Why is the Russian mobilization system inferior to the Ukrainian one?

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The expectation of a large-scale winter offensive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine smoothly turned into the expectation of a large-scale spring offensive. Once Ukraine's black soil is dry enough to support the weight of Western armored vehicles, Kyiv can launch counterattacks in several directions at once. At the same time, we are dispersing the opinion that this Ukrainian offensive will be the last, since all the most combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will burn out in it. Alas, this is a misconception.

In fact, in Ukraine there is a confrontation not only between the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not only the Russian and Western military-industrial complex, but also two types of mobilization systems. Domestic problems should be discussed separately.



Mobilization in Ukrainian


Many in Russia are sincerely perplexed why the Kiev regime is holding on so fiercely to every stronghold, to every village, why it does not allow its troops to withdraw from the doomed Artemovsk. The answer is simple: the Ukrainian General Staff is simply gaining time to prepare reserves by burning their own Teroborona and the most combat-ready Russian attack aircraft in positional battles in the Donbass. The tactics chosen by him, unfortunately, are very reasonable and effective.

After the Russian blitzkrieg, launched on February 24, 2022, failed, Kyiv, with the support of the collective West, began to spin the flywheel of a large-scale “people's war”. This was greatly facilitated by the fact that during the years of the “ATO” Ukraine worked out its mobilization mechanism and drove over 600 servicemen through the Donbass, who became a “hot” reserve for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. After the Kremlin withdrew troops from Kiev and decided to focus on the liberation of the DPR and LPR while holding the Azov region, the Zelensky regime was able to calmly prepare for a counteroffensive, which, as we know, was quite successful in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions. This became possible only thanks to the well-established mobilization mechanism.

In particular, back in 2016, with an eye to the future in Ukraine, the Reserve Corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was created, which is a cadre of troops, that is, "blanks" of units and subunits with experienced officers and trained old-timers, which can be quickly satiated at the expense of the mobilized. In the spring of 2022, the number of such cropped units in the Armed Forces of Ukraine was increased. It is they who are the core, around which more and more reserves of the Ukrainian army have been continuously formed for the second year already. In addition, part of the burden of training and combat coordination of the Armed Forces of Ukraine according to the standards of the NATO bloc was taken over by Western sponsors of the Kyiv regime.

That is, while the “Wagnerites” and the teroboronists are mutually grinding each other in Artemivsk, in the Ukrainian rear, the formation of more and more new units and subunits of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is continuously taking place. The "skeleton" of regular officers and fired upon veterans is systematically overgrown with "meat" of the mobilized. It would be extremely naive to expect that Kyiv will be allowed to abandon all its personnel reserves and burn them in the course of a large-scale offensive, spring, summer or autumn. No one will allow Zelensky to do this, and he himself is by no means a complete layman to give such orders.

And what about our mobilization?

"Paper Army"


With her, everything is difficult for us. Literally since March 2022, all adequate military experts began to talk about the need for mobilization, when it became clear that the SVO had gone a little bit against the plan. However, during the first six months, senior government officials maintained that no mobilization was planned. Instead, hidden mobilization activities began in the form of the creation of various volunteer battalions, the so-called PMCs, and the hiring of contract soldiers in the RF Armed Forces.

However, partial mobilization had to be announced officially after the forced humiliating “regrouping” in the Kharkiv region in September last year. To stabilize the situation at the front, it was planned to call up to 300 reservists. And this is where a lot of problems come up. Everyone has already heard about the shortage of equipment and other ammunition for the mobilized, but this is not even the main “plug”. In December 2022, President Putin told where exactly the called-up reservists are serving:

Out of 300 thousand of our mobilized fighters, men, our defenders of the Fatherland, 150 thousand are in the zone of the operation, that is, half, in the troops, are in the group. Of these 150 in the grouping, only half, that is, 77, are directly in combat units, the rest are on the second or third lines, performing, in fact, the functions of territorial defense troops, or are undergoing additional training in the operation zone.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation constantly declares that there will be no second wave of mobilization. There are objective reasons why the human resource is used in this way during the JEE. The thing is that in the course of Serdyukov's reforms, the Soviet mobilization system was finally broken. Until 2009, we had the so-called paper army - the very cadre units that were supposed to become the core for mass mobilization, which are not there now.

During the late USSR, 4 types of divisions of the Ground Forces were created with the letters A, B, C, G. Type A is a division fully deployed 100% in wartime states, mobilization is not needed. Type B - almost fully deployed: two-day readiness, 100% equipment in the parks, 70-80% of the wartime staff. Type B is a division with 25-30% staff, 100% of the main combat equipment and approximately 50% of the supporting equipment. Type G - "blanks" of future divisions with non-deployed regiments: 10% of the staff, 50% of military equipment in the parks, 30-day readiness. Such a decision made it possible to significantly save on the army in peacetime, but to be able to deploy it fairly quickly if necessary.

So, in the course of the “reform”, this mobilization system, declared terribly ineffective, was put under the knife. The cadre units were either completely disbanded or turned into bases for the storage of military equipment and weapons (BKhVT). But Defense Minister Serdyukov then boasted that the country had received a fully combat-ready army. What these statements were worth, we saw in 2022.

Thus, there is a serious problem of the modern Russian mobilization system, which has shown its uncompetitiveness with the Ukrainian one, which, in fact, is a bizarre hybrid between the Soviet and NATO. The solution lies either in the plane of the revival of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation of cropped units, which will allow the RF Armed Forces to systematically form all new reserves around the "core" of fired officers and veterans, or more active development LEOPARD (Special Combat Army Reserve), which will make it possible to keep trained military personnel in a constantly combat-ready state instead of those who are forcibly mobilized.
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  1. +11
    April 6 2023 18: 15
    At the beginning of the NWO, there were already hints of a mistake similar to the mistake of the Germans, under which the USSR was able to stretch out the time. Then the German car, having made a stop, regrouped and aimed at the southern regions of the USSR. The Dnieper, almost surrounded by Soviet troops, were able to give the country 70 days. Having chained around itself and crossing the German units. During these 70 days, the USSR came to its senses after the upheavals of the beginning of the war, began mobilization, rebuilding life on a war footing.
    What gave us standing near Bakhmut, Ugledar, Maryinka, Avdiivka, and so on? We gave the outskirts almost 6 months to restore, mobilize and so on ..... And although our bravura urya-patriots vigilantly sing victorious anthems for future victories over the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we have already given them a head start. And the longer this trampling lasts, the more painful the blow will be for the Army.
    And with all this, the rear supply routes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remain not destroyed, economically important enterprises in the depths sleep peacefully, important bridges and tunnels along the border line with Western partners have not been destroyed. The leadership of the enemy country generally has the label of immunity .....
    hi ... Well, in the end: our business towards Europe with strategic goods is in no case interrupted by the will of the aligarhs, the goods go. Little of! cheerfully achieved success in the accelerated delivery of goods from China, through the territory of Russia to Europe .... and the goods, oh, how they are needed, including for the Armed Forces of Ukraine ....
    The question is brewing: This NWO can be so, a screen .... ????
    With one hand we send a Russian soldier to death, to storm, with the other we trade with the enemy ..... The top lives its boyar life, Dubai, Krushaveli, children in London schools, dancing, business in the war (military contracts of close trusted people) ... ..
    Are there warriors or merchants in command at the top ??? It's time to be determined. hi
    Cheerfully, like an energizer, a man in big uniforms broadcasts statistics of destroyed enemy tanks, aircraft, guns, etc. ... but what's the use of this bookkeeping?
    .... By the way .... perhaps the silent calm existence of the children and relatives of our officials in London, Dubai, New York, etc. is connected with the immunity of Ukrovershka, etc.????? The boyars and the aligarhs agreed not to bite theirs on top???
    1. +6
      April 6 2023 18: 37
      Well, apart from selling resources, they don’t know how to do anything else, and they don’t need to know how. Therefore, they do what they know how to give Europe and the USA resources.

      in fact, many industries have degraded and destroyed in the country. The maximum they can boast of is that they could not optimize ROSATOM, nuclear energy. But apparently they will get to that.

      Officials' children need to eat lobsters in New York, London and Dubai. They will sell everything they can, I think the sale of military products to the United States and Europe through the African gasket will open.
    2. -6
      April 7 2023 08: 38
      That is, all the polymers were screwed up?
      Is it time to decide? What to decide?
      What are you pushing for?
      "Gang get out!"? Do you want a Ukrainian script? With white ribbons instead of Maidan? Put the security forces on their knees and seize the weapons of the National Guard, as in Ukraine? And then the lawlessness of the "black hundred" in the interests of grant givers?
      Are you out of your mind?
      I think yes.
      You deliberately spin a spiral of hatred for the authorities in order to change, but you will never write - to whom. As the Kharkov ukronazi Filatov said there: "... we will hang them later ..."?
      1. +1
        April 7 2023 18: 02
        "Gang get out!"? Do you want a Ukrainian script? With white ribbons instead of Maidan? Put the security forces on their knees and seize the weapons of the National Guard, as in Ukraine? And then the lawlessness of the "black hundred" in the interests of grant givers?
        Are you out of your mind?

        And what about successful taxpayers being shot in batches from officially received weapons in Ukraine? Doubts take me .. Who will dare to sign a sentence for himself? Only .. There are not many of them ..
      2. -1
        April 11 2023 22: 00
        to change, but you never write - to whom

        Whoever wins the elections by an honest majority of votes will be replaced. And the same goes for the next election. And so at least ten times in a row. Which is easier.
  2. +12
    April 6 2023 18: 21
    Some are stupid and cowardly. "We haven't even started yet"... And don't start! With this, only gas and oil to drive their enemies! Money does not smell - but the blood of soldiers is on them ...
  3. +4
    April 6 2023 18: 55
    the Zelensky regime was able to calmly prepare for a counteroffensive, which, as we know, was quite successful in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions. This became possible only thanks to the well-established mobilization mechanism.

    In Ukraine, now they may not think about the economy at all, and completely focus on the war.
    Everything they need for war and for life they will receive from the West, both directly and in the form of transfers from Zrobitchans.

    In the Russian Federation, the situation is exactly the opposite, the economic confrontation with the West will not go anywhere even with access to the border with Poland.
    Accordingly, in the long game, the main thing is to maintain and develop the economy, and not whose flag is over a pile of rubble.
    And yes, to maintain a database, first of all, it is not infantry that is needed, but equipment and complex filling for it, and this is the same economy. This is the same purchases of equipment and components, incl. according to gray schemes, and you have to pay for all this in hard currency, not reports from the fronts.
    In 2022, machines and equipment were purchased for $100+ billion.
    1. 0
      April 6 2023 19: 10
      If the army understood that they needed equipment, not infantry, then who in their right mind would give the command to re-mothball the T55a and mobilize 300 people.
      The army still does not have strike UAVs. Therefore, your stories about technology have no basis.
      RF Armed Forces do not want to conduct combat operations according to modern standards
      1. -1
        April 6 2023 23: 53
        What are you talking about?! Still no strike UAVs? It's all gone, boss! Katz (sorry, hellman) offers to surrender?)
        And what about "Orion", "Forpost" and "Pacer"?
        Well, about the Lancent kamikaze drones, you can read here:
        https://topcor.ru/33842-rossijskie-drony-lancet-unichtozhili-pochti-polovinu-natovskoj-artillerii-v-zone-svo.html
        1. +3
          April 7 2023 12: 48
          Orion who cannot distinguish between a tree or a person. And many Pacers fly.
          1. -2
            April 8 2023 08: 07
            yes you are! and our Orions are blind and Pacers in one copy ...... how sick of such aslans and their like with their stuffing. misguided or enemies!
          2. -1
            April 8 2023 23: 19
            Aslan, and Orion does not need to distinguish a tree from a person if he has completely different goals. Aslan, how many Inohodtsev fly? And how many do you think - And many Pacers fly?
  4. +5
    April 6 2023 19: 28
    The longer the incomprehensible of the three letters of the CBO, the problems, in my opinion, will grow within the country. Soon the time will come when wives and mothers will get tired of receiving funerals and burying their children, meeting cripples on the threshold of the house, waiting for them for many months and then years when they return them of this incomprehensible NWO, where the warring parties trade among themselves, give the Jews promises not to touch the main Jewish fascist of the independent. countries for defending the borders of their homeland. Suspended silence in the country from the highest is just annoying.
    There are almost, if not more, 500 tons of the country's male population in the NWO, and it is not yet clear by whom to raise the economy, given that mobilization may be repeated, since promises and deeds in our country are two different things.
    They will play us for as long as possible, which means they will play the card of the discontented inside the country, which may be why Strelkov began to appear again, cobbled together some kind of group of indignant ones.
    1. +4
      April 6 2023 19: 32
      Um, everyone who is unhappy is it because the West is rocking the boat? Or maybe it’s those who shouted that UAVs are toys for children and the army is now without shock UAVs and strategic intelligence officers? Enough nonsense about how the West is rocking the boat, apparently Medvedchuk’s west is 100 exchanged Nazis, right?
      You are not looking for rockers there
      1. 0
        April 6 2023 19: 42
        Quote from hellman anton
        Um, everyone who is unhappy is it because the West is rocking the boat? Or maybe it’s those who shouted that UAVs are toys for children and the army is now without shock UAVs and strategic intelligence officers? Enough nonsense about how the West is rocking the boat, apparently Medvedchuk’s west is 100 exchanged Nazis, right?
        You are not looking for rockers there

        Is this me? a single drone about which you write.

        Enough nonsense about how the West is rocking the boat, apparently the West exchanged Medvedchuk for 100 Nazis, right?

        What is Medvechuk? Brad, this is yours that I copied.
  5. 0
    April 6 2023 19: 51
    Until 2009, we had a so-called paper army - the very cropped units that were supposed to become the core for mass mobilization

    This is when, according to the documents, there is a division, but in fact it’s good if it’s a company.
  6. +2
    April 6 2023 20: 20
    The expectation of a large-scale winter offensive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine smoothly turned into the expectation of a large-scale spring offensive. ...

    Reminds me of Tolstoy's story - Shepherdesses and Wolves.

    In real life, the media also predicted the Russian offensive a little earlier, just in the spring-summer.
    Probably coffee grounds for divination is the same ...
  7. +4
    April 7 2023 08: 17
    Weird criticism.
    Mr. Marzhetsky would have seen the state of these BKhVT in the ZabVO in the 90s ...
    You can issue such articles if you either did not know the real situation, or if you hide inconvenient facts.
    It is enough just to recall the beginning of the first Chechen campaign and attempts to recruit simple battalions from a "whole" regiment. But then there were a lot of cropped parts and BKhVT - and it didn’t help!
    IMHO, the issue is not so much organization as funding. If there is money for the maintenance of the framed units, as well as the desire to quickly deploy the existing (!) personnel reserve, it is easy.
    But this is not cheap - regular gatherings of "partisans" with shooting, coordination and re-preservation of part of the equipment (with subsequent conservation), fuel and lubricants and b / c, maintaining a system of warehouses and changing clothes / sanitation. Again, some of the officers in these units will be cut off from real combat training.
    And again, this makes sense in the presence of this very personnel reserve - soldiers and sergeants must be trained separately and in advance.

    PS And this is without taking into account the equipment in storage - it just needs to be in the right quantity and quality, and from time to time it must be upgraded.
    PPS Yes, we must not forget about the ammunition in the warehouses - they should be in quantity for several months of the war for all this equipment. And when the equipment is replaced by a more modern one, they should also be replaced.
    PPPS And we must not forget that all these mobilized for the war need to be fed and dressed. Those. warehouses for this whole horde must be filled and updated in a timely manner.
  8. +5
    April 7 2023 08: 56
    Unfortunately, it is becoming increasingly difficult to believe the bravura assurances about "grinding", inevitable victory, and other optimism. With military affairs, it seems like a skiff in general, the Chechens, and Kadyrov, and paratroopers, and capable commanders have disappeared somewhere. All that remains is waiting, and it is controlled by the unsinkable Ukraine and, oh, what a weak NATO. A rolling stone gathers no moss. Wars are not won by sitting on the defensive.
  9. +7
    April 7 2023 12: 45
    And Serdyukov lives and prospers. I wonder what face of Russia gave him a roof. I seem to guess!
  10. +6
    April 7 2023 13: 42
    to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear

    - this applies to the current Kremlin authorities and there is no point in asking her questions, everything is very clear
  11. +5
    April 7 2023 15: 41
    There is no point in comparing.
    The authorities fenced themselves off from everything - the people, and elections, and mobilization and NWO ....

    As they wrote - under 1-2 million army and guards + under a million security officials + hundreds of thousands of squads of the collective Kadyrovs .... + a bunch of elite guards + Edrovtsy that they will take everything out instantly and sell them over the hill ... + heaps of young pensioners-siloviki. ...
    Partial mobilization of commoners? allegedly 300 thousand instead of 2 edrovites?
  12. +3
    April 8 2023 00: 45
    Well, in the end, you need to understand that we are waiting for the 2nd round of mobilization, or even the third. My 300th without a hand came, he told me how it was. Nothing good... So you can slowly prepare.
  13. +1
    April 8 2023 09: 13
    There is an option to do not two-week training camps, but three-month training and retraining courses. Pay as under a short-term contract, with the preservation of the workplace. Carry out every 5 years after completing the draft service up to 40 years. Mobre reserve will be.
    1. 0
      April 8 2023 09: 49
      I have a question, did you serve? Yes, at least 200 months of training. There is zero sense in this. There is no real training, education.
      There is no school of instructors who would be trained to effectively train personnel, there are no training bases with computer training places, simulators where you can train 24/7, for example, UAV operators, ATGM operators, MLRS and so on.
      Well, maybe for a start, the conscripts will stop painting the edgings and borders, and start training them?
      I am amused by comments like let's increase the service life or the term of fees. What's the point of increasing them, what will it change? You can train a specialist from scratch in six months, well, except for some kind of prodigy pilot.
      1. 0
        13 July 2023 14: 07
        I didn’t serve, but the reform of retraining needs to be carried out, a mobile reserve is needed, simulators and instructors, and the real use of technology should be mastered, taught not from scratch, but already served guys, in the army you need to start training UAVs, medical care, communications ..
    2. +1
      April 11 2023 23: 43
      All this was in the USSR. Even if not with 100% efficiency, but it was.
  14. +1
    April 8 2023 14: 51
    Why such a state of the army? So we didn't want to fight. We were not going to fight in Ukraine either, we were going to quietly and peacefully carry out a coup. But it didn't work out peacefully. And it all started with the fact that at the Munich speech, Vladimir Vladimirovich rolled out a presentation to the West. The country is a huge natural wealth immeasurable, there are nuclear weapons, but there is no respect for it. But I want to be one of the centers of power, one of the world's poles in a multipolar world. And who wants? certainly not to the average layman, especially to those who lived in the country of the USSR, which was one of the poles of the world, only to the average layman this fact gave nothing but pride in the country. And you can’t put pride in your mouth and you won’t put it on yourself, and it’s not very good to live proudly in Khrushchev, or even in a barracks. Therefore, the layman looked at it with indifference - the president is blessed, well, okay. It's so human. And a good president is not a person, it is a function that least of all should think about which chair to sit at a meeting of world leaders. Moreover, we had a place in the eight. The stool is attached, but quite a nothing. It is possible to achieve investments for the country and a lot of good things without shaking the law and demanding a pole, the example of China, the leaders, who did not shake the law, but developed the country and now it is the pole.
    The war of 08.08.08 is an example of how it was necessary to carry out the NWO, minimizing the inevitable diplomatic and economic losses. In the peace enforcement operation, we did not suffer such losses at all. Because knowing about the planned attack of Georgia on South Ossetia, we waited for this attack. The Georgian army attacked Tskhinval, there were casualties among the civilian population and our peacekeeping battalion, which was in South Ossetia under a UN mandate, and we sent troops into South Ossetia and western Georgia, we didn’t go to Tbilisi, and as a result, we didn’t annex South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but simply recognized their independence. The information campaign was also won, the result - no sanctions. This is how it was necessary to protect the Donbass, which in this case, many in the world would sympathize with. And Russia would not have received such heavy sanctions and the whole world would not have joined them.
    The aspiration of Ukrainians to Europe was already visible in Soviet times, intensified during the years of independence, and Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine also dreamed about it. Therefore, the relatively pro-Russian Yanukovych campaigned for association with the EEC. And it was a terrible mistake to dissuade him. Yes, we would lose something economically and Ukraine would move a little further away from Russia. But when Yanukovych refused to sign the treaty in Vilnius, both Europe and a significant part of Ukrainians became furious. We got the Maidan and instead of Yanukovych, loyal to Russia, a pro-Western government. Reunification with Crimea was a dream come true, but with a significant part of the Ukrainians, Russia finally quarreled. The defense of Donbass also did not add love to us. At the same time, there were pro-Russian Ukrainians, there were, but the economic situation improved every year, they received a visa-free regime, which they received after the Maidan only a few years later, and without the Maidan they might not have received it at all. Therefore, the idea of ​​falling into the orbit of Russia on the territory of Ukraine found fewer and fewer supporters. The NVO began with a strike on Kyiv, statements about demilitarization and denazification. They assumed the complete liberation of Ukraine and a puppet government in Kyiv. And as a result, the unity of the peoples of Russia and Ukraine and a close union of the two states. And Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin goes down in history as the unifier of Russian lands after the collapse of great Russia. The problem of Crimea, Donbass, the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, its entry into NATO and the EEC, and the Ukrainization of the population are being solved. Everything is solved! It is a pity that in Putin's entourage there was no sane and courageous person who would tell him that these are just beautiful-hearted dreams far from reality. Did not find or did not heed? After all, how important and pleasant it is to go to the third term, which is not prescribed by the constitution, in the wreath of a victor, having confirmed your leadership! And imagine, if there were no "zeroing", Putin would not go for a third term, but would think about a pension, fishing and a house on the Black Sea, you see, and he would not be drawn to this adventure. And Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin would be a man who raised Russia from his knees, and not a man who raised Russia from his knees and dropped her face into the dirt
  15. -3
    April 9 2023 00: 06
    Another nonsense as a continuation of the myth about the collapse of the Army by Serdyukov! For how long will this rubbish dump be poured on Serdyukov? The author, why are you deceiving members of the forum and turning everything from a sick head to a healthy one? What does it give you? Self-satisfaction? Write the truth AT LEAST ONCE!!! That all the events took place in the world during a period of warming of the international situation and partial disarmament! That this was the first call that unambiguously indicated that the arms race imposed by the USSR by the West was simply destroying the country's economy, and if this continued, the population would soon have nothing to eat! And at the head of this race, however strange it may seem, was our Central Committee of the CPSU. Therefore, in order to stop this suicidal race, it was necessary to deprive the communists of the administrative role, it seems, Article 6 of the Constitution. At that time, the maintenance of the Army was already an unbearable burden for the country's budget! Even the withdrawal of troops from the GDR could no longer be of decisive importance. It was necessary to reduce everything that was not critical at that time and not replenish the budget and not deplete it with unnecessary expenses. Now is the time for the author to imagine how much the Army ate up finances in peacetime and how much was saved in the country's budget after the reform of the Army. Although in some of his articles he gave a large list of closed establishments, he did not indicate what huge sums were spent on their maintenance. It was not stupidity and not someone's whim, it was an urgent need. And this issue was resolved at the level of the government and the head of the country! Serdyukov was only a performer. Maybe it’s enough to slander Serdyukov already, but to name the true culprits of the collapse of the country and, as a result, the forced reforms in the Army - the CPSU
    1. 0
      April 9 2023 00: 16
      Do you blame the CPSU for the current collapse of the army? The USSR left everything as a legacy so that the country could be raised, colossal resources and technologies. 30 years have already passed since the USSR was gone.
      China's GDP in 1990 - 360 billion dollars, in 2022 - 16 trillion dollars.
      What questions can there be, what can be done in 30 years? Ukraine had enough to build an army for 8 years.

      Pysy Serdyukov is the only one who updated the army, without him the army would never have seen mrapa
      1. -2
        April 9 2023 10: 26
        I blame the CPSU for the collapse of the state - the USSR and, as a result, the collapse of the Army. The state maintains the Army and not the Army the state. It took Ukraine 8 years to build an army, and one year was enough for Russia's limited troops to destroy almost all Soviet weapons of this army. And now calculate how much was and was destroyed in a year and how much weapons the West will supply and in how many weeks these supplies will be destroyed!
    2. +2
      April 11 2023 23: 50
      As the great Lenin said:

      Politics is the concentrated expression of economics.

      And if there is no economy, then there is no full-fledged army, or then the people are in poverty. Putin's fault is that after the Munich speech, he did not seriously take up industry and the army. Here we unravel.
    3. 0
      April 13 2023 12: 00
      Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
      Another nonsense as a continuation of the myth about the collapse of the Army by Serdyukov! For how long will this rubbish dump be poured on Serdyukov? The author, why are you deceiving members of the forum and turning everything from a sick head to a healthy one? What does it give you? Self-satisfaction? Write the truth AT LEAST ONCE!!! That all the events took place in the world during a period of warming of the international situation and partial disarmament! That this was the first call that unambiguously indicated that the arms race imposed by the USSR by the West was simply destroying the country's economy, and if this continued, the population would soon have nothing to eat! And at the head of this race, however strange it may seem, was our Central Committee of the CPSU. Therefore, in order to stop this suicidal race, it was necessary to deprive the communists of the administrative role, it seems, Article 6 of the Constitution. At that time, the maintenance of the Army was already an unbearable burden for the country's budget! Even the withdrawal of troops from the GDR could no longer be of decisive importance. It was necessary to reduce everything that was not critical at that time and not replenish the budget and not deplete it with unnecessary expenses. Now is the time for the author to imagine how much the Army ate up finances in peacetime and how much was saved in the country's budget after the reform of the Army. Although in some of his articles he gave a large list of closed establishments, he did not indicate what huge sums were spent on their maintenance. It was not stupidity and not someone's whim, it was an urgent need. And this issue was resolved at the level of the government and the head of the country! Serdyukov was only a performer. Maybe it’s enough to slander Serdyukov already, but to name the true culprits of the collapse of the country and, as a result, the forced reforms in the Army - the CPSU

      Golden words Oleg Georgievich, and they gave you three minuses for them. If you tell the truth, you will lose your friendship. And from me you have a plus, a big plus. I fully support and expect cons.