"Muscovites" and "Urals": why President Putin himself spoke about the collapse of Russia

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The message to the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, which President Putin delivered on February 21, 2023, left behind a feeling of great understatement. It was devoted mainly to socio-economic issues, which created the impression that the Russian army currently does not have any special problems in the NVO zone and that everything is going according to a plan that was planned a year ago.

The obvious irritation of the patriotic public about the lack of specifics about the course and prospects of the special operation forced President Putin and ex-President Medvedev to make several important clarifications that can be considered programmatic. We will analyze the articles of Dmitry Anatolyevich separately, and in this publication we will talk about the main theses expressed by Vladimir Vladimirovich in an interview with the Rossiya 1 TV channel for the Moscow. Kremlin. Putin."



START


During his February 21 address, President Putin announced the need to suspend Russia's participation in the treaty between the Russian Federation and the United States on measures to further reduce and limit strategic offensive arms, or START III. It was signed back in 2010 under President Medvedev for a period of 10 years, entered into force in 2011, and in 2021 was extended for 5 years.

In accordance with this bilateral agreement, Moscow and Washington pledged to reduce the number of deployed nuclear warheads to 1550 units, intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles and heavy bombers to 700 units. The parties also agreed on mutual control over nuclear weapons, including visits and inspections of military facilities. True, the practice of American inspections failed in 2020 due to the pandemic, and in 2022 due to sanctions.

And in February 2023, Russia's participation in this agreement was suspended. Vladimir Putin explained the reasons for his decision as follows:

Among other things, when they are doing what they are doing today in Ukraine, I simply cannot imagine that American military personnel will roam around our nuclear facilities. This is ridiculous.

In addition, the president made it clear that the new agreement, if signed, should not be bilateral, but multilateral, given the nuclear arsenals of Britain and France:

Well, of course. After all, at one time we went to put them out of the equation, bearing in mind both detente and the fact that NATO declared itself to be almost a demilitarized organization.

Thus, there is a clear increase in the stakes in the game from the Kremlin and an invitation to create a new configuration of strategic security in the post-war world.

"Loops of Anaconda"


Also in Putin’s interview, one can see a call to the satellite countries of the United States to stop being their weak-willed puppets, which dutifully follow Washington’s course to their own detriment:

Among other things, they probably think that in this case, the fight against Russia is the same interest that they have with the States. And even the satellites are involved in this joint struggle, but nevertheless they are well aware that everything that the States do is in line with their selfish interests only.

Well, what are the interests of the allies when they adopted appropriate laws to combat inflation and so on and so forth and lure European business to their territory? Well, what is allied here? Yes, or they took and took away an order for submarines in Australia from France, and everyone just humiliated the country, and everyone washed up, said “thank you very much, come back.”

It must be assumed that this is done by chance in conjunction with the light waving of the "nuclear mace". The internal disintegration of the anti-Russian coalition of fifty countries could be the first step towards breaking the "Anaconda Loop", about which we told earlier.

By the way, the way ordinary Germans strewed flowers on a wrecked Russian tank, mockingly displayed by the Ukrainian side in Berlin, speaks volumes in itself. The Western world is not united and not monolithic, it is necessary to work with it. The pressure that the Russian media, oriented towards foreign audiences, are now under, is clear evidence of the Anglo-Saxons' fear of an "anti-war revolt" in their own rear. "Raid" is just there suggests itself.

"Muscovites" and "Urals"


Of course, the most powerful part of the interview can be considered Putin’s statement about what fate these “Western partners” have in store for Russia and its people in case of defeat:

They have one goal, to dismantle the former Soviet Union and its main part - the Russian Federation. And then, perhaps, they will accept us into the so-called family of civilized peoples, but only separately, each part separately.

If we follow this path, then the fate of many peoples of Russia, and above all the Russian people, may change dramatically. I don't even know if such an ethnic group as the Russian people can survive in the form in which it exists today. There will be some Muscovites, Urals and so on.

Well, finally, not some journalist or blogger speaks directly about this, but the head of state personally. Indeed, the collapse of the country into several dozen quasi-states, which will clash with each other in a continuous Civil War - 2, is a proven way to destroy the opponents of the Anglo-Saxon world. Divide and rule! About how realistic the external and internal threat of "decolonization" of the Russian Federation is, we told previously. The situation is very simple: either Ukraine or Russia will be preserved according to the results of the SVO, there is no third way. And here it would be very good to remember the fate of Yugoslavia, how it fell apart and how its former head Slobodan Milosevic ended up. This story is extremely instructive.

At the same time, the story about “Muscovites and Urals”, voiced personally by President Putin, can reasonably be considered his appeal to the deep Russian people, who are now most afraid of a repetition of the events of 1991. Appealing to this fear, Vladimir Vladimirovich frankly tries to unite civil society around him:

And this is not a figure of speech, we are all well aware of this: when the people of Russia are united, united, we have no equal. And this is the main condition for all our achievements and all our victories.

The foregoing allows us to conclude that Vladimir Putin has already begun his next presidential campaign, building it around the concept of Russia as a "fortress under siege." There was no specifics about the future fate of all of Ukraine, but recently the head of state has again begun to talk about Novorossia and its people, apparently giving hope to the patriotic part of the electorate.
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  1. +2
    27 February 2023 12: 14
    GDP is trying to scare the West with the collapse of Russia and the horror that may be in connection with this. It looks like the rest of the scarecrows are ending, should we prepare for a humiliating world?
  2. +13
    27 February 2023 12: 17
    Moscow itself indulges the collapse of Russia by allowing the existence of a viper called "Yeltsin Center" (well, or something with a different name). This is not allowed in any country in the world
  3. -6
    27 February 2023 12: 26
    Everything would be fine, but you can’t convince the author that no one has any fear from the events of 1991! And it is foolish to say that using this fear, Putin is consolidating society around him personally. No, he is consolidating the people to defend the Motherland. It does not matter who will be at the head of the state. Putin is not eternal, unfortunately. Well, the idea of ​​the fate of Milosevic sounded quite stupid as a kind of hint that such a fate awaits Putin. And the Russian people are not going to break up into Muscovites, Urals and others. Can't wait
    1. +3
      27 February 2023 12: 45
      And weak states do not ask what they want. They will put a puppet at the helm and will give instructions, up to a squabble with neighbors. I think everyone understands that what is happening now and what decisions are being made by the leadership of Western countries are far from being supported by their people. In 2022, the rallies and their brutal dispersal, as well as the persecution of dissenting media, showed that they would not be allowed to think differently.
    2. GIS
      -5
      28 February 2023 10: 04
      he consolidates the people to defend the motherland. It does not matter who will be at the head of the state. Putin is not eternal, unfortunately.

      fully agree with you on this.
      Unfortunately, we do not see the whole picture that the GDP has outlined for the country, BUT the fact that it collects it piecemeal, strengthens the country as an independent and sovereign power, cleans us from rot in the heads of us - ordinary people, only the blind do not notice.
      I understand that now your minusers are throwing objections that supposedly nothing good has been done for 30 years, and so on and so forth. but it's all blinders in their heads. The country was before them, and will be after them.
      so Oleg Georgievich I'm with you!
  4. -1
    27 February 2023 12: 29
    The funny thing is that the Kazakhs already see Chelyabinsk, Barnaul and the whole Altai as part of the Republic of Kazakhstan. It's amazing how much insanity can grow. Some zhuzes and Kalmykia have their tea.
    1. 0
      27 February 2023 19: 57
      What did they smoke? Do not share?
  5. +5
    27 February 2023 12: 29
    it's just time to move the capital to Siberia and close the issue once and for all
    1. 0
      1 March 2023 19: 58
      If you know the history, Peter called "Petersburg" the 1st capital. Moscow was a thief and until 2023 they are robbing all of Russia
  6. -1
    27 February 2023 12: 33
    Quote: nike
    Moscow itself indulges the collapse of Russia by allowing the existence of a viper called "Yeltsincenter" (well, or something with a different name). Such a thing is not allowed in a water country in the world

    Probably, you have not been to Europe ... France is all divided: one region mocks another, England has been buzzing like a beehive for centuries because of the forces from the center of the acting ones, Germany is also not calm - everyone has been gathered in a herd to war with Russia. They have no other options to live together.
  7. +6
    27 February 2023 12: 55
    Empty shaking of air. Intentions not supported by any actions remain empty. For 20 years in power, the president has made so many promises and put forward so many plans that have not been implemented that only a rosy optimist can take anything he says seriously. The economic system that has been created in the country for 30 years and which has already proven its inefficiency is not in danger, and therefore talking about any plans is nothing more than "catching a hype."
    1. +2
      27 February 2023 14: 48
      About the economic system: Capitalism in Russia and capitalism in Germany are two big differences. What's the matter? It would be worth talking about in a whole article. Our main problem is that we do not have a normal society that in many cases would say no to the outrages that we have. Therefore, corruption and injustice flourish in our country. In addition, Russia has poorly educated people.
      1. +2
        1 March 2023 20: 18
        Agree! We don't have an electoral system. Often flew on business trips. In the elections in the Orenburg region. (Ilek) voted (of course against); I am from Leningrad. Then he sat at the entrance for a long time. The voters had no work: the virgin land, which gave work and 40% of Russia's grain, was not processed. You can explain how they voted. After 4 days in Orenburg, a message: the region voted for GDP
    2. 0
      27 February 2023 20: 00
      Plus. Agree unequivocally.
  8. +4
    27 February 2023 13: 01
    They cheated there, they cheated here. But why is it so difficult to deceive a simple man who can explain the truth on his fingers? And here please. Approach any old man, and he will explain that the West has never been our friend. But why are they so gullible at the very top. There are many explanations. But it is better not to write about them.
    1. +5
      27 February 2023 13: 21
      Quote from: unc-2
      They cheated there, they cheated here. But why is it so difficult to deceive a simple man who can explain the truth on his fingers? And here please. Approach any old man, and he will explain that the West has never been our friend. But why are they so gullible at the very top. There are many explanations. But it is better not to write about them.

      it's time to write, because everything has already gone too far with this comprador corrupt power
    2. 0
      27 February 2023 18: 42
      Quote from: unc-2
      Approach any old man and he will explain that the west has never been our friend.

      But at the same time, both old and young are very fond of using the benefits of Western technology ...

      oleg Pesotsky In 20 years in power, the president has made so many promises and put forward so many plans

      And what? "How a sovereign must keep his word" Machiavelli wrote in the XNUMXth century.
      Who did not master -

      in our time, great deeds were only possible for those who did not try to keep their word and knew how to fool whomever they needed; such sovereigns ultimately succeeded much more than those who staked on honesty

      And by the way, all his indignation at the "hypocrisy of the West" is a game for an inexperienced public.
      If anyone deceived him, then it was his own agents from Ukraine.

      oleg Pesotsky The economic system that has been created in the country for 30 years and which has already proved its inefficiency

      The economy of the Russian Federation has been under the most severe sanctions for a year now - but it works and develops quite well.
      So on the contrary, the economy has fully proved its effectiveness.
      1. +2
        27 February 2023 20: 40
        You quite logically stated your point of view, but this statement looks rather controversial:

        The economy of the Russian Federation has been under the most severe sanctions for a year now - but it works and develops quite well.
        So, on the contrary, the economy has fully proved its effectiveness.

        Our economy is only holding its own due to the relatively prompt measures taken to find alternative trade/trade patterns and its underestimated margin of safety. It is a stretch to call such a state of effective development, and it should be understood that the negative effect of sanctions is gradually increasing and it will be possible to talk about economic growth with an even greater degree of conventionality than before. Here, obviously, all hopes are pinned on the fact that in some foreseeable future, China, India, Brazil, etc. will replace the West for us or we will somehow make peace with the latter ...
        1. 0
          28 February 2023 00: 25
          Quote from: Vox_Populi
          Our economy is only taking a hit thanks to relatively quick measures taken to find alternative trading patterns /

          Including the fact that these schemes were looking for a herd of managers who are able to solve such problems and are motivated to do so.
          The same "management system", which showed flexibility and efficiency, in comparison with the state plan.

          But not only trade.
          All the same, this is a big difference - to purchase a container of some missing components, or two echelons of finished products in the assembly.
          Localization in the Russian Federation, as revealed by the crisis, is indeed quite deep.

          Large state-owned companies began to do many things after 2014, although at that time it seemed to have “swept through” economically.

          The expansion of the infrastructure and its ports began well ahead of time, which did not paralyze the BAM with the Trans-Siberian.

          Not to mention agriculture, in which net exports, instead of purchasing grain in tens of million tons.

          Quote from: Vox_Populi
          the negative effect of sanctions is gradually increasing and it will be possible to talk about economic growth with an even greater degree of conventionality

          Of course, not all sanctions had an immediate effect. But it is this protractedness that makes it possible to solve problems sequentially and even with some lead, and not all at once.

          The most failure is now in the production of passenger cars.
          January 23 to January 22 fell 5 times.
          But market participants are not sitting idly by.
          We will follow, since the auto industry is one of the most public sectors, and you can always indirectly evaluate it by the nearest car dealership.
    3. +1
      27 February 2023 20: 01
      Quote from: unc-2
      They cheated there, they cheated here. But why is it so difficult to deceive a simple man who can explain the truth on his fingers? And here please. Approach any old man, and he will explain that the West has never been our friend. But why are they so gullible at the very top. There are many explanations. But it is better not to write about them.

      What about the old man? He lived life. This is the country of old people. And if you approach the young?
      1. +1
        1 March 2023 21: 11
        Youth: your education is bought. Allegedly "Doctors" kill children. Electricians turn off areas without heat, water. Gas workers do not comply with the laws (legislative meeting of July 2, 2008, signed by VI mat vienko No. 489-82 of July 9, 2008). Decree of the Government of St. Petersburg of 09.09.2008 No. 1129. How much has Gazprom robbed pensioners in Sp-B? Untalented in power; they have no laws. The FSB colonel has millions, appointed governors who (share) billions not with Russia.
    4. -1
      28 February 2023 00: 22
      A simple unc man, except for his fingers, is not responsible for anything. Any old man will say that his downstairs neighbor is a blood enemy, so what? Is the external economic structure of the country based on such men and old people? Trade not with friends but trading partners. Some are irresponsible and get an answer. An example of this is a cart and a small cart. And why do we need to be like that too? Will you fill the budget with friends or billions of dollars of non-friends?
  9. +6
    27 February 2023 13: 20
    Putin is Captain Obviousness, he begins to tell the banality that everyone has realized for at least 10 years, but it just dawned on him, although he can be understood because before all Western figures he had partners
  10. +6
    27 February 2023 13: 30
    I don’t know how Vladimir Vladimirovich, acting only with his tongue, will

    to frankly try to rally civil society around him.

    It is, of course, not easy to voice concern for the people for more than twenty years. I do not argue, something has been done, but done precisely to keep the fragment of the USSR from further disintegration, and nothing more. Russia never rose from its knees after the collapse of the USSR.
    What the whole world now has in full view is the weakness of our oil-dependent economy, the terrible state of the army and navy, and the gold reserves stolen by the West, helpfully placed in the pocket of the enemy.

    p / s /
    The efforts of Vladimir Vladimirovich to save Russia from a split, in my uninitiated and philistine opinion, are due more to the preservation of resources for the sake of the oligarchs who manage them, and not to the aspirations to preserve the Russian ethnic group.
    The respected Sergei Marzhetsky himself noted that

    What (Putin) said allows us to conclude that Vladimir Putin has already begun his next presidential campaign.

    - and this is with us, as always = blah blah blah.
    And again about the NWO - How could you start to carry it out with a bare f..y and a full hut of traitors? If Vladimir Vladimirovich was not in the know, such a leader is worthless, but if he was in the know, then what was he counting on?
    Tell me where is the truth?
    1. RUR
      +1
      27 February 2023 15: 11
      How could one begin to carry it out with a naked f..y and a hut full of traitors?

      There was an inflated self-esteem, and not only Putin, many ordinary Russians suffered from this, and now there are a lot of them, judging by many comments, but it’s good that it all came out in a local, and not in a larger war ... the United States also has a somewhat overestimated self-esteem, but the gap between reality and fantasy is not so great... yet...
    2. -5
      28 February 2023 00: 39
      tko, but the truth is that the commies have ruined the country so much that it takes centuries to restore it. Can you tell me where the KGB officers took the gold reserves of the USSR through the VIP passages? *Packages* of 600kg. Well, to the heap what was the gold reserve before and after the collapse of the USSR and where did it go. Otherwise, Putin is to blame for everything. Yes, we all and the whole world need to pray for him! And you're not right! And how do you not know. No one here has ever said it right!
      1. +1
        28 February 2023 11: 35
        Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
        the truth is that the commies so ruined the country

        The period of the USSR was only one of the periods in the history of Russia.
        With its pros and cons.
        But it is absolutely not worth looking for some cons and forget about the pros, as well as vice versa.
        Strongly distorts the current perception of the world.
  11. +5
    27 February 2023 13: 49
    Another 3 explanations/distractions for why things didn't go as promised.

    Moreover, before the NWO, and even after the topic there were, but somehow on the 3rd plane ...
    And then once - and the START was suspended, and after so many years Anaconda was discovered, and from somewhere the Muscovites and the Urals showed up ....
    In general, what not to talk about in front of the dormant "elite", if only not about the main thing ...
  12. 0
    27 February 2023 14: 34
    The social system, state structure, management system, lack of ideology, multinational composition and different levels of social development of the regions are an explosive mixture that is ready to explode at the slightest careless handling. Added to this is the intra-class competition of big capital with a touch of nationalism and the desire to invest in industries that quickly pay off with maximum profitability - extractive industries and the export of raw materials, trade, light industry, and the service sector, which runs counter to the hope of the people and the desire of the President to establish the Russian Federation as a great world power not only on the basis of the size of the territory, but primarily on the basis of its economic development. This is all the more relevant, because in the absence of a unifying ideology and unity of the proletariat of all nations and peoples, economic demands and living standards come to the fore, which became the main goal of the sanctions imposed against the Russian Federation in order to undermine the economy, social stability and the collapse of the Russian Federation.
  13. +8
    27 February 2023 18: 13
    ... when the people of Russia are united, united, we have no equal ...

    What people? 200 thousand millionaires whose families live abroad, united by the idea of ​​​​preserving their dough and warm homes? Or people united by the thought of the need to repay loans and thinking about how to give upbringing and education to their children in such excellent conditions? Or the people sitting in front of the zombies in the evenings, because there is no strength or opportunity for anything else, united by the expectation of the next political show with a possible massacre? Or the people who urgently rushed across the cordon, united by the idea of ​​​​unwillingness to become cannon fodder, and asking questions, where did the millionth army go? Or the people who call themselves the creative intelligentsia, flooding all the rest with chewing gum, black and porn for more than a decade? Or those several million guest workers united by the idea of ​​showing the natives how to live properly? So what about a unifying idea?
  14. 0
    27 February 2023 19: 41
    Dear...
    If Putin started talking about some sort of collapse, fabulous Urals, etc....
    THEN follows only one conclusion - The moment has come!

    State building reform is coming
    on new principles and a new territorial structure of Russia.
    Remember Zhirinovsky at worst.

    And the moment is the most opportune to reformat everything ...
  15. +5
    27 February 2023 19: 55
    I listened to the GDP until the first applause. Terribly reminded of Brezhnev's speeches. Everyone is bad, we are good, and it was not me and my team that robbed Russia, but Western bastards. Then I switched the radio to an entertainment channel.

    So that we do not get up now from our knees
    We are being experimented on
    Now we'll be taken at random
    Now each of us is to blame
    We breathed the wind of change
    Now polyethylene interferes
    Time is irretrievably lost
    And we won't forgive you
    Just for what you are
    They immediately gave you six
    As long as we are dumb, we belong to them.
    We're all in prison, the difference is in the mode
    The scoop slammed, who would have believed
    For any slam and his chimera
    Hang in there buddy, it will get better soon.
    Earlier than the deadline that you announced.


    Caste group.
  16. +8
    28 February 2023 00: 22
    By the way, I suddenly remembered that it was the chief and predecessor of the Guarantor who divided and destroyed the Union.
    And so quickly that neither the West nor the people had time to gasp.
    Recently, Yeltsin's DR was - and the GDP, and the Kremlin, and Chubais (from abroad) sent flowers.

    And the Garant himself was already engaged in straightening the borders of Russia in THEIR direction .... and recently the oil-bearing region of Dagestan was handed over to Chechnya, despite protests ...
    The West, for example, did not recognize Ichkeria, although the very moment was Russia's weakness ....

    So "vague doubts are tormenting" .... who can divide Russia into "Muscovites" and "Urals" "...
  17. +1
    28 February 2023 16: 29
    To prevent this, you need to be ready to use ALL WEAPONS!
  18. +5
    1 March 2023 04: 31
    Judging by the speeches, the GDP has long been living in its own world and a vision of how it should be, which does not coincide with reality at all. This politician has been convincing us for more than 20 years that we live pretty well, one might even say excellent. Stadiums have been built, shopping centers have been built, cars are being sold, planes are flying, resorts, again, whatever you want. What else do you need? No money left? Get used to it, you built communism. And in capitalism, only the capitalists have money. The rest - are issued only for food. To keep on your feet.
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  20. 0
    3 March 2023 22: 33
    why did he talk about the breakup himself

    created a situation (with a crime under international law), launched an irreversible process like Poroshenko and Timmur Goy Dar, transfer and ascended to the earth upholstered bathroom "washed his hands"
  21. -1
    7 March 2023 11: 33
    Oh, it’s a pity that we have a lot of illiterate people. The question of which of you studied the works of Tatiana Vasilievna Gracheva, Colonel, teacher of the Military Academy of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces ---- google in Yandex you will find the answers. the fact that the GDP hinted at this a long time ago, was long predicted by the reverends - the saints of the Russian Orthodox Church - for example, Seraphim of Sarov .... study the works of T. In Gracheva you will find answers from her. what can we expect in the future in a month, two, a year ... I personally experienced the prophecies of strangers in my own skin, spent almost a year in a hospital and instantly wised up, you will find the answers yourself ........ I'm not going to call and teach anyone. think for yourself, compare and use your brains
  22. 0
    April 18 2023 14: 01
    Yes, I hope that Russia will fall apart, otherwise poverty and corruption have already sunk in and its dictatorship has bothered me too, I hope Putin will die before the last rule of the Country