                        Quote: Alexbf109
                        the people of the Congo get nothing

                        The main thing that makes a colony a colony is precisely the nature of foreign trade.
                        Imports (at inflated prices) and exports (at underpriced) strictly through the metropolis.
                        Due to this, the metropolis has an income that justifies the maintenance of troops and administration.

                        In 1941, the United States forced Britain to sign the Atlantic Charter, the meaning of which is that all countries get access to trade with the colonies.

                        4. Free access of all countries, great or small, to world trade and raw materials necessary for the economic prosperity of states;

                        The United States had itself in the first place, but post-war Germany and Japan also took advantage of this.
                        This was the end of the colonial system. There was no point in maintaining troops and administration.

                        And that the local system of distributing funds for resources is far from ideal - these are the problems of local natives.

                        So then the USSR of the Stalin era - according to your signs - is a typical colony, it exported raw materials, and the people lived extremely modestly.
                      13. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 15 May 2023 12: 55
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                        The main thing that makes a colony a colony is precisely the nature of foreign trade

                        No no! What makes a colony a fact is who gets the bulk of the money from the sale of natural resources, and natural rent! If, the country (also the Congo) receives a penny from its wealth for the cheap labor of workers, and the bulk goes to the income of transnational companies and bribes to local bureaucrats. then congratulations! You are a colony! request

                        This was the end of the colonial system. There was no point in maintaining troops and administration.

                        What naivety! No, that's how it starts post-colonial system! Where in the country, there is a screen in the form of "own presidents" (puppets) and "free and democratic elections" (where there are no random people!). But in fact, the country does not have its own armed forces ("what for? There are Americans!") And in political and economic terms, it does not have its own foreign policy!

                        So then the USSR of the Stalin era - according to your signs - is a typical colony, it exported raw materials, and the people lived extremely modestly.

                        What a pitiful attempt to bite Stalin! Not a "Euro-liberoid", Stalin's funds were invested in hundreds of factories built in the USSR, in just a few five-year plans! And not in villas and yachts, in the West! (I can imagine the fate of a minister or director of a plant, under Stalin, who would buy a villa in Monaco ... hi )
                      14. Nelton Offline Nelton
                        Nelton (Oleg) 15 May 2023 14: 06
                        0
                        What makes a colony a fact is who gets the bulk of the money from the sale of natural resources, and natural rent!

                        Well, then the USSR was a colony for all of its 69 years.
                        And inside it - the RSFSR was a colony of the Ukrainian SSR.
                  2. Nelton Offline Nelton
                    Nelton (Oleg) 15 May 2023 12: 05
                    -1
                    Quote: Alexbf109
                    because you really have nothing to argue!

                    Because

                    the statement of an idiotic statement requires an order of magnitude less effort than its consistent and reasonable refutation.

                    When they throw mud at the Russian Federation, I am offended for the state, and I am still ready to waste time on consistent, well-founded denials.
                    And to refute nonsense about the USA / West - by God, there is not the slightest desire.
                  3. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                    Alexbf109 (Alexey) 15 May 2023 14: 25
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                    Because

                    Clearly, the comrade swam! laughing

                    And to refute nonsense about the USA / West

                    I wonder what you've been doing here all this time?! request
                    All your attempts to whitewash the Western colonial system, and even more miserable attempts to whitewash the long-term attempts of the authorities in Russia to integrate into this system, have crashed into simple facts! Which time has proven:
                    1. Russia in the "Western system" is destined for the fate of a purely "raw material appendage", with a minimum population to service production and pipes!
                    2. Ideally, for "Western globalists", this is the collapse and fragmentation of Russia! It will also be cheaper and easier to develop its natural resources.
                    3. Russia will never receive any important technologies from there, even if the president is a complete "Western liberal"! (Maximum technology "for the pipe" or already outdated and not needed)
                    4. In the event of the defeat of the NWO, not only the authorities and the nearest oligarchs will suffer!
                    By the way, "pro-Western oligarchs" also think in vain that they will be "forgiven" request No, they are considered "Russian thieves" in the West, therefore, in the best case, they will face total confiscation! Either all at once, or in parts ....
                    I don't feel sorry for them...But it will hurt the common people.! Turbulence will be such that until the Civil War!
                    But!
                    Every medal has two sides! The current circumstances make it possible for Russia to get away from the semi-colonial path on which it is located, the last decades! But to build a completely new country, with a new ideology, and with a new economic system! What would be at the forefront, it was not admiration for the West (East, South, etc.), and constant attempts to integrate somewhere, to someone ...And their own national interests!
                    The first and most important step here IDEOLOGY!
                  4. Nelton Offline Nelton
                    Nelton (Oleg) 15 May 2023 15: 26
                    -1
                    Quote: Alexbf109
                    Russia in the "Western system" is destined for the fate of a purely "raw material appendage", with a minimum population to service production and pipes!

                    By 2021, the Russian Federation has become a much smaller raw material appendage than the RSFSR was in 1990.

                    Russia will never receive any important technologies from there

                    98% of the world's industrial products are made using technologies that are sold to countries such as Turkey and Brazil (until 2022 and Russia).
                  5. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
                    Alexbf109 (Alexey) 15 May 2023 17: 22
                    0
                    By 2021, the Russian Federation has become a much smaller raw material appendage than the RSFSR was in 1990

                    Ahahah! What nonsense! You've already "flowed" .....
                    And let's in fact, just remember what technologies today's Russia uses ??? A?
                    - In the nuclear industry, this is the VVER reactor. Where is he from? From the USSR! What new has Russia come up with since the 90s? Nothing! Modernization of the same VVER.
                    - T-90, when was it created? In 1989. What is the main tank for the RF Armed Forces now? Modifications of the T-90 (and even more ancient T-72).
                    - How do we fly into space? Soyuz, Proton.
                    - What did people fly in the RSFSR before 1990? On TU aircraft .... And now?
                    And now, I ask you to tell me what has been created in Russia since the 90s, what would be competitive, and not in piece samples for exhibitions?
                    How many years, we hope and wait for "Armata", "Su-57", "Angara", MS-21, Superjet (with our finally PD engine), all "analogues" from exhibitions?!
                    But in fact, over the years of progressive development, it turned out that the army is not combat-ready! It is not provided with communications, copters, reconnaissance (either satellite or AWACS), precision-guided munitions, etc. From combat-ready units, only Wagner, and a few special forces! Sailed!

                    98% of the world's industrial products are made by technology

                    Where is this number from? Where is the source?
                    What did they consider? In tons or money? (It is understandable, a steel corner is heavier than a digital microscope, and in quantity, a corner is always needed more than microscopes laughing )
                    Yes, even if so, let's say! What is the value of such a "highly intelligent" production? No offense to the work of metallurgists, but in the production of a corner, such intellectual forces are not involved, and there is no need to spend years in "R&D" and research, as well as to have such a competent engineering and technical staff!
                    How they screamed in the 90s?! Hooray, we crashed the production of our Civil Aviation, and now we make pots and pans at these factories. Here it is the way to the country of the Papuans! , which lasted until 2014 ... And oops! And what do we have?? Convulsive movements have begun! And if with agriculture, at the very least, something happened ... Then complex and technological production, it’s not so easy to raise!
                    So don't talk any more about "progressive development". After 2014, and especially 2022, there was an awareness of the technological abyss the country is in! And if it weren’t for the NWO, they would have sailed along this stream, in the illusion of “beautiful reports and numbers”!
  • Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 14 May 2023 16: 09
    -1
    Where does Russia have a competitive advantage over the countries of Southeast Asia? In Russia, a simple product will always produce more expensive at cost. And no one will give up the most complex and most technologically advanced!
    So, in the "Global Economy" system, Russia has not been allocated an enviable place! Somewhere, like Canada, but an order of magnitude poorer (there is still a border to the United States, and some more or less important production can be moved there). And there are a lot of people in Russia, so much is not needed for production and maintenance on a watch! Three times less!
    So liberoids, do not expect happiness from "Globalism" ...... You are unlikely to be among the right ones. There will be competition "wow", and you are a priori losing to "programmers, coaches, creatives, etc." from the West."

    In Russia, where it is cold, Western firms produced more than a million cars, plus 350 were produced by AvtoVAZ with 75% foreign capital and its management. This is out of a million and a half total output. In Kaluga, a plant for 350 thousand engines was built. Mercedes was the last factory to build. The entire automotive industry after the CBO collapsed by 98%. Here you do not expect happiness from globalism, you will never be among the right ones. This is how Russia was not going to build Korea. The Gulf shipbuilding plant made ships from Korean blanks. While the bow was attached, you look further further. Not all at once. I’m giving you a confused figure, but in addition to emotions about the West that hates us, do you have something? And no one shares advanced technologies piping hot. But we had the opportunity to obtain technologies for the production of microcircuits at 28 nm, this is not 2-4 nm, but not 90 either. The equipment could be bought, but right now everything is confused, the train has left. At least Taiwan made microcircuits, but now that's it! So confusing....
    1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
      Alexbf109 (Alexey) 15 May 2023 10: 29
      0
      In Russia, where it is cold, Western firms produced more than a million cars, plus 350

      Oh, what just "giant numbers" laughing They gave the "Papuans" a screwdriver assembly of the simplest cars for the domestic market, as well as the production of ancient 1.6 MPI engines, cheers! What happiness!

      I am confused for you

      If I am a "zaputin", then you are a "Euro-Papuan", who either did not read what I write, or who has something wrong with his head! request

      But we had the opportunity to obtain technologies for the production of microcircuits at 28 nm, this is not 2-4 nm, but not 90 either.

      Dear "Euro-Papuan", you confirm in your own words that even if in Russia, a three-time pro-Western liberal is in power, no one will give modern technology to the "Papuans" anyway! recourse Only, what is 20-30 years old, and it's time for them to go to the museum!
      How I like your puppy joy, on the way to embedding Russia in "global world" , which is essentially was a way of turning into a colony with the Papuans!
    2. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 15 May 2023 11: 06
      0
      Quote from Pembo
      The entire automotive industry after the CBO collapsed by 98%.

      Firstly, not all, but only cars.
      secondly, not by 98%, but by 70%.
  • Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
    Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 16: 26
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    By the way, I have a question with you, as a representative of the "liberoid party"!
    Why do you want the "Western world" so much ???
    Can't you see that"Western world", turned into a psychopathic drug addict who destroys himself?!
    Do you care about the "Povestochka", LGBT, transgender people, "160 genders"?!
    Do you want your children to choose their gender at the age of 7, and they had a sex change operation, and you were deprived of parental rights, if you are against?! request (If I'm lying, and "Kiselev told me" this, then at least read the Western media! Fox News, I read every day).
    Do you want to kneel in front of BLM, a black Mermaid, or a transgender kolobok????? And what would your children be told at school?! belay
    1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
      hellman anton (hellman anton) 11 May 2023 16: 31
      0
      If everything is so bad in the USA and the EU, why do the children of Putin, Peskov, Lavrov and others live in the USA and Europe, if there is an agenda and LGBT? They live in a country that destroys itself,
      The question is rhetorical, as a turbo-patriot, everything will be God's dew for you.
      1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 16: 52
        +1
        Do you want a real answer? Or is this an attempt to divert the topic to another?!
        Come on, from my words, tell me WHAT I LIE?! Is this not there? Is this what I came up with? ("Kiselev told")
        Don't they teach kids this in school? Do not propagandize for children?!
        (Do not confuse the elite schools, for the rich, where are the children of Putin, Peskov, Lavrov, Biden, Trump, etc.)
        I feel, I clicked on a sore subject !!!
        Now there will be a squeal that "you are all lying", or "let's talk about something else!" or stupid silence stop
    2. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 17: 19
      -1
      Quote: Alexbf109
      Do you want to kneel in front of BLM, a black Mermaid, or a transgender kolobok????? And what would your children be told at school?!

      Comrade greatly exaggerates this negative aspect.
      At the time of the start of the SVO, contracts for the supply of Western equipment, components and products did not include

      only if the transgender plan is implemented.

      And while it was not listed, it was possible and necessary to take technology from the West.
      And if indeed the "Western world" has turned into a drug addict-psychopath who destroys himself, then it was possible not to rush anywhere with the NWO, but time worked for us?
      Equip cities and villages, gently invite those specialists who are tired of BLM-LGBT hysteria ...

      And so - let's say Singapore, an unambiguous member of the pool of Western countries, is still:

      Same-sex sexual activity between men is illegal, even if it is consensual and private, and the Attorney General of Singapore has stated that prosecutions under section 377A sometimes still occur, although some media sources say the law is not being enforced. properly. Same-sex relationships are not recognized by law, and same-sex couples adopting children is illegal. There is no anti-discrimination protection for LGBT people.

      (the birth rate is still one of the lowest in the world)
      1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
        Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 17: 34
        +2
        At the time of the start of SVO ...

        It's not at all clear what you're referring to? I'm asking about something completely different.

        Comrade greatly exaggerates this negative aspect.

        Seriously?! Those. Today I'm watching an interview on Fox News, where Charlize Theron, requires allow transgender propaganda in all schools, and then I read there how legislation is being passed where parents will be deprived of their rights if

        deny the child in the self-determination of gender ?!

        And then the news about transgender athletes?!
        And how do you like the news that new films introduce a mandatory quota for% transgenders and LGBT ?!
        And then I look on YouTube, a new commercial, with an LGBT black man, in the role of a fairy ... belay
        Ah, so ... All the rules in the West, right?laughing
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 17: 53
          -1
          Quote: Alexbf109
          At the time of the start of SVO ...

          It's not at all clear what you're referring to?

          Moreover, now it’s already deeply do not care what they have there.
          Direct contacts and supplies will be at a minimum for the foreseeable future.

          Theron demands to allow transgender propaganda in all schools

          AND? these are not our problems.

          The West produces high-quality equipment and technologies.
          The most solvent market.
          This is what (was) needed from him.

          The ancient cities are also beautiful, it is interesting to take a walk - but this is already an amateur.
          1. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
            Alexbf109 (Alexey) 11 May 2023 18: 01
            +1
            AND? it's not our problem

            How beautifully you can try to jump off an uncomfortable question! Right?! laughing
            You never answered!
          2. Nelton Offline Nelton
            Nelton (Oleg) 11 May 2023 19: 02
            -1
            Quote: Alexbf109
            You never answered!

            There were 2 questions:

            Why do you want the "Western world" so much ???
            Don't you see that the "Western world" has turned into a psychopathic drug addict who destroys himself?!

            1) I would like the Western world - I would have already gone there "at least as a carcass, even as a stuffed animal."
            This is clearly easier than trying to mix French with Nizhny Novgorod.
            But to take from everyone (including the West) the best that they have - this is the right policy.

            2) while to the Western world it is more developed technologically / economically, while the average household income is higher there, the arrangement of municipalities is better - I treat all its leaps "the rich have their own quirks."
            And yes, I do not call for monkeying all their quirks.
          3. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
            Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 09: 14
            +1
            But to take from everyone (including the West) the best that they have - this is the right policy

            Idealists are always like this, "everything is perfect" .... But, as an adult, I understand what "cultural exchange" is! How are you going to control it? It is possible, but it is impossible?! So in your dreams "Western democratic society"! What kind of "totalitarian habits"???
            Everyone, you should be the same

            free and inclusive society, with mandatory access for LGBT and trans people

            as it should be in a cultural Western society!
            Ps If you have a short memory, then even before the Crimea, wasn’t there a claim against Russia about “infringement on democracy and freedom of speech” (i.e. Western propaganda), “infringement on LGBT freedoms” (back in those days when it was even there, not so aggressively planted!), "imperial ambitions" (it was funny to hear from the most aggressive country in the world, the United States), and "rigged elections" (especially funny, after Bidon's election, "votes by mail").
            So, one could always come up with a reason for a sanction (and it was constantly invented)!
            No one, no complex and important technologies, would have given us! Cultural exchange, in fact, was reduced to the transfer of unnecessary and obsolete technologies .... and to the transfer of propaganda and culture of the Western world, which has also been planted in Russia for almost the past 30 years!
          4. Nelton Offline Nelton
            Nelton (Oleg) 12 May 2023 12: 03
            -1
            Quote: Alexbf109
            I, as an adult, understand what "cultural exchange" is! How are you going to control it?

            Yes way.
            Cultural exchange has been and will be,

            almost all the last 30 years!

            Yes, since the time of Rurik - we take Western culture.
            (Considering Byzantium is the same west).
            and under the USSR they sighed in the American way. And the "quirks of the rich" from time immemorial have been very attractive to the poor.
            As a counterbalance, perhaps Sharia is introduced.
            But at the legislative level, no one is forcing the introduction of quotas for LGBT people.

            a reason for a sanction, one could always think of

            You can think of.
            But sanctions are not beneficial for the Western bourgeoisie.
            Von Klaas, even now - formally, agricultural equipment does not fall under sanctions, and under this "formally" he defended his production in the Krasnodar Territory, including the supply of components from the EU.

            he would not have given us any complex and important technologies!

            Well, yes. We were not supplied with lithographic equipment.
            But you might think that we have the entire pool of technologies in the middle segment.
            We have a pancake, automatic transmission and gears for them could not do. And they can't.
            Under SPIC-2, some companies agreed to the full localization of automatic transmissions. did not have time...
            From what we have managed - let's say GE MS5002E gas turbines have completely transferred the technology, and now it is actively produced in the Russian Federation as a GTU T32.
            It is used as part of the Ladoga GPU, as part of the compressor stations of the Power of Siberia main gas pipeline and the sixth process line of the Amur GPP. Isn't this important technology? Or not difficult?
            And there are enough such examples, before the NWO, such mid-level technologies and equipment were sold to us.
          5. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
            Alexbf109 (Alexey) 12 May 2023 12: 41
            +1
            (considering Byzantium is the same as the West).

            What????? belay Well, you are extremely mistaken!

            and under the USSR they sighed in the American way

            We dreamed because, just like you now, you take the position of a small child! "I see the good, I close my eyes and don't see the bad." I see a beautiful picture, exaggerated GDP, but what:
            -Almost 40% of the US population do not have even hundreds of dollars in savings!
            -Millions cannot afford medical insurance.
            -Millions in the richest and "happiest" country in the world are starving and cannot afford proper food!
            -A huge number of homeless people on the central streets of the largest US cities.
            -The rise in crime in many cities and states.
            - Whole districts, "ghettos"! (And this is not Brazil)
            I can still list it further! It's all too "fads of the rich"?? (Or has Putin taken over Fox News?) Or maybe you, gentlemen, liberals, pay attention not only to the advantages of living in the USA, but to the whole picture as a whole!

            But sanctions are not beneficial for the Western bourgeoisie.

            If you do not understand, the European bourgeois merchants do not decide anything! Completely different forces rule there, with different interests!
            What the "Globalists" from the USA say, it will happen (just the same, now is a great time to pull production out of Europe. What the USA is doing! And if that's something, the USA needs Russia from Russia, like titanium, etc. Under sanctions and not hit belay laughing )

            Well, yes. We were not supplied with lithographic equipment.

            And nothing else serious! And they won't. Never! Even if in power in Russia, there will be the most ardent liberoid! Or did you not get it? request
            They will give only some far from modern technologies, such as automatic transmission (it's cool to pass it off as "innovation", in an era when classic automatic transmissions practically disappeared from new cars!)
            Or technology (and not the latest) to simply download natural resources from the country! Hooray! Probably worth being proud of the fact that the "Papuans" were given a better "shovel" so that they would better dig in their land! (From your own words: gas turbines, compressor stations of the main gas pipeline ...)
            Everything as you wanted, liberals .... "beads for resources"!
  • duvacello Offline duvacello
    duvacello (dude from the hillock) 12 May 2023 23: 18
    -1
    Sorry, but you are talking nonsense! Liberalism is a priori sinless and cannot bear values ​​alien to people and for evil! laughing
  • duvacello Offline duvacello
    duvacello (dude from the hillock) 12 May 2023 23: 16
    -1
    Have you read / listened to Girkin-Strelkov? He's a leper and a scumbag! He's been saying this for over a year now.
  • vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 11 May 2023 11: 45
    -4
    Rogozin needs to star, otherwise they will forget. Hucksters from power do not need peace. The war in Ukraine can be stopped quickly. To do this, the authorities of the Russian Federation need to issue a Law of the Russian Federation in which it is prescribed that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. The second year of the real war is going on, living people are dying, and the Kremlin still does not play enough of a computer game.
    1. Siberia55 Offline Siberia55
      Siberia55 (Yuri) 11 May 2023 12: 58
      +1
      Naive wink
      Well, it's written. Announced. And what? NATO Expeditionary Forces will leave the territory of Ukraine? laughing
  • Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 11 May 2023 15: 09
    -1
    Mobilization can and will make it possible to avoid new difficult decisions, but it will no longer affect the overall course of the company, in the future only freezing and endless negotiations with endless provocations on the LBS.
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  • Train Offline Train
    Train (Denis) 11 May 2023 23: 43
    +1
    Call yours and we'll see! Under-cosmonaut!
  • Alexfly Offline Alexfly
    Alexfly (Alexander) 12 May 2023 11: 56
    +1
    The lack of a sufficient number of reservists is a consequence of this situation ... It’s not like biathlon to cut through tanks ... In the Russian Federation there should be a mob structure similar to the Israeli Army, but our generals are still feeding from the lessons of the Second World War ...
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  • KLNM Offline KLNM
    KLNM (KLNM) 12 May 2023 18: 38
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    Of course, additional mobilization is needed, since we have been marking time for a whole year, but there is no need to yell about it and scare the children. Why put all the cards on the table to the enemy ... It's high time to recruit and train properly in a calm mode ...
  • Materialist Offline Materialist
    Materialist (Michael) 12 May 2023 21: 08
    0
    where is our reconnaissance satellite constellation?
  • duvacello Offline duvacello
    duvacello (dude from the hillock) 12 May 2023 23: 03
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    Rogozin speaks correctly, although belatedly. But better late than never. So some Russians come to an epiphany
  • Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 14 May 2023 18: 10
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    Quote: Alexbf109
    -Almost 40% of the US population do not have even hundreds of dollars in savings!
    -Millions cannot afford medical insurance.
    -Millions in the richest and "happiest" country in the world are starving and cannot afford proper food!
    -A huge number of homeless people on the main streets of the largest US cities

    About the fact that 40% does not even have a hundred dollars in savings. This is true, but what is the truth! Americans live on credit. They take a million from the bank, buy a house in the suburbs, a car. And from the salary they pay the loan and they still have clothes left for food, to go to the sea. And yes, there are no savings, 10-20 thousand for pocket expenses, and so they are in debt for life, like silk, this is definitely no savings.
    I will not say anything about how they are starving in the USA.
    But about the homeless on the central streets of New York. The United States is a free country and there a cop (cop in our opinion) does not have the right to drive a person off the street, even though he is a homeless person and looks ugly, if he does not violate the order. And we have homeless people hiding in dumps and nooks and crannies. For they will quickly tie them up with us. True, the day before yesterday I saw a man sleeping on a bench on Mira Avenue near the Prospekt Mira metro station, which is practically the center of Moscow. So our freedom is not so bad.
    Well, to the heap about sex change in children. Not everything is clear here. I often see a saleswoman who has stubble growing on her face and looks more like a peasant. If at one time she had been remade into a man, perhaps she would have lived a happier life, and perhaps the sooner this would have happened, i.e. in childhood, the better for her it would be. I read a story where a surgeon faces a problem in front of him, a hermaphrodite child, a psychologist says the child is not developed, offers not to do the operation. The surgeon communicates with the child, sees that he is quite intelligent, and decides to operate. The question of who to do decides simply - a man, it is easier for them to live. What if he was wrong? The earlier such operations are done, the better, in principle, if you guessed right with the floor. The later the operation is done, the less chance of making a mistake with the sex, and the person himself takes the choice. So with sex change operations, not everything is so simple. We had the Ministry of Health concluded agreements with WHO on a simplified procedure for changing sex. They just concluded, at the parliamentary assembly in St. Petersburg it was all wrapped up, and after all, it was about adults who made a conscious decision. So rejoice zaputinets, there is nothing to change the floors as they are, let them creak.