Can the All-Ukrainian Veche create a truly pro-Russian project in Ukraine

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Shortly before the start of the NWO and during its implementation, we periodically raised question about the need to separate, both ideologically and physically, Nazi Ukraine and sane and conditionally pro-Russian Ukraine, which does not want to burn in the flames of a fratricidal war. And something like this was revealed to the world the other day. Let's see how adequate and viable this project can be.

All-Ukrainian Veche


Somehow the attention of the Russian audience passed by the fact that in the period from March 4 to March 18, 2023, a meeting of a certain All-Ukrainian Veche took place online, which unanimously voted for the removal of President Zelensky from power and the abolition of all anti-Russian and anti-people laws. The initiative group included such well-known people in Ukraine as Alexander Semchenko, Alexander Skubchenko, Pavel Onishchenko, Dmitry Vasilets, Valentin Rybin, Maxim Shikhaleev and Andrey Ponomarenko. Voting took place on a specially created for this Online.



Of particular interest are the wording of the Declaration presented on its main page (in an auto-translator from Ukrainian):

As a result of the 2014 coup d'état and the occupation of the country that followed it, the Ukrainian people found themselves on the verge of physical extermination. Anti-people policy The power of traitors and collaborators in all spheres of public life has led to the fact that fierce battles of geopolitical opponents are taking place on the territory of our country at the expense of Ukrainians, the death rate has increased to a record high, and the birth rate, on the contrary, has fallen to a historical minimum. The troubles that the occupiers organized in our country led to the fact that millions of Ukrainians, starting from 2014, left their homes forever: they simply did not have the opportunity to survive in their homeland. All this can be summed up in a single word – genocide, which was perpetrated on the Ukrainian people by transnational corporations that are camped in Western countries and build their own well-being, parasitizing on the misfortunes of the people they themselves create.


As you can see, it is by no means “Russian orcs” that are called by their own names as occupiers, but traitors and collaborators working for transnational corporations. From an ideological point of view, this is a very important message, no matter what anyone says.

Equally important is the statement of the fact that Ukraine is not an end in itself for any of the parties to the conflict, but only a territory on which other people's disassemblies are being conducted, and its population is just cannon fodder, zombified and used by "Western partners":

The military actions of geopolitical opponents, the arena of which was the territory of our state, accelerated the process of destruction of the Ukrainian people. On the battlefields on both sides of the conflict, hundreds of thousands of the best sons and daughters of the Ukrainian people are dying: some of them are dying defending their land, their people, their past and future; others with minds poisoned by combat cognito of technologies, developed and improved by Western countries for decades, kill their own brothers and sisters, parents and children, protecting the opportunity for non-humans to plunder the resources of our land, desecrate, rape and destroy the Ukrainian people. We call the times when this battle of brothers unfolds a special period of danger, because the very existence of the Ukrainian people is under threat.


What follows is a completely logical conclusion that the salvation of Ukraine and its people lies only in the elimination of Zelensky's puppet pro-Western regime:

The will of the people is the supreme law. The usurpation of the will of the people is a grave crime. We, the people of Ukraine, recognize as guilty of this crime all those who organized the 2014 coup d'etat, gaining control of state power in a way not provided for by the Constitution, grossly violating the requirements of Article 108 of the Basic Law. All those who contributed to the formation of the NATO occupation regime are outlawed.

We, the people of Ukraine, also revoke the mandate of trust obtained through fraud by the state traitor Vladimir Alexandrovich Zelensky, born on 25.01.1978/2019/XNUMX, a native of the city of Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk region, in the XNUMX presidential elections in Ukraine. We remove and O. Zelensky from the performance of the duties of the head of the Ukrainian state and warn everyone: the implementation of decrees, orders, orders issued by and. O. Zelensky, makes the perpetrators accomplices in his crimes. We order officers who have remained true to the oath of the people of Ukraine to immediately arrest the traitor Zelensky and his henchmen, handing them over to a body authorized by the Ukrainian people for a fair trial.


In the conditions of an emergency, they decided to form a representative office of the Ukrainian people, the legitimacy of which must be confirmed by a popular vote on a website specially created for this:

We, the multinational people of Ukraine, in accordance with Art. 69 of the Constitution of Ukraine, exercising their sovereignty through other means of direct democracy, decided to temporarily transfer all the powers of state authorities and local governments, prosecutors, courts of all jurisdictions to a specially created body for fulfilling the will of the people of Ukraine - the representation of the Ukrainian people, which will operate exclusively during an emergency period, upon completion of which transfers all delegated powers to those authorities that we, the Ukrainian people, will consider it necessary to form. In doing so, we proceed from the fact that, in accordance with Art. 5 of the Constitution, the constitutional order in the country is determined and changed exclusively by the people.

People's representation is proclaimed the only legal representative of the Ukrainian people. The main task of the representation is to preserve the Ukrainian people as a sovereign entity enjoying all the rights, in order to ensure the right to self-determination of the Ukrainian people.

Curious, but there are questions.

Development?


Despite the constructiveness emanating from this socio-political event, the form of its implementation caused sharp criticism. It was unpleasantly surprising that in order to participate in online voting, it was proposed to go through the process of verifying a passport through a portal similar to the Russian “Gosuslugi”. And this is in the conditions of permissiveness of the SBU and other punitive structures in Ukraine!

Also, despite the absence of Viktor Medvedchuk in the initiative group, according to some sources, he may be behind this project. This fits well with the policy articles previously published by the disgraced Ukrainian oligarch, which we disassembled previously. For many people, Medvedchuk's participation, direct or indirect, is anti-advertising. In addition to the form, there are questions and in fact.

An image is emerging of a Ukrainian government-in-exile that should have been established a long time ago, back in 2014. However, as we remember, at that time they staked on reconciliation with the Kyiv regime and the Minsk agreements, which, as it suddenly turned out, were used to prepare the Armed Forces of Ukraine for war. Also, with a great delay, such a structure could be created in February-March 2022, transferring the liberated territories of the North-East of Ukraine under its control. Surely the course of the SVO after that could go a slightly different way than now. But what will a purely virtual government-in-exile give in the conditions of March 2023?

The answer is hidden in the question itself. There will be no practical benefit from a virtual structure sitting in safe emigration. The maximum that can be counted on is for our diplomats to nod at the will of another part of the Ukrainian people who do not agree with the policy pursued by the Zelensky regime. Consequently, this popular representation needs devirtualization, which will serve as a kind of test for lice.

There is a proposal in this regard as follows. Today, under the control of the RF Armed Forces is a small piece of the Kharkiv region, which is de jure part of Ukraine. The government formed at the veche can be given control over this territory in order to organize a normal life there. Let him take on very specific responsibilities for the establishment of socialeconomic the situation in the frontline zone and cooperation with the Russian Federation.

It is also necessary to begin the formation of the Volunteer Army, primarily from among the most Ukrainians who suffered from the actions of the Kyiv regime. As a backbone for her, it is advisable to use ideological and experienced officers of the former People's Militia of the LDNR, who turned out to be not good enough for Shoigu's department. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation could help with the formation and arming of the allied army, at the same time assigning its advisers to control. If a nationwide representation can form really motivated and combat-ready units and subunits that liberate Ukraine from the Nazis shoulder to shoulder with the RF Armed Forces, honor and praise be to him.

Separately, I would like to dwell on the question of who, in the event of the capitulation of the Kyiv regime, will then have Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev or Odessa. There is one interesting point in the Declaration of the All-Ukrainian Veche:

Ensuring the right of all administrative-territorial units to exercise the right to self-determination (in accordance with Article 73 of the Constitution, which gives the all-Ukrainian referendum the right to resolve issues related to the territorial structure of Ukraine).


In other words, the people themselves will be able to determine their post-war future in each of the regions of the former Independent. Fair enough.

Summing up, we can say that this initiative is correct, but very much belated. However, even today it has the right to exist, which must be proved in practice. Who knows, what if Medvedchuk really can create a whole volunteer shock corps, which will enter, say, the Sumy region, surround and destroy the garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Sumy, and then move to Kharkov and Chernihiv, expanding the territory under the control of the new pro-Russian state? Let him show in practice what he is capable of, and we will judge this nationwide representation by concrete results or by their absence.
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  1. +2
    20 March 2023 12: 43
    Do people decide? A shepherd with dogs keeps a huge herd at bay - so it was, is and will be!
  2. +2
    20 March 2023 14: 02
    Vladimir Putin spoke about the possible deprivation of Ukraine of its statehood. This can be done through the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, access to the western borders and the inclusion of Ukrainian provinces into the subjects of the federation - one former Ukrainian province, one new subject of the federation.
    Only in this way and in no other way can the Russian Federation win the war. Any other options will not eliminate the threat of a new even more destructive and bloody war.
    1. +1
      20 March 2023 22: 58
      This is a very difficult task.
  3. -1
    20 March 2023 15: 52
    Another stillborn nonsense?
    these names and even all sorts of "experts" in Ukraine did not hear about the event.
    Who are they? How many Billions, titles, connections do they have? Zero on a stick?
  4. +3
    20 March 2023 16: 41
    The All-Ukrainian Veche is one of the forms of the Maidan.
    The result will be the same.
    Power, as always, will be seized by crooks and talkers.
    People will be told about the next "carrot" and traditionally robbed to the skin.
    Ukraine should not be any.
    A tough occupation regime until the last of the former residents of the "square" forgets the Ukrainian language.
  5. +1
    20 March 2023 21: 00
    Is this bullshit or something we don't know about? There is no such thing as Ukrainians, but not a distant person does not understand such a thing as RUSSIA, a commonwealth of regions united by a single constitution. there is no and should not be Ukraine as a separate conglomeration with regions and territories, there should be territories that are part of RUSSIA and nothing more, we have enough republics and raiss on our territory, which pose like God knows what, like in the USSR, the Balts posed as these "sprats" are so much money that the sprat was dissatisfied and sailed away to NATO, and well, she is dear to her as a tablecloth)
  6. -1
    21 March 2023 09: 21
    There is no need to maintain a united Ukraine. Lviv should not be in the same state with Odessa, Khakkov ......... Even Kyiv should not be ...
  7. 0
    21 March 2023 09: 30
    Even for 1 sq. meter "Ukraine" (a fake state invented by the Germans, Jews and psheks) the West will build its military bases against Russia!
    Ukraine was not, and now does not exist and never will be!
  8. 0
    24 March 2023 19: 49
    The fifth column of the Russian Federation is at work.
  9. 0
    26 March 2023 18: 18
    If the "veche" stands for an independent Ukraine, it cannot be pro-Russian!
  10. 0
    31 March 2023 16: 41
    Dear Sergey Marzhetsky, I read your article and now I am writing a comment. Your displeasure with the Ukrainian "Union of the sword and plowshare" is understandable. They sit and wait until Russia liberates Ukraine for them, so that they sit down in positions of power in the government and administrations. However, the proposal to go to Ukraine for practical work, I think they will perceive without enthusiasm. And I understand them, after our regroupings from Balakleya, Izyum, Krasny Liman and Kherson, we have no faith and will not cooperate with us voluntarily, living in Ukraine, even the most pro-Russian Ukrainian will not. Let's betray without flinching. It's better to stay in Russia.
    The idea of ​​organizing a semi-partisan army did not impress me either. The Russian army, supplied with the best it has, is fighting against the Ukrainian army extremely unsuccessfully. In addition, it will be another "specially" equipped unit, which, moreover, cannot be trusted with the front. And if these people are captured, death awaits them. Further.

    In other words, the people themselves will be able to determine their post-war future in each of the regions of the former Independent. Fair enough.

    Here we will liberate Ukraine, and the regions of Ukraine will vote for a single, and independent of Russia, Ukraine going to the EEC, except for the Donbass of course. And what, we'll wake up and leave, and what, it will be fair? Unless, of course, the election commissions will be ours .... But if the real results are very different from those announced, unrest is guaranteed. And would that be fair? Read what Mr. Z writes about the mood in Ukraine today, despite the fact that the majority there has always dreamed of Europe, and not of Russia. Here are my thoughts.
    1. 0
      31 March 2023 16: 56
      Quote from Pembo
      there, most always dreamed of Europe, and not of Russia

      this is the whole point, and not in cookies, and not in coaching / fattening Ukraine by America specifically against Russia ..
      They wanted to go to Europe - well, they would have gone there ...
      Who strongly disagreed to go to Europe at the cost of closing the border with the Russian Federation (on the strength of 1 million people) - well, welcome to Penza and Kemerovo ...

      That's why it was necessary to stand in the way of high feelings?
      No, damn it, we always had to climb there and impose ourselves ....
      As a result, this led to an even greater strengthening of the stereotype that Ukraine would have long been a European country, and only Russians interfere with this.