Why the Russian army was unable to take Kyiv in three days

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A little over a year ago, it was believed that Russian troops could take Kyiv in three days if they wanted to. Today, military correspondents are anxiously commenting on the military preparations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which are forming new corps for a decisive offensive against Melitopol and Berdyansk, which became part of the Russian Federation. We have already been near Kiev, but it did not work out, near Kharkov, alas, too. They left Kherson themselves without a fight. Why did reality so cruelly disagree with ideas about it?

Kyiv in three days


First, you need to remember where exactly the statement about the capture of the Ukrainian capital in just three days came from. This was stated by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, speaking in the US Congress:



A full-scale invasion could lead to the fall of the city within 72 hours. This will result in losses on both sides. From Ukraine - 15, from the Russian Federation - 000 people.

A very complimentary assessment that should have warmed the soul of any Russian jingoistic patriot and strained American lawmakers so that they were ready to allocate more funds to support the Zelensky regime. But how realistic are such timelines? Is it even possible to take a huge metropolis in such a short time?

Yes, you can, if you fight smart. When compiling his forecast, General Milli was clearly guided both by the American experience of conducting special operations, and by the Soviet one, which, in theory, should have been guided by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. We will talk about the latter in more detail later, but now it is worth remembering exactly how the Pentagon prefers to solve its problems.

For example, in 2003, the United States and its accomplices decided to launch an operation to overthrow Saddam Hussein's regime called Iraqi Freedom. The forces of the US-British coalition, which also included the Australian and Polish military, were as follows: about 300 thousand troops armed with 500 tanks, 1200 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 900 guns, mortars and MLRS, 1100 medium-range cruise missiles, 1300 combat aircraft and helicopters, 200 mobile air defense systems. The army that Baghdad had looked much more serious on paper: 430 people armed with 2200 tanks, 3000 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, 4000 guns, mortars and MLRS, 100 medium-range ballistic missiles, 500 combat aircraft and helicopters, 100 mobile air defense systems . Saddam Hussein also had irregular armed formations numbering 40 thousand people and a mobilization reserve of 650 thousand people.

Taking into account the fact that the Iraqis were to fight on their native land, and the interventionists were opposed by a long logistical arm, the balance as a whole looked far from hopeless for official Baghdad. However, everything turned out very badly for Saddam Hussein's regime.

With the help of massive missile and bomb strikes, the Western coalition was able to quickly suppress the air defense system of Iraq and inflict critical damage on its military and civilian infrastructure. Hussein's army was deprived of controllability and blocked in places of deployment. Just two weeks after the start of the special operation, Baghdad found itself in a blockade ring. The American-British intervention began on March 20, 2003, on April 9, the capital of Iraq fell, and on April 13, Hussein's hometown of Tikrit capitulated. During this short period of hostilities, the Western coalition lost 172 troops, the defenders - more than 9000 people.

The factors that ensure such a rapid defeat are considered to be the dominance of the interventionists in the air, which they used to the maximum, destroying the enemy infrastructure, as well as the FBCB2 (Force XXI Battle Command Brigade and Below) combat control system. The information system for command and control of troops at the level of communication "brigade - battalion - company", when the commanders of units and advanced artillery gunners had pocket computers for orienting themselves on the ground and transmitting combat reports, became the main trump card that made it possible to beat the "natives" in a ground operation.

USSR we lost


Unfortunately, today the greater effectiveness of the offensive operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is determined precisely by superiority over the RF Armed Forces in satellite and aerial reconnaissance, as well as control, which allows the Kyiv regime to provide militarytechnical assistance from the entire NATO bloc. The saddest thing about this is that Western technological dominance in this component is based on the refined ideas of the Soviet military genius.

The rethinking of the concept of conducting large-scale hostilities took place at the end of the 70s of the last century, when the confrontation between the USSR and the USA reached its peak. The probability of the actual use of nuclear weapons by each of the parties to the conflict was considered very high, but neither Washington nor Moscow wanted complete mutual destruction. A kind of conditional compromise scenario was a war between the two superpowers on the territory of Central Europe between the NATO bloc and the countries of the Warsaw Pact.

The new concept of network-centric warfare was actually developed by Marshal of the Soviet Union and Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Vasilyevich Ogarkov, one of the most talented military leaders in our history. He proposed linking into a single control system not only modern means of communication and information processing, but also all types of troops - every private, officer and general. The Ogarkov Doctrine, as it was later called in the West, assumed a balance between nuclear deterrents and conventional armed forces, which should operate in a non-nuclear conflict.

A significant increase in the effectiveness of the Armed Forces of the USSR without increasing their numbers was to be achieved through the comprehensive introduction of information technologies, which ensured a greater speed of response to external threats, mobility of movement, the continuity of the process of planning, conducting and logistical support of hostilities, as well as a unified field of operational -tactical awareness. The main emphasis was placed on the development of communications and control means, for which a strategic command command system (CSBU) and an automated command and control system (ACS) with the code "Maneuver" were created and implemented, and the Unified Field Automated Command and Control System (EPASUV) was formed and developed. ), unified for the USSR and ATS countries.

These command and control systems were tested during the largest Soviet military exercises Zapad-81. Then it was demonstrated that the "red ram" is able to break through the NATO defenses in just a few days and, if necessary, ensure a breakthrough of tank wedges to Lisbon. Needless to say, Washington, London and Brussels were really impressed and seriously changed their rhetoric, since they considered the exercises to be the last rehearsal before the start of the Soviet offensive. The Ogarkov Doctrine was carefully studied, as was one of the Manevr control systems, which fell into the hands of Western experts after the collapse of the USSR.

It is especially bitter that the ideas of the Soviet military genius developed by the Americans are now being applied in Ukraine by the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against the Russian army. Everyone has already heard about the problems that exist at the front with communications, aerial reconnaissance and coordination between various units and subunits. In the next publication, we will talk more about the control system that the Russian army needs to increase its combat capability.
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  1. -6
    17 March 2023 11: 49
    From the Russian leadership, not a single head of the state level, not a single serious expert has claimed such nonsense. This nonsense was carried by Western experts and some idiots inside Russia. The question on this topic should be put in the following expression: "What psychotropic illegal drugs were taken by idiots who claim to take Kuev in three days."
    1. +21
      17 March 2023 12: 05
      GDP in 2014 said that they would reach Kyiv in a week. They said, they just don’t want to raise words now.
      If they didn’t want to quickly take Kyiv, then why were giant columns sent inland along the highway? They naturally fell into ambushes.
      So we wanted to quickly, this confirms all the actions that were.
      The General Staff has not been dismissed and generally feels good.
      Lovers shout "and who to change?" It turns out that there are no trained personnel in the army?
      1. RUR
        +1
        19 March 2023 13: 59
        Putin probably keeps his entourage, which he seems to consider betrayed, so that it does not turn out like with Tsar Nicholas 2, who was betrayed by his inner circle
  2. +4
    17 March 2023 12: 12
    I don’t quite understand how, in today’s conditions, it is possible to take by storm a city of three million that will be defended .. The casualties among the civilians would obviously be prohibitive, and I strongly doubt that Russia is ready to do this ..

    Besides, what's the point in that? Kiev is by no means a key point of defense, with the capture of which the war would immediately end.
  3. +6
    17 March 2023 12: 30
    Kharkov can be taken in 3 days. If you first bomb the bridges across the Dnieper. And not only Kharkov. There are many cities on the left bank.
  4. +25
    17 March 2023 13: 01
    The day before yesterday, the Babushkinsky court released on parole the head of Voentelekom, who had taken 1,4 yards to a closed field communication, which was never made. Did not return the money, will soon leave for the Maldives.
    1. +7
      18 March 2023 15: 06
      And upstairs they reported that everything was done and works better than in any army in the world. No one, of course, imagined that Putin would seriously believe the reports and start a war, having, in fact, only the remnants of the Soviet legacy.
      1. +1
        19 March 2023 11: 47
        Our system is such that 30-50% of the allocated funds are stolen at each level. But at the same time, everyone is firmly convinced that the remaining 50-70% will go into action, and will not be plundered by their own subordinates at the lower levels of the hierarchy.
        It is clear that in this state of affairs, so much came to the ground that it was just enough to purchase paper for printing brave reports and requests for additional funding.
  5. -1
    17 March 2023 14: 36
    Quote from Paul3390
    I don’t really understand how, in today’s conditions, you can take by storm a city of three million that will be defended ..

    The article clearly states how to take the city in three days, if not to play mercy and "Ukrainians are a brotherly people." I was still in the Union, in the eighties I was convinced what kind of "fraternal people" it was. For me, an Orthodox Russian, Muslims are more brothers than these creatures. So, Putin was formally right: in a week you can walk to Kyiv, and in two or three to the border with Poland, there would be political will for this.

    Quote from Paul3390
    Besides, what's the point in that? Kyiv is by no means a key point of defense, with the capture of which the war would immediately end .. There is absolutely nothing archival

    Kyiv is a key financial, economic and military-political center of Ukraine. Taking Kyiv, we would behead the state.
    1. +3
      17 March 2023 14: 59
      Kyiv was almost taken. Gastomel, Bucha is actually already Kyiv. Why didn't they take it? But because the whole calculation was made on the "pro-Russian fifth column" in the Ukrainian government, the troops and the police, who were supposed to do the main job - to take power. However, the Ukrainian counterintelligence, with the help of the CIA and other Western intelligence services, prevented this performance - they arrested the main executors, disarmed the unreliable units and took them to other places, where they were purged and diluted with Nazis. In general, they delivered a preemptive strike. The Russian units approached Kyiv, but the rebels did not meet them, but met the bullets and shells of the Nazis. It was time to make a march back, since the forces to hold such a city were clearly not enough and the supply lines of the Russian troops were under attack and easily cut. Who is to blame for the current situation? Draw your own conclusions. In my opinion, everything lies on the surface.
      1. 0
        18 March 2023 04: 39
        Kyiv was almost taken. Gastomel, Bucha is actually already Kyiv.

        well, then the Germans took Moscow in 1941, since you have Bucha and Khreshchatyk, this is the same
      2. +3
        18 March 2023 15: 08
        What the hell are rebels? Funny, by God!
      3. RUR
        0
        19 March 2023 14: 09
        in Ukraine, a survey was conducted before the NVO by order of the Russian Federation, probably by order of the government of the Russian Federation, citizens of Ukraine on the topic of their attitude towards Russia, resisting the Russian Federation if it attacked Ukraine - the results were very not in favor of Russia ... then Putin got out with speech that Russians and Ukrainians are one, like, people, etc., which proves the 2 (SECOND) year of the war, and very good. probably not the last...

        Draw your own conclusions. In my opinion, everything lies on the surface.

        - Adventure lies on the surface
    2. +5
      17 March 2023 15: 10
      Quote: AlexSam
      if you do not play mercy and "Ukrainians are a brotherly people." I was still in the Union, in the eighties I was convinced what kind of "fraternal people" it was

      Yeah, they started the NWO as the liberation of the "fraternal people" from a bunch of Nazis ..
      Well, if they are not brothers, then why the hell did they climb there at all, starting from 1992?
      I note that everything they did was bad - they did it to their own citizens, and on the territory of Ukraine within the borders recognized by the Russian Federation.
      Well, what is our business?
      Hutus and Tutsis also cut each other a little ....

      Oh yes, NATO was asleep and saw how to put its missiles in the Sumy region.
      but for 30 years they did not have time.
      A year after the "regrouping" - they still won't be able to do the same ...
      And they don't stand in Estonia...

      Maybe someone is lying to us, not only about the retirement age, the constitution - but also about NATO's plans?
      1. +5
        17 March 2023 20: 23
        Maybe someone is lying to us

        Not without it...
      2. -1
        19 March 2023 12: 27
        Come on. Well, the voiced goals of the NWO for the year were transformed from the liberation of the fraternal people, denazification and demilitarization into "Ukraine must agree to the territorial demands of the Russian Federation." And the population, seemingly brought up on "we don't need a span of someone else's land," on the fact that territorial claims are an attribute of imperialist policy, happily devoured all this, and asks for more.
      3. +2
        20 March 2023 15: 29
        Well, what is our business?
        Hutus and Tutsis also cut each other a little ....

        They cut it for 8 years, if you don’t know or don’t want to know, Russian people. Or do you not care about it until you personally touched? It seems that you are still on the other side, so you write so cynically. And since 1992, no one except the West has approached you. On the contrary, Russia fed you, gave away gas and oil for nothing, allowed them to be stolen and canceled debts. Thanks to us, your economy has been holding on for 30 years. Then, if you forgot, Russia, thanks to its traitors and power-hungry, gave you freedom itself, letting you float freely. And here is her gratitude. They made enemies out of Russia and Russians and forced them to fight and kill. This was a big and unforgivable mistake of our country and its authorities to let Ukraine go. This is what you and I are paying for. And the West rubs its hands. What he has been trying to achieve for many centuries is now happening, Russians are killing Russians.
        1. 0
          20 March 2023 15: 51
          Quote: wladimirjankov
          They cut it for 8 years, if you don’t know or don’t want to know, Russian people.

          ... but citizens of Ukraine.
          Since 1992, what prevented all citizens with a Soviet passport and a column in the nationality "Russian *" from giving citizenship of the Russian Federation and some kind of assistance for moving?
          Just tell a pro-Russian resident of Ukraine about moving to Kurgan - he will learn Ukrainian better, but he will not go to Kurgan.
          So we need to deal with our Kurgans.

          * not only Russian, all the peoples of the Russian Federation who do not have another state.

          upd: I was born in the RSFSR and live in the Russian Federation.
    3. +3
      17 March 2023 18: 22
      It was necessary to fight not 250 thousand troops, but 2 times more, at least the situation would have been different.
    4. +5
      18 March 2023 04: 37
      those same brothers who recently received a term for the fact that in the subway three of one guy was beaten, who stood up for the girl ??? while other "Orthodox" pretended that nothing was happening? well, yes, the true unity of the fraternal peoples is direct ... and the beaten guy, apparently, was a crest ...

      you are the same "Orthodox" ... in Orthodoxy there are no bad peoples ... and you enrolled 40 million people en masse as bandits and murderers ... but at the same time they recorded other people as brothers, among whom there are also, to put it mildly, different .. .those who cut off the heads of Russian prisoners in Chechnya in the 90s, are these brothers for you? maybe those who captured the children in Beslan?
    5. +2
      18 March 2023 07: 42
      Kabul was once taken. It was also the capital. But that didn't solve anything.
  6. +7
    17 March 2023 14: 51
    What to grind from empty to empty.
    They showed people another carrot, they immediately forgot that they lured everyone, all the previous carrots in the same way .. to export raw materials, money, minds to the West, the devastation of production, yachts and hacienda for the "elite"

    The same people are pushing the same carrots: gas and oil over the hill, record deliveries to NATO at 22, the oligarchs are our everything, effectively optimize and relax in Dubai. ..
  7. +9
    17 March 2023 15: 36
    Before discussing why the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are parquet, take and analyze what victories and economic achievements the Russian Federation has had since 1991, i.e. for 32 years. Who did the Russian Federation become after the coup d'état in the USSR? The comprador feudal-capitalist bourgeoisie is in power. What do you want from thieves, bandits, hucksters???
    1. +2
      17 March 2023 15: 51
      Well, under Medved, for example, the country began digitalization as much as possible, which greatly facilitated life. Yes, and the country's GDP for the first time exceeded $ 2 trillion, it is clear that there were bad moments. But 2008-2012 was the country's best period.
      By the way, then Georgia was rolled away without an unparalleled prodigy, and there were no sanctions.
      As you can see, without someone the country did not fall apart, who could it be ...

      Pzh, you don’t have to write that Medved was just a screen and other stories, given that peacekeepers in Georgia were fired at night and a military operation had already begun in the afternoon, Medved didn’t even wait 8 years, didn’t give time to set up fortifications. What a bastard
      1. +2
        17 March 2023 18: 40
        Well, being proud of the victory over Georgia is like being proud of the victory over Chechnya.
      2. +7
        18 March 2023 04: 55
        By the way, then Georgia was rolled away without an unparalleled prodigy,

        the population of Georgia is less than 4 million people ... the greatest victory of Medvedev, who rolled a tiny country ... the only problem is that when only a few tens of kilometers remained to Tbilisi, the RA stood up and did not go any further under the persuasion of Sarkozy and the like ... as a result, Although Georgia lost de facto, but de jure it did not suffer ANY territorial losses ... although it was then necessary to force at least to admit its defeat and the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia LEGALLY. or put your own puppet government ...

        and about Medvedev's "digitalization" ... it is not the merit of an iPhone specialist, but the development of technologies ... Western and moreover ... if Nikolai II were in Medvedev's place at that time, and he would carry out digitalization ... and the "best period of the country" justified by a rebound in oil prices, and not by some great reign of Medvedev ... as well as his predecessor and successor in one bottle ...

        what all these "best years" were worth is clearly visible now, when it turned out that Russia simply does not have a manufacturing economy ... and all these dozen automakers, whose Russian Nissans and Volkswagens these characters were so proud of, disappeared in one minute somewhere .. .if the Soviet Union produced only galoshes, then Putin-Medvedev's Russia is not able to produce galoshes either ... but can only stick the "Moskvich" tag on Chinese ones
        1. +2
          18 March 2023 05: 35
          Hello, there is no merits of Medved in digitalization, then what merits does GDP have? Except for the fall of the economy in 2014 by half, crossing out the years of the country's work?
          What, you don’t like Medvedev and that he showed that the country can live in peace even without Putin?
          De facto, the defeat of Georgia in 5 days, that's all. And the fact that you came up with nonsense about some territories is generally absurd. Why does Russia need new territories, Russia is already the largest country in the world, and only 140 million live in the country .
          This is absurd
      3. 0
        21 March 2023 23: 31
        In fact, the then military leaders there, in the Caucasus, who later retired, extremely negatively assessed the indecisiveness of Aifonchik, who almost blew the Roki tunnel. In the safes of the chiefs of staff, there were packages with a plan of action and draft orders for "hour X" - to repel an attack by Georgians. But with the command to open that Supreme dragged on to the last, he still could not believe that the Georgics had started a war, and he himself later admitted this.
    2. 0
      17 March 2023 18: 41
      There are no achievements of the Russian Federation until 2005, but the last 10 years of the USSR are decay. Food is strained, then one shortage, then another. And okay would luxury goods. And even the lack of meat and butter and simple high-quality shoes and clothes.
    3. -1
      17 March 2023 19: 04
      Quote: vlad127490
      what victories and economic achievements has the Russian Federation since 1991, i.e. for 32 years.

      - moved from grain purchases in tens of millions of tons to net exports of agriculture, while maintaining imports. chocolate / coffee / bananas will not surprise anyone even in the outback.
      - raised n/a gasification from 40% to 73%
      - depth of oil refining - from 67% to 84%
      - Since 2014, it has been steadily building more housing than in the record years of the RSFSR.
      By the way, the record years of the RSFSR are 87 and 88, Gorbachev, sir ...
      - We built icebreakers, nuclear power plants with VVER-1200 reactors.
      - increased the production of base polymers tenfold
      - built a bunch of large bridges
      - greatly improved roads, highways appeared in the country.
      - the number of own cars per capita increased from 58 per 1000 (1990) to 348.
      - built perinatal centers, infant mortality decreased to European / American indicators
      1. +6
        17 March 2023 21: 30
        Of course, there are successes in the development of the country! .. Who can argue ...
        But at the same time:
        1. The country had to go (pull) through the Nineties ...
        (Chechnya (Two wars.); a period of outright humiliation and mockery of the Russian population in various Baltic states, the Caucasus and Transcaucasia; civil wars and other disorders in Central Asia, also accompanied by rot (up to extermination) of Russian speakers; a whole band of humiliating and bloody terrorist attacks; a sharp drop in the living standards of the population and life expectancy (lack of medicines in pharmacies; opportunities for adequate nutrition for the poor; plus systematic non-payment and delays in wages, etc., etc.)
        2. They slept through the most important geopolitically for the Russian Federation neighboring country - Ukraine (thanks, first of all) to the tongue-tied Ambassador Chernomyrdin); next in line is the traditional "soft underbelly" of the empire - Central Asia ...
        3. They gave the "partners" three hundred billion "...
        4. Silently swallowed the explosions of oil pipelines ...
        5. They allowed themselves to be drawn into a serious and already long-term military conflict on the Ukrainian territories... (There is only one reason - the incompetence of the relevant foreign policy and intelligence services...) A conflict that could very likely develop into a serious European war...
        6. They allowed various rogues or outright traitors-Jews to ruin the most powerful military-industrial complex; domestic heavy and medium engineering and machine tool building (we even buy bearings abroad, not to mention microcircuits);
        7. Reforms of the Armed Forces of Serdyukov and his mistress - GENERALLY A SEPARATE TOPIC! ..
        Partial mobilization - perhaps showed only a part of the "iceberg" of the problems of the RF Armed Forces, which now URGENTLY will have to be raked ...
        8. The most dangerous thing is that domestic education was ruined with the same "strange" reforms ... All levels ...
        ... And now we are starting to "change horses at the crossings" ... (Tolley we will return to the former "Soviet" type ... or they will "create" a "mixture of a bulldog with a rhinoceros" ...
        9. They spawned thieves and filthy stupid careerist evil spirits ... Especially in the upper strata of the bureaucracy ... We will sadly keep silent about the khanate-oligarchy ...
        ...By the way, - they (someone from this gop-company of rich pinocchio) help secretly (Is this true?) OR ALREADY IN OPEN!???..
        ... Like someone - Abramovich, who gave the executioners from "Azov" (they say - an organization banned in the Russian Federation!))))) - iPhones and "sweets" ... Thus, who were promised LOUDLY - TO SET UP a Ukrainian "Nyurberg". ..
        10. It was said about the loss of Ukraine ... Everything is clear with the "Romans" too ...
        But still: why is the whole of eastern and southern Europe (excluding the Serbs!) so opposed to Russia? Definitely taking the side of the crests, despite the obvious Bandera-pro-Nazi regime that flourished in the country of Ukraine? ..
        WHERE IS OUR COMPETENT FOREIGN POLICY?..
        You can continue, of course ... but you should not ...

        EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING FOR COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE REASONS - in the yard there is "capitalist imperialism" ...)))))))) Yes, even in a decaying phase ...
        And this is - uneven development, therefore - a banal next redistribution of the world, spheres of influence, and more, more and more ...
        (Including covert wars through viruses..., climatic and seismic weapons...)
        ...Alas! THE BIG EAST AND THE SOUTH-EAST have become industrial giants ... in spite of the collective West ... So new wars are inevitable ...
        1. +3
          17 March 2023 23: 21
          Ukraine (thanks, first of all) to the tongue-tied Ambassador Chernomyrdin);

          - the ambassador, as far as I know, expresses the position of his leadership, which gives him the appropriate orders. Above the ambassador there is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, above the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there is the prime minister, above the prime minister there is the president.

          - The PMC was not tongue-tied, but had a very peculiar sense of humor that only people who have it themselves can appreciate.

          - the people who appointed him ambassador are primarily to blame for the appointment itself. He was not at all suitable for this position, saying once that his whole life was spent in an atmosphere of oil and gas. So it was necessary to leave him there, but they (and Vyakhirev) passionately wanted to be removed out of sight, making room for a former employee and colleague, you know who in Miller's St. Petersburg mayor's office. By the way, the latter is as expired and permanent as his patron.
          1. 0
            21 March 2023 21: 36
            ... I talked with him and others like him (from the oil and gas industry), so I don’t advise defending this banal - a thief ... He (together with friends - coming out oligarchs) "drunk" all diplomatic work in the former Soviet republic ... I relied on homies, so to speak! .. The Americans and other Soros at that time - CALMLY AND UNOBSTRUCTED - actually "conquered" this republic ...
        2. +3
          18 March 2023 10: 37
          An insolent man in a jacket, I agree with you a lot, a lot of SVO and mobilization revealed problems, but a lot was previously known, how much was discussed here on the forum about our military-industrial complex and several pieces of equipment for parades.
          And imagine how many more problems we will find out about what we have and will have in Russia. Now I will give an example from life, what I see with my own eyes, here we had a powerful ball bearing plant in Tomsk, it produced a huge mass of bearings for the country. It still exists, but areas and workshops, equipment, have not existed for many many years, but the plant is working, the whole country thinks it is working, and I think the loot is laundered on this, they get it from Moscow and how fashionable it is to say "master" now. Probably heaps of millions, but in fact it’s just that a bunch of people have locally produced stickers on Chinese bearings. So I write and think, how many such factories in Russia, the size of an office, where stickers are glued made in Russia, and our president is reported that everything is fine with us and a lot of industries? I think that such lies go into thousands, if not tens of thousands. They say we are breaking records in the agricultural industry, and these records are only broken in my wallet, because bread, in 1990, did not fall in price for a single day, x Although we were at the bottom of the agricultural industry, although we are now one of the first in the world, it doesn’t make it any easier for me as a citizen of my country, it’s easier only for hucksters, since bread has only been growing steadily for 30 years and has never fallen in price.
        3. +3
          18 March 2023 11: 03
          Quote: Insolent in a Jacket
          FOR COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE REASONS - "capitalist imperialism" is in the yard ..

          Capitalist imperialism is in almost all countries, and only a Soviet KGB colonel brought his country to a foreign policy catastrophe.
          Well, not only he, Gaddafi and Hussein also distinguished themselves, and Erdogan runs up. All of them are united by a pronounced voluntarism, a consequence of irremovability and excessive concentration of power.
          Although voluntarism, autocracy, the cult of personality have been repeatedly condemned in the last century, there are still enough supporters of the idea "if not he, then who."
      2. +3
        18 March 2023 05: 28
        again these endless tales about the grain that we export ... the USSR imported grain, having a population of 300 million people ... in the Russian Federation 145 ...

        in addition, in the early 90s in Russia there were 20,6 million cows, now 7,8, the number of cattle has decreased from 57 million to 17,7 ... oh, we export grain, what happiness! and with the money from the sale of this grain we import palm oil, with which we replace milk fat ... well, just a breakthrough ...

        further, they built icebreakers and nuclear power plants ... apparently, the USSR did not build icebreakers and nuclear power plants laughing I remember that the first nuclear power plant in the world connected to the grid was Obninsk ... thus, the construction of a nuclear power plant is not some kind of Putin's ACHIEVEMENT, but the result of further development of technologies developed by ancestors ... but at the same time, many other industries were actually destroyed .. .do not tell me how it is with the civil aircraft industry? a lot of "built"? or machine tools? maybe Russia is a leader in the development of drones and drones? or space intelligence?

        I don’t even want to talk about achievements in the form of building a bunch of large bridges, because tsarist Russia was doing a great job of building bridges ... if the construction of a bridge is an achievement for the country, then I feel sorry for such a country ... if anything, Russian bridges are not on the list of 36 most longest bridges in the world (from 20 km and above) ... the Crimean bridge has a length of 19 km ... the overpass of the first line of the Lima metro in such a highly developed country as Peru has a length of 33 km ... the longest bridge is located in China and has a length of almost 165 kilometers ... here China really BUILT A LOT of large bridges ... in the list of 36 largest bridges in the world, 19 Chinese ...

        it’s especially relevant to talk about “improved” roads in the spring, which is now massively washing away this “achievement” of a Russian girl who has risen from her knees ... in our Serpukhov now the roads seem to have been processed by Gradov ...

        about the construction of perinatal centers ... well, yes, they built it ... the only problem is that in the USSR women did not give birth in the underground either ... centers are being built in large cities. while maternity hospitals are being closed in small towns ... and the women of these places are forced to risk their health in the process of transporting them to your newfangled centers ...

        By the way, I didn’t notice in your list of achievements the mass construction of churches of the Russian Orthodox Church and against this background the massive closure of schools and hospitals ...

        about infant mortality: Russia in this ranking is in FORTY place in the world ... below such prominent countries as Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia ... though above the USA, which is already in 60th place ... that is why you are with them and compare, and not with Belarus, which, without any "set up" there, has an infant mortality rate TWO times lower than in Russia ... where is the success, actually?

        in the ranking of car provision per capita, Russia is also far from being the leader, having therefore managed to concede not only to Lithuania and Estonia, but also to such a great country as Moldova, which has 502 cars per 1000 inhabitants ... but in this rating, at least We overtake Belarus, though not by much laughing

        I don’t know if it’s possible to post links in a comment ... so that comments are not deleted, I don’t post ... but to check my information about the provision of cars per capita and about infant mortality, it’s enough to be able to simply use an Internet search engine ...

        Thus, if you look in detail at the list of your "achievements", then either there are no achievements (because it's somehow hard to be proud that Moldova is cooler than Russia in the car rating), or this is a continuation of the usual routine work of the state, like building bridges or nuclear power plants. ..well, or outright Pyrrhic victories, like the construction of perinatal centers amid the closure of schools and hospitals in the outback (thereby dooming the province to further extinction) or as the export of grain against the background of the mass genocide of cattle ... and even in the issue of grain export, Russia demonstrates its backwardness, exporting a resource, and not products of at least minimal processing in the form of flour ... on which Turkey profits very well, for example, which turns Russian grain into a commodity and leaving surplus value in its country ...
        1. +3
          18 March 2023 05: 49
          Well, it is worth noting that at least effective managers have not optimized nuclear energy. But apparently the genius of Soviet scientists is so high that even effective ones cannot destroy the achievements of the USSR.
          Actually, nuclear energy is the only area where, although we lag behind the United States, we are at the forefront.

          And at the expense of churches, you are absolutely right, it’s just that a huge amount of dough is poured into it all. In luxurious churches, although it would be better if this money was used to upgrade the infrastructure of the old one, which is being exploited and is not going to be changed.
          Yes, even start with the infrastructure of the army, where in general 90 percent are the remnants of the Soviet super-civilization. Killed barracks, educational buildings (buildings), killed medical units (medical service), sports grounds and so on.
          1. -5
            18 March 2023 08: 05
            The USSR imported grain, having a population of 300 million people ... in the Russian Federation 145 ...
            in addition, in the early 90s in Russia there were 20,6 million cows, now 7,8, the number of cattle has decreased from 57 million to 17,7

            - According to the 1989 census, the population of the USSR totaled 285,7 million people. According to current estimates, by the beginning of 1991 it had risen to 289,2 million.not 300 million.

            - When I was a student in 79-84, I often saw "come in large numbers" in Moscow - people with backpacks from the Moscow, Tver, Tula, Ryazan regions who went to Moscow for food. "Long, green, smells like sausage?" - electric train from Moscow. Tell us more about the number of dairy herds and cattle, it’s purely fun with you lol negative

            (for being proud that Moldova is cooler than Russia in the car rating is somehow hard),

            Throw off a reference about a certain "car rating", it will be interesting to read what it is. what
        2. +1
          18 March 2023 19: 49
          Quote: Nikolai Volkov
          The USSR imported grain, having a population of 300 million people ... in the Russian Federation 145 ...

          The USSR in its composition also had such a breadbasket as Ukraine.

          export of grain against the background of the mass genocide of cattle ..

          Cattle were reduced, poultry and pork were bred, as a result, there was more meat.

          exporting a resource, not a product of at least minimal processing in the form of flour

          Yeah, the USA / France / Canada trade the same grain, not flour, backward people ...
          Well, let me remind you that for grain, the main second redistribution is not flour, but livestock products. Russia also exports meat / milk.

          apparently, the USSR did not build icebreakers and nuclear power plants

          If we consider the peaceful achievements of the USSR, then icebreakers and nuclear power plants, especially VVER-1000, will take pride of place in the top ten, or even five.

          Putin's ACHIEVEMENT, but the result of the further development of technologies developed by the ancestors.

          Did I write somewhere that everything done is the merit of Putin?
          And is it bad that the Russian Federation continued to develop those achievements that were in the RSFSR, additionally concentrating on replacing components from other republics?

          below such prominent countries as Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia..

          I absolutely do not understand the attacks on these countries, as well as on Moldova.
          In the days of the USSR, all the Western republics lived better than the regions of the RSFSR, were better equipped, better supplied. The Baltics have always been distinguished by cleanliness and accuracy.
          And when per capita values ​​are considered, small countries often overtake large ones. Take, say, Monaco and the USA ...

          Tsarist Russia did a great job of building bridges ...

          Infrastructure development is the most important direction in the development of any country, bridges are the most iconic objects in this.
          Tsarist Russia also built bridges - and this was the same development and achievement.

          continuation of the normal routine work of the state

          Well, for the country and the people, first of all, achievements in the field of "continuing normal work" are needed.
        3. 0
          19 March 2023 12: 35
          for tsarist Russia was well engaged in the construction of bridges ... if the construction of a bridge is an achievement for the country, then I feel sorry for such a country

          So tsarist Russia somehow built battleships. And the USSR even laid, but could not master a single one. Moreover, this shipbuilding program turned into a zilch long before the battleships were considered obsolete.
      3. +3
        18 March 2023 15: 15
        I probably lived all the 2000s in some other Russia, in which industrial enterprises, district hospitals and rural schools were closed, where funds were pumped only into main roads, and the remnants of the never repaired Soviet asphalt road go to my village.
      4. -2
        18 March 2023 19: 22
        Oleg! You are only partially right about the development of the economy, but very much in the style of "Made by us"; Here is some more objective information about recent "successes":
        https://svpressa.ru/economy/article/365610/

        But, let's be honest, this is a sly statistic. It is possible to plunge the economy into a deep hole in some quarter (month), and then, dancing from the created low base, demonstrate economic achievements in the form of positive growth for many quarters (months). They “danced” the third and fourth quarters of last year, and according to the results of the whole of 2022, they received an index equal to 98,7%. Those. output by basic types of economic activity in 2022 was lower than in 2021 by 1,3%.

        The thoughtful reader has noticed that in the President's short phrase about last year's economic dynamics, the ends do not meet.
        But even more interesting is the data for January 2023. With any approach (at least on an annual basis, at least on the current one), the first month of this year saw a decline in the economy. Which contradicts the statement of the head of state that "for the last seven months, production has been constantly growing and the country's GDP is increasing." It is noteworthy that the January collapse, calculated on a current basis (ie, in comparison with December last year), turned out to be a record against the background of last year's monthly indices.

        Taking this opportunity, I will give the values ​​of the January indices on an annual basis for some key sectors of the economy: the mining industry - 71,5; manufacturing industry - 88,8; wholesale and retail trade - 93,2.

        And here are the January indices for the same sectors of the economy, calculated on a current basis: extractive industry - 90,0; manufacturing industry - 72,3; wholesale and retail trade - 77,9.
        1. +1
          18 March 2023 20: 15
          Quote from Vox Populi
          Here is some more objective information about recent "successes":

          conflicts with the statement of the head of state that "for the last seven months, production has been constantly growing and the country's GDP is increasing."

          You know, I have not paid attention to what VVP says for a long time, there is every reason not to believe his words.
          And of course, the situation in the economy is extremely difficult, some industries have almost reset to zero.
          Some were left without export, which took up to half of the volume.
          But still, all the same, the situation is much better than predicted in the theorycraft "what will happen if sanctions of the Iranian level are imposed against the Russian Federation."

          syndicalist (Dimon) I probably lived all the 2000s in some other Russia, in which industrial enterprises, district hospitals and rural schools were closed

          You can tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth - but not the whole truth....

          So, the fact that enterprises, rural schools were closed and some roads were never repaired is, of course, true.

          But the fact of the matter is that it is far from being the whole truth.
          1. -2
            19 March 2023 10: 47
            For example, I did not expect the collapse of our economy, considering such forecasts to be exaggerated (by the way, the negative impact on the EU from the disruption of ties with the Russian Federation turned out to be greater than many thought - the multiplier effect affected). At the same time, it was clear that the difficulties for us would increase if the trade and financial schemes were violated on a large scale and for a long time ...
            1. 0
              19 March 2023 20: 01
              Quote from Vox Populi
              For example, I did not expect the collapse of our economy, considering such forecasts to be exaggerated

              Sanctions were imposed on us in a very specific way.
              In theorycraft, after the start of sanctions, a massive withdrawal of funds from the Russian Federation was to begin, with a rapid collapse of the ruble, the cessation of conversion and the emptying of the shelves, according to the Venezuelan scenario.
              But our partners themselves banned the transfer of money from the Russian Federation, including the payment of loans.
              They themselves froze the capital already withdrawn earlier, showing the oligarchs that there is nowhere to run (that the Arabs / Turks / Indians, etc. can also take everything away - I think no one doubts).
              In general, having jumped above 100 as expected, then the rate rolled back even lower than it was before the CBO.
              As a result, in nominal dollars, GDP-2023 amounted to ~2350 billion $, 2021 was 1776. At the same time, a number of European countries are expected (IMF forecast October 2022) to reduce nominal GDP. (USA always wins)
              A summary table should be released in a month, and opponents of the sanctions policy will be able to troll supporters of sanctions for at least a year.
  8. +3
    17 March 2023 21: 11
    Why didn’t they take Kyiv and agree to negotiations, and then fled ingloriously?
    Putin declares the Regime neo-Nazi, announces its denazification and demilitarization and ..... rolls everything back. That doesn't happen either, right.
    Or did he suddenly decide that the regime is no longer neo-Nazi and that it is possible to be friends at home?
    This again does not work, because after some time he again called the Regime neo-Nazi.

    It seems that Putin is sometimes released and then locked up again.
    And when he is tied up in a cage, then Zakharova, Matvienko, Lavrov and others vied with each other about negotiations.

    They released Putin - and he is tough again.
    Locked up - negotiations are possible ....
    Some sort of theater.
    1. 0
      17 March 2023 23: 34
      Putin was kept bound in a cage for almost a week....

      Yes, yes, in August 1991, the putschist conspirators in Foros also kept Minka Humpbacked in something, but he escaped from them, reptiles, with the help of his faithful wife Raisa Maksimovna, and flew to Moscow. Only now the country of the USSR did not survive all these salto mortale and soon expired.
    2. +5
      18 March 2023 05: 34
      maybe it's the other way around? Putin was kept in a cage on February 24th? well, I mean, when he was writing down his formidable message ... you can kick Zakharova as much as you like, but she didn’t write the Minsk agreements ...

      second, where did you see the rigidity at all? some solid mumbles about nothing ... and stories that if it weren’t for the Polovtsy and the Pechenegs, he would have built and developed everything ... just dances in the style of a step forward and two back are quite in the spirit of Putin
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  10. +1
    18 March 2023 04: 47
    The author is prolific but .... There is no answer to the title in the article
  11. +1
    18 March 2023 07: 12
    Yes, the task was not set to take Kyiv in three days. There was a military-political failure. They climbed with small forces and a wide front, counting on flowers. The time for flowers is long over, in 1992. Did the multi-year billions of discounts for the "fraternal people" on resources help? Nuland with "cookies" has achieved more, and for less money. And the "fraternal people" have a dream - ceevropa. So that someone raked their problems, and "resolved". And they will receive such beautiful buns in the form of subsidies from the EU. They gave it to the Poles. Yes, for "dirty" production and plumbers in London and beyond. But Europe. And Russia ruined their dream. And the fact that everything has already been sold and betrayed for this dream is not a pity, it's for the sake of Europe. Now Russia has to go to the Polish border, for a long time, and with blood. Or in several stages with intermediate "agreements". The beginning of SVO, definitely a failure.
    1. +3
      18 March 2023 08: 26
      And the "fraternal people" have a dream - ceevropa. So that someone raked their problems, and "resolved". And they will receive such beautiful buns in the form of subsidies from the EU. They gave it to the Poles. Yes, for "dirty" production and plumbers in London and beyond. But Europe. And Russia ruined their dream. And the fact that everything has already been sold and betrayed for this dream is not a pity, it's for the sake of Europe.

      For the third quarter of 2022 (July-September), the number of departures of Russians to Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Mongolia and Abkhazia has become a record over the past five years. This follows from the FSB data on the departure of Russians to foreign countries for the third quarter of 2022. In the third quarter, 9,7 million citizens left Russia, which is almost twice as many as in the second quarter (5 million).

      Pesci ischo about "bad crests" and "spiritually strong Russians" lol
      1. 0
        19 March 2023 02: 20
        I don’t touch Russians at all, in my family I have a whole palette of views, and even about non-natives ... Everyone is responsible for himself.
  12. +5
    18 March 2023 10: 44
    Our leaders, who happened to be in power, began to rapidly steal the wealth and resources of Russia, and also allowed foreign corporations to do this, consider it uncontrollably ... for a bribe, but certainly a lot .. Becoming nouveau riche, without having a deep state thinking (which now it’s clearly visible) they themselves were corrupted by luxury, material wealth and plunged the country into debauchery and shame ... The ruling Russian elite, instead of building aircraft carriers, built yachts and palaces ... Instead of building schools, factories, factories, roads, they bought estates around the world, vineyards .. they sawed cash through foreign banks .. Even the state funds were withdrawn STUPIDLY by buying up American government bonds .. Instead of investing IN THEIR COUNTRY, THEY INVESTED MONEY IN THE USA !!!!
    The same Ukraine, in the face of the thieving Yanukovych, how much dough they swelled - IN ANYWHERE !! IN RUSSIA WHAT, THERE ARE FEW ORPHANS, ARE ALL POLYCLINICS BUILT? DID YOU BUILD ALL THE ROADS? Have ALL LARGE FAMILIES BUYED HOUSES, APARTMENTS, AS PROMISED????
    How many billions of money was mediocrely drained by our leadership???? They are shy about it..
    Regularly demonstrating to the country, to the world, peppy and vivid pictures of "sudden checks", exercises, "tank biathlon", they hoped to replace the fighting vehicle of the Army and Navy with pictures.. But in reality, the country has turned into a paper tiger. EVERYTHING ... ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING is completely rude, and bribe-takers, security officials protect businesses and squeeze out property and assets - this is a picture of modern Russia .. The Minister of Defense led the department for 10 (!!!!!!!!!!!!) years, and when hour "X" came, suddenly (UNEXPECTED) it turned out that the system was absolutely not prepared - the military registration and enlistment offices did not know how to work and what to do, there was no ammunition, there were no means of communication, there was a frank lack of equipment .. And the question is - WHAT ARE YOU ALL THIS TIME DID THE LORD DO IT? AND HOW DO YOU ALLOW YOURSELF IN POWER TO STAY UNDER SUCH JOBS?
    With these jambs, gentlemen rulers, you get a lot of money - salaries, cut the country's budget cheerfully, drive state cars with sirens and flashing lights with non-checkers ... How so?? You have no moral rights to all this .. You are not worthy of such a position ... You don’t pull it .. The country under your pseudo rule is falling apart, the nation is bending, dying out .. Production is falling .. The spirit of the nation is dying, you have no Spirit, you have no idea..
    Shoigu is still the minister ..
    The General Staff of the Armed Forces is also headed by Gerasimov ..
    Siluanov and Nabiulina withdrew huge funds abroad, allowed them to be blocked there - AND ..... THEY STILL TAKE THEIR POSTS THE SAME!!!!
    The two main culprits of the failure and disgrace of the army and the country are all at their posts, but where should they be ??
    At least they were fired.
    And against the background of all this, our leadership decided to start a war. regime... Ukrofascists have become insolent... so much so that they started pounding Russia, they killed Daria Dugina, they blew up the bridge, they kill Russian citizens, they regularly shell Bryansk, Belgorod... The Nazis frenziedly pound and pound Donetsk... The Russian leadership is parallel to everything of this ... Mobilization, with such conduct of actions, should have been announced already on February 25 ... UNIVERSAL .. They lasted until September, incurring huge losses, incurring huge reputational losses .. The whole world is looking at us and freaking out with the Russians - HOW THEY TOLERATE SUCH USURPERS OF POWER????? WHY ARE THEY ALLOWING THEM TO BE FUCKED ABOUT THEM????
    The political leadership of Russia is incompetent, deceitful and hypocritical...
    That is why the Russian Army is not able to fulfill its mission...
    It was not necessary to occupy Kiev in three days .. But the Russian leadership was obliged to carry out a lightning action to bring the fascist regime to life .. For the sake of the Russians, for the sake of peace in the world .. If the leaders of Russia had state thinking, positive thinking .. And this they don’t, and as you can see, they DO NOT strive for this .. And then only the situation will change for the better when this leadership leaves ... at least resign !!!
    RESIGN!!
    1. -3
      18 March 2023 13: 01
      The head of the PMC "Wagner" answered the question of The New York Times about the alleged last frontier of the "Wagnerites" in Artyomovsk (Bakhmut).
      According to the head of the "musicians" Yevgeny Prigozhin, the information that the city of Artyomovsk is the last frontier of the Wagner group is an internal showdown and should not be talked about.
      He also added that after the occupation of Artyomovsk, many directions will be opened. The world has not yet really encountered the Russian army, well-trained units.
      According to Prigozhin, they are all waiting in the wings, and when it comes, Bakhmut will be taken and "the whole world will shudder."

      Get off the capslock, Zhorik, don't yell, don't swear. Drink some water, calm down. If you are hungry, go home, mommy will give you cereal, and you will feel better. lol
    2. +2
      18 March 2023 13: 23
      It can be seen that suffering has been said. One can only agree. And it is not clear why they started the war at all, gave in to the request of NATO, or something ...
      1. 0
        18 March 2023 20: 06
        Quote: Orest Stetsyuk
        And it is not clear why they started the war at all, gave in to the request of NATO, or something ...

        In principle, this is confirmed by everyone, including Putin. Everyone says that: "We were provoked." It turns out that knowing about this, we went to this provocation.
    3. -5
      18 March 2023 20: 40
      Properly stated!
      There are many things you can add, but you don't want to. Two words about the same thing: the thieves' power of our still state, led by its distraught "roof", could not only prevent this war, but also make sure that the same Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states, not to mention Central Asia , they themselves would ask for Russia! For this, a lot would not be needed. Just don't steal!!
      When the standard of living of ordinary people in the country would be like in Switzerland, for example, there would be no end to those who want to live in Russia!
      What kind of war?
      With whom?
      chose a different path. Palaces, vineyards, offshore companies are bursting with money, yachts worth seventy billion rubles are sailing - and here it is, the result ...
    4. +1
      18 March 2023 22: 44
      General mobilization? Do you have any idea what would happen to the economy? The 90s would seem like heaven. Now is not 41 years old, and the Russian Federation is not the USSR.
      1. 0
        21 March 2023 17: 39
        Quote: Vega (Eugene)
        General mobilization? Do you have any idea what would happen to the economy?

        What can happen to something that doesn't exist?
        Here, the mobilization and decisive actions of the RF Armed Forces could already lead to victory.
        And the current collusion will bring us all either to 1917, take two, or to nuclear armageddon. (IMHO)
  13. +2
    18 March 2023 11: 06
    Dear author, in Iraq, a quick victory for the United States was ensured by the fifth column. All other US actions (massive missile and bomb strikes) are to create a psychological atmosphere for the successful actions of the 5th column. In Ukraine, initially the military actions had the same goal - to create a psychological atmosphere for the seizure of power by the 5th column. Alas, NATO intelligence agencies lured Russia into a trap. War is always a confrontation of the parties. But was the entire first stage a complete failure? Certainly not. The maximum program was not implemented, but the water blockade of Crimea was ended and an alternative land corridor was created, strategic territories were seized .. And this is worth a lot. But the most important thing is that liberation from the colonial yoke of the West began in the political and economic life of Russia. In fact, it was obvious even to not very informed people that Ukraine was a trap. Then why did the leadership of the Russian Federation put its head into this trap. I will not assume for the Russian leadership, but personally I would do it if I had the opportunity to inflict a devastating preemptive strike on the United States and its allies. Then why try hard in Ukraine, turning into ruins, in fact, their land? She will already "fall at her feet" after the defeat of the main enemy. But if I'm right, then the unfolding events clearly fit into this scenario. Let's face it, the scenario is terrible and seemingly inevitable. However, we'll wait, we'll see if we live
    1. +2
      18 March 2023 11: 46
      Annihilating blow? Are you so eager to turn into nuclear ashes, or what?
      1. -8
        18 March 2023 13: 17
        They simply do not think ... those who hope for a nuclear war as a solution and a way out of the impasse into which the country has been driven, so beloved by them, it is clear who. Nothing to think. There are no brains. Stupid pride caught the eyes, and propaganda ate the brains. They do not think that wanting to burn their own, as they decided on the "enemy", together with themselves, they thus decided to kill me, my family and my relatives, as well as those who are dear to me. On what basis? Who gave them such a right? So, who then, in this case, is the enemy for me?
        1. 0
          18 March 2023 13: 23
          wishing to burn their own, as they decided the "enemy" along with themselves, he thus decided to kill me, my family and my relatives, as well as those who are dear to me. On what basis? Who gave them such a right? So, who then, in this case, is the enemy for me?

          Take it easy.
          As they used to say, the wrong dog bites the bark.
        2. -1
          18 March 2023 22: 50
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          They simply do not think ... those who hope for a nuclear war as a solution and a way out of the impasse into which the country has been driven, so beloved by them, it is clear who. Nothing to think. There are no brains. Stupid pride caught the eyes, and propaganda ate the brains. They do not think that wanting to burn their own, as they decided on the "enemy", together with themselves, they thus decided to kill me, my family and my relatives, as well as those who are dear to me. On what basis? Who gave them such a right? So, who then, in this case, is the enemy for me?

          No, why not, you can give up, kneel down and repent. And what does it fundamentally decide? You and your children will still die. The difference is that you can die a free man, or you can die a slave. The problem is that you do not feel like a cell of society, and the human society, consisting of individualists, inevitably perishes. By the way, in Ukraine this was understood long ago, no one can stand on ceremony with people like you. You never know what you thought of yourself there, I’m also a person! There, either pay a lot of money or go to the front.
      2. -3
        18 March 2023 22: 36
        Quote: Vega (Eugene)
        Annihilating blow? Are you so eager to turn into nuclear ashes, or what?

        And you probably have not yet understood that human civilization is a jungle where the weak are devoured. I don't want to turn into nuclear ashes at all, I'm just stating an objective reality. Mankind does not have the ability to control its population, it destroys the biosphere of the earth and in order not to destroy the planet, it must sharply decrease in numbers. So the question is at the expense of whom this will be done - at the expense of the golden billion or at the expense of everyone else? Everything else is lyrics. In our civilization, what is scarce has value, and human life, unfortunately, has not been scarce for a long time.
        1. +3
          18 March 2023 22: 41
          If you really want to get rid of the golden billion and save the earth's biosphere, then go to the trenches and fight there personally. Don't decide for 140 million Russians that it's time for them to die.
    2. +1
      18 March 2023 15: 20
      The Americans were able to create this very fifth column, but for some reason we are not. I strongly doubt that they have spent even one percent of the expenses that Russia has already spent on this war.
  14. -4
    18 March 2023 13: 20
    with the number of troops that were sent to Kiev, it was not realistic to take this Russian city, the goal was to pull back a large number of fascist forces and demoralize the enemy, which was done, but at what cost, we will someday know about this
    1. +3
      18 March 2023 13: 32
      Yeah, and Gostomel was also a distraction operation, and not an attempt to repeat the Danube operation. Obviously, the calculation was that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would drop their weapons and surrender, and a coup would take place in Kyiv.
      1. +1
        18 March 2023 15: 22
        Are you implying that the leadership of Russia is nothing but fools?
        1. -4
          18 March 2023 20: 45
          Of course not!
          Just thieves...
  15. +2
    19 March 2023 00: 41
    Marzhetsky in his repertoire. So why didn't they take Kyiv in three days? Did you want to? And then what to do with it? Well, about Iraq in general, an ambush.
  16. -1
    19 March 2023 11: 03
    The author is not friendly with arithmetic and logic. Kyiv in the Second World War was liberated by the forces of the 1st Ukrainian Front, which included: 13th Army
    27-th Army
    38-th Army
    40-th Army
    47-th Army
    60-th Army
    3rd Guards Tank Army
    2nd Air Army. In addition, we were met by the friendly population of Soviet Ukraine. The population of Kyiv in 2022 was 2. And what forces did the Russian army have in the spring of 950. The author go to school, learn arithmetic.
  17. -2
    20 March 2023 14: 55
    Why didn't they take Kyiv in 3 days? Because the entry into the conflict was forced. When the understanding came that Ukraine was working on the creation of nuclear weapons, all that remained was to act.
    1. 0
      21 March 2023 20: 44
      Quote from: pavel spb
      Why didn't they take Kyiv in 3 days? Because the entry into the conflict was forced. When the understanding came that Ukraine was working on the creation of nuclear weapons, all that remained was to act.

      wassat Masterpiece !!! lol
  18. 0
    21 March 2023 04: 06
    Network-centric combat is powerful, ours are simply obliged to move in this direction, unless of course there are other such volumetric collisions ahead
  19. 0
    24 March 2023 16: 10
    Maybe because I didn't mean to? Considering that it is necessary to save the life of the zombies. This came from Ukrainian propaganda, although in fact the Kyiv region had already been taken in less than a month.