What is the war of "renaming" Russia and Ukraine

The decision of President Zelensky to “rename” Russia into Muscovy caused a lot of ridicule and a stream of witticisms in our country. Ex-president of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev, who proposed his own response to the “renaming” of Ukraine, could not pass by and not hype on the informational occasion. Everyone laughs, but it's not clear why there is so much fun in the second year of the NWO.

War of "renames"

A petition with a proposal to rename the Russian Federation into the Moscow Federation, and the Russian language into Moscow appeared in Ukraine last fall. Its author, a certain Valeria Shakhvorostova, is convinced that Russia "captured the history of Kievan Rus", and its forced renaming should become a "powerful information move" at the international level. There is nothing surprising in the fact that such a proposal in modern Nezalezhnaya quickly gained a sufficient number of signatories under it, no.

Interestingly, President Zelensky personally became interested in the initiative, who instructed the government to work it out:

The issue raised in the petition requires careful study both in the plane of the historical and cultural context, and taking into account possible international legal consequences. In view of the above, I turned to the Prime Minister of Ukraine with a request for its comprehensive study.

Naturally, Runet exploded with a stream of witty comments. Riding this wave, of course, was Deputy Head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev:

Our answer? No, of course not Hohlandia. And certainly not Little Russia. Only Schweinisch Bandera-Reich. Exact!

Also reacted negatively to Zelensky's initiative, for some reason calling him a "bunker president", the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova:

Every day proves us right. Here is another evidence of an attempt to create "anti-Russia" from Ukraine.

Why, on sound reflection, is it not at all a laughing matter?

The struggle of meanings

Everyone who did not study history from independent Ukrainian textbooks knows that the term Muscovy was not a self-name, but was originally a Latin name used for the political and geographical designation of the Russian kingdom in Western sources in parallel with the names "Ruthenia", "Russia" or "Rus". The negative connotation of this term arose from the turn of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, when it began to be actively used for propaganda purposes.

The Polish-Lithuanian state, which during the period of feudal fragmentation gained control over vast ancient Russian lands, tried to provide an ideological justification for why Moscow had no right to them. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia, which subjugated the territory of Southwestern Rus', basically called the Grand Duchy of Moscow, which united Northeastern Rus', Muscovy, and its population - Muscovites. Thanks to the activities of Polish-Lithuanian propagandists, this name migrated to other Catholic countries in Europe, primarily to Italy and France.

However, in 1500-1503, during the next Russian-Lithuanian war, Ivan III officially took the title of "sovereign of all Rus'." Peter I, who in 1721 became the All-Russian Emperor, finally put an end to this issue. Since the XNUMXth century, the term Muscovy began to be used in our country as a borrowing in a purely historical context to refer to pre-Petrine Rus' in contrast to the Russian Empire. It would seem that this could stop, but no.

In the XNUMXth century in Poland, where its sections were extremely painfully perceived, among the intelligentsia they again returned to this topic. Historian Franciszek Duchinsky developed an openly racist Turanian theory about the supposedly Asian origin of the Muscovites. They say that the Muscovites are not Slavs at all, but a branch of the Turanian family along with the Mongols, and their Muscovite language is an artificially borrowed and corrupted Church Slavonic language. True Russians are the Little Russians and Belarusians supposedly close to the Poles in their origin. The border between "Muscovites-Asians", wild barbarians, and "true Aryans" (Poles and Rusyns) allegedly runs along the Dnieper. To protect "civilized and enlightened Europe" from Muscovy, Poland, including Little and White Russia, modern Ukraine and Belarus, had to play the role of a buffer.

As you can see, all the main theses of this racist pseudo-scientific theory are accepted and actively used by modern Ukrainian and Western propaganda. I remember that renaming Ukraine to Rus-Ukraine, taking away the “Russians” brand from us back in September 2021, long before the start of the NWO, was suggested by the then adviser to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine Oleksiy Arestovich:

It is necessary to take away the brand “Russians” from them, in the end ... Rus' is us ... Russes, Rusyns, as we were also called ... I would change the name of the state. Would have called us Rus-Ukraine, would have made a double name.

How seriously this historic struggle of meanings is taken by Russia's geopolitical adversaries can be judged by the recent statement of Polish President Andrzej Duda:

I say: Vladimir, looking at our history, how these paths once parted, I beg you - when you defeat Russia, when the Russians come here on their knees to sign peace, then lead them to Pereyaslav, let them sign peace with you there, let all those years of Soviet and Russian influence be crossed out and this captivity from the time of tsarism until recently, from which you are now again defending yourself.

Recall that it was in Pereyaslavl in 1654 that an agreement, or Rada, was signed on the entry of the Zaporozhian Army into the Russian kingdom on the rights of autonomy between Hetman Bogdan Khmelnitsky and the Russian Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich. For Russia, this event was the most important stage in the process of collecting ancient Russian lands, and for the Commonwealth - the beginning of the end.

And now, in the second year of the CBO, everything is back to normal. Instead of barbarian Muscovites, now there are “orcs”, from whom “true Aryans” with crosses on tanks and specific tattoos on their bodies, they say, protect “enlightened and civilized Europe”. What is sad is that modern Russia, unlike Poland, does not see any sane integration project for Ukraine in the second year of the NWO. But geopolitical opponents have projects for the "decolonization" of the Russian Federation itself, which is directly говорил and President Putin himself, mentioning "Muscovites and Urals."

In summary, I would like to note that the outcome of this war will be decided not only in the steppes and forests of Ukraine, but also in the minds of people. That is why we regularly and consistently urge to ensure that, in order to bring the Victory closer and integrate post-war Ukraine with Russia, to form a controlled project of a certain Little Russian Federation as opposed to Medvedev's Schweinisch Bandera-Reich. The enemy is much smarter and more cunning and is waging war on all fronts, including ideological ones. If we really want to win, we need to learn from him.
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  1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 12 March 2023 12: 50
    The decision of President Zelensky to “rename” Russia into Muscovy caused a lot of ridicule and a stream of witticisms in our country.

    MOSCOW, March 11 - RIA Novosti. Volodymyr Zelensky instructed Prime Minister of Ukraine Denis Shmyhal to "thoroughly work out" the possibility of renaming Russia to Muscovy, the Ukrainian edition Strana.ua reports, citing a statement on the website of Zelensky's office.

    No need to run ahead of the locomotive: he just instructed "to work it out carefully."
    And on the other hand, don't we care what they call us? Let them turn over there.
  2. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 12 March 2023 12: 50
    can you imagine how much paper Marzhetsky would consume writing his horses on paper, write, write, the Internet is bottomless, that’s enough for you
    discuss the cocaine nonsense of the dying USSR and its inhabitants, seriously? unless you use drugs yourself
    1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
      Kofesan (Valery) 13 March 2023 05: 09
      Wait for sound thoughts from the Nazis? ... there is no point. All the same, they will be turned into dreams of torture and suffering for a neighbor ... And to discuss the sick nonsense of sadists ...

      Rather, they would have been destroyed, along with their UGI worldview ...
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  4. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 12 March 2023 12: 54
    Yes, one must and must learn from the enemy, if there is anything. And there is one, and the enemy is always one step ahead. As for the racial nonsense of that Pole about the Muscovites-Mongols, everything is clear, this is wild nonsense, but still the working program of the West to erase Russians from history. However, the idea of ​​"real Rus'" lies on the surface and is understandable to all real Russophobes, and besides, it can be easily implemented. If “Muscovy” is officially involved in the Anglo-Saxon world, then the UN and other riffraff will follow, and the “RF” will no longer be in the UN, anywhere, and “real Rus'” will take its place in the UN Security Council. The Chinese will once again protest the pro-form and follow the Anglo-Saxons, and all the quasi-friends will follow them, all these Brixes, the CIS and so on. All this is very serious. It's time to completely destroy the cancerous tumor "outskirts", by all (!) Available means as soon as possible, once and for all. Procrastination is like death. Special circumstances call for special measures!
  5. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 12 March 2023 12: 58
    I already said, not a war, but an anecdote. Stirlitz and Chapaev are resting
  6. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 March 2023 13: 20
    I propose to amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation.


    Chapter 1. Fundamentals of the constitutional system
    Article 1
    1. Russian Federation - Russia is a democratic federal rule of law with a republican form of government.
    2. The names of the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent.

    In the new edition:

    Chapter 1. Fundamentals of the constitutional system
    Article 1
    1. Russia is a democratic federal legal state with a republican form of government.
    Only paragraph 1 is retained without the Russian Federation, paragraph 2 is excluded.
    Every citizen in his passport can see that he is a citizen of the Russian Federation, but not Russia.
    The word Federation means the structure of the state. The name is a noun.
    Our Motherland, Fatherland is called RUSSIA.
  7. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 12 March 2023 13: 21
    Muscovy so Muscovy, let it be. In response, rename Ukraine not into Bandero-land, as D.A. Medvedev suggested, but into Little Russia.
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 12 March 2023 13: 38
    These games are never played alone.
    Whatever names they came up with online for the "Russians" who live there and don't nod at TV to Putin, but nod against the Kremlin...

    And the rest - alas, you can see the "negative selection" in our country is possibly higher than in Ukraine ... (since they are just dozing on the messages of HIMSELF right on the air)
  9. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 12 March 2023 13: 46
    Following this logic, Ukraine should be renamed Kievan Rus, or simply Rus. Zelensky foresaw this?
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 13 March 2023 09: 25
      They have been practicing this for a long time, you are hopelessly behind the times.
  10. bubla5 Offline bubla5
    bubla5 12 March 2023 14: 31
    Why pay attention to the patient, let him call him whatever he wants
  11. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 12 March 2023 14: 39
    Joke on topic. If you remember the history, so defeated the Khazar Jewish leadership moved to Kyiv. This means that Ukraine should be called Khazaria, and the same Jews are in power: Zelinsky, Rezun, Poroshenko, etc., with the assistance of US Jews (Blinken, Biden, Pellosi, etc.). And according to history, again the Russians will have to defeat this Khazaria ..
  12. Hiker Online Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 12 March 2023 15: 19
    You write that Putin does not need to seize the regions of Ukraine on this bank of the Dnieper ... (?)
    And somehow you try to justify the creation of some new pseudo-Ukraine, which will become "anti-Ukraine" (as part of Russia) on this coast (?)
    Both the first and second are wrong.

    You need to listen to Putin and what he says.
    If he said that the neo-Nazi regime, it means only one thing - the decapitation, destruction and disorganization of the regime. Everything else is the lyrics of the Russian Foreign Ministry.
    Putin does not leave them a chance and they either run away or are suicide bombers.

    A state that has lost its vertical of power is no longer a state.
    Remember Crimea.

    When the levers of power are lost, external forces come into play.
    There will be a new Yalta for the division of Ukraine and spheres of influence.

    Putin, on the other hand, needs guarantees of Russia's security, and the West is thinking about it...
    So why should Putin win and lay down the lives of soldiers when it is possible to agree on a division without Ukraine...

    Isn't this what Poland, Hungary, the USA are waiting for?
    So much for joining Russia as regions of the entire bank of the Dnieper and the south.
    Ukraine is the size of Belarus. Poland - Lvov, Hungary - their own.
    I would give Belarus Polesskaya Venice - for order.

    Section - this is the compensation mechanism.
    I won’t be surprised if the Americans have already discussed their entry into some mega-projects for lithium, etc. with Russia. Trillions are buried there.

    Ukraine has already been written off, but it is the agreement on the section that determines both the hostilities and the agenda.

    Zelensky better run.
    As soon as his friends start asking for resignation, the process has begun.
    As Russia, Poland and the United States agree on something (and they agree), Zelya will not have a chance.

    Ukraine will remain as a member of the UN and join the EU.
    And already with the new President and in the new reality.
    Without gifts from Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev...
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    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 13 March 2023 11: 24
      Dmitriy, no need to guess what Vladimir Putin needs. He does his job very well. laughing
  13. Azvozdam Offline Azvozdam
    Azvozdam (Azvozdam) 12 March 2023 19: 18
    It's amazing! So many people reacted to the statements ... I even find it difficult to find the appropriate word, crazy creatures. And in all seriousness they explain and teach the history of Russia. And they don’t even understand that, voluntarily or not, they sink to their level. Or maybe they they are like that, huh? Normal people will tell you once, who didn’t know, will find out.
    1. Hiker Online Hiker
      Hiker (Dmitriy) 12 March 2023 19: 51
      Disagree. Why crazy?
      History, religion, borders - they are like plasticine and everyone sculpts in their own way.
      Poland sees the Commonwealth
      Someone in Belarus talks about the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Zhamoit and Russia ...
      Putin revives the empire and something even succeeds ....
      In Ukraine, they decided to put in their 2 kopecks, what if Russia falls down ...
      Now, if you had fired a B-52 at St. Petersburg and Moscow yesterday?

      Today is the strangest thing.
      These are the fences that were built on the border of Belarus, Russia, the Baltic states and (are being built) of Ukraine, Finland ...
      Someone also writes about crazy Europeans and worthless fences from a military point of view ...
      They are of no use, except for one thing - containment of biologically infected ...
  14. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 13 March 2023 09: 44
    Well, that's what we've been waiting for. The Jews opened a new season of great Jewish geographical discoveries.
    zeZe / pseudo Zelensky /, from overconsumption of drugs / coke /, the remnants of what replaced his brains in the light of stupidity “discovered” that Russia will no longer exist, but will be, according to his Jewish desire, “Muscovy” ...
    According to this cunning plan, he thinks / I wonder what / that he will be able to avoid the dock and get off with a ward with patients whose, the earth is flat, America is closed, and Napoleons, like uncut dogs ...
    Since zeZe actually destroyed what was once called Ukraine, the remnants of what is still fluttering deserve an appropriate definition. And better than embodied on the site of Dnepropetrovsk, Kolomoisky gido _Bandera, a Jew, a banker and a war criminal, you can’t imagine.
    Schweinizraєi is the name of that cloaca. For six months or a year, I think it does not matter.
  15. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 13 March 2023 10: 00
    Russia should take the initiative and be the first to rename the non-state Ukraine.
    You can call the Kyiv authorities in defiance - Anti-Russia.
    Although it would be better to sound "Pig Farm" or "Pig Reich", taking into account the love of raguli for bacon and Bandera.
  16. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 13 March 2023 11: 02
    What our comrade stated today, Marzhecki, looks like an old liberal plan to destroy Russia. yes

    It is also interesting to listen to Mikhail Khazin. He, a little earlier, voiced the version with Khazaria.

    PS We must ourselves build historical justice on the mainland. Nobody will do it for us.
  17. For the Russian army 13 March 2023 13: 34
    No Little Russia, Khazaria, etc. are needed .... There was and was trying to revive a brand like Novorossia. That's what you need to rely on. When they write to me in the networks "orcs", I found an answer for them. The character of the opera "The Wedding at Goncharivtsy" is Stetsko. Works. Because they know who he is. In Russian schools, it is imperative to introduce a section of the subject of history - "Rus" with the predominant number of hours of its study. Ideologically, the enemy can only defeat a stupid opponent. Therefore, only knowledge can save us from defeat. "Knowledge makes a person free." Learn friends and teach others.
  18. RUR Offline RUR
    RUR 18 March 2023 15: 50
    that the term Muscovy was not a self-name, but was originally a Latin name used for the political and geographical designation of the Russian kingdom in Western sources

    - it's just an abbreviation for the Principality of Moscow - that was then the official name
  19. RUR Offline RUR
    RUR 18 March 2023 16: 02
    However, in 1500-1503, during the next Russian-Lithuanian war, Ivan III officially took the title of "sovereign of all Rus'."

    Ivan III simply put on Monomakh's hat - the then Russian "crown", and declared himself king ... the then Polish king in a letter to the prince / king asked what this means? The king replied that, like, whoever wears a Monomakh's hat, like, of Byzantine origin, he becomes a king ... In Europe, it became different - there he had to be recognized by the Pope and other kings / emperors. The Monomakh hat itself - a skullcap of Mongolian / Horde / steppe origin with later decoration elements of Moscow origin - this is how the hat is identified in many historical works, including Russian ones, Wikipedia, etc.
  20. RUR Offline RUR
    RUR 18 March 2023 16: 11
    Historian Franciszek Duchinsky developed an openly racist Turanian theory about the supposedly Asian origin of the Muscovites. They say that the Muscovites are not Slavs at all, but a branch of the Turanian family along with the Mongols, and their Muscovite language is an artificially borrowed and corrupted Church Slavonic language. True Russians are the Little Russians and Belarusians supposedly close to the Poles in their origin.

    Franciszek Duchinsky simply wrote what Danilevsky, Dal (author of the dictionary), modern genetic studies (I can give a link) later confirmed that Russians have a significant non-Slavic element, for example, Finno-Ugric - Chud, Mordovians, etc. I would call Franciszek Duchinsky the creator of the Eurasian/Eurasian theory, which is very popular in Russia... and no one seems to call it racist... But genetically, though, for example, Belarusians are closer to Poles... geography is destiny