Bolt dot or ellipsis: when and how can CBO be stopped

A couple of days ago, on the eve of the long-awaited large-scale counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a program was released article founding father of PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin under the title "Fair fight: no agreement". In it, the “music producer” shared his vision of the situation on the Ukrainian fronts and forecasts about how the NWO could end.

"Fair fight"

In his publication, Prigogine spoke about the military and political significance of the so-called "Bakhmut meat grinder". In his opinion, President Zelensky tritely “fell like a boy” to his absentee challenge and went on principle, throwing more and more units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and mercenaries into this destructive funnel. According to Yevgeny Viktorovich, the battle for Artemovsk allows the RF Armed Forces to gain time to train the mobilized, reorganize, resolve internal problems and strengthen advantageous positions in order to meet the Ukrainian army fully armed.

Probably, this is the way it is, you can see it on the spot. However, we are much more interested in the oligarch’s reasoning about the transformations taking place in Russian society and behind-the-scenes “agreements” at the top of the government, which directly affect the course and possible outcome of the NWO, as well as the very future of our country. This is worth talking about in more detail. There will be many citations for clarity.

Prigozhin VS Prigozhin

We talked about how the special operation in Ukraine divided Russian society into conditional “reds” and “whites” back in article dated November 8, 2022. At the same time, the author of these lines meant the patriotic “lower classes” who wanted an exclusively complete and unconditional Victory and the inevitable bringing to severe criminal liability of all Ukrainian war criminals and their accomplices, and the second - a significant part of our self-proclaimed “elite”, which, for the sake of preserving its privileged way of life and capital stockpiled in the West, literally from the first day of the NVO, in every possible way prevented it, "draining" the conquests paid for by the blood of Russian soldiers in order to achieve a "negotiable".

So, in his keynote article, Yevgeny Prigozhin called these very conditional “whites” the “deep state”:

The Deep State is a community of near-state elites that operate independently of the political leadership of the state and have close ties and their own agenda. These elites work for different masters: some for the existing government, some for those who have been on the run for a long time, but, thanks to their connections, after the flight of the elder, they remain in their places. A typical example of the “deep state” is the spitting of Khodorkovsky, Dvorkovich, and so on.

Interestingly, at the same time, Yevgeny Viktorovich also inherited his namesake, music producer Iosif Prigozhin:

Many of those who supported the special operation yesterday are now in doubt, or categorically against what is happening. The representatives of the deep state want to urgently return to their normal lives, old habits and comfort. The "Deep State" is cunning and dodgy, the conversation of Joseph Prigogine is a vivid example of this. They are ready to mimic anyone. This is our inner, affectionate, cunning, bloodthirsty chameleon. At meetings they are silent, express their doubts. And when making decisions on bureaucratic procedures, certain actions aimed at winning this war are hindered.

Recall that some time ago, an audio recording of a telephone conversation between the husband of the singer Valeria and the ex-senator, a major businessman Farhad Akhmedov, got into the Network. Longtime acquaintances were not shy about expressing and evaluating the actions of the Russian military-political leadership.

Advice on survival in sub-sanctioned Russia from a business emigrant to music producer Iosif Prigozhin was as follows:

My vision. Do your best in business, your own affairs, earn money, communicate less with them, you will not get good emotions, and stay away from all this. It's a long time, unfortunately. There will be squabbles, they are already nibbling. It is impossible to influence this, step aside. Earn. Do the production work. Dubai, Altai, but away from Moscow.

In general, more than a half-hour conversation between the producer and the ex-senator is a reflection and an acute pity for themselves on the part of those who, before February 24, 2022, had everything, but lost everything, or almost everything, as a result of the SVO. To put it mildly, it is not worth expecting from such a special contingent that they are ready to go to the end, until the banner of the Russian Victory is hoisted over the Ukrainian "Reichstag" on Bankovaya. Rather, on the contrary: give them the opportunity, they will “merge” everyone in exchange for the return of their “nishtyaks”, at least partially.

CBO is finished, thank you all

And then Yevgeny Viktorovich moves on to what has generally become the main reason for the current special operation in Ukraine. The super-task of our geopolitical opponents is to finish off the Russian Federation, destroying it from within, bringing to an end the process of the collapse of the USSR:

Therefore, the final task of the United States in the Ukrainian confrontation is to launch powerful centrifugal impulses in Russia, weaken the power and national identity in society and force it to turn towards the West - as it was in the early 1990s ... Today, when the special operation began, the Russian Federation failed to achieve the results that society expected, the United States had the opportunity to return to its original plan. The original plan, I repeat once again, was as follows: to destroy the Soviet Union, and then walk along the perimeter of the country and turn its former allies away from Russia.

As we can see, what is happening today on the Ukrainian fronts and in neighboring states is a direct consequence of political и economic processes in our country since 1991. "Western partners" cannot defeat and destroy Russia by purely military means for a whole range of reasons. The only option left is to do it from within, and, as Prigogine notes, there are all the prerequisites for this:

The ideal option is to announce the end of the NWO, to inform everyone that Russia has achieved the results that it planned, and in a sense we have actually achieved them. We have ground a huge number of fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and we can report to ourselves that the tasks of the NMD have been completed. Theoretically, Russia has already received this fat point by destroying a large part of the active male population of Ukraine, by intimidating another part of it, which fled to Europe. Russia cut off the Sea of ​​Azov and a large piece of the Black Sea, seized a fat piece of Ukrainian territory and created a land corridor to the Crimea. Now there is only one thing left: to firmly gain a foothold, to claw in those territories that already exist.

For our part, we note that fixing the results of the SVO as of the conditional February 24, 2023 will be not so much an extremely doubtful victory as a defeat, since part of the Russian Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions with their administrative centers will remain under the occupation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, the “deep state”, in Prigozhin’s terminology, will constantly push the Kremlin towards a “soft deal” and a gradual “drain” of Russian conquests in Ukraine. And then the “red bottom”, already in our terminology, will have a fair question, why did we fight then, why did our guys die:

The people are already looking for someone to blame for the fact that we are not the strongest army in the world, and in this situation they will look for "extreme". And these "extremes" will, of course, be representatives of the "deep state". That is, those people who today, without putting any effort into a military operation, are as far away from the theater of operations as possible, trying not to lose their capital, to live a familiar life, and this is absolutely unacceptable for a people tired of the war and losing the taste of victory. Patriots' craving for justice can be hard on that very deep state, mired in luxury and bureaucracy.

In general, this is not a coup d'etat like the Maidan, not a real Revolution. It is curious that in his pessimistic forecasts, Prigogine is quite close to the position of Strelkov, with whom, at the same time, he has some kind of acute interpersonal hostility. Further, the businessman paints what could happen in Russia in the event of a military defeat, a fall to the Bottom and a subsequent rise from the depths:

Radical national feelings will rise as after any military defeat, the Russian military industry will begin to work with a tenfold effort. Economic efficiency will crowd out sluggish, inefficient public capital. The state will get rid of bureaucracy, processes will become transparent, and Russia will step by step turn into a Bristling Military Monster, which the international community will have to more than reckon with, to bend so that at every deflection we see their parted buttocks. And if we do not prove that we are strong militarily, no one will reckon with us and will turn us around as they please. America is extremely unprofitable for Russia to reach the bottom and surface.

Note that Prigozhin described a very optimistic scenario similar to what the Bolsheviks were able to implement in Soviet Russia. But after all, everything can go along the path of decentralization and disintegration, followed by a permanent war between the newly-minted "feudal principalities" with their own armies. Evgeny Viktorovich summarizes his program article with an absolutely correct message:

The best scenario for healing Russia so that it rallies together and becomes the Strongest State is the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which no handouts and negotiations will be possible. And either the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be defeated in a fair fight, or Russia will lick its wounds, build up muscles and tear its rivals again in a fair fight. Therefore, I believe that the option of agreements is impossible for the future of Russia.

That's it. CBO can really be stopped at any moment. In fact, the special operation has been suspended twice already. The second time was on Christmas Day 2023, when active hostilities on our part were unilaterally suspended during a truce at the initiative of Patriarch Kirill. By the way, Pope Francis also called for a two-week truce due to Easter, but to no avail. And the first time the NWO was suspended on February 25, 2022, the day after it began. This was announced on February 26 last year by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov:

Yesterday afternoon, in connection with the expected negotiations with the Ukrainian leadership, the Supreme Commander and President of Russia ordered the suspension of the advance of the main forces of the Russian troops.

In general, a bold dot, or rather, an ellipsis, in CBO can be placed at any time.
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  1. Azvozdam Offline Azvozdam
    Azvozdam (Azvozdam) April 16 2023 14: 08
    In a million options, only one is correct. All the rest lead to the collapse of Russia. Moreover, immediately!
    1. Pembo Online Pembo
      Pembo April 16 2023 15: 02
      Russia's isolation and degradation of the economy lead to the collapse of Russia. Not everyone likes the construction of the second edition of the USSR in Russia, especially young people. Support the West for the centrifugal tendencies of the Russian republics: why do you need this miserable, isolated impoverished Russia, join NATO, the EEC will live like normal people. And all Russia will end. Let me remind you 5 years ago Russia held the World Cup. Where have we been and what have we come to!?
  2. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) April 16 2023 14: 11
    The best scenario for healing Russia so that it rallies together and becomes the Strongest State is the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which no handouts and negotiations will be possible.

    And if the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not plan to attack at all? Maybe all their cries about a counterattack on the Crimea and the south of Donbass is a bluff?
    They will take it and start making new lines of defense through every city like Bakhmut or even larger. And they will begin to rivet the Bandera line, the Shukhevych line, the Lesya Ukrainka line, etc. and we will get stuck for many years boiling in this cauldron and looking for ways to a truce.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 16 2023 14: 58
    In general, 500 is another explanation of why everything went wrong, as promised.
    True, already from the side of the thieves oligarch, and not the "polished expert"

    Therefore, theses are oligarchic:
    1) State capitalism is inefficient, let "effective managers" steer completely
    2) The people are all for the king, these are bad boyars, they do not want a quick victory with little bloodshed.
    Therefore, the Justice promised by the Tsar never came, but the people are for justice, therefore ...
    3) It is necessary to rally, solidify, etc. around the tsar and good boyars, so that the bristling military monster can forcefully climb into the parted buttocks of the "international community" (Oh! familiar from the rhetoric of the 30s series. Test)
    4) then we will live, Russia will be healed, and what was promised for 20, or even 30 years, will become a reality ...

    Even shorter: New privatization, new redistribution of property, rapid rallying around the "martial law" oligarchs with all the consequences of the "Bristling War Monster"
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  5. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) April 16 2023 15: 19
    True article, especially the ending. To the ellipsis, most likely, it goes. Regrettably, behind the scenes - it is also an inconspicuous underwater state - is working. Sluggish threats to cancel the grain deal, noisy reports from the front lines with no progress, the demonstrative moves of Quarter 95 to put pressure on Orthodoxy, and the prospect of a half-blood union are examples of waves on the surface.
    On the other hand, the official policy of replacing European with Asian and African-Latin American economic and political ties suggests that there will be no stop, continuation will follow in any current scenario
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  7. Tikhonov Alexander April 16 2023 17: 24
    Victory is only the destruction of the outlying quasi-formation and the inclusion of territories as regions in Russia .. The destruction of any military formations, all kinds of "peacekeepers" introduced by the West into the territory of the outskirts. And then - the identification and punishment of the Bandera, fascist rabble - the executions of odious scum, imprisonment, deprivation of voting rights and the possibility of occupying leadership positions .... There is enough information: there is both the press and TV ... Catching the escaped fascists and their traitors, wherever they hide. The artificial quasi-state must disappear. Next is the turn for Russophobic regimes in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and others. Then turn for Poland. This Russophobic country simply needs to be sent into oblivion. But, unfortunately, there are fundamental obstacles - a lack of will, intelligence at our top, an inexhaustible desire to make peace with the West and to kowtow to it.
    1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
      Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) April 16 2023 18: 26
      Objectively, this is not the only thing, the army is not strong enough. In the course of the SVO, it was revealed very Many problems. Or do you still believe that we have the second army of the world, which will defeat everyone, if only the generals are allowed to fight without white gloves?

      Poland, by the way, cannot be limited, do not forget about Finland, the Baltic states and Germany. Also extremely Russophobic countries.
      1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
        scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) April 16 2023 20: 40
        What about small shaves? And the strait named after I.V. Stalin? Lots of plans! All Russians will find something to do.

        PS and Kosovo must be returned to Serbia, in the meantime ...
      2. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) April 17 2023 23: 29
        don't forget about Finland, the Baltics and Germany. Also extremely Russophobic countries.

        Do not forget.
        Finland since the post-war period has been one of the best friends of the USSR (for the Olympics-80, it flooded Moscow with its various jams and not only them),
        Lithuania-Latvia-Estonia were sister republics until the end of the 80s,
        Germany, led by Grandmother Merkel, who played for a long time, until quite recently was shaking hands with the main guarantor; you can still remember how Comrade Mr. Yeltsin famously conducted a German orchestra in 1994, it will soon be 30 years since the whole world enjoys this enchanting spectacle :)))
    2. Ray Offline Ray
      Ray April 18 2023 01: 04
      Wow, how you suffered something ... It's scary to imagine with what force you "knocked" on the keyboard.
      That is, you do not care about international law, the right of states to non-interference in internal affairs (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Poland are sovereign UN member states). Catch, shoot, punish everyone, then how do you differ from the same Ukrainians? Remember: explicit hatred for something is a sign of the latent presence of an object of hatred in you.
  8. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) April 16 2023 17: 45
    that is, the great geopolitician of all times and peoples, the next day after he had been crucifying in his speech for an hour what he would do with the outskirts, gave up and stammered about the negotiations. From everything that has happened this year, there is no doubt for me that if anyone leaks this NWO, then it is only Putin himself and no one else
  9. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
    Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) April 16 2023 18: 22
    "Western partners" cannot defeat and destroy Russia by purely military means for a whole range of reasons

    For one single reason - nuclear weapons. If it were not for him, B-52s would have bombed Moscow long ago, and the Abrams were in Khimki.

    For the same reason, no one is going to finish off Russia. Well, they will destroy it, and then what? They will get dozens of countries with nuclear missiles instead of one. The consequences are completely unpredictable. That’s why they didn’t finish it off in the 90s, although the country was then much weaker than it is now.
    No, they are simply trying to isolate Russia as much as possible from the rest of the world, so that it degrades and dies out on its own.
    1. hell MASTER Offline hell MASTER
      hell MASTER (Hell MASTER) April 16 2023 19: 03
      The USSR had dozens of times more nuclear weapons, technology, industry, hundreds of thousands of advanced military equipment. But the USSR collapsed.

      Russia - in which everything that is possible has been optimized and taken offshore, you won’t be able to fall apart, you say? Yes, damn it, everything is being done in the country to make this happen, and vile agreements and a grain disgrace accelerates everything.
      Why does the United States need to ruin the country, without them there are enough optimizers
      1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
        Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) April 16 2023 19: 35
        It is true that the USSR collapsed. Myself. For Americans, the collapse of the USSR was a big surprise. The United States is not trying to break up the Russian Federation for the same reason, they are simply isolating it. If the collapse happens, then as usual from the inside. The problem is that the NWO has greatly destabilized the country. Roughly speaking, the parties of patriots and liberals grabbed each other's throats.
  10. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) April 16 2023 23: 27
    Why Strelkov is right
    (Stremousov's last interview "The Nazis don't need Kherson..")
    and how Mr. Mardan ("Whoever surrenders Kherson will be a traitor, a traitor ..") then changed his point of view ..

    1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
      Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) April 16 2023 23: 34
      And who gave it up? General Armageddon... Who was promoted by all the media. As a result, zilch, and no longer remember him. As per command.
      1. hell MASTER Offline hell MASTER
        hell MASTER (Hell MASTER) April 16 2023 23: 40
        So he was appointed for this purpose in order to hang responsibility on him. I think he himself agreed to this, naturally for something significant)
  11. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) April 17 2023 01: 37
    The Deep State is a community of near-state elites that operate independently of the political leadership of the state and have close ties and their own agenda. These elites work for different masters: some for the existing government, some for those who have been on the run for a long time, but, thanks to their connections, after the flight of the elder, they remain in their places. A typical example of the “deep state” is the spitting of Khodorkovsky, Dvorkovich, and so on.

    As I understand it, the owner of the association of combat mercenaries works for himself? You are such a free merchant. I want to, I don't want to. You can write a lot and look for the extreme. But we know the specific reason for this mess. And we know specific people. But we can't do anything. It remains to either nod your head or clench your fists.
    1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
      scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) April 17 2023 11: 57
      But we can't do anything.

      We can do everything, we just don't want to. Russians can do everything, whoever is against is that Russophobe.
  12. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) April 17 2023 11: 56
    The NWO exposed all the negatives of the capitalist system, theft, lies, comprador power, colonial dependence on the West. The NWO made the layman come to the conclusion that trouble had also come or would come to his hut. The more citizens of the Russian Federation will pass through the SVO and the more time the SVO will be, the fewer citizens will support the modern liberal government. In the 1990s, a coup d'état took place in the USSR, the liquidation of the USSR, the power and wealth of the people were seized by the family, the national mafia headed by Yeltsin. Putin is a member of this family, a protege of Yeltsin, his whole policy is to secure them in power for centuries. Who will put a bold point??? And what would that expression be? Victory or capitulation of Russia.
    Opinion of an ordinary citizen. There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state, Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Bandera, no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will strengthen its economic and military-political influence in the world, there will be direct access to the EU countries. NATO will no longer be able to use Ukraine against Russia. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia.
    Even if part of the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    Any half-hearted decision is the defeat and capitulation of the Russian Federation to NATO.
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 17 2023 14: 49
      I agree that the work we have begun must be brought to an end, under any circumstances and no matter what.
      1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) April 17 2023 23: 37
        To what end? What is considered the end?
        What are the criteria for winning? What is considered a victory?
        In these matters, even here, everyone screams louder than the other.
  13. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) April 17 2023 17: 25
    to the question of who will outlast whom economically.

    there has been a number of news that the EU countries are refusing Ukrainian food, i.e. hit on the main export article ...

    The Slovak government, following Poland and Hungary, decided to suspend the import of grain and other products from Ukraine

    is that a knife in the back?
    Hungary is still understandable, a longtime frondeur, but Poland?
    1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
      hellman anton (hellman anton) April 17 2023 17: 28
      Economically, the United States and Europe are 10 goals higher, what is there to sit out. If everything is clear anyway
      1. scolopendra Offline scolopendra
        scolopendra (Kirill Sazonov) April 17 2023 21: 17
        But what about the plans to bring down the dollar, build a multipolar world, see the collapse of the states, NATO and the European Union? .. You just need to be patient.
      2. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) April 17 2023 22: 49
        hellman anton, but they, the United States, are no longer able to solve their problems by economic methods, do you agree with me? laughing
  14. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) April 17 2023 23: 16
    However, we are much more interested in the reasoning oligarch about the transformations taking place in Russian society and the behind-the-scenes "agreements" in the power elite,

    "What does the word oligarch mean?" - An oligarch is a businessman who has concentrated in his hands a significant part of the country's wealth and has both direct (through parties, parliament, government) and indirect influence on the current government ..

    In my opinion, the word "oligarch" with a huge stretch fits the conductor of the orchestra. A rich man, nothing more.
  15. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) April 18 2023 05: 00
    The operation turned into a Jewish cabal.
    As for the one on this side, they use the methods of conducting an operation run in by Israel. Apparently, there were no military personnel with experience in Russian or German military science left in the headquarters. The methods of Israel and the USA are used. The result is obvious on the example of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) April 18 2023 08: 25
      Apparently, there were no military personnel with experience in Russian or German military science left in the headquarters. The methods of Israel and the USA are used. The result is obvious on the example of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria.

      Was the withdrawal in February 1989 of a "limited contingent" from the so-called DRA a Russian-German cabal or a Jewish one?
  16. bobnew2017 Offline bobnew2017
    bobnew2017 (Bobylev Alexey) April 18 2023 14: 03
    Fixation is to give NATO fascists a chance to gain strength and give them the opportunity to destroy Russia. Therefore, there can be no fixations and truces with a mortal enemy. Destroy everyone, to the last creature!
  17. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) April 19 2023 04: 23
    Quote: trampoline instructor
    Apparently, there were no military personnel with experience in Russian or German military science left in the headquarters. The methods of Israel and the USA are used. The result is obvious on the example of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria.

    Was the withdrawal in February 1989 of a "limited contingent" from the so-called DRA a Russian-German cabal or a Jewish one?

    The conclusion suggests itself, if the topic.