The logic of total war requires Ukraine to switch to ground operations in Russia

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The statement by German Defense Minister Pistorius that the Armed Forces of Ukraine now have the right to attack the Russian regions bordering Ukraine provoked an angry reaction in Moscow and in Russian society. However, there is nothing particularly surprising here: not seeing any intelligible and tough response to the crossing of the “red lines”, the enemy constantly becomes impudent and raises the stakes in the game. Why should you be mentally prepared?

"Donbasization"


After reading the statements, publications and comments about the possibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine moving from artillery shelling and air attacks to a large-scale ground operation in the Russian border area, the author of the lines got the strong impression that everyone categorically condemns such a possibility, but no one takes it seriously . They say, what's the point of Kyiv to send its troops to some Kursk or Belgorod, if it is faced with the task of recapturing the Donbass, the Sea of ​​Azov and the Crimea? Let them just twitch, and we will slam them with nuclear weapons (nuclear weapons). The problem with all such reasoning lies in inertia, stereotyped thinking and narrow-mindedness, which make it difficult to appreciate the whole picture. However, we do not suffer from this, and therefore we propose to look at everything that happens around the NWO from a slightly different angle.



So, what is the main complaint about how the special operation is carried out in Ukraine?

The fact that it does not have clearly and unambiguously set goals and objectives, and those that are voiced can, if desired, be interpreted very broadly and freely. Defeating the Armed Forces of Ukraine and changing the regime in Kiev to a pro-Russian one has not been set as a task, and without this it is simply physically impossible to demilitarize Ukraine, or denazify it, or ensure the security of Donbass and its inhabitants. Even worse, the decision to withdraw the RF Armed Forces from Chernihiv. The Sumy and Kharkiv regions led to the fact that the Belgorod, Kursk and Bryansk regions bordering with the Independent have now turned into the "Greater Donbass". Their territory is constantly shelled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, enemy DRGs enter our territory, sabotage, and kill our compatriots.

It is impossible to ensure the protection of Donbass, the Sea of ​​Azov, Crimea and the “old” Russian regions without the military defeat of the Ukrainian army and forcing Kiev to complete and unconditional surrender, followed by the disarmament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the holding of a tribunal over Nazi criminals. Unfortunately, such a task, if it exists somewhere in a secret folder in Shoigu's desk, is not known to us, nor to the inhabitants of the "old" and "new" regions of Russia, nor to the military personnel and volunteers who are in the dirty trenches on the front line. .

And now let's see what is there with the goal-setting of our enemy.

"Ukrainization"?


What are the ambitions of the Kyiv regime, overt and covert, can be judged from the statement of the young and daring head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Kirill Budanov, who was arrested in absentia by a Russian court for terrorism the day before:

We must create conditions for a security zone around our border. How to achieve this - there are many options. Its width may be 100 kilometers, but even 40 kilometers will be more or less normal. So that you understand my logic correctly. Should we go further - the question is not for me, and creating a security zone around the border is a must. There are many options for how to achieve this goal.

That is, the minimum program for Kyiv is an exit to the borders of 1991 and the creation of a "security zone" with a width of 40 to 100 kilometers at the expense of the territory of the Russian Federation. But the option of some advancement is also not ruled out, which will be decided by people at a level higher than the terrorist Budanov. By the way, “completely by accident” a map of Russia, generously divided among its neighbors, was recently caught in the lens of the video camera of journalists in the office of the chief Ukrainian intelligence officer.

Let's continue this logical chain. To divide the Russian Federation, it must first be defeated militarily. It is believed that no one will dare to attack the second most powerful nuclear power. However, for the second year already, the Ukrainian army, actively supported by the NATO bloc, has been fighting against the RF Armed Forces, and not without success. At the same time, the Kremlin itself banned the use of nuclear weapons against Nezalezhnaya, because we are opposed by a fooled fraternal people. Therefore, nuclear weapons, tactical nuclear weapons and strategic nuclear weapons are deliberately taken out of the brackets, which ties the hands of the Russian army. It turns out that we are waging a limited war within the framework of the NMD, and Ukraine is waging a total war, with the goal of military defeat of Russia. "Red lines" are crossed one after another, the stakes are growing continuously.

Will the hypothetical exit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the borders as of 1991 be a defeat for our country? Yes, undoubtedly, it will be a severe military and image defeat, which could lead to the strongest internal political upheavals. Does this mean that the “Western partners” will limit themselves to knocking out the RF Armed Forces from the territory of Nezalezhnaya? Is not a fact.

Recall that the Ukrainian Nazis have territorial claims to our country, claiming part of the Belgorod and Voronezh regions, as well as the Rostov region and the Kuban. The Belarusian brothers should have strained themselves, since their appetites extend to Polesie as well. Moreover, these conversations are by no means conducted in the kitchen, but in high government offices. The Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Volodymyr Omelyan, in an interview with the RBC-Ukraine portal, stated verbatim the following:

I think that we will restore air communication with Russia only after the return of Crimea, eastern Ukraine and, I hope, Kuban and other Ukrainian territories that were seized by Russia at one time.

We return to the question of the possibility of an offensive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the border "old" Russian regions. Who said that it would be just a raid, if, of course, there will be one?

There are already puppet Kyiv "Russian nationalists" as part of the DRG entered the Bryansk region and hung out their flags. Why, for example, can’t a distracting strike be delivered by a mechanized column on Kursk, which creates a threat to Moscow, and the whole army corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not go from the Kharkov region to the Belgorod region in order to cut the communications of the Russian Armed Forces grouping in the Donbass and hit it in the rear? First, according to last year's "spread fingers" scheme through the "notch line", and then with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers under the cover of air defense? Will the scenario of the September “regrouping” be repeated after this, only in an even worse version, with the collapse of the front line in the north? And what if the enemy begins to hang out Ukrainian flags in the captured settlements of the Belgorod and Kursk regions and defiantly place their occupation administrations there?

If we assume that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin to actively operate with large forces in the Russian border area, and this is exactly what German Defense Minister Pistorius allowed them yesterday, it can turn out very badly. The need to respond to such a daring and large-scale attack will force the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces to withdraw personnel units from the front, transferring them to the north. In the worst case scenario for us, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to hit the Sea of ​​\u14b\uXNUMXbAzov with much fewer losses, and from there, if they succeed, the road to Taganrog, Rostov-on-Don, Kuban will open ... It sounds wild, incredible, but so much has already happened since the beginning of the NWO XNUMX months?

The problem lies precisely in the fact that we think inertia and act within the framework of certain imposed stereotypes, while the cruel and implacable enemy represented by the Ukrainian Nazis and the “Western partners” behind him wants to achieve a decisive military victory over Russia, its humiliation and overthrow of the ruling regime. They have no reason to stop halfway. The format of total war implies the inevitable transition to ground offensive operations on the entire Russian territory accessible to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It can happen tomorrow, maybe in six months, maybe in a year or a year and a half. That is why a serious revision of the approaches to the conduct of the JEE, specification of its goals and objectives is required.
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  1. -1
    April 22 2023 18: 24
    such logic.
    Ukraine itself can and will be enough to return the borders of 1991, join NATO and the EU.
    And what will it give Europe? nothing, she needs to profit from this conflict.
    Therefore, if the APU can oust Russian troops from the Donbass, Europe and Japan will immediately join the war.
    Regarding nuclear weapons, the United States apparently argues like this. The number of strategic nuclear weapons in Russia is simply not enough for tangible damage to all allied countries. And therefore, Russia, after their use in response, will be physically destroyed by conventional weapons. Those. believe that Russia would rather surrender and somehow exist than use nuclear weapons.
    but this is a view from the sofa, and what are the possibilities in reality ...
    1. +1
      April 22 2023 18: 31
      Quote from Constantin N.
      And what will it give Europe?

      The US is in charge there.
      And this will give the United States a strong strengthening of the image of "the main defender of the international order."
      Actually this is the only thing they are fighting for there.
  2. +2
    April 22 2023 19: 14
    Well, the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Belgorod gives something, since it is only 35 km from the border. There is no need for too much strength. Yes, and cutting off the Luhansk group from the Russian Federation is possible, unless of course they strike unexpectedly. We may not have decent rapid reaction forces to parry these blows. The Airborne Forces are fighting at the front. So, it was already near Kharkov-Kupyansk. There was nothing to close the holes. As for Kursk-Bryansk, these cities are far from the border and forces for this will need to be many times larger, since the flanks will be stretched. Unlikely. On the other hand, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are afraid of an attack by the RF Armed Forces from Belgorod to Kupyansk-Izyum, which could well be done. This could lead to the encirclement of the large Eastern Luhansk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. +1
      April 22 2023 20: 31
      Quote: Alexey Lan
      As for Kursk-Bryansk, these cities are far from the border and forces for this will need to be many times larger, since the flanks will be stretched. unlikely

      Do you think multiple forces are needed for what? For traditional warfare? Who told you that it would be so?
      The trouble is that they, within the framework of the terrorist war, will take as many hostages as possible, with all the ensuing consequences, for the image of the Russian government. The West will "forgive and justify" them. And then we will be faced with a choice, either we liberate our territories, at the cost of lives, a bunch of hostages, or we change (everything for everything), with a bunch of indemnities, "Wishlist" of the Ukrainians and the West.
      This may turn out not to be the delusion of the inflamed brain of a schizophrenic, but a terrible reality. How to prevent it? To do this, as a matter of urgency, to transfer to the main areas, units with conscripts. The main purpose of the Russian army is to protect the sovereign territory of Russia. No one proposes to send conscripts to Ukraine, but to defend one's own is a sacred right. The presence of troops will not leave a chance of conducting a "blitzkrieg, a la Nord-Ost 2", this will force the Americans to change their Wishlist, and simply nullify the chances of any "counter-offensive". At the same time, the directions of the NWO will not be exposed.
      1. -1
        April 22 2023 20: 39
        Quote: skeptic
        How to prevent this?

        25 km zone to resettle
        Mine and plow up and down.
        In the 100 km zone - prepare for all-round defense n / a and road junctions.
      2. 0
        April 22 2023 23: 10
        Well, there are some units in Kursk and Bryansk. I went to Chernobyl through the nuclear power plant in 87 through the barracks of a tank regiment. According to the events with the downed Boeing in 2014, it is known that there is also an air defense regiment in Kursk. I don't know what is there now. As for the hostages, if they are taken, then TNW should be threatened.
  3. +1
    April 22 2023 19: 21
    Of course, it’s stupid to think that the Anglo-Saxons behind the back of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will push them to the fortified positions of the Russian Federation just to kill themselves? Where is the logic then? their US bases on their territory, at least punch the hegemon himself in the face. The African continent is shaking off the colonialists, Brazil is pursuing its policy in the underbelly of the United States, China, Iran are big problems, plus Saudi Arabia has left the influence of the Anglo-Saxons. And after all this they will send Ukraine stupid for slaughter? Personally, I don’t believe in this and I think that they will prepare a “surprise” for us, and even if it fails, nothing will end, although its phase will become not hot and not active after the failure, but the West will not quickly merge Ukraine. They are driven into a corner and they can go to aggravate the conflict, and here it is important to calculate their moves, and they have a vast field for maneuver.
    1. +2
      April 22 2023 20: 49
      Quote: Valera75
      Where is the logic then? They already disgraced themselves in Afghanistan, in Syria their ISIS project slammed,

      The logic is precisely in what they thought of doing in Ukraine. The destruction of Russia is the eternal dream of the West, and for the sake of this, Afghanistan was postponed. A suitable scam loomed. Moreover, Russia got into the interests of the United States, in Syria. And showed that "not so strong." And the project of the US hybrid troops did not slam shut. It's just that they are prepared, a different application.
      1. -2
        April 22 2023 20: 55
        Quote: skeptic
        The destruction of Russia is the eternal dream of the West

        Don't attribute irrational malice to the West. Especially "collective".
  4. +4
    April 22 2023 19: 36
    The longer we dig, the stronger will be the temptation of the opposing side. They will strike somewhere in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbnon-combat operations, they will not achieve much, but the effect will be huge. what
  5. +6
    April 22 2023 19: 37
    Sergey, you are 100500% right, everything will be as you described, because as the events of this year have shown, we are confronted by very smart people, and by the way, one figure from the Nazi Rada said that the counterattack would be a big and unexpected surprise for Russia. And if the Kremlin and the General Staff are not preparing for such events, then this is a crime
  6. +8
    April 22 2023 19: 43
    Quote: Valera75
    It is stupid of course to assume that the Anglo-Saxons behind the back of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will push them to the fortified positions of the Russian Federation just to kill themselves

    You are too optimistic and trusting. Xoxly are very strongly motivated and angry, they present this war as a liberation war, and they have formed our image approximately like a kind of "Tatar-Mongol". Our fighters’ motivation is blurred, the country’s political leadership has not announced clear goals, and has not presented clear and specific desired results of hostilities. I recently talked with a friend who recently served a contract there (he was recruited last fall for six months), so he says, he did not want to renew because he does not know the ultimate goal. He says they would say clearly and specifically: they should take Kyiv, or Lvov there, or at least Warsaw, and everything will end, we will win - we would serve and fight further. And there are more and more such sentiments at the front. But xoxls clearly know what victory is for them and where they need to go and where to stop. Therefore, there is no doubt: there will be strikes on Belgorod, and on the Crimea, there will also be terrorist attacks in Russian cities ...
  7. 0
    April 22 2023 20: 10
    At the same time, the Kremlin itself banned the use of nuclear weapons against Nezalezhnaya, because we are opposed by a fooled fraternal people.

    You don't have to deceive yourself. Just now, this winter, they tried to freeze the "fraternal people" so that they begin to die and force Kyiv to surrender. The authorities spoke about this a little less frankly and spoke much more frankly on TV.
    Nuclear weapons are not used for one reason, for the same reason that Zelensky has not yet been killed - in this case, Putin personally would become the target, and he is a very practical man in matters of his own security.
    1. 0
      April 22 2023 23: 19
      A bad Ukrainian president, and I think Zelya is like that, is beneficial to Russia. If a reasonable Nazi becomes in power, it will only get worse
    2. -1
      April 23 2023 12: 34
      Discussion of the use of nuclear weapons on their territory, albeit temporarily occupied, is the lot of the limited. Are you one of those? I hope no.
  8. 0
    April 23 2023 09: 27
    What is hypocritical to be surprised?

    The conflict continues, grows, and if zombies were previously hammered into their heads - installations: these bridges can be bombed, you can’t bomb them, you can and should sell diesel fuel to NATO, but you can’t directly APU, you can bomb Kiev, but you can’t bomb another, ordinary Ukrainians in uniform you can kill, but their financiers-oligarchs - you can’t ...

    Now why be surprised that the logic of non-war does not coincide with PR: we can, they can’t.

    Moreover, the media are directly promoting that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are grinding, new weapons are being supplied, what kind of "will come from the Kharkov region to the Belgorod region" ???

    Here they either lie there or there .. the result is still the same: they lie.
  9. +1
    April 23 2023 09: 29
    The problem lies precisely in the fact that we think inertia and act within the framework of certain imposed stereotypes, while the cruel and implacable enemy represented by the Ukrainian Nazis and the “Western partners” behind him wants to achieve a decisive military victory over Russia, its humiliation and overthrow of the ruling regime. They have no reason to stop halfway. The format of total war implies the inevitable transition to ground offensive operations on the entire Russian territory accessible to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It can happen tomorrow, maybe in six months, maybe in a year or a year and a half.

    It is logical, although this is the maximum task for them! It seems that there are two more options acceptable for Ukraine: the minimum task is to reach the borders of 2014 without Crimea, and the middle option is the borders of 1991.

    That is why a serious revision of the approaches to the conduct of the JEE, specification of its goals and objectives is required.

    With this, apparently, there are great difficulties, precisely in view of the system that has developed in our country ...
  10. +2
    April 23 2023 12: 26
    Yes, sir, I have long been surprised by the unwillingness to take full advantage of such a gift. There was no other "agreement". Well, now, as they say, God himself ordered to use it.
    I believe many have noticed that a small number of topics on NMD are being discussed, and some taboos are imposed on interesting ones, from the point of view of thinking - the issues of landing, distracting strikes, outside help, the use of nuclear weapons, etc. are not considered. , not new, one of them. It remains to hope for the adequacy of at least someone in the ruling elite, that this moment is also taken into account.
    Considering this question, I would give at least 50% probability of its implementation. It is unnecessary to give justifications, they have been expressed thousands of times during the SVO, in each of them there is a grain of the possible, even in this article. But the consequences of this "attack" will come back to haunt the Russian Federation for a long time.
  11. +1
    April 24 2023 08: 27
    Reading between the lines, one gets the impression that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the ukroraykh in general think and act more flexibly, proactively and boldly than the structures of the Russian Federation. And it doesn’t matter who the author is here: either the crests themselves, or the West, it brings results. If even nuclear weapons are not enough for all the enemies, and no progress is foreseen towards victory over ukronato, then the seams are gone.
  12. 0
    April 27 2023 19: 31
    No one has declared war, but it is on, and the fact that crests do not wet our territory is only a moment in time. The fact that we are sitting exactly without stepping on the Sumy and Kharkov speaks of some of our "locality of the war." What we want - we don’t know what we can - we don’t do it - such a "war"