Does Russia need plywood glide bombs?

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And again, we are forced to return to the topic of the use of unmanned aircraft in the NVO zone. The appearance in service with the Armed Forces of disposable Corvo Precision Payload Delivery System (PPDS) drones from the Australian company SYPAQ, naturally, caused megatons of jokes and ridicule from the domestic jingoistic public. But are these “stupid fools” as funny as some homegrown military experts try to make it out to be?

To complete the picture, one should remember from which project the “funny” Australian disposable drones grew out of. As is often the case, behind such a non-trivial technical solution is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) of the US Department of Defense.



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Several years ago, under the order of the US Marine Corps and DARPA, as part of the TACAD (Tactical Air Delivery - Tactical Air Delivery) program, Logistics Gliders developed a project of super-budget air transport for the delivery of military cargo with minimal risks. In a zone of active combat operations, the supply of VTA aircraft or helicopters can be seriously complicated due to the risks of falling under enemy air defense or the banal absence of an entire runway.

Instead of fencing an expensive unmanned system, the Americans decided to go the way of maximally simplifying and reducing the cost of the design. Two versions of the UAV were developed under the names LG-1K with the participation of specialists from the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory and LG-2K in cooperation with DARPA. These are non-motorized aircraft of normal aerodynamic design, most of the parts of which are made of plywood, outwardly resembling “flying suitcases” with their rough contours. As a matter of fact, this is what they are.
Does Russia need plywood glide bombs?

Plywood drones are launched from transport planes or helicopters and glide to their target using a primitive control system consisting of satellite navigation and an autopilot that controls the ailerons and tail fins. Telemetry and video signal from the nasal camera are transmitted to the operator's console. LG-1K has a length of 3,2 m with a wingspan of 7,1 m, carrying capacity - 320 kg of payload. LG-2K reaches a length of 3,9 m, its wingspan is 8,4 m, and its payload is 725 kg. The speed developed during non-motorized gliding is 280 km / h, and the maximum gliding range is 120 kilometers!

These disposable drones are as simple and cheap as possible to manufacture, while they can safely deliver ammunition, medicines, food and other payloads to the front line. After use, the fighters can dismantle the equipment and, if necessary, burn the plywood. American drones can be launched from cargo planes, convertiplanes and helicopters, both from the compartment and from the suspension. Once launched, the drones spread their wings and begin controlled gliding towards their target.

Technical the solution, in fact, is extremely interesting, opening up additional possibilities, which we will talk about at the end.

Swing for a penny, hit for a ruble


Australian drones Corvo PPDS (Precision Payload Delivery System) are a variation on this theme of unmanned transporters. Unlike the American ones, they are built not from plywood, but from even cheaper waxed cardboard, but at the same time they are equipped with the simplest engine. In terms of size, SYPAQ drones are seriously inferior to Logistics Gliders products, they can lift only 3-5 kilograms of payload, but the flight range is still impressive - up to 120 kilometers.


According to open data, the Armed Forces of Ukraine buy up to 100 such disposable drones in Australia every month, and more than XNUMX of them have been accumulated in total. We, of course, laugh at all this, believing that cardboard drones are only suitable for burning in stoves. But is it?

Just imagine for a moment that the Ukrainian military will put a warhead from a cluster bomb on primitive, worth about $ 600 Corvo PPDS drones and start sending hundreds of them to Russian positions. Or not on the positions of the RF Armed Forces in the NVO zone, but on the peaceful border cities - Belgorod, Bryansk, Kursk and others? Represented? Now imagine how to shoot it all down, because a cardboard drone flying at low altitude is a rather difficult target for an air defense system. Go and see it on the radar in time. Or, on the contrary, will the Armed Forces of Ukraine deliberately paste over Australian drones with conditional “foil” and other reflective elements and start sending hundreds of them to our positions during a large-scale offensive as decoys, overloading the Russian air defense? That's it.

Now let's take another look at the American Tactical Air Delivery project. What if a warhead weighing from 320 to 750 kilograms is placed in a plywood drone worth several thousand dollars and dropped from an airplane and helicopter at a distance of 120 kilometers from the target? This is a super-budget gliding bomb made of natural, environmentally friendly materials, which can still be spotted on the radar. Maybe the Russian army would also need such high-precision gliding munitions capable of hitting targets deep in the Ukrainian rear?

There is plywood in the country, it can be dropped from transport aircraft and helicopters without entering the zone of action of enemy air defense. It seems to be funny, but for some reason it's not funny.
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  1. +8
    April 21 2023 13: 58
    The thought is correct, when thousands are needed and constantly, then simplicity and cheapness become relevant. Cardboard and paper for Australia in relation to a more humid climate is already in question. We also need mass rapid production of structural elements, here plastic molding and stamping of large parts is more suitable. At the output, a prefabricated airframe of their mass-produced plastic parts., Then the installation of the necessary elements - an engine, a monitoring and control unit and rods, etc. Hundreds and thousands are daily output, because this is a consumable material that should not be lacking. .
    1. +5
      April 22 2023 10: 36
      This needs a decision at the very top of the power vertical, otherwise no one will move.
  2. +3
    April 21 2023 14: 18
    Wouldn't have chewed snot a year ago, wouldn't have had to puzzle over how to get out
    1. +10
      April 21 2023 14: 36
      (Nikolai) Replica. "Snot chewing" means incompetence, lack of understanding of tasks, criminal inaction, not re-equipping the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with the necessary modern means, etc. In the old days, this would have been defined as sabotage and sabotage. The times are different, the definitions are not marked at all or replaced by more "liberal" ones, but the consequences are just as terrible.
      1. +6
        April 22 2023 03: 11
        Liberal inaction and criminal sabotage.
        The entire military elite of the Russian Federation - children in America, money in offshore companies and ancestors - in the country.
        A fishing buddy is not a position for the Secretary of Defense.
    2. 0
      April 23 2023 13: 01
      Rough, but to the point. Unfortunately. Maybe not a year ago, but right after the Crimea, at the patriotic upsurge of Russian consciousness. It turned out that not only "Khokhol is smart in the back," Russian too. The combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine-2022 and the Armed Forces of Ukraine-2014 is incomparable. And such a RF Armed Forces has apparently changed slightly.
  3. 0
    April 21 2023 14: 39
    There are big doubts about the "high-precision" of such products.
    In addition, with their own signal emission for the operator, their cardboard in terms of stealth does not help. To deliver goods to the surrounded formations, it will do, but covering the dugout is a dubious means.
    Well, as for throwing at random everything that explodes into the territory of the Russian Federation - so here the experience of the Palestinians and other terrorists with "balloon" missiles can be applied.
    There would be a desire among the population. And it is tired of the war - do not go to the grandmother.
  4. +5
    April 21 2023 15: 54
    Of course, there is plywood, only it’s hard for plywood marshals to get it, they operate with concepts of a global nature, and this is not serious for them
  5. +3
    April 21 2023 16: 03
    How many similar ideas have already been voiced, but ....
    So it's not really necessary.
  6. 0
    April 21 2023 16: 42
    War is economics. We need cheap delivery and safe for the RF Armed Forces. Plywood, cardboard, paper, glue, there are in the Russian Federation, bombs have been lying since the days of the USSR. Motors deficit, r / e control systems deficit. You make a controlled glider from cardboard, plywood with an accelerating accelerator, a warhead bomb one, two, three. The tug lifts several kamikaze gliders to a height. The gliders are uncoupled and the accelerating engines are switched on. Such gliders will fly even 300 km. Establishing the production of gliders in the Russian Federation will not be a problem.
  7. -2
    April 21 2023 18: 04
    This is a very expensive version of kamikaze. Not relevant for Ukraine. Since its implementation requires at least military transport aircraft, in acceptable quantities, which for a minute need to fly up to the target at a distance of 100 km at an acceptable height.
    1. +5
      April 21 2023 20: 16
      Everything is known in comparison, data from the Internet: the cost of the Kh-101 rocket is $13 million, the Caliber costs $6,5 million, the Iskander is $3 million, the Onyx is $1,25 million, the Kh-22 - 1 million dollars, and "Tochka-U" - 300 thousand dollars. The cost of the new C4-115Jet jet self-take-off glider with two JetCat P300Pro jet engines is 38000 euros. A regular glider without a motor costs $4000. These are operating gliders with a pilot. By appointment, the glider is a kamikaze, this is the same cruise missile. The simplest AN-2 tugboat dragged 3-4 km in a safe zone and let the kamikaze fly to the target, with the engine it will cover 300-400 km. 100 times cheaper than a cruise missile.
      1. +1
        April 21 2023 23: 30
        You would not replicate these nonsense here ... There are no idiots here! The caliber costs 35-38 million rubles. It is difficult to assess the X-22 - the latest missiles are already 30 years old, and the older versions are over 40 years old ... I can’t presume to say the price of the X-101, it is 70-80% more expensive than Caliber, well, this is $ 1 million at current prices. 0 Imkander -M at the same price, Iskander-K - a little more expensive than Caliber. Nonsense write elsewhere.
        1. +1
          April 23 2023 17: 52
          Do you prefer that a kamikaze glider is 40 times cheaper than a cruise missile? Considering the cost spent, you have one cruise missile for 40 million rubles and 40 kamikaze gliders made of plywood and paper, one million rubles each. The warhead is the same for everyone, 450 kg of TNT. What will cause more damage, for the same money, one cruise missile or 40 kamikaze gliders ???
  8. +2
    April 21 2023 18: 08
    ... During the Second World War, ours used "oxygen-wood" bombs against the Nazis ...
    The explosive was a mixture of ordinary sawdust and pure oxygen ... In terms of the power of the explosion, such a wooden bomb was in no way inferior to a high-explosive bomb equipped with tol, similar in caliber ... Then the "experiment" was stopped ... - Oxygen was needed to solve others. .. - more important tasks...
    ... However, the bold ingenuity of our Grandfathers-engineers who forged the Weapons of Victory should be learned ...
    ... If our Russian "left-handed" craftsmen get down to business - not shackled by any "Russian" vile and vile careerist scum and evil spirits that spread rot on them - it is quite possible that drones from whatman paper will appear in the arsenal of the Russian troops, all-weather and reliably exterminate any Bandera and NATO scum!..
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  9. +4
    April 21 2023 21: 30
    During the Second World War, fighters were made from plywood and fiberglass. Cheap and angry. Nothing prevents even now to stick tens of thousands of conditional La-5 / IL-2 on radio control, on which you can hang tens, or even hundreds of kg of payload, and fill all of Ukraine with this plywood stuff in an even layer.
    I don’t understand at all why the propeller-driven aircraft of the Second World War are forgotten. If their fuselages are made of composite, then they are almost invisible to radars, I think. Especially if they go at low level.
    Ground attack by unmanned remote-controlled IL-2 can greatly spoil the mood of the enemy.
    1. 0
      April 25 2023 04: 24
      And in the war there was fiberglass ??? Can you imagine fiberglass production technology?! :)
      1. 0
        April 26 2023 23: 22
        During the Second World War, aircraft were made from delta wood (durable, non-flammable, but the construction is heavier than metal).
  10. +1
    April 21 2023 21: 46
    War is the engine of progress ... Really effective managers have worked ... And they saved money and nasty things to the enemy - half a ton ...
  11. +3
    April 22 2023 07: 27
    I completely agree, I have long said that drones should be made based on ready-made aerodynamic solutions for aircraft of the Second World War. With or without a motor, made of plywood or plastic - this is an option.
  12. 0
    April 22 2023 16: 22
    Rethinking the use of cheap gliders to supply troops.
  13. 0
    April 22 2023 23: 58
    Thought brilliant, unfortunately, as usual, because of the cordon. Instead of ridicule, one should look at things pragmatically, because flying coffins are both cheap and fulfill their task.
    1. +2
      April 24 2023 10: 55
      Gliding bombs are a temporary cheap transitional weapon, because the range of use by carriers does not exceed 100 km, and this is already within reach for the latest air defense systems. For the manufacture of such planning bombs, firstly, compliance with the required performance characteristics. Today, this is accuracy, range, invisibility for air defense, the possibility of delivery by various means, and the use of MLRS, and only the latter is cheap (cheap weapons from poverty and often only satisfactory). Planning bombs have been known for a long time and have been used, which is why they didn’t move in the RF Ministry of Defense before. Until the roasted rooster pecked, they were engaged in personal enrichment and window dressing. To this day, the culprits of this state of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are the main ones.
      1. +1
        April 24 2023 11: 19
        Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
        why they didn’t move in the RF Ministry of Defense before. Until the roasted rooster pecked

        The tasks were not set like this, preparing for a protracted, mass war with conventional weapons.

        All this SVO is like snow on the head, in July, in sugar.
        And for the economy, and for the RF Ministry of Defense.

        That's what UAVs paid little attention to - yes, the most serious jamb since 1982.
        (not to mention the fact that even in 1982 it would be necessary to flog the entire top, demote and send to penal companies in Afghanistan, and radically change the entire curriculum in the red banner academies).