Is it reasonable to draw parallels between the NWO and the First World War


For many decades, various theories from the genre of alternative history have been discussed in near-historical circles. What would have happened if the Bolsheviks had not come to power in 1917, and the Russian Empire opposed the Third Reich? What would happen if the authorities of our country, whatever their name, did not wait for a perfidious attack, but themselves delivered a preemptive strike against Nazi Germany? In 2022, we in some way received an answer to these purely theoretical questions.


"The Russia We Lost-2"


Having collapsed the Soviet Union in 1991, spitting on the opinion of the people who voted 32 years ago in a referendum for its preservation, the ruling nomenklatura restored capitalist relations and began to build a frank Anti-USSR. Judging by a number of signs, the Russian Empire was chosen as a role model.

Perhaps the main ideologist of the restoration of the pre-revolutionary system with its balls, lackeys, beauties, junkers and the crunch of French bread can be considered director Stanislav Govorukhin, who, like all cultural figures, quickly orientated himself in the new realities and in 1992 made a film under the telling title "Russia, which we lost." In it, he sang and idealized the power that had sunk into oblivion, diligently avoiding its many problems.

Such "little things" as the class division of society, the complete lack of rights of the absolute majority of the population with the privileged status of a minority, the almost complete absence of social elevators with rare exceptions, archaic economics, technological backwardness with the concentration of absolute power in the hands of one person, the monarch, who may not correspond to his position, the "creative elite" did not care too much. But the effect of his propaganda activities was very strong. Many Russians who have been exposed to it are still convinced that “shell hunger” and one rifle for three is an idea of ​​​​Soviet marshals in the Great Patriotic War, and not the harsh realities of the First World War.

The presence of many parallels between the NWO in Ukraine and WWI was not noticed only by the lazy. So, the former commander of the Vostok brigade of the NM DPR Alexander Khodakovsky some time ago shared his observations about what is happening at the front:

Now I see trends that are more in line with the First World War than with the Russo-Japanese, and they worry me. With differences in details, the general line develops as if according to patterns: at the first stage, although with proportionally large losses, we entered enemy territory on general euphoria - then the enemy came to his senses, and the “fifteenth year” began for us.

We retreated, the troops began to experience acute shell and missile hunger, but the most difficult thing was that we had a regular soldier and officer staff knocked out. Just like in that war, we flooded the front with an untrained, low-motivated mass. In Germanskaya, the surviving officers, looking at the arriving reinforcements, said: now we are in command of the militia.

The Russian Empire entered the First World War to help Serbia and very famously started with an offensive. President Putin launched a special operation under the pretext of helping the Donbass and the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, sending troops into Nezalezhnaya from several directions at once. Unfortunately, both in the WWI and in the NMD then there were large-scale retreats or “regroupings”, the war turned into a positional one, due to the active work of artillery, a shortage of ammunition of certain calibers began. About the fact that those mobilized a hundred years ago and today do not quite understand what exactly they are fighting for, Khodakovsky said bluntly.

In general, there is a certain evil irony in everything that happens. If indeed the goal was to build the “Russia we lost” as an antithesis of the USSR, then in a sense it has been achieved. For comparison, during the Zapad-81 military exercises, the Soviet army, together with its allies in the ATS, demonstrated power, sufficient to conquer all of Europe up to Lisbon in 3-4 days. In 3-4 days, Carl! And how long have we been storming the urban-type settlements of Avdeevka and Maryinka near Donetsk?

"Dictatorship of the oligarchy"


What is happening for the second year in the NVO zone and for the ninth year around Ukraine, in general, has its own strictly objective reasons. What is a right? According to one theory, this is the will of the ruling class, elevated to law and enforced by state mechanisms. And what is the ruling class in the modern Russian Federation?

Well, definitely not the proletariat. Instead of working people, the country is collectively and invisibly ruled by a minority almost conserved in itself in the form of a nomenklatura, consisting of officials of all stripes and top managers of state corporations, as well as oligarchs standing above them, closely associated with super-large Western capital and dependent on the American-centric international financial system. . It happens that their interests coincide with the aspirations of the bulk of the population, but on some fundamental issues they cannot coincide.

For example, many Russians were extremely unpleasantly surprised why our army, so to speak, “reformed” by Minister of Defense Serdyukov, cannot inflict a critical military defeat on the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the second year in a row. However, such a result is quite natural, because the conduct of large-scale military operations with conventional weapons indirectly against the entire NATO bloc was simply not seriously considered in modern Russia. From a collision with the North Atlantic Alliance, we were supposed to be protected by a nuclear shield, and our ground army was sharpened, first of all, to fight various “barmaleys” and “rebels”, maximum for operations to enforce peace in the post-Soviet space, as was the case in Georgia in 2008.

Others are sincerely surprised where the uniform and ammunition, the absence of which was told in the State Duma, disappeared from the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. People are perplexed about where the "shell hunger" came from at the front, about which the creator of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin constantly talks, and why the problem has not yet been resolved. But there is nothing particularly surprising here: the Russian “Atlant”, created by “reformers” like Gaidar and Chubais, straightened his shoulders and just makes money the way he can. About what is currently happening at the shell factory built during the Stalinist industrialization in Novosibirsk, we will detail told previously. Capitalism, happiness...

Well, and, finally, it is necessary to say a few words about the "gestures of good will", the end and end of which is not in sight. Many patriotic people are unpleasantly surprised why the figure of the oligarch Abramovich periodically flashes in negotiations with "Western partners", and after that various grain deals, "de-escalations", "regroupings" and other "difficult decisions" begin. But there is nothing to be surprised at all: a Russian billionaire with three passports, including Israeli and Portuguese, was chosen as an intermediary in the negotiations between Kiev and Moscow in Istanbul. Exactly a year ago, his participation in the first "de-escalation", which resulted in the complete withdrawal of the Russian Armed Forces from the North of Ukraine, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Peskov commented as follows:

He really took part in the initial stage. Now negotiations are going on between two negotiating teams - Russian and Ukrainian.

Roman Abramovich is involved in certain contacts between the Russian and Ukrainian side, and he is not an official member of the delegation. You know that our delegation is headed by Presidential Assistant Medinsky, but from our side he [Abramovich] is present at the negotiating table.

In fact, representatives of Russian big business simply solve their own problems, which do not always coincide with what the majority of the people want. A raven will not peck out a crow's eye. But such is the very essence of the dictatorship of the oligarchy. The overall result is natural and quite predictable.
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  1. Vega (Eugene) Offline Vega (Eugene)
    Vega (Eugene) (Eugene) 19 March 2023 12: 42
    +2
    Even with Finnish and Russian-Japanese.
  2. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 19 March 2023 12: 49
    +2
    For comparison, during the Zapad-81 military exercises, the Soviet army, together with its allies in the ATS, demonstrated power sufficient to conquer all of Europe up to Lisbon in 3-4 days. In 3-4 days, Carl!

    So the Russian army regularly demonstrated no less power in all sorts of numerous ostentatious exercises and other biathlons. We knew how to throw dust in our eyes both in the time of the Republic of Ingushetia, and in the Soviet, and now something is already happening, but they have not forgotten how to do it. Fraud is our bond.
    1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
      steelmaker 19 March 2023 14: 50
      +5
      We knew how to throw dust in our eyes both in the time of the Republic of Ingushetia and in the Soviet

      Do not stoop to the level of grunts. Do not upset me with the level of your education. That's when Putin will "put dust in his eyes" with his "galoshes", and not Soviet ones, then wake up the Soviet one!
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      2. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 20 March 2023 22: 55
        -1
        Do not upset me with the level of your education ... thenиthose soviet haиyou!

        The level of knowledge of the Russian language of a metallurgist with a Soviet education shocked me laughing
  3. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 19 March 2023 12: 59
    +7
    A few abstract thoughts. It is too early for April and the "April theses", but the essence of what has been stated already somehow draws on such a perception. An explosive and revolutionary mixture for changes, if there are no surrounding and extinguishing changes and conditions, and the more outdated and "dried" and not diluted the conditions, the more it will crash. It seems true that history goes in a circle in spirals, the new 21st century is not much different from the beginning of the past 20th century.
  4. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 19 March 2023 13: 01
    +13
    The war played a positive role in the fact that the husks of tank biathlons and armats crumbled and it became clear that the country had come to him. The problem is that there is little to see. It is necessary to draw conclusions and quickly change something not only in technical, but also in socio-political terms, but this is not visible in principle. Conclusions suggest themselves and chilly from them.
    1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 19 March 2023 13: 13
      +15
      peeled off the husks of tank biathlons and armats

      This is not enough. For victory and survival in general, it is necessary that the husks crumble from the very existing social system. So cherished by the guarantor for 23 years already .. And unexpectedly for him - who showed his complete unsuitability for solving the country's pressing problems ..
    2. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
      hellman anton (hellman anton) 20 March 2023 00: 10
      +6
      Everyone who served in the army actually knew anyway, and there were no armor husks and other prodigies. It’s just that no one believed them and generally said, but what do they know)
      After the deadline, I was really perplexed and laughed at the news that NATO was horrified, and other prodigies were not analogous.
      Considering that the infrastructure of the army is a Soviet legacy, which is simply painted. Actually, it is all in poor condition, since it was all built a long time ago.
      1. vladivan Offline vladivan
        vladivan (Vladimir) 20 March 2023 10: 40
        +2
        Those who served in the army! They never told what and how in the army. Therefore, part of the population believed that the generals were analyzing from the Internet and drawing conclusions about what new military equipment was appearing in the West. It turned out they didn’t need it, except for a promotion and an extra order for a uniform. Not only that, they put the design bureau of the military-industrial complex under their dependence of illiterate views. 7, under the guise of being for Russia, these developments that have passed the first road tests, but you need something cheap for the army. This concerned analogues of hymers, high-precision guided projectiles. from 2009-2014 tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, air defense systems. Here they were ruined, or if they are not exported, then they are not going into production for the army for the defense of the country. Accordingly, there are no orders, contracts for the production of equipment, workers are fired, and the enterprise is being demolished, and a shopping center is being built on this land in its place. The top in the Moscow Region, interested in making a profit from the shopping center. All those enterprises that were declared bankrupt, the last decision was signed by the courts. And the decision of the courts is 2016% for the destruction of all enterprises, they put their signatures and decisions. We rarely hear where the decisions of the court and the prosecutor were against the bankruptcy of the enterprise, for 19 years of GDP. Just the GDP sent everyone to court to solve the problem. And in the courts, only one "correct" decision was made
  5. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
    Dart2027 19 March 2023 13: 18
    -11
    For comparison, during the Zapad-81 military exercises, the Soviet army, together with its allies in the ATS, demonstrated power sufficient to conquer all of Europe up to Lisbon in 3-4 days. In 3-4 days, Carl!

    So why didn't they win?

    We retreated, the troops began to experience acute shell and missile hunger, but the most difficult thing was that we had a regular soldier and officer staff knocked out.

    How many months ago did Caliber "run out" there?
    1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
      hellman anton (hellman anton) 20 March 2023 00: 14
      +3
      Let's look at the other side, why are missile strikes on infrastructure carried out at intervals of 1-2 months. And not every day? It turns out that they just ran out and everything that is made is immediately spent.
      Pomoemts this is obvious even to a child.

      Of course, you can make a pretty face and say that they left it for NATO, but the reality is different
      1. vladivan Offline vladivan
        vladivan (Vladimir) 20 March 2023 11: 21
        0
        There were 2 resolutions of the Government of Russia and the President on the disposal of shells left over from the USSR on the territory of the Russian Federation. From the article it turned out that 15 million pieces were disposed of up to 1,5 million pieces. For 20 years, the PSU has never been updated. This is how the Ministry of Defense brought up to 80% of the modernization of our defense. Most likely, these 80% should be perceived as the destruction of up to 80% of our defense and military-industrial complex
      2. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
        Dart2027 20 March 2023 19: 31
        0
        Quote from hellman anton
        why are missile strikes on infrastructure carried out at intervals of 1-2 months, and not daily?

        Because expensive missiles are spent on appropriate purposes. And no one will completely empty the arsenals precisely because of the fact that there is also NATO. I think this is obvious even to a child.
  6. Plumbum Offline Plumbum
    Plumbum (Alexey) 19 March 2023 13: 24
    -4
    In my opinion, the parallel is stretched. I have not yet noticed significant successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, comparable to the encirclement of Samsonov's corps in WWI. Yes, part of the occupied territory has been abandoned, but, unlike the same Armed Forces, there are no catastrophic losses in manpower. For the same reason, the parallel with the Soviet-Finnish one will not work either.
    1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 19 March 2023 14: 24
      +9
      catastrophic losses in manpower, unlike the same Armed Forces, are not observed

      What are our current losses? Do not enlighten? Preferably - for the entire hodgepodge in total - the Armed Forces, Wagner, LDNR volunteers, the National Guard and others.
      1. Plumbum Offline Plumbum
        Plumbum (Alexey) 19 March 2023 18: 53
        -3
        This is classified information, but it is quite reasonable to assume that it is several times smaller than that of Ukraine. Something I didn’t see on Ukrainian TV and Telegram channels of mass columns of Russian prisoners, but during the surrender of Mariupol, for example, yes. The ratio - several thousand Ukrainian prisoners to several hundred Russian ones - suggests that the losses differ by a multiple.
        1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
          Peter rybak (Patrol) 20 March 2023 06: 46
          -4
          This is classified information, but it is quite reasonable to assume that it is several times smaller than that of Ukraine.

          Yes, my friend, you stuffed your head in the sand like an ostrich. Every human life is priceless. And to destroy it in a senseless war in the 21st century, instead of using creation in it, is a crime. You and others like you are accomplices in this crime.
          1. Plumbum Offline Plumbum
            Plumbum (Alexey) 23 March 2023 00: 09
            0
            War is a continuation of politics. Not my words, but Clausewitz. A senseless war is one whose results did not suit either side. And there are no unreasonable wars. As for "the pricelessness of human life"... These are just beautiful words that the ruling elites sometimes use for their own purposes, using beautiful-hearted idiots or corrupt hacks for this.

            Always, any government must be ready to sacrifice some of its citizens for the sake of saving the rest, for this it exists. And if Yanukovych had done on the Maidan in 2013 the same thing that Deng Xiaoping did in China on Tiananmen in 1989, he would have fulfilled his duty to the country and saved Ukraine. But then he "didn't succeed" ... And what do we see in the end?
  7. Baltika3 Offline Baltika3
    Baltika3 (Baltika3) 19 March 2023 13: 32
    +4
    the Soviet army, together with its allies in the ATS, demonstrated power sufficient to conquer all of Europe up to Lisbon in 3-4 days.

    This is how many kilometers per hour the SA was supposed to do? Even if with complete absence of resistance?
    The years go by, but the plans are still the same realistic. As Lisbon was in three days, so they have Kyiv in three days.
    1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 19 March 2023 14: 25
      +1
      It’s like in a joke:

      - I want to go to Paris again, like last year.
      - ABOUT! Were you in Paris last year?
      - No, but last year I also wanted to go to Paris.
  8. Hiker Online Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 19 March 2023 13: 33
    -18
    Some time ago I thought I felt...
    But no, it's already becoming obvious.

    In Russia, gradually and openly, those who, masquerading, sucking or leaning, preserved the diabolical, anti-human essence of Marxism-Leninism, began to crawl out of all the cracks.
    And in fact, the misanthropic ideology of extremism, built on the slavery of some with an uncontrollable elite of the elect.
    For Russia, this is the same grief and misfortune as corrupt liberals and "navalnists".
    Extreme right and APPEARING extreme left.

    Failures at the front, Putin's failures are a joy for both.
    REMEMBER (!) how Udaltsov's neo-Bolsheviks supported the "navalnists" and vice versa, and everything will become clear.
    Today the West has bet on both.
    We can only expect a "sealed wagon" with loot for a revolution in Russia, as in 1917. Not for the "navalnists" ..... But for the Red Revenge.
    Only in place of Nicholas 2 - a centrist, a bourgeois conservative, an imperialist and a threat to the West - Putin.

    There are many who every day see the faces of the future Red Revenge...
    They are not foreign agents, but skillfully speculating on the victory of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War, they surfaced for the last throw.
    Their ideology of equality in slavery, the dominance of Shvonders, snitching and humiliation for the sake of the Great goal...

    Normal people can only hope for any victory for Putin and, if not defeat, but keeping in check both the distraught liberals and the unbridled Marxist-Leninists ...
    Both extremes are unacceptable to the Orthodox Russian.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 19 March 2023 13: 53
      +11
      Normal people are left with hopes ...
      Both extremes are unacceptable to the Orthodox Russian.

      It is high time for "normal Orthodox Russian" to learn their native language in order to write in itаbe without errors.
      1. Hiker Online Hiker
        Hiker (Dmitriy) 19 March 2023 14: 17
        -4
        It is high time for a normal Orthodox Russian to learn their native language in order to write in it without errors.

        Thanks, I upvoted you.
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    3. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 19 March 2023 13: 55
      +5
      Dad told me - don't argue with idiots, because it's useless. Therefore, instead of polemics with this fierce nonsense, I will simply put a minus. For such opuses need, first of all, the comments of a psychiatrist, and not mine.
      1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
        Peter rybak (Patrol) 20 March 2023 06: 51
        -3
        For such opuses need, first of all, the comments of a psychiatrist

        He is not sick. He is dead. Because he does not see, does not hear, is deprived of kindness and compassion for people. He is one of the threads in the underwear of power, and while power is in these shorts, he is forced to inhale all this fragrance, to live with it, because he is unhappy and he has no other choice.
  9. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 19 March 2023 13: 46
    +3
    What would have happened if the Bolsheviks had not come to power in 1917, and the Russian Empire opposed the Third Reich?

    History has no subjunctive mood. History was exactly what it was. And point.
    1. Plush Sergeant Offline Plush Sergeant
      Plush Sergeant 19 March 2023 15: 04
      0
      Was and was. What is there to think or analyze, God forbid? Still a headache.
      1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 19 March 2023 20: 40
        -1
        It's not that it is not recommended to analyze the past, it's good for you. Professional historians reject "what if" arguments.
        Eeeeh, sergeant, you can’t be a lieutenant ... you won’t pass the exam. laughing
  10. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 19 March 2023 14: 37
    +9
    When I compare the NWO with the First and Second World Wars, I want to show the mediocrity of the current generals. Because the weapons are different now. But when sycophants, to justify the mediocrity of power, cite examples of the Second World War and the First World War, this speaks of the level of education of the supporters of this mediocre government! For them, everything is God's dew!
    1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
      Dart2027 19 March 2023 16: 07
      -1
      Quote: steel maker
      When I compare the NWO with the First and Second World Wars, I want to show the mediocrity of the current commanders. Because the weapons are different now

      Well, what do you propose to do with this weapon?
  11. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 19 March 2023 14: 55
    -2
    The hasty, almost disorderly flight of the Red Army all the way to Moscow in June-September 1941 also turned out to be a military fiasco. This was preceded by many years of bragging about its invented power and complacency, while the young predator Nazi Germany had already built the most modern and powerful army in the world. Conclusion: Russian carelessness, self-confidence "yes, we ..." and a bet on a large supply of hats; with which you can throw predators. 1914, 1941, 2014, 2022...
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  12. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
    hellman anton (hellman anton) 19 March 2023 14: 59
    +7
    For example, in the Second World War there were many mistakes on the part of the USSR, but they began to be quickly resolved, young people were appointed to leadership positions, tactics changed, preparations for large-scale operations, and as a result, the USSR defeated the superpower represented by Germany.

    Now there is nothing like that, some old generals who are still probably furious that the VKPO does not have a hemming (collar) .. Whoever makes mistakes gets medals.

    In any military conflict, both sides make mistakes, but the one who knows how to learn and correct wins. For example, the United States began to produce MRAPS at an accelerated pace. The United States has repeatedly reduced the loss of helicopters and aircraft by starting to use strike UAVs. distances.

    Unfortunately, as practice has shown, he does not want to learn from the mistakes of others, and even more so from his own Defense Ministry. We now have a deep crisis in the armed forces, and the catastrophe did not happen only due to the reserves of the USSR
    1. Plumbum Offline Plumbum
      Plumbum (Alexey) 19 March 2023 18: 58
      -1
      Fast? Before the Battle of Stalingrad, the situation did not change dramatically. The reason that the German reached the Volga in 1942 is that, on the euphoria of success after the battle near Moscow, Stalin let the "old, proven cadres" - the same Timoshenko, steer, which turned into a disaster near Kharkov.
      1. Nelton Offline Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 19 March 2023 20: 10
        0
        Quote from Plumbum
        "old, proven cadres" - the same Tymoshenko

        Timoshenko advanced only in 1940.

        In the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-1940, from January 7, 1940, he commanded the Northwestern Front, whose troops broke through the Mannerheim Line.

        The results of the reorganization of the leadership structure of the Soviet troops in Karelia were summed up by the Main Military Council, which was also attended by Semyon Konstantinovich.

        “The question arose of who would command the troops on the Karelian Isthmus,” A. M. Vasilevsky will tell years later. “Stalin ... asked:

        "So who's ready to take command..." There was a long silence. Finally, Timoshenko got up:

        - If you give me everything that was said here, then I am ready to take command of the troops and, I hope, will not let you down.

        This is how Tymoshenko was appointed"
        1. Plumbum Offline Plumbum
          Plumbum (Alexey) 19 March 2023 21: 14
          0
          “They met in 1918, in such circumstances that Semyon Konstantinovich, being the commander of the regiment, broke through from the Crimea to Tsaritsyn, where the fighting was going on. There he met Stalin and Voroshilov. He made an impression because he was alone with his regiment. We had to break through a huge territory, we had to break through the rear of the Cossack units, we had to fight very seriously. But nevertheless, they broke through to connect with the Tsaritsyn garrison. It was there that Stalin met with Semyon Konstantinovich Timoshenko and Voroshilov, ”from the memoirs of Natalia Timoshenko, the daughter-in-law of the marshal.
  13. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 19 March 2023 15: 33
    0
    As in the First World War, so at the beginning of the NWO, bright expectations for a quick victory. As A. described, Tolstoy, a journalist from a liberal newspaper, asked a military man from the headquarters, "Will we be in Berlin by the New Year?" In response, he was advised to prepare hospitals for 150-200 thousand wounded. It is difficult to say what the comparison is here, one thing seems to be the unwillingness to talk with the people with an analysis of hostilities.
  14. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 19 March 2023 15: 38
    +1
    From a collision with the North Atlantic Alliance, we were supposed to be protected by a nuclear shield, and our ground army was sharpened, first of all, to fight various “barmaleys” and “rebels”, maximum for operations to enforce peace in the post-Soviet space, as was the case in Georgia in 2008.

    I agree.
    If you ordered a screwdriver, then you can drill a drywall partition with it, but it’s stupid to expect from him that he can gouge a load-bearing wall like a two-kilowatt puncher.

    But it’s also inconvenient to tighten self-tapping screws with a puncher.
  15. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 19 March 2023 15: 47
    +4
    The Russian Empire entered the First World War to help Serbia

    This is the trait of Russian rulers and patriots of all eras, to climb to free / help those who, even under the yoke of oppressors, live much better than the inhabitants of the Tambov province / Kurgan region.

    If, under the yoke of the Ukrofascists, the "pro-Russian" inhabitants of Ukraine still do not want to be evacuated to the barrow and Syzran, then it means that it is necessary to deal with the arrangement and development of the barrow and Syzran, and not geopolitics.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 20 March 2023 23: 15
      -1
      If, under the yoke of the Ukrofascists, the "pro-Russian" inhabitants of Ukraine still do not want to be evacuated to the mound and Syzran ...

      Yes, the scoundrels do not want to settle in Kurgan and Syzran. For the simple reason that they already live in Scotland.

      MOSCOW, March 17 - RIA Novosti. A Ukrainian refugee with her daughter, due to the need to extract a child's tooth, was forced to return to her homeland from Scotland, where the queue for this dental service could stretch for several months, writes the Scottish newspaper Press and Journal. Oksana Martirosova reportedly arrived in Scotland with her seven-year-old daughter Lisa in September 2022. According to the publication, the girl needed to urgently remove a tooth under general anesthesia, but the woman was told that she would have to wait about four months before the child could undergo treatment. Instead, the family was advised to give the girl pain medication and antibiotics. In early March, mother and daughter left for their homeland. After successful treatment, the family returned to Scotland on 15 March.
  16. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 19 March 2023 16: 14
    +8
    capitalism happiness. 2,7 trillion rubles is Gazprom's annual profit, Rosneft's annual profit is 500 billion rubles. 50% of this profit goes into the pockets of the oligarchs, the remaining 50%, which should go to the state, actually goes into the pockets of state employees. Imagine all these years if all this money went to strengthen the army, to create more military factories and industries to ensure the needs of the people. but it doesn't matter, wait until the liberal Abramovich finds you a compromise solution with the Nazi regime while the West continues to arm the Nazi regime until the next war will be fought inside the territory of Russia. capitalism happiness. And yet the current ruling elite in Russia may have different political approaches to pro-Westerners and liberals, but they are both allies against the people.
  17. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 19 March 2023 17: 26
    +1
    He sang and idealized the power that had sunk into oblivion, diligently avoiding its many problems.

    During the Zapad-81 military exercises, the Soviet army, together with its allies in the ATS, demonstrated power sufficient to conquer all of Europe

    Here and for_USSR_sheep also sing and idealize.
    Maneuvers are certainly very cool.
    But in reality, in 1982 in Lebanon, a layered Soviet-style air defense system was carried out dry with the help of an UAV.
    And what is most terrible, no conclusions were drawn from this defeat. They pretended that nothing happened, and continued to pump up funds without changing priorities, and to teach in schools according to old textbooks ... which we are now disentangling.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 19 March 2023 19: 15
      0
      Many sing of the USSR. Yes, the USSR had its advantages. However, one of the significant fundamental shortcomings in the USSR was that the country was immune to new technologies and innovations, which led to an increase in technological backwardness from the West and ultimately led to the collapse of the union and socialism.
  18. svit55 Offline svit55
    svit55 (Sergey Valentinovich) 19 March 2023 20: 02
    +1
    As long as the old and fat generals are in command, and the Moscow Region believes that the "military department" will provide personnel, victory cannot be expected.
  19. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 March 2023 23: 39
    -2
    Well, he's careful and doesn't finish, but something like this.
    Except how famously he also decides "for the people".

    Конечно, наиболее перекликается СВО и с началом, и с пропагандой 2МВ, но сравнивать с ней вроде законодательно запрещено.

    But you can (correctly noted Sergey) compare with WW1.
    He also described the interests of the Oligarchs, very "politically correct" (without mentioning the record deliveries of NATO at the height of the North-Eastern Military District, the privatization of mines and enterprises, the export of capital and the "feast during the plague" in Dubai and much more "Edrostrengthening")

    More interestingly, the phrases quoted are at odds with official propaganda:

    we, although with proportionately large losses, but on the general euphoria entered the territory of the enemy

    we had a cadre of soldiers and officers knocked out.

    No matter what happens. Today I accidentally met the info: 14 days for "watching the wrong videos"
  20. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
    Peter rybak (Patrol) 20 March 2023 06: 40
    -4
    Sergey, plus, because I completely agree. I constantly talk about the fact that the NWO repeats the WWI as a pattern, both at lectures to my students and among colleagues. Of course, I am not hinting that another revolution will be the result of this event, but I hope people themselves understand this.
    There is not a single war that Russia (USSR) would start, and it would end in our victory.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 20 March 2023 09: 40
      0
      there will be another revolutionbut I hope people understand this themselves.

      Nope. Personally, I don't understand. There are no preconditions. None at all. No revolutionary situation, no party, no leaders.

      There is no war which Russia (USSR) would start, and it would end with our victory.

      - Wars during the expansion of Russia to the east (second half of the 17th century).
      - Northern War (1700-1721).
      - First (1768-1774) and second (1787-1791) Turkish wars of Catherine II.
      - Winter war with Finland 1939-1940.