A trainload of reactivated T-55 tanks spotted in Russia

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The Russian Defense Ministry continues to print out Soviet arsenals. In the vastness of Russia, a train with T-55 tanks, which were produced in the middle of the last century, was noticed. Less than a month ago, eyewitnesses caught a frame with BTR-50P armored personnel carriers of similar years of production.

It is unlikely that T-55s will hit the front line in the NVO zone. These tanks have almost no chance to resist Javelins and NLAW. With the benefit of the case, they can be used as fire support weapons from closed stationary positions. This will allow less intensive use of new T-90 tanks as artillery support.



Earlier, we already wrote about a large transfer of multi-purpose lightly armored tractors MT-LB with installed ship turrets to the NVO zone. Despite the somewhat awkward appearance, such machines can be found application at the front.

In fairness, we note that so far there has been no evidence of the use of MT-LB or BTR-50 in the combat zone. Perhaps they were placed deep in the rear to prevent incidents similar to the raid of the enemy DRG in the Bryansk region. One way or another, the appearance in the second year of the special operation of echelons with reactivated technique last century is, to put it mildly, surprising.
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  1. +15
    22 March 2023 16: 01
    One way or another, the appearance in the second year of the special operation of echelons with reactivated equipment of the last century is, to put it mildly, surprising.

    - what's the surprise?
    1. -3
      23 March 2023 08: 24
      Well done! Our cool military leaders are well-camouflaged "Armata"!
      1. +5
        23 March 2023 12: 42
        Your humor is on point, but as they say:

        on lack of fish and cancer fish.

        But in fact, it is quite possible to use the T-55 as firing points in the construction of defense lines, and if you arrange caponiers with a reinforced concrete coating, such firing points become sufficiently protected, no longer joking, but quite suitable for combat. According to history, in the Far East, IS-3s were exhibited at the borders and for a long time served as powerful firing points even in the 70s.
    2. -1
      23 March 2023 19: 51
      Yes, why be surprised!? After all, everything is according to plan! And the plan is cunning to improbability, no one can understand it belay What will be the next move or gesture!? What else will surprise him!? Yes, it shouldn't be like that, BUT .... voila!!! fellow r / s Is there another T-34, are you interested? bully
      1. -1
        23 March 2023 23: 04
        Or maybe the Moscow Region is moving the T-55, for cover? The Defense Ministry will move the echelon from the T-55 so that everyone is filming, and then everything will be distributed over the Internet. to confuse us and NATO
  2. +6
    22 March 2023 16: 02
    in theory, what is the difference under the protection of concrete will be t90 or t55. but the t90 will come in handy elsewhere.
    Well, it also suggests that there will be a war with NATO immediately with nuclear weapons, since there will be no armored vehicles
  3. -10
    22 March 2023 16: 11
    and we were perplexed by the commentators who talked about the return of the t-34 from Laos ... p.s. Surprisingly, in 1941 in a year we were able to increase the production of tanks, and now we can’t do anything, it remains to surrender - to save the lives of the fighters!
    1. +7
      23 March 2023 06: 16
      So where does this logic come from? Firstly, we can increase, but this will require sacrificing something (guess for yourself). Secondly, to increase the production of T-34 and increase the production of T-90, as they say in Odessa ... two big differences. War is expensive these days. And thirdly, if there are reserves (tanks) and they can be used as mobile short-range guns, why not do this?
      1. +3
        23 March 2023 08: 04
        I wish such commentators to become the operator of such a weapon if you get to the front
        1. -7
          23 March 2023 11: 18
          Quote from Muscool
          I wish such commentators to become the operator of such a weapon if you get to the front

          and such commentators can only act as xperds, maybe they can put their children in the T-55, then the opinion will change?
  4. +14
    22 March 2023 16: 20
    In the USSR, only t72 during the years of production, about 20 were produced. This is not counting the t000 and t64.
    It is clear that some remained in the republics, but nevertheless ...

    But they were very proud of their place among the leading arms exporters in the world.
    And now we are driving into the war zone what, probably, no one wanted to buy.
  5. +14
    22 March 2023 16: 31
    This is our formidable response to adversaries for the supply of Leopards, Challengers and Abrams.
    Tremble NATO.
    It would be better if they made Solntsekov on the basis of old tanks. They are more relevant in defense.
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  7. -14
    22 March 2023 16: 46
    Our command knows better what and how to do, and the opinion of these "strategists" ....


    We are not interested.
  8. +3
    22 March 2023 16: 57
    Question.
    What to do with old tanks and armored personnel carriers? If they were stored in warehouses for 50 years, now it is somehow stupid to send them for remelting. It is also foolish to continue to keep them any longer.
    Yes, they do not meet the modern realities of combat. But maybe they can be used as it is written in the article?
    NATO sends Leopards to Ukraine that are over 50 years old. Disposal of old weapons. Or, speaking in liberal economic language, "the capitalization of old weapons" is taking place.
    1. +9
      22 March 2023 17: 05
      if the T55 were at least converted into "drones", it would still make sense, but inside the crew - 4 people, 4 of our people, 4 of our fighters !!!
      1. +5
        22 March 2023 17: 14
        There are thousands of soldiers at the front. Using T-55s as firing points is better than putting fighters in trenches. Yes, and the firepower of such a point is higher.
        It is probably possible to convert it into drones. Moreover, such technology already exists. But how many such drones are there in the army?
        1. +3
          22 March 2023 21: 23
          All such stationary firing points will be easily destroyed along with the crews, of course, this is a disaster if we don’t have better tanks sad
          1. +5
            23 March 2023 11: 06
            Why stationary? Now the scheme "special forces group on aiming and adjustment and 2 - 3 tanks in closed positions" is used. Closed - does not mean stationary. On the contrary, one fired 2-3-4 shots and quickly changed positions. Closed means "out of line of sight".
            The armor of these tanks is much better than modern self-propelled guns. Walkability is better. Of course, it is desirable to install modern equipment.
            It is necessary to compare not with other tanks, but with the D 30. This is not a replacement for tanks and not even self-propelled guns, but for stationary guns.
            He fired - and quickly darted a couple of kilometers into the woods. Then another shoots.
        2. -1
          22 March 2023 22: 28
          The time has not come for such "drones"! As a certain villain in the "Velvet Season" f.o. said...: "If you collect 9 pregnant women, then the child will still not be born in a month! The idea must mature!"... The same the most must be said about technology! Technology must mature!
          1. +1
            23 March 2023 01: 52
            This villain is from the movie Dead Season.
        3. +1
          22 March 2023 22: 28
          The time has not come for such "drones"! As a certain villain in the "Velvet Season" f.o. said...: "If you collect 9 pregnant women, then the child will still not be born in a month! The idea must mature!"... The same the most must be said about technology! Technology must mature!
      2. +6
        23 March 2023 07: 19
        Quote: Vladimir80
        if the T55 were at least converted into "drones", it would still make sense, but inside the crew - 4 people, 4 of our people, 4 of our fighters !!!

        Unfortunately yes!
        I would look at the muzzles of those who are telling here that this old equipment should be disposed of on the battlefield, and it would be interesting what such a talker would think or say when the commander leads him past the t-72, t-80, t-90 and puts him on recycling in t-55.
        You don’t need to tryndet a big mind, but to sit in a T-55 or go to shoot at a training ground with a 70g grenade launcher, when before that the boys’ hands or fingers were torn off, it’s not up to blah blah blah about disposal.
        All this happens because there is nothing modern, it is impossible to increase production, or it is done with great difficulty. But thanks to the Soviet Union, Soviet weapons, which are more than 50-70 years old, and which have been made so much that in the 21st century, 70 years later, we fight with them and not concepts.
    2. +2
      23 March 2023 08: 07
      Smelt it into metal and make something more modern out of it.
      Let's dig a moat again, fill it with water and let the crocodiles go, but stick it with a picket fence?
    3. +4
      23 March 2023 09: 42
      Agree. Such equipment is not pulled out of a good life. It is impossible to quickly increase the production of new tanks and aircraft (I mean a multiple increase). Here they take out the old. There is nothing to fight at the front
    4. -1
      23 March 2023 11: 27
      The photo shows T62, not T 55. See my comment below.
      1. +1
        24 March 2023 09: 36
        This is definitely not the T-62, because. the barrel does not have an ejector, and between the first and second road wheels there is a gap characteristic of the T-54 and T-55, the T-62 does not have such a gap between the rollers.
    5. -1
      23 March 2023 15: 53
      All countries participating in the Ukrainian mess are replacing their old weapons .... Countries that were former members of the Warsaw Pact are changing their old Soviet military equipment. USA, France, Germany, UK, etc. change their old military equipment. And we will start pretending to be innocent and gasp, oh, how can you use the T-55, oh, it's so old, oh, it's not comme il faut. Respect to Bakhtiyar, who, without emotions, sensibly and thoroughly substantiated in his commentary the use of the T-55 in the NWO ....
      1. +2
        23 March 2023 20: 49
        All countries "participating in the Ukrainian mess" dispose of their junk with Ukrainian crews, and we - with our Russian ones. That's the whole difference. Well, "Leopard 1" is of course junk, but it is comparable to the early T-72s, but by no means with the T-55s.
  9. -3
    22 March 2023 19: 31
    What are you, right?
    These are well-camouflaged "Armata" !!
    1. +3
      22 March 2023 21: 40
      Would you like to joke? It would be funny if it weren't so sad. SVO will continue for a long time. This is sad. To put it mildly.
      1. +1
        23 March 2023 20: 51
        How long? After the T-55, some more T-34s will be scraped up, removed from the pedestals, and then - that's all.
  10. 0
    22 March 2023 19: 44
    actual t-shirt
  11. +8
    22 March 2023 20: 49
    Quote: Bakht
    There are thousands of soldiers at the front. Using T-55s as firing points is better than putting fighters in trenches.

    Nobody argues that it's better than nothing.
    The question is that it is worse than t72 and beyond.
    As for the "firing points" and the "second line" - that's all nonsense. For a conditional colonel, these are TANKS! This means that he will use them as TANKS, and not as some kind of support tool.
    And not because the colonel is so stupid, but because in the tank battalion of his motorized rifle regiment there will be not T90 or T72, but T55. And there won't be others.
    It won’t be because if there were enough t72s for all motorized rifle regiments, no one would drive t62s or t55s to the front.
    Or does someone seriously believe that in addition to the regular t72 battalion, an additional t55 battalion will be added to the conditional motorized rifle regiment?
    Yes. Certainly. Probably in order to additionally "love" with spare parts, crews (both the composition and training are different there) and the range of ammunition ...

    Not to mention that as a means of art support for howitzers:
    1. Cheaper.
    2. Work from a greater distance.
    3. They have many times more resource.
    1. +5
      23 March 2023 08: 09
      Yes, these Goonies even piss in the eyes, everything is God's dew.
  12. +13
    22 March 2023 21: 46
    Well, they have been waiting for a year for the appearance of Armat at the front, and 55 tons are coming ... As Shoigu reported three years ago, 70% of new weapons in the army))
    1. +5
      23 March 2023 04: 59
      It was 70%, but Putin’s degenerals simply missed ... a year ago, in these crazy columns near Kharkov and Kiev, who shot Khokhlyat ambushes and artillery with impunity ...
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  14. +3
    22 March 2023 23: 16
    A perfectly reasonable decision. Using them as firing points from indirect positions is much better than using classic cannons. The armor of these tanks even protects against fragments of heavy shells, on the other hand, there are a lot of shells in the warehouses for the guns of these tanks and the mobility of these tanks is very high. Most likely, it will be necessary to significantly modernize the fire control system, but I do not think that this is a big problem.
    1. +7
      23 March 2023 05: 02
      We need all those who consider it "quite reasonable" and the right decision to assemble, equip these T-54/55s with them and put them on the second line of defense. Where will you meet Abrams and leopards with "ambush fire" when they enter the breakthrough .. ..
      1. -7
        23 March 2023 11: 23
        Quote from Danil P.
        We need all those who consider it "quite reasonable" and the right decision to assemble, equip these T-54/55s with them and put them on the second line of defense. Where will you meet Abrams and leopards with "ambush fire" when they enter the breakthrough .. ..

        there is a better solution, put their children in these tanks, then we'll see how they sing
    2. +2
      23 March 2023 21: 02
      there are a lot of shells in warehouses for the guns of these tanks

      And what years of production are these shells? No matter how they pose a greater threat to their crews than to the enemy.

      Most likely, it will be necessary to significantly modernize the fire control system, but I do not think that this is a big problem.

      Are you kidding or just being naive? Now sights and other equipment for new tanks cannot be produced in the required quantity and even maintain the previously achieved technological level (there were too many foreign components, and the machine park is generally all imported, and it quickly fails, deprived of the possibility of maintenance and repair), so no one will modernize this junk at all - there is no one, nothing, and there is no time already.
      1. -1
        24 March 2023 19: 29
        Quote: UAZ 452
        there are a lot of shells in warehouses for the guns of these tanks

        And what years of production are these shells? No matter how they pose a greater threat to their crews than to the enemy.

        Most likely, it will be necessary to significantly modernize the fire control system, but I do not think that this is a big problem.

        Are you kidding or just being naive? Now sights and other equipment for new tanks cannot be produced in the required quantity and even maintain the previously achieved technological level (there were too many foreign components, and the machine park is generally all imported, and it quickly fails, deprived of the possibility of maintenance and repair), so no one will modernize this junk at all - there is no one, nothing, and there is no time already.

        Where do you get all this alarmist information from, and even with such aplomb, as if you were standing next to a candle .. Everything is fine with the production of a modern fire system for modernized tanks. For consumer goods, as a rule, foreign microcircuits were really used (there are no big problems with them either), and the main factories of the military-industrial complex have long been using something with which there are no problems by definition. I am a tanker myself. The cannon of this tank is very accurate and the ammunition is such that even the Leopard will not find it enough. But these machines are not for duels with Leopards, but for defeating the enemy from closed positions at a distance of up to 8 km. Only this gun, unlike the same "Rapier", is much better protected and much more mobile at times ..
  15. +3
    23 March 2023 00: 30
    Why else keep them? They can serve as self-propelled artillery. Provide communications, some kind of body kit, guidance tools and forward. They will still succeed in melting down. But Armata and the T-90 also need it. Correct solution.
    1. +11
      23 March 2023 01: 55
      Armats are probably preparing for the parade.
  16. +4
    23 March 2023 05: 48
    I hope everyone now understands the business model?
  17. 0
    23 March 2023 06: 49
    Or maybe newer equipment is in reserve. Nobody thought that we still had a bunch of old idiots across the ocean dreaming of fighting as a whole bloc against Russia. The threat of NATO invasion along the entire front has not disappeared. And new tanks must be kept for new enemies.
    1. +3
      23 March 2023 10: 29
      new tanks must be kept for new enemies

      I’ll upset you, a handful of new tanks and conditionally new aircraft, with a real war with NATO, it will end on the first day ... even the mighty USSR understood that without ya.o. We can't deal with NATO!
  18. -1
    23 March 2023 07: 30
    What exactly is the confusion? If there is a pack of old tanks that can be used as firing points, then why use new vehicles for this purpose that can come in handy in the event of a collision with NATO? What is abnormal that t55 from caponier will be used against the under-army, 10 kilometers away? After all, the engine life of tanks is not very large, but 55kA is much simpler and more maintainable than more modern vehicles. And the cost of the machine itself is incomparable with current samples today.
    1. +3
      23 March 2023 08: 10
      which can be used as firing points

      Yes, who told you this? Personally "foreman"? Or this, like him, "blah-blah-blah" Konashenkov? Disappointing - you've been scammed...
      Don't worry - not only you are being "deceived", moreover, regularly...
    2. +1
      23 March 2023 21: 05
      Excuse me, just in case I'll clarify: by "underarmy" who do you mean?
  19. +1
    23 March 2023 07: 44
    tank confrontations in the Donbass are extremely rare and isolated, but the use of tanks like mobile artillery for attack aircraft is the opposite, so normal
    1. +3
      23 March 2023 10: 26
      tank confrontations in the Donbass are extremely rare

      of course they are rare, because even the T90 is not protected from being hit by modern NATO anti-aircraft guns, and taking into account the number of anti-tank guns, the Ukrainians need to come up with a new tactic for using tanks ...
  20. +2
    23 March 2023 08: 21
    The problem is apparently not in tanks, but in shell hunger ...
    Shells to 100 mm at least eat booty.
    1. +5
      23 March 2023 10: 24
      Shells to 100 mm at least eat booty.

      and when they run out, they will give out 5.45 cartridges in a box - like "there are still a lot of them"
  21. 0
    23 March 2023 08: 35
    Please provide geolocation.
  22. 0
    23 March 2023 08: 36
    They are taking them to Omsk on a campaign. They will make BTR-T out of them. He's just on the basis of the T-55
  23. +4
    23 March 2023 09: 01
    And how do you say now to look at the front armats, after this wonderful news?
  24. +2
    23 March 2023 09: 59
    Thanks to the USSR, otherwise what would be the fight now? Business is somehow not in a hurry to provide SVO. And there are a lot of newer ones only on TV.
    1. +3
      23 March 2023 10: 35
      A business cannot provide what is not asked of it.
      I have no doubt that, for example, individual first-aid kits of good quality, a business can make and offer in large quantities for the army. Does the army ask for this? It only says that everything is there, everything is in abundance and according to plan.
      For example, 500 first-aid kits of 000k rubles each is 10 billion rubles. You don’t need to conduct a tank biathlon just once.
      The business will give everything, give him only a task and some money. He simply doesn’t hold parades, but leave the money for the right
  25. +1
    23 March 2023 10: 16
    T72 all sold, went for spare parts and upgrades for sale.
    Therefore, trash that is 60 years old goes into battle.
    Are you seriously writing about firing points and so on?

    It would be relevant to develop a tower with ptura, some analogue of storm1s or whatever, which is on a motorcycle league.

    But we understand that the old generals do not have the concept of modern warfare. The main thing for them is more tanks, infantry and strikes to the squares.

    The army is in the deepest crisis, and not only technically, but also personnel. There are simply no adequate people.
    The tanks will go into battle, there is no doubt. These are not firing points. It's scary for those who will be put there, without a chance.

    The people who justify this, are you serious? You are smart patriots, what do you want the soldiers to fight on such a thing. Considering that even T90 birds are destroyed there. Are you sure you are patriots of Russia?
  26. 0
    23 March 2023 10: 41
    Not a bad idea without any irony. By the way, the T55 has a rifled gun and a firing range of up to 14,5 km. He will fire with almost impunity, since mortars can no longer reach him and he can change his location instantly. Yes, and the upcoming nonsense he has something to meet, if anything))
    1. +4
      23 March 2023 10: 44
      IN HOW, but how will you shoot at such a distance without a modern SLA?
      1. +1
        23 March 2023 11: 27
        Is there no way to install?
  27. -1
    23 March 2023 11: 25
    It's fake. In the photo - T 62.
    The gun on the T55 looks different. But the most important thing is that the T55 has a gap between the first and second rollers, and the T 62 has a gap between the fourth and fifth.
    So everyone can calm down. They haven’t reached the T 55 yet, there are still enough T62s for modernization. And the photo is most likely last year, when the noise around them rose.
    1. +1
      24 March 2023 09: 43
      Now only you are fake (not hitting), because in the photo there is a gap between the first and second rollers, because the tank turret is turned back, while the T-62 has the same distance between all road wheels, i.e. there is no such gap. And yes, the T-62 gun has an injector, the tank in the photo does not.
  28. 0
    23 March 2023 11: 26
    And the fact that the UAZ was seen? KAMAZ? BTR-50 equipment is not for a breakthrough, but for moving cargo off-road, especially floating. Or do you need a 70 ton armored personnel carrier? As the article is not about anything. Recently Shilka was shown and that, it is quite possible to find application. You can also show a fighter with an ax, such as the 21st century, and argue that the ax of the beginning of the century. There doesn't seem to be a job for it.
  29. +1
    23 March 2023 11: 35
    Any weapon, it doesn't matter if it's old or new, right!!! applied, it is a real threat. Use everything you can? Why not? The same machine gun "Maxim", the disadvantage of which, weight and limited mobility, but placed in a convenient position, with a rate of fire of 600 rpm and as long as there is water, can create serious problems for the infantry ... the main condition is the surprise of use and quick evacuation in the first place of calculation . This is not a recommendation - just personal thoughts in the ear, no claims.
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  30. 0
    23 March 2023 11: 53
    And for me it's all right. Old tanks are then put into storage for a rainy day. War is always a "rainy day". If there is a way to put old tanks to good use, then why not?
    I am not saying that they should be used as for their primary purpose - i.e. in the form of tanks. From it is quite possible to use as a self-propelled gun to support the infantry.
    Are you surprised by the use of the BMP-3? This infantry fighting vehicle is considered to be the best in our country, and they don’t consider it bad in the world either. But his armor is much worse than that of the T-55. And the HE shells of these guns are approximately the same in terms of their effect on infantry, etc.
    So why not use them, these tanks, from the second line?
    Make an easy upgrade and go!
    The world is still full of light tanks with a 100 mm cannon, tracked or wheeled, they drive and shoot normally.
    Yes, basically they are perceived as reconnaissance, auxiliary or defense, not the main ones. This is how to apply them.

    P.S. Who does not know by chance, then I want to inform you with an interesting fact. The gun on the T-62 (115 mm) is an adapted launch from the T-55, from which the rifling for firing feathered projectiles was removed. Those. they are roughly the same guns.
    The presence of the T-62 does not bother anyone, right?
    1. +2
      23 March 2023 12: 24
      The world is still full of light tanks with a 100 mm cannon, they drive and shoot normally.

      it would be very interesting to read about their successful (!) Combat use at the present time (or at least in the past 20 years)
  31. 0
    23 March 2023 12: 06
    The T-55 is a fast, well-armoured, 100mm gun capable of hitting all targets in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, except for tanks.

    Every infantryman, every crew of an armored personnel carrier or infantry fighting vehicle, Tigers, etc., will be happy if there is a T-55 nearby (maybe not as happy as the presence of the T-90M). The difference between the T-55 and "no tank support" is very big.

    It is not clear how they will be used, by entire units or will be given to other units as reinforcement.

    Between the BMP-3 and the T-55 there is unification in terms of ammunition, in any case, for the sub-caliber ZBM-25.
    1. -9
      23 March 2023 12: 58
      Hm. It's funny to read such comments where frank junk is presented as "still quite normal", "in capable hands, it will show itself", "better than nothing", "good firing point", "support tool", etc. I think those who does it really write .... or just "alternatively gifted" thinking in terms of the wars of the 20th century? Now the main trend on the battlefield is "real-time situational awareness". What kind of "situational awareness in real time" can the crew of an iron box, released in the 50-60s of the last century, equipped only with a transceiver radio station and primitive sights? At the level of the same century, that is, not far removed from the level of the Great Patriotic War. If we talk about firing from such a "firing point", then it will only be able to shoot "direct fire" and up to the first "Javelin" since it will be within sight of the enemy. Well, and thirdly, for those who are going to use "it" as a weapon of fire support, the question is, what is the integration of this junk into the systems of the network-centric battlefield, what is its integration into the information battlefield? How will this "firing point" receive target designation, calculate its strike on a modern battlefield saturated with various types of anti-tank guns, drones, cluster munitions, mines, anti-martial rifles, etc. when it only has a walkie-talkie and sights only for direct fire and a primitive panorama for shooting from closed positions? In the old fashioned way, as during the Second World War: "First, first, do you see that building over there, near the car burning at the crossroads? From there, a machine gun fires - give two shells to the second floor."?
      1. 0
        23 March 2023 13: 36
        Don't bother them, these and T44s will tell you that it's a good tank in 2023. They really don't want to fight on it, but who cares.
        The funny thing is that they shout about the fact that there are a lot of shells for data, so you need to use it.
        And the fact that these shells are 60 years old, everything was stored in bad conditions, and the fact that you can’t take these shells anywhere else when they run out. Apparently they will uncover the T44, because there are also shells for the gun, although there also seems to be the same tool
        1. 0
          23 March 2023 15: 07
          There were plenty of experts, minusers. At least for starters, you will learn to distinguish 55/54 from 62. And then the arguments turned around. Somehow I was on one site of the same experts, there such heart-to-heart conversations were held about the tactics of using tanks during WWII, you’ll tremble. And the Germans must be respected, they, you see, were simply doing their duty. And what heroic tankers they had. Well, ours is like that, rabble by rabble, filled them with iron and corpses. And then one of the chiefs / experts asked a question: what is the driving wheel on the T-34? Something immediately the level of these experts fell below the plinth, dumped from there right away.
  32. -1
    23 March 2023 12: 50
    Actually, it's 62. This is how bullshit is born. In the original video, some woman takes pictures and gives comments. You can see a big connoisseur of BTT. And you, citizens, immediately fell for it. Now where else will the thread of 34s be removed, which they are taking to Alabino for the parade, that will be a commotion.
  33. +1
    23 March 2023 13: 14
    Any self-propelled gun is a help to the front.
    And then there's plenty of ammunition.
  34. +1
    23 March 2023 15: 02
    And what did you want. new equipment in parades will be needed. To the front according to the residual principle. On you God. that the parade is not good.
  35. +1
    23 March 2023 15: 08
    "And here are our coffins!" - someone in front said loudly and cheerfully.
    “Look what they give us,” Guy said. “Pre-war tanks, imperial rubbish, tin cans… Listen, Mack, are we going to die here? After all, this is true death ...

    "Inhabited Island"
  36. 0
    23 March 2023 15: 27
    Nails can also be hammered with an old hammer!
  37. -1
    23 March 2023 15: 43
    Yesterday this echelon traveled through Ukraine, now through Russia...
  38. +2
    23 March 2023 16: 35
    I read the comments, in fact there is nothing to add comments - you will download with pleasure twice re-read it. But the question comes through, or even directly asks: why did all this begin if: the losses of armored vehicles are huge, and this is with a zero result, aviation on the ground (140 sorties per day per 1000 km of front), Flagship of the World Cup fleet cruiser Moscow at the bottom, infantry ? pity the infantry. So why fight? Did not understand the real combat capability of the army? And it was. Did you think that at least half of Ukrainians yearn for the arrival of Russia, groaning under the yoke of Bandera? And it was, but this is not the main thing, I really wanted to appear before the elections and before history as the unifier of the Russian lands! And the instrument should not be the army, but a palace coup, the army was only supposed to provide moral support to the conspirators. But the coup failed, the Americans outplayed us and the whole idea turned out to be a gamble with strategically nightmarish consequences.
    1. +2
      23 March 2023 17: 10
      Quote from Pembo
      the coup failed, the Americans outplayed us

      About "outplayed" - if only in a global sense.
      The West/Europe is more attractive to the layman than the N/A of Russia.
      And in order to beat the West, you need to develop your cities / roads / economy, and not suffer from the geopolitics of the brain.
      Well, within a reasonable framework, show that development, and not frighten Euro-gays.
      And then we even like patriots are sure that NOTHING is being done in the country.
  39. +1
    23 March 2023 19: 17
    And our supreme one claims that under the USSR only galoshes were able to make ...
    But without these "Soviet galoshes" he himself, like Milosevic, would have been put in a cage in The Hague a long time ago ....
    Most of the new weapons that the media shouted about as "unparalleled" turned out to be either not very effective or pieced exhibition and ceremonial samples, it is not yet possible to evaluate the capabilities of which ....
    The cry was worth a ruble, but the real deeds turned out to be worth a penny ...
    Vanguard two regiments (12 units)
    Zircons on only two frigates
    Su-57 less than one squadron
    Almaty - for one battalion
    Coalitions and even less
    There are no boomerangs
    There are no Kurgans
    No barberries either.
    Tornado-S - per brigade
    and this is all that was done in 22 years of "a bright real one without galoshes ..."
  40. 0
    23 March 2023 23: 35
    The T55 is the best tank with a real rifled gun, only they need to be made from a stove with modern rolled armor and a container behind the turret. Bmp3 is 10 times cheaper
  41. +2
    24 March 2023 07: 27
    If used wisely, and not to break through (read for slaughter), everything is better than a regular shooting battle. But again, the question is the number of crews, training ... In addition, the question is: where did the several echelons with 72, who were very fond of photographing at the parking lot in Crimea, disappeared?
    1. 0
      24 March 2023 14: 51
      Quote: Saffron
      where did a few echelons with 72s go, who were very fond of photographing in the parking lot in Crimea, caring citizens?

      They are probably guarding the north of the Crimean peninsula from a possible breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye direction ...
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  43. -1
    24 March 2023 11: 40
    Let's crush Leopards.
  44. -1
    24 March 2023 13: 20
    Hope they come in handy. Including + 1500 new T-90s. Gerasimov is a Suvorovite, a literate man. For victory! For united Rus'!
  45. 0
    24 March 2023 15: 02
    To put an automatic 55A2 on the T-42 "riding" a tank gun and cover it from the front and sides with an armored shield., It would turn out to be an excellent destroyer of infantry, shahidmobiles and light armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Yes, and to demolish all the sights from the tower of the Tigers and Abrams will also work if you shoot from an ambush in a long burst.
  46. +1
    24 March 2023 15: 21
    From what positions should they be used? The range of an aimed shot for the T-55 at a target 2m high is 1080 meters.
  47. -1
    24 March 2023 16: 18
    If there is an EMP apocalypse, then only equipment without electronics will remain in service.
    If this is an old tank, then this is the best for clearing territories when attacking together with infantry, because. infantry with a modern tank cannot go: if KAZ works, it will be very unpleasant for the infantry!
  48. 0
    25 March 2023 22: 22
    The main thing is not which tank, but how to shoot from it! Well, a disguise is necessary by itself.