"Battle of Kursk - 2": Armed Forces of Ukraine received permission to attack in the Russian border area

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Since the autumn of 2022, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine were able to recapture almost the entire territory of the Kharkiv region from Russia, and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation themselves left the right-bank part of the Kherson region without a fight, all military experts, analysts and other predictors are only wondering where the further counter-offensive of the Ukrainian army will take place. The whole future of the special operation, and in a broad sense, of our country, will largely depend on where the next blow will be delivered and how it will be met.

Three to one


The relevance and significance of this issue forced us to try predict, where the spring offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can take place. In the analysis, they tried to take into account such factors as the significance of the goals from a strategic point of view, the corridor of what is permitted, within which the Ukrainian General Staff will operate, as well as the ratio of the expected losses of both sides to the expected result. Based on these guidelines, we divided the possible directions of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into three - obvious, incredible and rational.



The most obvious and desirable for the Kiev regime, of course, is access to the coast of the Sea of ​​​​Azov with the capture of Berdyansk and Melitopol, cutting the land corridor to Crimea, destroying the Crimean bridge and turning the peninsula into an “island”, followed by forcing the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces to another “difficult decision” . Rather unbelievable was the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the so-called old Russian regions - the border Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions. The most rational thing seemed to be precisely a pinpoint “hit with a chisel” on Artemivsk with the aim of deblocking it, destroying the most combat-ready units of the Wagner PMC and resetting all the rather modest results of the SVO in the Donbas over the past six months. However, now in this scenario, a new introductory one has appeared, which somewhat changes the overall picture.

In fact, there have been very serious, simply fundamental changes.

"Battle of Kursk"?


Everyone who closely follows the development of the NMD remembers how quickly the "Western partners" went from non-lethal assistance to the Kyiv regime to the supply of modern tanks, MLRS, self-propelled guns and air defense systems. We talked in detail about the algorithm used to legalize the supply of increasingly heavy offensive weapons to Ukraine in article dated February 7, 2023.

Briefly, the scheme is as follows. First, the “Western partners” say that NATO tanks will never end up in Ukraine. Then some Eastern European limitroph declares that without these tanks, Kyiv will not be able to repel "Putin's aggression." At the third stage, one of the Western Europeans says that the NATO tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still needed. politicians or functionaries. Then one of the local elites speaks out against it as the "voice of reason". At the fifth stage, the “Western partners” come to some kind of consensual decision that the tanks still need to be delivered to Nezalezhnaya, but not enough later. The finale in this tragicomedy is the obvious fact that the fundamental decision to supply modern armored vehicles of the NATO model was made a year ago, immediately after the first "de-escalation" near Kiev, when the RF Armed Forces, unfortunately, demonstrated the impossibility of quickly achieving the stated goals and objectives of the NWO purely military means, and President Putin relied on negotiations.

Why do we remember all this?

Yes, because when predicting the possible direction of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we proceeded from the fact that a serious attack of the "old" Russian regions "in Basayev's way" is extremely unrealistic, so that the Kiev partners do not expose themselves to the whole world not as an "innocent victim of Putin's aggression", but as outright terrorists , which they are. However, now the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received permission for a land offensive in the border regions of the Russian Federation from their Western curators and accomplices.

Yes, from the very beginning of the NMD, the NATO bloc, especially its European members, tried in every possible way to distance itself from the war. The most cocky in this respect were the British, who since the summer of 2022 from their island called on Kyiv to strike at the internationally recognized Russian territory. Over the past almost 24 months of special operations since February 14, the “Western partners” have reached the point of legalizing not only artillery and air, but also ground offensive operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against our country. So, on April 14, 2023, in an interview for NBC News, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that Ukraine has every right to strike at the territory of the Russian Federation.

Today, April 21, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius allowed Kyiv ground operations:

It is absolutely normal that in such military clashes, the attacked side advances into enemy territory in order, for example, to cut off supply lines ...
As long as cities, civilians, civilian territories are not attacked, we will definitely have to come to terms with this. Reluctantly, but it must be so, for example, to cut off supply lines.

It should be noted that Germany does not recognize Crimea, Donbass, or the Sea of ​​Azov as Russian territories, so we can talk about the “old” regions bordering Ukraine. In general, a fundamental permission to attack the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been issued, further discussion can only be about what forces, for what specific purposes and how far the Ukrainian army can try to go. That is why serious adjustments should be made to the forecasts.

In particular, now the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Belgorod or Kursk with the creation of a hypothetical threat of a further breakthrough of mechanized units in the Moscow region. It is clear that there is no question of any capture of the Russian capital, but the commotion will be simply colossal, which will force part of the troops to be removed from prepared positions to repel such a “dagger” strike. Having forced the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to divert to this secondary direction for itself, the Ukrainian army can throw two well-trained and armed army corps either to Artemovsk or to the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov.
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  1. -15
    April 21 2023 16: 49
    It is clear that there is no talk of any capture of the Russian capital

    Well, why, in principle, you can imagine.
    Kadyrov, for example, if he is impatient, will easily put his fighters on buses and cars and send the convoy to Moscow for disassembly. With anyone, even with Putin. Who in the country would dare to stop this column - the cops, the National Guard? Parts of conscripts?
    And if over this column there are not Ichkerian flags, but yellow-blue ones - what difference does this make?
    1. -1
      April 22 2023 05: 43
      Kadyrov will not be up to it. Although, you are right that, apart from traffic cops and firefighters, no obstacles are expected in this direction. There are no mechanized units covering the capital for a long time. All under Bakhmut.
      1. +1
        April 22 2023 18: 25
        Have you checked? And then it gets kind of scary.
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    3. -1
      April 22 2023 18: 48
      The mihanized units are not all under Bakhmut. 1.
      2) there is no need for a tank regiment to stop the convoy of "yellow-black" ones. 10 "Alegators *and" hello to parents.
  2. +10
    April 21 2023 16: 58
    What is hypocritical to be surprised?
    They say you can hit here on bridges, but you can’t hit on bridges here, this is "the wrong territory."

    There were so many surprised comments and notes. But the farther, the more violent the conflict, more people die, and everyone refuses "SVO in kid gloves".
    How WW1 ended the Velvet Glove Wars

    Well, promises ... they are promises everywhere.
    "2000 Armat", "Moon by 2015", "We will not deliver", "we will not mobilize", "there will be no visa-free regime", "Europe will freeze"
    Alas, it is a matter of partnership and everyday life.
    1. -1
      April 22 2023 20: 42
      We have such a bad trait to gloat, they are punished for it. In any case, without cheap energy sources, the economy will sag over time. Let's all live modestly...
  3. +3
    April 21 2023 17: 46
    Does it make sense to attack the border regions of the Russian Federation in order to reach the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug and Vladivostok in the future?
    It makes sense to attack in a southerly direction in order to reach the Sea of ​​Azov, divide the southern group and break it up in parts, and then conclude a truce to maintain what has been achieved and start negotiations on an equal footing with the support of NATO
    1. -1
      April 22 2023 20: 45
      All because of the Crimea. They want to return it, for this tension in the eastern regions, in order to exhaust us.
  4. +9
    April 21 2023 18: 06
    It would seem that a dagger attack on "old" Russia does not make sense in the conditions of Russian dominance in its airspace, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine can take hostage a fairly large settlement and neutralize air superiority in such a Basayev way
    1. +10
      April 21 2023 18: 35
      Quote: Colonel Kudasov
      take hostage a fairly large settlement

      That is why it has long been necessary to completely resettle the entire 25 km border strip, and turn it into a continuous minefield.
      1. 0
        April 21 2023 19: 28
        25 km is 20 minutes on the highway. To resettle at least 100 km, and along the entire border with NATO, and the settlements should be liquidated. So NATO saboteurs from drones will be easy to track and destroy. It is not clear what to do with Vyborg and Pskov, they are closer than 100 km. It can be turned into fortified areas.
        A solid minefield in this zone sounds reasonable.
        1. +2
          April 22 2023 18: 50
          "sounds reasonable" or rather crazy
      2. 0
        April 22 2023 18: 59
        "Resettlement" sounds nice in theory, but in practice?
        Building new cities and villages is not possible in a month. Remains in an open field in tents? And enterprises to transfer? Even the 60th Politburo would not agree to such
        1. +3
          April 22 2023 19: 14
          Quote: Vlad Burchilo
          "Resettlement" sounds nice in theory, but in practice?

          But in practice, when it really smelled of fried food, 8 million Ukrainians took off from their seats with one suitcase and rushed to the west, and more or less all were placed.
          2.8 million - in the Russian Federation.
          1. 0
            April 22 2023 22: 36
            In Europe, there is enough hotel fund for this number of immigrants. In Russia there is no
            1. +1
              April 25 2023 18: 28
              Quote from uRRY
              hotel fund for this number of migrants. In Russia there is no

              As practice shows, Russia is quite capable of civil projects.
              Construction capacity in the country for 100+ million m2 of housing per year.
              if without fanaticism, 10 m2 per migrant, then 500 million m5 are needed for 2 thousand, respectively.
              Quite a daunting task.
              Without the right to privatize, with rent at market prices from the 3rd year of residence.
          2. -1
            April 25 2023 18: 14
            These "Ukrainians" rushed from West to West for an "easy life" for European benefits, and not fleeing the bombings.
          3. 0
            28 July 2023 08: 09
            Now they don't know what to do with them.
        2. +1
          April 22 2023 20: 48
          People from such areas do not leave in the cold
    2. +2
      April 22 2023 05: 47
      does not make sense in the conditions of Russian dominance in its airspace,

      Do you think that aviation will begin carpet bombing of Russian cities when they are occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
    3. +4
      April 22 2023 18: 00
      Then Lvov off, for example.
  5. +1
    April 21 2023 20: 40
    To resettle - estimate at a minimum what it will cost, not even the most powerful economy will pull it, especially the Russian Federation with its social orientation
    1. +3
      April 21 2023 21: 13
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      estimate at least what it will cost

      Well, Kherson was evacuated, they didn’t overstrain ..
      In general, 200 thousand must be evacuated.

      25 km is 20 minutes on the highway

      And along the minefield, but with anti-tank ditches?
      1. -3
        April 21 2023 23: 39
        Quote from Nelton.
        And along the minefield, but with anti-tank ditches?

        Well, let's dig a hundred kilometers.
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  7. +4
    April 22 2023 06: 41
    For propaganda purposes, a northern raid is quite possible. So it is necessary to think over the task of quickly blocking roads. The coordinates of the roads are known, so you need to have a reserve of MLRS and self-propelled guns. Plus aviation and aerial reconnaissance.
    1. 0
      April 22 2023 13: 14
      We need a full-fledged airborne division in reserve, in addition to reconnaissance, and also a division of the ground forces reserve at a suitable railway station. Those. rapid reaction force. Maybe it's available. We don't know.
  8. +3
    April 22 2023 06: 44
    Believing and disposing are not the same thing! If they had the ability to use the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they would have used it immediately, again with the help of MI-5, 6, 7, which ours believes that "science does not know" what they have. How unpredictable political decisions are, especially since they are chosen as the only correct ones, is another question. Who is able to do this?
  9. +8
    April 22 2023 07: 52
    Khokhols do not want to fight in the fortifications that block the path to the Sea of ​​​​Azov. There will be too many losses. It is easier to start an offensive from the Kharkov region to the old Russian regions in order to cut off the communications of the northern grouping of our troops and go around it with the threat of encirclement. Well, quickly squeeze it out with a motor in a southerly direction.
    1. +1
      April 22 2023 13: 20
      This is of course an option if you oversleep.
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  11. +5
    April 22 2023 12: 26
    As the GDP said there (what should we fight with NATO?), What if Poland lets Svidomo go to Kaliningrad? And they will start there exactly when there will be NATO exercises and the whole bloc will buzz like a hornet's nest with fighter jets, military contingent and equipment.
    1. +2
      April 22 2023 12: 46
      In the event of an APU attack on the territory of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to make a knight's move: give Poland 24 hours to withdraw from NATO and completely close its eastern border. In case of non-compliance, strike approximately 200 tactical nuclear weapons against all military and critical infrastructure facilities. 2 hours after the strike, make a similar offer to the Baltic states, Norway, Finland, Romania, Germany and others ....
      1. +1
        April 24 2023 07: 49
        I agree, only mattress covers, and not threaten this pot-bellied little thing. These are Uncle Sam's mutts
    2. -1
      April 22 2023 12: 51
      They will let them through to Kaliningrad, "that means our border is not guarded, there are no troops and BF in Kaliningrad, all in Kronshdtvt?
      To pass through your territory means an open attack on the Russian Federation!
      NATO will not "sign" - definitely, but since Poland can say goodbye
  12. +2
    April 22 2023 12: 38
    Colleagues, I have a question: can you imagine such material appearing under Stalin?
    1. +1
      April 22 2023 13: 01
      Under Stalin, they actually reached Moscow.
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      2. -4
        April 22 2023 14: 48
        Quote: Vega (Eugene)
        Under Stalin, they actually reached Moscow.

        Do you remember how long it took to get there? And how did it end
    2. 0
      April 22 2023 19: 19
      Colleagues, I have a question: can you imagine such material appearing under Stalin?

      You might think that you lived under Stalin and you can say what and how it was.
      From other people's words, from other people's retellings. Stalin died 70 years ago.
  13. -1
    April 22 2023 12: 45
    So they run into the use of tactical nuclear weapons. completely brainwashed.
  14. -5
    April 22 2023 13: 02
    May they not enter Russian territory, no one wants to risk getting nuclear weapons. And the prevention of intrusions (well, WMD strikes) is the only reason for the existence of nuclear weapons.
  15. -4
    April 22 2023 13: 52
    Comrades, not so long ago, there was a publication where the same one claimed that the blow to Belgorod was NOT-WHO-POSSIBLE-WOMEN, and now with an accuracy of one turn?
    I will repeat my arguments why there can be no strike on Belgorod.
    1) How many tanks will they be able to gather for a strike? No more than 250-300 vehicles (in my opinion, the same author claimed that the APU, only 340 tanks).
    2) By railway, tanks will not reach Belgorod. You have to go your own way. And now consider: how many kilometers from the front line to Belgorod? The maximum speed of Leo2, depending on the modification, is up to 70 km / h. On the freeway, 300 Schumachers on the freeway? Spectacle, there will be more.
    And now the question is: will it take time to lift attack aircraft into the air and walk along the highway? In any case, less than "Schumachers will need to reach Belgorod. If, together with aviation, a ground attack on the flanks?
    I think that aviation will not destroy all cars. Perhaps 10 tanks will survive, but the city cannot be taken with 10 tanks!
    1. +3
      April 23 2023 12: 12
      From the border to Belgorod 35 km in a straight line or about 40 km along the highway or fields. This is the near rear of the front, which is shot through by MLRS. If suddenly, then they may well reach. As for attack aircraft, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have front-line air defense, just like ours. In general, there are options and we need to be on the alert and with intelligence.
  16. -2
    April 22 2023 14: 07
    This lawlessness on the part of the countries of the NATO bloc can only be stopped by a political move. The Russian Federation urgently needs to adopt a LAW, which will state that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. All hostilities take place on the territory of the Russian Federation. There is a liberation of the territory of the Russian Federation from terrorists, separatists. Military operations are taking place in accordance with the law "On countering terrorism" dated 06.03.2006 N 35-FZ. Support for terrorists, the direct participation of NATO countries on the territory of the Russian Federation, is waging an undeclared war. The PRC has laws regarding Taiwan under which Taiwan belongs to the PRC. Therefore, the United States recognizes that Taiwan belongs to the PRC.
    1. +7
      April 22 2023 14: 36
      Well, they recognized the Kherson region as part of Russia, and then what? Nothing. The mountain gave birth to a mouse.
      1. -2
        April 22 2023 19: 25
        The Livonian War lasted 25 years (1558-1583), the Caucasian War lasted 101 years (1763-1864).
        And quickly, as you know, only cats will be born (pregnancy - 68 days). As an instructor, I know this for sure.
        1. -1
          April 23 2023 10: 34
          Here the most appropriate analogies are the First World War and the Russian-Japanese. Yes, and remember how the Livonian ended.
          1. +1
            April 23 2023 17: 53
            Really?
            You cannot prove to me that these are more appropriate analogies.
            There is nothing to remember about Livonian - the king became decrepit, and with him his country. In this case, that's what counts.
            1. +2
              April 23 2023 17: 55
              Well, if you don't see a bunch of obvious parallels, that's a pity.
              The point is not the king, but the fact that protracted wars, by definition, do not lead to anything good.
              1. -2
                April 23 2023 17: 59
                It's just you seeing some heaps. You have such a vision.
                hyyyy ...
    2. +3
      April 22 2023 17: 45
      ... NATO can only stop a political move. "How categorical! The political moves of the Russian Federation have long looked like wagging ... (sorry) booty. Who will believe? Again and again expose yourself to ridicule? The same "red lines" have long been changed the color to LGBT colors, and all the so-called "political moves" will look like the coquetry of a public woman.
    3. 0
      April 22 2023 19: 06
      "" Recognizes belonging "and therefore the official visit of Pilosi? And the military agreement with Taiwan? This agreement was told back in the USSR
    4. +3
      April 23 2023 11: 32
      The Russian Federation urgently needs to adopt a LAW, which will state that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia.

      We can urgently adopt only a law in which citizens must be deprived of something or, on the contrary, stripped.
  17. +3
    April 22 2023 14: 52
    They can easily make a strike on the border area. I already wrote about this, and this strike will not be the main one, but more for the media and commotion in the RF Armed Forces.
    But first, you need a couple of blows, one, for example, on Bakhmut and tie down the landing force and Wagner there, another blow on Melitopol and Berdyansk, but after these two blows, it’s possible to wedge into the Russian border. It will create a nightmare if they go deep into our territory, it will be sad for us and with huge losses, and after that, pay attention to where from the first two strikes a successful offensive develops there and throw additional reserves. No wonder, and no one will ever use nuclear weapons, where to hit that one? In Kiev and the civilian population of Ukraine? So our president will never do this and it will be stupid. Where is the entire army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
    The Anglo-Saxons will justify the invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into our territory in the first hours of this attack, since we completely lost the information war.
    So nothing can be ruled out, and even a strike on the border, and they can easily succeed. Who will meet them? Troop unarmed with shovels? Several dozen border guards? those who have the best satellite reconnaissance in the world, communications, have air defense, aviation, heavy and light armored vehicles and equipment in some ways better than ours. Will Mr. Armageddon (Surovikin) save my heart? and there was not a single victory. It is necessary to prepare for everything that would not be much more painful than the retreat from Kherson and Kharkov.
  18. +5
    April 22 2023 15: 08
    this is what it means to draw red lines and then not follow your own warnings, if the Kremlin had fulfilled its promise to destroy the decision-making centers for an attack on Russian territory, then they would not guess where the Nazis would hit now. In a word, glory to the genius of geopolitics, this is the smartest politician of all times and peoples
  19. +3
    April 22 2023 17: 59
    In war as in war. I do not understand the indignation about the possible strikes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation has its own goals (albeit unclear), Ukraine has its own, and both are fighting to win. The Russian Federation does not want to attack Kyiv - this is the business of the mistress, Kyiv wants to attack Moscow - it is the business of the mistress. Russia has a large territory, which means that it is necessary to have armed forces that can defend it. To expropriate everything that the fugitive -vichis and -skys own, everything that belongs to unfriendly states, to use these funds for the growth of the army.
  20. +2
    April 22 2023 18: 26
    It is clear that there is no talk of any capture of the Russian capital ..

    Well, thank you for that.
  21. +4
    April 22 2023 18: 29
    For such an attack, mo should have a plan "F", and under this somewhere there should be reserves that obviously do not move anywhere, but should be able to move out in a couple of hours. Roads need to be checked. Traffic police, vai will provide promotion. Every fighter must know his place. The fuel for this roll must not be stolen. Bq reserve in tenth size. Lines for meeting such blows must be worked out. Plans must be prepared for the rapid evacuation of civilians from the line of contact. Who did not have time - sits at home in the basement. Fight against marauders. Many affairs. In short, our authorities are not capable of such an organization and elaboration of plans. As always, they will decide according to the situation. Complex plans are not for ours
  22. +2
    April 22 2023 19: 00
    how common a lot of bukuff nothing

    Prigozhin said that there would be no offensives from either side in the near future: constant heavy rains have turned the whole of Ukraine into an impassable swamp, and at least 10 days without rains are needed for this swamp to dry out minimally.
    Rogov said that if there is an offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then in the opposite direction.
    I’ll add on my own: no one knows how it will really be, it will be possible to say about it only in January-April-July 2023 (2024, 2025, 2026).
  23. +1
    April 22 2023 19: 01
    Quote: syndicalist
    does not make sense in the conditions of Russian dominance in its airspace,

    Do you think that aviation will start carpet bombing Russian cities when they are occupied by the Armed Forces?

    Why wait to be taken?
  24. -3
    April 22 2023 19: 10
    It is not politically beneficial for Ukraine to attack the Russian Federation. Now they are favorably represented by the defending side. And it's not just about the world community. It's one thing to send people to defend a country and quite another to fight abroad.
  25. 0
    April 22 2023 20: 02
    Specially for the uninitiated. A tank at top speed, almost uncontrollable, imagine a picture: 250 tanks (for example), flying along the highway at top speed. Yes, they will kill each other! And in an open field, an avalanche ... The speed drops by 20-25 km / h. A little bit of a ravine or a mound and .... The tank will roll over
    ANY experienced tractor driver will tell you what it means: diesel fuel racing. The engine will shut down in an instant, and there is also a high probability of dying yourself (I am rural and I know how they drive a tractor in the field). The main thing for them is to get away from Dryers and helicopters, and this is possible only at maximum speed. The tank is not a sports car, which means that the maximum speed is contraindicated
  26. +1
    April 23 2023 10: 20
    By the way, why did the strikes on the critical infrastructure of the Ukroreich stop, primarily key logistics and the most important energy facilities? Question to the Kremlin and the General Staff.
    1. +2
      April 23 2023 17: 59
      Most likely the rockets are not infinite.
      1. 0
        April 27 2023 00: 48
        Why was it so badly spent?